Re: [Om2008.9] ButtonPress event for button 3 (right mouse button)
El día Friday, March 06, 2009 a las 08:54:49AM +0100, Ed Kapitein escribió: On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 07:52 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hi, The question is seriously, so please don't respond with 'use the right finger': How can I generate the X11 event ButtonPress/ButtonRelease for button 3, i.e. the right button of the mouse, with the touchpad of the FR? Thx matthias Hi Matthias, The way i work arround this is by having an xmessage with three buttons. if i press button 1 xmodmap wil map the click to button 1 if i press button 2 xmodmap wil map the click to button 2 for a while if i press button 3 xmodmap wil map the click to button 3 for a while (right click) It is not perfect, but it suits my needs. ( using all mouse functions in vnc for example ) Hi Ed, Yes, I need it exactly for vncviewer; could you please be so kind and mail me your scripts; in Om2008.9 there is not even xmessage, but I think I can 'borrow' one from Debian; Thx and kind regards matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] ButtonPress event for button 3 (right mouse button)
Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org writes: The way i work arround this is by having an xmessage with three buttons. xmodmap did not work for me with Xglamo, are you using Xorg? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] ButtonPress event for button 3 (right mouse button)
On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 09:04 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Friday, March 06, 2009 a las 08:54:49AM +0100, Ed Kapitein escribió: On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 07:52 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hi, The question is seriously, so please don't respond with 'use the right finger': How can I generate the X11 event ButtonPress/ButtonRelease for button 3, i.e. the right button of the mouse, with the touchpad of the FR? Thx matthias Hi Matthias, The way i work arround this is by having an xmessage with three buttons. if i press button 1 xmodmap wil map the click to button 1 if i press button 2 xmodmap wil map the click to button 2 for a while if i press button 3 xmodmap wil map the click to button 3 for a while (right click) It is not perfect, but it suits my needs. ( using all mouse functions in vnc for example ) Hi Ed, Yes, I need it exactly for vncviewer; could you please be so kind and mail me your scripts; in Om2008.9 there is not even xmessage, but I think I can 'borrow' one from Debian; Thx and kind regards matthias Sure, it is at http://www.kapitein.org/openmoko/mod_mouse But be aware, i run this script on the host where i connect to, not on the freerunner itself. i use kde, so i added a symlink to the script in ~/.kde/Autostart. This way every time i log in to my desktop the xmessage is triggered. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] ButtonPress event for button 3 (right mouse button)
El día Friday, March 06, 2009 a las 09:27:03AM +0100, Ed Kapitein escribió: Sure, it is at http://www.kapitein.org/openmoko/mod_mouse But be aware, i run this script on the host where i connect to, not on the freerunner itself. i use kde, so i added a symlink to the script in ~/.kde/Autostart. This way every time i log in to my desktop the xmessage is triggered. Hope this helps. Thanks for that; but I think it does not help me out; this trick would change the mouse buttons *inside* the desktop presented by the vncviewer and not in the X11 server running on the FR. It seems that the vncviewer (vnc_3.3.7-r0, see the other thread in the mailing list with the Subject: [Om2008.9] vncviewer vnc_3.3.7-r0 but ...) needs a right button click into the scrollbars of the vncviewer application itself to get moved backward (don't know if this is true, but at least someone said so); Thanks anyway matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] ButtonPress event for button 3 (right mouse button)
Matthias Apitz ha scritto: Hi, The question is seriously, so please don't respond with 'use the right finger': How can I generate the X11 event ButtonPress/ButtonRelease for button 3, i.e. the right button of the mouse, with the touchpad of the FR? Thx Sorry for that, I was in funny humor yesterday :) Normal use in touch screen devices is to catch the long touch as right mouse, Qtopia does this, in fact if you open notes in Om2008.x distros create a note and then on that one you click and hold your finger you'll see a popup menu. I think the same could be implemented by frameworks or by daemons but unfortunately I don't know how. This could solve almost the right-click I think mid click could be solved with a button (AUX?) and left click or right click as suggested by Risto Bye :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework
Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I have suggested a refinement on the second approach: short the small | capacitors. Add big caps outside the shielded unit - there are places | with room. But don't put wires from the caps into the shielded | unit. Connect them to the headset plug instead, and break the plug's | normal connection to the circuit board. This approach won't pick up any | more buzz than the headset based solution, or the current bassless | setup. And you can use any headset you want. | | The big question is - is it safe to short those small capacitors? Or | will that have other side effects, such as draining the battery or | disturbing sound on the built-in speaker? There are a couple of 1K resistors to 0V that will then connect directly ~ to the amp outputs all the time before the new DC blocking caps you will add back in. But thanks to some recent patches by Mark Brown on andy-tracking, we should keep the amp turned off more often. Can these be safely removed? Are they there just to make sure the capacitors slowly drain, so you don't get a pop when plugging something in? Or do they have other purposes as well? | Another question - is a single big capacitor enough, if it is put into | the ground line instead of having one cap for each of the stereo | channels? Or will that wreck stereo sound? One could then use a even | bigger cap. You'd need to do both channels; the one with the unchanged cap will sound the same as always otherwise. You misunderstand. I did not propose to do only one channel. I planned on shorting both the small caps. Then, instead of one big cap on each of the stereo lines: LEave the stereo lines connected as-is. Break the ground line (which is common to both channels) and insert a single big cap there instead. Slightly less work, and perhaps a bigger capacitor will fit. (It'd probably have to be bigger too, as the two channels often enough have the same signal.) | There is lots of easily accessible room next to the battery, above the | SIM card. | | I'd love to see a good answer to those questions. Currently, it's | unusable as an MP3 player and that's an important use for me (if | I could use it as an MP3 player, I'd carry it with me that much more | often, which would in turn increase my use of it). Lifting the can and meddling with the caps is nontrivial. Somebody did give this plan a go on the list about 6 months ago and reported some success though. But I don't recommend considering it unless you are in an experimental frame of mind and can deal with the fiddling and risk involved. I understand that it won't be trivial. Maybe not for me. But if openmoko creates a standard procedure for this improvement too, then I can have an electronic repair shop do everything in one go - both buzz and bass fixes. That will cost me less than having the fixes done separately, even if both fixes together may cost a bit more than buzz only. I hope to ship the phone only once, the repair guy will need to open it only once... A mass fix will be especially cheap - a good technician doing identical fixes on a big stack of phones won't need much time on each. It seems like pulster might set up something like that - but they surely need a procedure, before they can train someone for the job! I hope some thought goes into this for the gta03. Sound output from a phone obviously has low power, but it should be as hi-fi as the sound chip allows. Ideally, a balanced output that don't use (or need) caps. One can play uncompressed wav files, and use a high-quality headset or connect to a regular stereo system. Openmoko could have sound enthusiast customers, as well as linux enthusiasts. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework
Esben Stien wrote: Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca writes: (if I could use it as an MP3 player, I'd carry it with me that much more often Until a fix, you can plug in a USB headset;). Won't that rule out simultanous charging with the usb car charger? Anyway, some setup will be necessary, right? A usb headset headset will be a completely new sound device. Can the phone detect it when it gets plugged in, and then do all the configuration? So the sound player will just work Or will we have to go into the settings and change between host and device mode each time the phone is switched between usb headset and pc connection? :-/ Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! 0.5.1 out
Carlo Minucci wrote: * delete freespace check and progress bar * now work with tangogps default config file * work in SHR too (i hope :) ) * change icon with a picture taken during my holiday in Vespa :) It works on SHR testing indeed. Nice icon! :-) Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New SHR-Testing release
