Re: How to fix missing icons in SHR-Unstable

2009-03-08 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Sonntag 08 März 2009 03:19:33 schrieb The Digital Pioneer:
 Hey, all. I've heard the devs are going to release a fix for the missing
 icons in SHR soon, but for those like me who just can't wait, I think I've
 got a fix. I've attached a file which needs to be put into /etc/xdg/menus/
 and that should get your icons back. If it doesn't, let me know and I'll
 try to figure out what else I did.
well... that would be surprising... we (more specifically dos1) found the issue 
and 'opkg install e-wm-utils' fixes it. See blog.shr-project.org for details.

Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann


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Re: [debian] Illume won't show any icons

2009-03-08 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Sonntag 08 März 2009 01:56:41 schrieb Jeffrey Ratcliffe:
 Following this thread:

 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2315355

 I installed menu-xdg, deleted ~/.e and restarted e, and was able to
 choose Enlightenment (Applications), but I still see no icons.