Hi all, for those of you who didn't see the blog on Openmoko-Planet or read the SHR Mailinglist... We did publish new testing images. Get them at http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ but read the announcement first: http://blog.shr-project.org/2009/03/time-for-testing.html We hope you like it and want you to tell us if you managed to call your grandma with it... or even better if your grandma managed to do a phone call with it :-) Problems, bugs and critics are welcome too. Report bugs at: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac or pass by in IRC on freenode at #openmoko-cdevel. Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework
Have you tried tweaking the alsa profiles and set Bass Filter to either 100Hz @ 8kHz (== 600Hz @ 48kHz) or 200Hz @ 8kHz (== 1200Hz @ 48kHz) and Bass Boost to 15? I find the quality just fine for eg. any chance somebody translates that audiophile gibberish into alsa state file gibberish? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | There are a couple of 1K resistors to 0V that will then connect directly | ~ to the amp outputs all the time before the new DC blocking caps you | will add back in. But thanks to some recent patches by Mark Brown on | andy-tracking, we should keep the amp turned off more often. | | Can these be safely removed? Are they there just to make sure the | capacitors slowly drain, so you don't get a pop when plugging something in? | | Or do they have other purposes as well? The headphone action is overloaded with a digital connection to the GSM chipset. It's only used in factory though. I guess the 1Ks were added as some protection against large voltages developing on what would be floating nets on headset insertion, etc. | | Another question - is a single big capacitor enough, if it is put into | | the ground line instead of having one cap for each of the stereo | | channels? Or will that wreck stereo sound? One could then use a even | | bigger cap. | | You'd need to do both channels; the one with the unchanged cap will | sound the same as always otherwise. | | You misunderstand. I did not propose to do only one channel. | I planned on shorting both the small caps. Then, instead of one big cap | on each of the stereo lines: LEave the stereo lines connected as-is. | Break the ground line (which is common to both channels) and insert a | single big cap there instead. Slightly less work, and perhaps a bigger | capacitor will fit. (It'd probably have to be bigger too, as the two | channels often enough have the same signal.) Yes I didn't get your point. But I don't think it's the same action as one cap before each transducer and a direct common low-impedence ground reference. The two signals will mix where they join at the single capacitor and the impedence depends on the frequency. | | There is lots of easily accessible room next to the battery, above the | | SIM card. | | | | I'd love to see a good answer to those questions. Currently, it's | | unusable as an MP3 player and that's an important use for me (if | | I could use it as an MP3 player, I'd carry it with me that much more | | often, which would in turn increase my use of it). | | Lifting the can and meddling with the caps is nontrivial. Somebody did | give this plan a go on the list about 6 months ago and reported some Well, point taken. | I hope some thought goes into this for the gta03. Sound output from a | phone obviously has low power, but it should be as hi-fi as the sound | chip allows. Ideally, a balanced output that don't use (or need) caps. | One can play uncompressed wav files, and use a high-quality headset or | connect to a regular stereo system. Openmoko could have sound | enthusiast customers, as well as linux enthusiasts. We have 47uF series caps on this circuit right now on 3D7K (new name for old GTA03). - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmw74sACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrJ/QCfV0j30BJKibqrQBgSVRwge97b fB0Amwcbt4IK1rcQ0QyGmJzrhGX+nu0t =OfX+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter]
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:58:11 +0100 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com (TB) wrote: it seems that there is no log generated! I'm using the latest package on the latest SHR unstable image! Thanks Tony You have to press three buttons for offline function: auto check auto submit offline -- Petr Vaněk yes indeed. Thank you. Sorry I didn't see that before sending that e-mail :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Hi all, for those of you who didn't see the blog on Openmoko-Planet or read the SHR Mailinglist... We did publish new testing images. Time for re-install by image or is opkg upgrade safe? -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Musings on Android, OpenMoko and Linux on phones
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Mikko, thanks for this posting. I almost agree with everything. Although in the age of Android it's kind of tough to motivate people working on a truly free GNU/Linux stack, I'm sure we (as in freesmartphone.org and Openmoko Inc.) are doing the right thing. My impression is that android can't do precisely what I got the freerunner for - let me run my own stuff. I pick and choose apps I want. And I did my own screen keyboard because the english layout wasn't good enough for my use. Did that in a couple of hours, no need to get a SDK or anything. When I see a problem in an app that I can easily fix, I do so, and share the fix. Others do so too, so there is improvement all the time. This sort of thing it what keeps open source and linux going in general. I am sure it will work for openmoko too. Who cares if android gets bigger? There will always open distros too. And openmoko phones can run either system, so the maker don't have to take sides. You might know I'm still actively working on OpenEZX support for FSO and just recently I aquired an HTC Touch Pro to help these guys getting a free GNU/Linux stack as well. Sadly, 90% of these guys (same as MOTO hackers btw.) are just interested in what Android offers, so it's kind of hard for me to convince them to work on e.g. standard kernel interfaces. I won't give up though :) Well, if android cannot be open due to DRM, then they can be outcompeted on features. They will likely have more polished mainstream stuff, we will have lots of special stuff they will never get. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Troubles with opkg.org repo
Hi all, I have for now disabled the opkg.org repo on my FreeRunner. It kept disturbing opkg update and opkg upgrade. It also offers packages like cellhunter which are not hosted on opkg.org, are identical in files, but result in segmentation fault of opkg. So back to normal and explicit opkg inst http:// until (hopefull soon) opkg.org repo is not causing so much crashes of opkg. Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another attempt at speeding up yaouh, with persistent connections
Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 05 March 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Fixing this in advance is a better approach - but I'd rather spend time on a much better fix using libcurl. That would speed yaouh up further also. But this have to wait until someone ports pycurl to the freerunner. No porting needed - pycurl is in OE. bitbake python-pycurl I haven't yet set up any development tools, which is why I worked on a python program. Is there an ipk/opk file, or at least something that can be installed with tar? Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter]
If I submit data, when is it available on the online database and OSM/Google maps? Tony Berth wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz mailto:van...@penguin.cz wrote: On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:58:11 +0100 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com mailto:tonybe...@googlemail.com (TB) wrote: it seems that there is no log generated! I'm using the latest package on the latest SHR unstable image! Thanks Tony You have to press three buttons for offline function: auto check auto submit offline -- Petr Vaněk yes indeed. Thank you. Sorry I didn't see that before sending that e-mail :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Am Freitag 06 März 2009 10:47:20 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Hi all, for those of you who didn't see the blog on Openmoko-Planet or read the SHR Mailinglist... We did publish new testing images. Time for re-install by image or is opkg upgrade safe? See the announcement :-) upgrading from old shr-testing does not work... Sombody even tried it me thinks. Changing the repo config and upgrading from shr- unstable is supposed to work though. Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework
Anyway, some setup will be necessary, right? A usb headset headset will be a completely new sound device. Can the phone detect it when it gets plugged in, and then do all the configuration? So the sound player will just work Or will we have to go into the settings and change between host and device mode each time the phone is switched between usb headset and pc connection? :-/ nothing an appropriate udev rule couldn't handle, i think. on a more generic level it could be handled by fso-frameworkd as well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Upgrade your phone?
Hi, this teasing blog post[0] inspired the following idea. If have no idea what this thing on the picture will really be but it could be a mainboard that fits into the case of a freerunner. The Samsung CPU in the Freerunner is for ARM what a 386 is for x86 architecture. Even the old N770 had a better CPU. We all know that at the time the Freerunner was designed no better chip was available under the conditions OM would want them: Freedom and all. :) However nowadays things have changed a bit and there are also some 'bugs' in the current Freerunner design (Glamo *cough*) which limit the Freerunner's performance. Now would'nt it be cool if you could buy a new mainboard containing an up-to-date armv6/armv7-based CPU, that fits into the Freerunner case and can be connected to the peripherals that are already there (display, GSM antenna, buttons, ...). With the case and hardware specs being available for anyone it not even neccessary that OM provides such an 'upgrade board'. It could be done by anyone with the neccessary infrastructure and knowledge. Heck even we - the community - could probably do something. Have you seen how small the Overo's[1] are? The design of a mobile phone based on existing HW by a community was even attempted earlier already[2]. Regards Robert [0] - http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?p=663 [1] - http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=211 [2] - http://www.opencellphone.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] ButtonPress event for button 3 (right mouse button)
think I can 'borrow' one from Debian; well, why don't you borrow xorg-xserver-input-tslib as well? or at least libgtkstylus.so? 2008.9 uses xorg, right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR - Latest unstable] TangoGPS
Tony Berth wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no mailto:helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Tony Berth wrote: after installing the latest SHR-unstable immage and tried to edit the tangoGPS config parameters, when saving the application crashes! This wasn't the case with the previous image and the 0.9.3 tangoGPS version! Any tip how to correct that? Install tangogps 0.9.3, edit settings, upgrade to 0.9.6 :-( Actually, the folder for gps tracks can be edited The map folder cannot, but that can be worked around using a symlink instead. You might want to let the tangogps developer know too, it might get fixed in the next version then. Helge Hafting so the problem is within tangoGPS in that specific version? Nothing to do with SHR? Can't I upgrade from 0.9.5? Where can I find 0.9.3? I am not sure. Google for somewhere to find it. Or pull it out of some older roots. shr.bearstech.com has filesystems going back to jan-22. I never tried changing settings on 0.9.5, so maybe it works there. Try! I just know that it worked on even older versions, and then people started complaining with v. 0.9.5 or so. I jsut installed 0.9.6 into a SHR testing image, and couldn't change settings. So I did it the easy way - I gave up and made a symlink from /home/root/Maps to where I have the maps on the sdcard. Silly solution but works fine. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Detecting ethernet gadget connections
Daniel Benoy wrote: I'm working on a script that will detect which network interfaces are connected and mess with the routing accordingly, but I'm having trouble detecting whether my USB ethernet gadget connection is up or down. ethtool when it's up: lisa:~# ethtool usb0 Settings for usb0: Link detected: yes ethtool when it's down: lisa:~# ethtool usb0 Settings for usb0: Link detected: yes Unlike on the host side, the usb0 interface doesn't appear and disappear, allowing udev scripts to bring up/down the interface. Anyone know if there's a way to detect that a network connection has actually been established? Is this necessary? Just set a higher metric on usb0, then routes thorough eth0 will be preferred when available. The default route through usb0 will only be used as a last resort when there is no other way. Such a setup works very well on my laptop. It doesn't on the freerunner yet, because the ip utility in busybox currently can't set metrics. But port that (or use debian with its binary ip utility) and you'll be fine. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acceleroids - shoot-the-asteroids game
It works very well and is lots of fun. Maybe a little too sensitive? But many thanks for that one! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 10:47:20 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Hi all, for those of you who didn't see the blog on Openmoko-Planet or read the SHR Mailinglist... We did publish new testing images. Time for re-install by image or is opkg upgrade safe? See the announcement :-) upgrading from old shr-testing does not work... Sombody even tried it me thinks. Changing the repo config and upgrading from shr- unstable is supposed to work though. Oh, sorry. I was a bit unclear. I was on unstable before and I intend to stay on the bleeding edge. (Or at least see where that brings me...) Question is, what will happen if I do nothing. Is the new unstable a clean continuation of the old unstable or does it break updates? Or should I just go testing anyway because unstable is really not intended for real use? -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
HouYu Li wrote(a): Now, the image, binary and details is here: http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ Great, i will gladly test it. Now that we have last release from Nokia would it be possible to setup public repository with patches from comunity? I would like to contribute, but i am not aware of any place where my patches could end up. Could we have e.g. git repository with latest enhancements or sourceforge project or perhaps openmoko is willing to host the project? What are your opinions? Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] which webbrowser in testing
Hi all, What is the webbrowser to use in testing? Dillo is a bit old and the new dillo will not install due to missing packages. How to solve this or what alternatives exist? Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] which webbrowser in testing
Pander wrote: Hi all, What is the webbrowser to use in testing? Dillo is a bit old and the new dillo will not install due to missing packages. How to solve this or what alternatives exist? opkg install dillo work fine in SHR testing, if you have the opkg.org repository configured. Or just get the missing packages from opkg.org, then retry the dillo install. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Am Freitag 06 März 2009 11:13:41 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 10:47:20 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Hi all, for those of you who didn't see the blog on Openmoko-Planet or read the SHR Mailinglist... We did publish new testing images. Time for re-install by image or is opkg upgrade safe? See the announcement :-) upgrading from old shr-testing does not work... Sombody even tried it me thinks. Changing the repo config and upgrading from shr- unstable is supposed to work though. Oh, sorry. I was a bit unclear. I was on unstable before and I intend to stay on the bleeding edge. (Or at least see where that brings me...) Question is, what will happen if I do nothing. Is the new unstable a clean continuation of the old unstable or does it break updates? It still is a clean continuation... that might change though some day. Or should I just go testing anyway because unstable is really not intended for real use? Well... if you need it as a phone you should switch to testing. We intend to do some big changes that most definitely will lead to a not working phone in the beginning. If you just want something to play with and do not depend on it as your daily phone... thats different then :-) Or you could do what most of us SHR devs do... Have them both. One in flash and one on SD. Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 11:13:41 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Or should I just go testing anyway because unstable is really not intended for real use? Well... if you need it as a phone you should switch to testing. We intend to do some big changes that most definitely will lead to a not working phone in the beginning. If you just want something to play with and do not depend on it as your daily phone... thats different then :-) Or you could do what most of us SHR devs do... Have them both. One in flash and one on SD. Oh, good idea. -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] which webbrowser in testing
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Re: [Om2008.9] ButtonPress event for button 3 (right mouse button)
2008.9 uses xorg, right? No: yes, it does. xorg as opposed to framebuffer (like, qtopia). i am not sure, though, how good tslib works with (your current) xglamo -- and libgtkstylus.so does gtk-apps only, iirc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] which webbrowser in testing
Richy wrote (ao): alternatives: midori or minino Minimo is replaced by Fennec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimo This project has been replaced by Mozilla Fennec -- Humilis IT Services and Solutions http://www.humilis.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] which webbrowser in testing
Try links-x11. It's fast, it has working ssl. Netsurf is also interesing. Leonti On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Sander openm...@humilis.net wrote: Richy wrote (ao): alternatives: midori or minino Minimo is replaced by Fennec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimo This project has been replaced by Mozilla Fennec -- Humilis IT Services and Solutions http://www.humilis.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 9:13:48 pm Radek Polak wrote: Now that we have last release from Nokia would it be possible to setup public repository with patches from comunity? I'm in the process of setting up a repository on github for just that reason! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Google web pages optimizer
Hi! http://www.google.com/gwt/n - here you can optimize webb pages for pda use - very useful for expensive gprs connection. Did not know about this before today, so just had to share in case someone else finds it useful. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
Chris Samuel wrote: ublic repository with patches from comunity? I'm in the process of setting up a repository on github for just that reason! Great, let us know when you are done! Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
13th community updates released
Dear list: Here comes the 13th community updates. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/March_6%2C_2009 As usual I would like to thanks for everyone who contribute on this. During these two weeks , there are many exciting news here. Openmoko has announced Om 2009 release plan, gen...@openmoko mailto:gen...@openmoko team has reached their first milestone for running Gentoo on FreeRunner...etc. Beside the distribution news, there are many events like FreerunnerMeeting (in Politecnico di Milano University ) , OSI Tech Days 2009and Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2009...etc ,will hold during sprint time. Finally, I would like to remind you all that there's only two days left for the registration of FreeRunner programming competition . Stay tune. There is more interesting information on this community updates. Best Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:24:54 pm Radek Polak wrote: Great, let us know when you are done! I'm doing a git push now, and it's going to take a long time to finish over this ADSL link (it did 3% in about 10 minutes). When it completes it's going to be here: http://github.com/chrissamuel/qtextended/tree/master Note that what I'm pushing is *not* 4.4.3, it's the original 4.4.2 with an extra commit which is the echo fix I previously posted. It's now gone 11pm here and as I'm involved in a bushfire benefit festival [1] tomorrow out at Hurstbridge for people in the Kinglake area of Victoria I won't get a chance to do anything more until Sunday as it doesn't finish until midnight Saturday! Then I'll hopefully get a chance to add collaborators and maybe figure out how to push 4.4.3 into it too unless someone else wants to do that ? (I'm pretty new to git). cheers, Chris [1] - http://www.rockandrebuild.org/ -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework
2009/3/6 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
Have you tried tweaking the alsa profiles and set Bass Filter to
either 100Hz @ 8kHz (== 600Hz @ 48kHz) or 200Hz @ 8kHz (== 1200Hz @
48kHz) and Bass Boost to 15? I find the quality just fine for eg.
any chance somebody translates that audiophile gibberish into alsa state
file gibberish?
Sure:
control.15 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 'Linear Control'
comment.item.1 'Adaptive Boost'
iface MIXER
name 'Bass Boost'
value 'Linear Control'
}
control.16 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 '130Hz @ 48kHz'
comment.item.1 '200Hz @ 48kHz'
comment.item.2 '100Hz @ 16kHz'
comment.item.3 '400Hz @ 48kHz'
comment.item.4 '100Hz @ 8kHz'
comment.item.5 '200Hz @ 8kHz'
iface MIXER
name 'Bass Filter'
value '200Hz @ 8kHz'
}
control.17 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 15'
iface MIXER
name 'Bass Volume'
value 15
}
I find the sound breaks sometimes with Adaptive, so I have kept it at Linear.
-Timo
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Re: Detecting ethernet gadget connections
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:04:40 +0100 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Daniel Benoy wrote: I'm working on a script that will detect which network interfaces are connected and mess with the routing accordingly, but I'm having trouble detecting whether my USB ethernet gadget connection is up or down. ethtool when it's up: lisa:~# ethtool usb0 Settings for usb0: Link detected: yes ethtool when it's down: lisa:~# ethtool usb0 Settings for usb0: Link detected: yes Unlike on the host side, the usb0 interface doesn't appear and disappear, allowing udev scripts to bring up/down the interface. Anyone know if there's a way to detect that a network connection has actually been established? Is this necessary? Just set a higher metric on usb0, then routes thorough eth0 will be preferred when available. The default route through usb0 will only be used as a last resort when there is no other way. Such a setup works very well on my laptop. It doesn't on the freerunner yet, because the ip utility in busybox currently can't set metrics. But port that (or use debian with its binary ip utility) and you'll be fine. Helge Hafting You should be able to find iproute2 for freerunner... I know I've got an ipk of 2.2.26 at http://newkirk.us/om - my OM stuff attic, but I think it's in the feeds as well. Apart from that, I dug into this exact situation before, including dealing with usb0, wrote an article about it at my blog. (http://jthinks.com/better-freerunner-networking) You can use the standard 'route' command to set metrics, so iproute2 isn't required. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
OK, actually. I was talking with lpotter in IRC channel #qtopia at FreeNode about the further improvement of QTextended. He will setup a git repository based on the 4.4.3 release source by the end of this week. Just waiting for a while. We are going to move QTextended to kernel 2.6.28. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:24:54 pm Radek Polak wrote: Great, let us know when you are done! I'm doing a git push now, and it's going to take a long time to finish over this ADSL link (it did 3% in about 10 minutes). When it completes it's going to be here: http://github.com/chrissamuel/qtextended/tree/master Note that what I'm pushing is *not* 4.4.3, it's the original 4.4.2 with an extra commit which is the echo fix I previously posted. It's now gone 11pm here and as I'm involved in a bushfire benefit festival [1] tomorrow out at Hurstbridge for people in the Kinglake area of Victoria I won't get a chance to do anything more until Sunday as it doesn't finish until midnight Saturday! Then I'll hopefully get a chance to add collaborators and maybe figure out how to push 4.4.3 into it too unless someone else wants to do that ? (I'm pretty new to git). cheers, Chris [1] - http://www.rockandrebuild.org/ -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:59:58 pm HouYu Li wrote: OK, actually. I was talking with lpotter in IRC channel #qtopia at FreeNode about the further improvement of QTextended. He will setup a git repository based on the 4.4.3 release source by the end of this week. Just waiting for a while. We are going to move QTextended to kernel 2.6.28. Aha! Sounds good to me. :-) I'll let the git push complete as it won't do any harm for now, we can always kill it later if need be. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google web pages optimizer
Thanks, have added the site to my office blacklists - was letting me access all sorts of blocked content through the innocuous looking google.com ;-) 2009/3/6 Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com: Hi! http://www.google.com/gwt/n - here you can optimize webb pages for pda use - very useful for expensive gprs connection. Did not know about this before today, so just had to share in case someone else finds it useful. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] GPS from python
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 22:27 +0100, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: It seems not work on SHR-testing :( That's normal...you are using the gpsd bindings on your desktop computer. They permit you to talk to a gpsd compatible device I tested it with fso-gpsd(python on my desktop with the gpsd bindings(so I needed to install gpsd on my desktop to get the bindings) and fso-gpsd on the openmoko) So you have 2 solutions: 1)replace fso-gpsd by gpsd 2)use dbus to talk to the GPS Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Detecting ethernet gadget connections
This may be intentional, because the usb0 interface continues to exist whether it's connected or not. udev generally concerns itself with devices which hotplug in and out of existence. In the case of g_ether, you can set the IP on it and it'll just keep it forever. Also if you want to make an issue of this, it looks to me like you may want to contact the kernel team instead. The ethernet gadget module is present even in vanella linux kernels. Correct me if I'm wrong. On Thursday 05 March 2009 12:14:19 you wrote: I opened a ticket on that a while ago... https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2178 No progress in 3 months... Citando Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name: I'm working on a script that will detect which network interfaces are connected and mess with the routing accordingly, but I'm having trouble detecting whether my USB ethernet gadget connection is up or down. ethtool when it's up: lisa:~# ethtool usb0 Settings for usb0: Link detected: yes ethtool when it's down: lisa:~# ethtool usb0 Settings for usb0: Link detected: yes Unlike on the host side, the usb0 interface doesn't appear and disappear, allowing udev scripts to bring up/down the interface. Anyone know if there's a way to detect that a network connection has actually been established? -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner
I am having OM 2008.12 but it has only a few features when i checked the /usr/share/dbus-1/ folder. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: From: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Subject: Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 1:27 AM sandilya b san_dimi...@yahoo.com writes: I just got an openmoko freerunner phone and want to install cli-framework on it to use the various features of the d-bus system. Can someone help me with it? Which distro are you running? I think the phone is shipped with some om2007.X that does not offer org.freesmartphone api. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR upgrade leaves an empty screen
Hey all, I just ran an upgrade yesterday after seeing some issues resolved with the frameworkd upgrade package and now my screen is empty. If I switch to the slider icons, my applications are back, but I find that interface too touchy and annoying to use, so I would like my icons back. Does anyone know what happened and what I can do to get it back? Thanks, Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
Dylan Reilly wrote: Curse all these python 2.5 versus 2.6 issues! The mutagen package was actually built for 2.5 and not 2.6 (my fault). I have fixed this and uploaded a new version to opkg.org. Note that I changed the version number. I have also added a list of the dependencies and where one can acquire them to the main pythm page of opkg.org. Hopefully I remembered all of them. Unfortunately, the packages are all over the place and not consistent python 2.5 versus 2.6. Until a stable/accepted distribution arises, one will need to be mindful of such things and ready to copy files into the correct python lib directory. I have reflashed SHR testing. Now I can't install mutagen_svn-4350-2_armv4t.ipk opkg just ends in Terminated no matter how I try. :-( Oh well, I'll try copying stuff from python 2.5 :-/ If the distributions are very different, how about separate versions for python 2.5 and 2.6? Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR - Latest unstable] TangoGPS
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.nowrote: Tony Berth wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no mailto:helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Tony Berth wrote: after installing the latest SHR-unstable immage and tried to edit the tangoGPS config parameters, when saving the application crashes! This wasn't the case with the previous image and the 0.9.3 tangoGPS version! Any tip how to correct that? Install tangogps 0.9.3, edit settings, upgrade to 0.9.6 :-( Actually, the folder for gps tracks can be edited The map folder cannot, but that can be worked around using a symlink instead. You might want to let the tangogps developer know too, it might get fixed in the next version then. Helge Hafting so the problem is within tangoGPS in that specific version? Nothing to do with SHR? Can't I upgrade from 0.9.5? Where can I find 0.9.3? I am not sure. Google for somewhere to find it. Or pull it out of some older roots. shr.bearstech.com has filesystems going back to jan-22. I never tried changing settings on 0.9.5, so maybe it works there. Try! I just know that it worked on even older versions, and then people started complaining with v. 0.9.5 or so. I jsut installed 0.9.6 into a SHR testing image, and couldn't change settings. So I did it the easy way - I gave up and made a symlink from /home/root/Maps to where I have the maps on the sdcard. Silly solution but works fine. Helge Hafting ___ which command did you use for that symbolic link? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - 3rd version - Can play wav files
kimaidou: Thanks for this, it's nice! Could you please check the ipk package, there are some information missing that makes the installation fail in opkg.org repository, see http://www.opkg.org/packages/Packages - has voicenote listed but details are missing r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install voicenote An error ocurred, return value: 2. r...@om-gta02:~# For an example control file, see http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/packaging/example/CONTROL/control Thanks! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Detecting ethernet gadget connections
Is this necessary? Just set a higher metric on usb0, then routes thorough eth0 will be preferred when available. The default route through usb0 will only be used as a last resort when there is no other way. Yes. Packets will route out that interface whether it's connected or not because it never disappears even when the cable is completely unplugged, and I want (obviously) the usb0 interface to be a higher priority than my gprs interface, so every packet would go out usb0 if I set it to a preferable metric. Unless I brought the interface up and down manually when the cable is disconnected, which brings us back to the original problem. Also, I'm setting up routing based on firewall rules, so it complicates things. When I'm writing my firewall script it needs to know whether usb is up or not to decide where web and ssh and instant messaging should be routed. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I eventually did come up with a solution to this. I check the charger state. If it detects a host it should be charging at 500mA. This doesn't prove that the network interface is successfully configured, but it's good enough for my purposes. If anyone's interested in seeing the convoluted script I had to make, I've attached it to this e-mail. Here's basically what it does for me: 1) Automatically brings up and down network interfaces. (Only for usb0 now. I took out eth0 wifi scanning because I found a way to do it outside of the script. And ppp0 I'm still handling manually.. may change that in the future) 2) Creates a routing table for each device with a default route out that device automatically by detecting changes to the main table made by ifup and other connection software. 3) Creates iptables rules automatically based on which interfaces are up and which are down, in accordance with my preferences. (xmpp and ssh always go out GPRS, because I want the connections to be unbroken when I roam away from my usb or wifi connection, and they're low bandwidth) The effect is that web browsing and such will switch over seamlessly when I come within range of my home network, while my instant messager never has its connection broken so long as it's in cell phone range. If you want to try the script as well you'll need some firewall rules, such as: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o usb0 -j MASQUERADE iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -j CUSTOMROUTE Someone let me know if there's a better way to achieve this. I thought about using the ROUTE iptables target, but it seemed pretty complicated to get installed. One problem I've encountered is that when software determines its source address automatically (There's rarely an option to set it by hand, and I wouldn't want to be doing that anyway) then it will examine the routing table for its source address *without sending a packet* so therefore firewall never marks the packet, and the routing table thinks its supposed to use the main rule chain. My solution for this was the MASQUERADE lines above. -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name phoneroute.pl Description: Perl program ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner
for use cli-framework you need the framework :), Actual Distros who have it , FSO, SHR, Debian and his derivates, ¿Gentoo? 2009/3/6 sandilya b san_dimi...@yahoo.com: I am having OM 2008.12 but it has only a few features when i checked the /usr/share/dbus-1/ folder. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: From: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Subject: Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 1:27 AM sandilya b san_dimi...@yahoo.com writes: I just got an openmoko freerunner phone and want to install cli-framework on it to use the various features of the d-bus system. Can someone help me with it? Which distro are you running? I think the phone is shipped with some om2007.X that does not offer org.freesmartphone api. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
On Friday 06 March 2009 16:01:18 Helge Hafting wrote: Dylan Reilly wrote: I have reflashed SHR testing. Now I can't install mutagen_svn-4350-2_armv4t.ipk opkg just ends in Terminated no matter how I try. :-( I have the same problem. It seems opkg.org is truncating files, and almost every package you try to install downloaded from opkg.org fails with Terminated. You can try, for example, to download: http://www.opkg.org/packages/pong_0.1_armv4t.ipk It only download 4096 bytes Try to download the same package from: http://scalde.free.fr/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=4Itemid=71 11636 bytes! The last one installs OK, but the one from opkg.org fails with Terminate ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
Can you run: ar x [package name] correctly? If not then the package is corrupt. The package I uploaded to opgk.org is fine. If it got corrupted somewhere in the stream I cannot be of too much help. You can do what I did to get mutagen in the first place: install it to your desktop and then copy the python files over to the openmoko. I am not going to build packages for multiple versions of python. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Dylan Reilly wrote: Curse all these python 2.5 versus 2.6 issues! The mutagen package was actually built for 2.5 and not 2.6 (my fault). I have fixed this and uploaded a new version to opkg.org. Note that I changed the version number. I have also added a list of the dependencies and where one can acquire them to the main pythm page of opkg.org. Hopefully I remembered all of them. Unfortunately, the packages are all over the place and not consistent python 2.5 versus 2.6. Until a stable/accepted distribution arises, one will need to be mindful of such things and ready to copy files into the correct python lib directory. I have reflashed SHR testing. Now I can't install mutagen_svn-4350-2_armv4t.ipk opkg just ends in Terminated no matter how I try. :-( Oh well, I'll try copying stuff from python 2.5 :-/ If the distributions are very different, how about separate versions for python 2.5 and 2.6? Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another attempt at speeding up yaouh, with persistent connections
On Friday 06 March 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 05 March 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Fixing this in advance is a better approach - but I'd rather spend time on a much better fix using libcurl. That would speed yaouh up further also. But this have to wait until someone ports pycurl to the freerunner. No porting needed - pycurl is in OE. bitbake python-pycurl I haven't yet set up any development tools, which is why I worked on a python program. Is there an ipk/opk file, or at least something that can be installed with tar? http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/repos/mazikeen/fso-milestone5/ipk/armv4t/ I've a little housekeeping (and a lot of upload time) to do before it's a full repository, but individual python packages are there at the moment. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 11:13:41 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 10:47:20 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Hi all, for those of you who didn't see the blog on Openmoko-Planet or read the SHR Mailinglist... We did publish new testing images. Time for re-install by image or is opkg upgrade safe? See the announcement :-) upgrading from old shr-testing does not work... Sombody even tried it me thinks. Changing the repo config and upgrading from shr- unstable is supposed to work though. Oh, sorry. I was a bit unclear. I was on unstable before and I intend to stay on the bleeding edge. (Or at least see where that brings me...) Question is, what will happen if I do nothing. Is the new unstable a clean continuation of the old unstable or does it break updates? It still is a clean continuation... that might change though some day. Something is odd with this repo. :) See below. Looks like the repository is broken. I had to disable the /etc/opkg/armv4-feed.conf feed. (src/gz shr-armv4 http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv) Since it always produced 404. But that should not have anything to do with that. (shortened output) r...@om-gta01 ~ $ opkg upgrade Upgrading python-ecore on root from 0.3.1+svnr38274-ml0 to 0.3.1+svnr39379-ml0... Downloading http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/python-ecore_0.3.1+svnr39379-ml0_armv4t.ipk Upgrading libecore-evas on root from 2:0.9.9.050+svnr38274-r1 to 2:0.9.9.050+svnr39379-r1... Downloading http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libecore-evas_0.9.9.050+svnr39379-r1_armv4t.ipk Upgrading libevas-engine-buffer on root from 2:0.9.9.050+svnr38274-r1 to 2:0.9.9.050+svnr39379-r1... Downloading http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libevas-engine-buffer_0.9.9.050+svnr39379-r1_armv4t.ipk Upgrading libehal0 on root from 2:0.5.0.050+svnr38274-r1 to 2:0.5.0.050+svnr39379-r1... .. Collected errors: * Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/python-ecore_0.3.1+svnr39379-ml0_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download python-ecore. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? * Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libecore-evas_0.9.9.050+svnr39379-r1_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download libecore-evas. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? * Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libevas-engine-buffer_0.9.9.050+svnr39379-r1_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download libevas-engine-buffer. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? * Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libehal0_0.5.0.050+svnr39379-r1_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download libehal0. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? .. -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Cellhunter 0.4.2 - no neighbour cells?
Hi! Yesterday I installed Cellhunter 0.4.2. It works great except for not displaying neighbour cells - they are all displayed as zeroes. The main cell is displayed allright. I'm using Shr-testing and latest framework. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Am Freitag 06 März 2009 16:43:47 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 11:13:41 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 10:47:20 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Hi all, for those of you who didn't see the blog on Openmoko-Planet or read the SHR Mailinglist... We did publish new testing images. Time for re-install by image or is opkg upgrade safe? See the announcement :-) upgrading from old shr-testing does not work... Sombody even tried it me thinks. Changing the repo config and upgrading from shr- unstable is supposed to work though. Oh, sorry. I was a bit unclear. I was on unstable before and I intend to stay on the bleeding edge. (Or at least see where that brings me...) Question is, what will happen if I do nothing. Is the new unstable a clean continuation of the old unstable or does it break updates? It still is a clean continuation... that might change though some day. Something is odd with this repo. :) See below. Looks like the repository is broken. I had to disable the /etc/opkg/armv4-feed.conf feed. (src/gz shr-armv4 http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv) Since it always produced 404. But that should not have anything to do with that. (shortened output) r...@om-gta01 ~ $ opkg upgrade Upgrading python-ecore on root from 0.3.1+svnr38274-ml0 to 0.3.1+svnr39379-ml0... Downloading http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/python-ecore_0.3.1+svnr39 379-ml0_armv4t.ipk Upgrading libecore-evas on root from 2:0.9.9.050+svnr38274-r1 to 2:0.9.9.050+svnr39379-r1... Downloading http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libecore-evas_0.9.9.050+s vnr39379-r1_armv4t.ipk Upgrading libevas-engine-buffer on root from 2:0.9.9.050+svnr38274-r1 to 2:0.9.9.050+svnr39379-r1... Downloading http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libevas-engine-buffer_0.9 .9.050+svnr39379-r1_armv4t.ipk Upgrading libehal0 on root from 2:0.5.0.050+svnr38274-r1 to 2:0.5.0.050+svnr39379-r1... .. Collected errors: * Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/python-ecore_0.3.1+svnr39 379-ml0_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download python-ecore. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? * Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libecore-evas_0.9.9.050+s vnr39379-r1_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download libecore-evas. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? * Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libevas-engine-buffer_0.9 .9.050+svnr39379-r1_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download libevas-engine-buffer. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? * Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libehal0_0.5.0.050+svnr39 379-r1_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download libehal0. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? .. you catched the moment while building with a new EFL_SRCREV :-) while building the packages already built are there, but the index not yet... That might happen quite frequently in shr-unstable ;) Build has finished now and upgrade should work. Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 16:43:47 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Looks like the repository is broken. you catched the moment while building with a new EFL_SRCREV :-) while building the packages already built are there, but the index not yet... That might happen quite frequently in shr-unstable ;) Updating the feed should be more atomic. If I might say so. I would suggest uploading in a temp dir and then moving it on the right location. Or uploading dirs with build numbers and after finished just symlinking the new build on the default location. That would not break anyone currently in the process of upgrading. Build has finished now and upgrade should work. Oddly not. Still same error after update,uprade. Is there sill anything uploading? Or maybe not, I just remember that our admin has enabled a transparent proxy. That might give me the old index... -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - 3rd version - Can play wav files
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all Sorry for the delay, but I am really booked ! I have checked my control file. Will the following be enough ? Package: voicenote Priority: optional Section: openmoko/PIM Version: 0.3 Architecture: armv4t Maintainer: kimai...@gmail.com Depends: zenity alsa-utils-aplay Description: voicenote records the sound from the freerunner built-in microphone into a chosen folder. It can play the wave files too. Homepage: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote To me it looks good (but I don't know much about those..). I also downloaded the .ipk, opened it and the control file looked ok. I have no idea what might be causing it not work - or opkg.org script creating http://www.opkg.org/packages/Packages I think that it's not a control file problem. It is probably a package format problem. $ file voicenote_0.3_arm.ipk voicenote_0.3_arm.ipk: gzip compressed data, from Unix That should be: voicenote_0.3_arm.ipk: Debian binary package (format 2.0) -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells
I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version, that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells
Am Freitag, den 06.03.2009, 17:45 +0100 schrieb Pander: I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version, that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells. Please take a look at fso/milestone5.5 branch, Jan added a patch that makes it work again with the latest framework. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Am Freitag 06 März 2009 17:14:41 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 16:43:47 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Looks like the repository is broken. you catched the moment while building with a new EFL_SRCREV :-) while building the packages already built are there, but the index not yet... That might happen quite frequently in shr-unstable ;) Updating the feed should be more atomic. If I might say so. I would suggest uploading in a temp dir and then moving it on the right location. Or uploading dirs with build numbers and after finished just symlinking the new build on the default location. That would not break anyone currently in the process of upgrading. something like that... will think about it Build has finished now and upgrade should work. Oddly not. Still same error after update,uprade. Is there sill anything uploading? no uploading involved... the download dir is a symlink to the build dir... on the same host. Or maybe not, I just remember that our admin has enabled a transparent proxy. That might give me the old index... that would indeed be bad then :-) Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner
I am sorry. I think I did not understand what you said. Ok let me explain what I am doing. I am SSH'ing into my phone from my laptop and trying to run some python codes which will let me access the dbus for some phone specific features like IMEI number etc. However to get these values I was asked to use the cli-framework as it contains functions through which i can easily perform the activity. Now can I install all the features provided when I have only few present on my phone. -Sandy --- On Fri, 3/6/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: From: David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com Subject: Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:18 AM for use cli-framework you need the framework :), Actual Distros who have it , FSO, SHR, Debian and his derivates, ¿Gentoo? 2009/3/6 sandilya b san_dimi...@yahoo.com: I am having OM 2008.12 but it has only a few features when i checked the /usr/share/dbus-1/ folder. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: From: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Subject: Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 1:27 AM sandilya b san_dimi...@yahoo.com writes: I just got an openmoko freerunner phone and want to install cli-framework on it to use the various features of the d-bus system. Can someone help me with it? Which distro are you running? I think the phone is shipped with some om2007.X that does not offer org.freesmartphone api. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Freitag, den 06.03.2009, 17:45 +0100 schrieb Pander: I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version, that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells. Please take a look at fso/milestone5.5 branch, Jan added a patch that makes it work again with the latest framework. Hopefully that will be soon available via opkg upgrade. ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 17:14:41 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Or maybe not, I just remember that our admin has enabled a transparent proxy. That might give me the old index... that would indeed be bad then :-) Indeed. Luckily there was a alternative route which I could use. -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells
So the problem is in FSO? Why then I get neighbouring cells in zhone and not in Cellhunter? That kinda excludes problem in framework. Leonti On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Freitag, den 06.03.2009, 17:45 +0100 schrieb Pander: I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version, that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells. Please take a look at fso/milestone5.5 branch, Jan added a patch that makes it work again with the latest framework. Hopefully that will be soon available via opkg upgrade. ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Google web pages optimizer
your typical fun-spoiler always turns up. ;-) De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: vie 06/03/2009 14:32 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: Google web pages optimizer Thanks, have added the site to my office blacklists - was letting me access all sorts of blocked content through the innocuous looking google.com ;-) 2009/3/6 Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com: Hi! http://www.google.com/gwt/n - here you can optimize webb pages for pda use - very useful for expensive gprs connection. Did not know about this before today, so just had to share in case someone else finds it useful. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR - Latest unstable] TangoGPS
Tony Berth a écrit : which command did you use for that symbolic link? ln -s ... (man ln for arguments) -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner
2008.12 uses elements of QtExtended to provide its phone functionality. You can't simply install the freesmartphone.org framework on 2008.12 as the two will compete over resources such as the GSM interface, probably breaking both in the process. If you want to use the freesmartphone.org framework you will need to use a distro that supports it. That could be FSO, SHR, Debian, or possibly Gentoo. These can be installed to internal NAND, or to a partition on the SD card. You could even have a dual boot or multiboot setup - I have Android in NAND, and FSO milestone 4.1, SHR Unstable and FSO unstable on different SD partitions. These links should help you install your preferred distro: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD For FSO you should probably start with the Milestone 5.1 release: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5.1/om-gta02/ SHR has install instructions here: http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Install Debian has a chunk of documentation here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian On Friday 06 March 2009, sandilya b wrote: I am sorry. I think I did not understand what you said. Ok let me explain what I am doing. I am SSH'ing into my phone from my laptop and trying to run some python codes which will let me access the dbus for some phone specific features like IMEI number etc. However to get these values I was asked to use the cli-framework as it contains functions through which i can easily perform the activity. Now can I install all the features provided when I have only few present on my phone. -Sandy --- On Fri, 3/6/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: From: David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com Subject: Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:18 AM for use cli-framework you need the framework :), Actual Distros who have it , FSO, SHR, Debian and his derivates, ¿Gentoo? 2009/3/6 sandilya b san_dimi...@yahoo.com: I am having OM 2008.12 but it has only a few features when i checked the /usr/share/dbus-1/ folder. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: From: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Subject: Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 1:27 AM sandilya b san_dimi...@yahoo.com writes: I just got an openmoko freerunner phone and want to install cli-framework on it to use the various features of the d-bus system. Can someone help me with it? Which distro are you running? I think the phone is shipped with some om2007.X that does not offer org.freesmartphone api. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner
Thanks a lot for the reply. How can I use the dbus and get the values from the fone. For example. I want to write a python code that will give the the IMEI number and manufacturer details of my fone. how can i do that. I understand that once i have any of the FSO or SHR etc I can do that. Cant i just do it now on my phone without using them. Isnt there any feature in 2008.12 that will let me query the dbus directly. Is the only option to install. I am sorry if I am asking so many questions but i really need to know as I am very interested in working on this phone. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: From: Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 11:31 AM -Inline Attachment Follows- 2008.12 uses elements of QtExtended to provide its phone functionality. You can't simply install the freesmartphone.org framework on 2008.12 as the two will compete over resources such as the GSM interface, probably breaking both in the process. If you want to use the freesmartphone.org framework you will need to use a distro that supports it. That could be FSO, SHR, Debian, or possibly Gentoo. These can be installed to internal NAND, or to a partition on the SD card. You could even have a dual boot or multiboot setup - I have Android in NAND, and FSO milestone 4.1, SHR Unstable and FSO unstable on different SD partitions. These links should help you install your preferred distro: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD For FSO you should probably start with the Milestone 5.1 release: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5.1/om-gta02/ SHR has install instructions here: http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Install Debian has a chunk of documentation here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian On Friday 06 March 2009, sandilya b wrote: I am sorry. I think I did not understand what you said. Ok let me explain what I am doing. I am SSH'ing into my phone from my laptop and trying to run some python codes which will let me access the dbus for some phone specific features like IMEI number etc. However to get these values I was asked to use the cli-framework as it contains functions through which i can easily perform the activity. Now can I install all the features provided when I have only few present on my phone. -Sandy --- On Fri, 3/6/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: From: David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com Subject: Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:18 AM for use cli-framework you need the framework :), Actual Distros who have it , FSO, SHR, Debian and his derivates, ¿Gentoo? 2009/3/6 sandilya b san_dimi...@yahoo.com: I am having OM 2008.12 but it has only a few features when i checked the /usr/share/dbus-1/ folder. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: From: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Subject: Re: How to install cli-framework on my Neo FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 1:27 AM sandilya b san_dimi...@yahoo.com writes: I just got an openmoko freerunner phone and want to install cli-framework on it to use the various features of the d-bus system. Can someone help me with it? Which distro are you running? I think the phone is shipped with some om2007.X that does not offer org.freesmartphone api. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list
RE: Freerunner, Jalimo, rxtx, GPS
Hello, my goal is not just accessing the GPS device. I'm trying to run on Openmoko a certain java application that uses librxtx to access the GPS, and librxtx happens to be in the Openmoko-Jalimo repository. I'm not asking for the moon Anybody has used this librxtx? http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/ The person who uploaded it, perhaps? Regards, Juan Lucas De: Fredrik Wendt [mailto:fred...@wendt.se] Enviado el: vie 06/03/2009 8:50 Para: Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio Asunto: Re: [jalimo-info] Freerunner, Jalimo, rxtx, GPS On tor, 2009-03-05 at 20:48 +0100, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Dear list, [...] called /dev/ttySAC1, it says it does not exist. What am I doing wrong? I have no idea at all, but a question: have you tried using FSO and it's dbus API for GPS/positional services? / Fredrik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 16:43:47 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 11:13:41 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 10:47:20 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Hi all, for those of you who didn't see the blog on Openmoko-Planet or read the SHR Mailinglist... We did publish new testing images. Time for re-install by image or is opkg upgrade safe? See the announcement :-) upgrading from old shr-testing does not work... Sombody even tried it me thinks. Changing the repo config and upgrading from shr- unstable is supposed to work though. Oh, sorry. I was a bit unclear. I was on unstable before and I intend to stay on the bleeding edge. (Or at least see where that brings me...) Question is, what will happen if I do nothing. Is the new unstable a clean continuation of the old unstable or does it break updates? It still is a clean continuation... that might change though some day. Something is odd with this repo. :) See below. Looks like the repository is broken. you catched the moment while building with a new EFL_SRCREV :-) while building the packages already built are there, but the index not yet... Sorry to further pollute this thread. I successfully upgraded. No my desktop is completely empty. No icons whatsoever. -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-Testing release
Am Freitag 06 März 2009 19:34:05 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 16:43:47 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 11:13:41 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Freitag 06 März 2009 10:47:20 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Hi all, for those of you who didn't see the blog on Openmoko-Planet or read the SHR Mailinglist... We did publish new testing images. Time for re-install by image or is opkg upgrade safe? See the announcement :-) upgrading from old shr-testing does not work... Sombody even tried it me thinks. Changing the repo config and upgrading from shr- unstable is supposed to work though. Oh, sorry. I was a bit unclear. I was on unstable before and I intend to stay on the bleeding edge. (Or at least see where that brings me...) Question is, what will happen if I do nothing. Is the new unstable a clean continuation of the old unstable or does it break updates? It still is a clean continuation... that might change though some day. Something is odd with this repo. :) See below. Looks like the repository is broken. you catched the moment while building with a new EFL_SRCREV :-) while building the packages already built are there, but the index not yet... Sorry to further pollute this thread. I successfully upgraded. No my desktop is completely empty. No icons whatsoever. yep... have that too... thats the new EFL_SRCREV ;) known issue but unsolved up to now :( Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR upgrade leaves an empty screen
That's shr-unstable, so you will experience problems like that. If you don't want, use shr-testing. Problem is known, you can wait and try to upgrade every day ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [fso] no sound card
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 20:34 -0800, c_c wrote: Hi, Hans Zimmerman wrote: I do no longer seem to have a sound card in my FreeRunner as it is not found. The freerunner is running fso milestone 5.1 with opkg update opkg upgrade. Well, I have this problem too - and I really haven't had the time to pipe up on the fso or this list. Do the following :- modprobe snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 modprobe snd-pcm-oss alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/stereoout.state restore You'll get the sound card back. I keep these lines in a sh script - and use it everytime I reboot. HTH. Thanks for the advice but I was not able to test this suggestion. I already flashed the stable fso-paroli image and at least I can hear people talk now :-) Thanks though!! Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR upgrade leaves an empty screen
I have the same thing. What are these slider icons and how do I get them? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR upgrade leaves an empty screen
If you don't know that, you really shouldn't use shr-unstable 8) But in serious - that's in Illume config, at Launcher position. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR upgrade leaves an empty screen
Ahh, so I didn't know that one... I'm still learning. ;) Seriously, though, it's not really worth knowing. That's the most obnoxious and annoying way to start apps I've ever seen. :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Troubles with opkg.org repo
At the moment it looks like that the opkg.org repository is very unstable: packages keep breaking all the time more and more, now I wasn't install sortdesk anymore. AFAIK nothing has changed in the package itself. Tobias: Could you release the scripts that manage the files for public eye to check if we can find something wrong there. OK, I know that some packages are broken but also many that have a fine control fine, they still won't install. http://www.opkg.org/packages/Packages Many packages have only the filename md5.. Not enough for a repository.. How about http://www.opkg.org/packages/ - why some packages are named 0_something or 1_something? See: http://www.opkg.org/package_95.html#comments http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1399612 http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2009/2/11/4949014/thread#mid-4949014 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2230730 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2394770 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2320442 I'm getting really frustrated with this since there's nothing I can do r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR upgrade leaves an empty screen
Of course that you shouldn't was a joke, but for me -unstable is for people, who was in every place available from GUI on his system :D (like me ;)) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR upgrade leaves an empty screen
Oh, I was there once upon a time... But I forgot. :) Meanwhile, the suspend and power off buttons are now greyed out and unclickable... That's something of a massive problem. Any ideas? :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Navit is not finding current position
Hello! I've just installed navit from it's repository. I use SHR - testing distro. Fisrt I start TangoGPS and wait for fix (with latest frameworkd it's quite quick), than, after fix is got and I'm sure fso-gpsd is working I start Navit. But nothing indicates that it has found it's position. In Menu - Actions coordinates are still 48 and 11 (factory ones). How can I see my actual position? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR upgrade leaves an empty screen
That's only new EFLSRC_REV. We're just switched to it, so it just have to be polished ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR upgrade leaves an empty screen
No idea what ELFSRC_REV is, but if you switched to it, I assume it's better. :P (I hope) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells
Pander schrieb: I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version, that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells. mmh, i use shr testing without problems. did you upgrade (i did not)? the latest fso version requires the patch from jan. i will integrate it at on sunday i guess. Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to use other applications with Paroli fullscreen?
Hello, I've been tracking OM unstable. Now that Paroli is starting at boot with a full-screen I can't figure out how to start any other applications outside of using ssh. Then once started the application doesn't have the Illume top-bar available to do any of the functions it provided such as application switching or ending the program. I tried killing paroli-launcher. That left me with a black-screen. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks digger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells
What does this patch do? Why Zhone shows neighbouring cells ok, and Cellhunter doesn't? Leonti On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de wrote: Pander schrieb: I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version, that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells. mmh, i use shr testing without problems. did you upgrade (i did not)? the latest fso version requires the patch from jan. i will integrate it at on sunday i guess. Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian/fso] gridpad, anyone?
i built gridpad for debian, it runs and i can draw -- but whatever i do, no chars will ever appear in the terminal nor in leafpad. i use xfce -- is this thing usable with the enlightment eco system only? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells
Leonti Bielski schrieb: What does this patch do? Why Zhone shows neighbouring cells ok, and Cellhunter doesn't? cellhunter uses the dbus fso debug command zhone the dbus monitor feature the debug command fails with the latest fso, so the path fetches the information from the monitor interface. i will apply the patch as soon as i have the time to do it. Sebastian Leonti On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de wrote: Pander schrieb: I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version, that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells. mmh, i use shr testing without problems. did you upgrade (i did not)? the latest fso version requires the patch from jan. i will integrate it at on sunday i guess. Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use other applications with Paroli fullscreen?
Hi, I've been tracking OM unstable. Now that Paroli is starting at boot with a full-screen I can't figure out how to start any other applications outside of using ssh. Then once started the application doesn't have the Illume top-bar available to do any of the functions it provided such as application switching or ending the program. I tried killing paroli-launcher. That left me with a black-screen. Is there something I'm missing? No you aren't missing anything. Our goal is to provide a distribution that allows the user to use the gta02 as a daily phone. In order to achieve this faster we decided to make certain sacrifices to save time and energy, as our team is only small. One of these was worrying too much about integrating in illume. To put it in one sentence: for Now the paroli image comes with these styles installed. We hope we can change that in the future. There is a way of reactivating the old style, I will try to compile a document and publish it here. /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] kernel upgrade and touchscreen input problems
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 05:25:58 am arne anka wrote: When the screen goes dim, a tap of the screen brings the backlight back up, but it won't register the taps on the icons or the keyboard, or the lock screen. The Xorg log shows: (EE) PreInit returned NULL for Configured Touchscreen sounds like you do use xserver-xorg-input-tslib, check your xorg.conf, instead of TslibDevice now it is only Device. That was the problem. Thanks! I'm still working on the other issues. Eli --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram retrac...@gmail.com `- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
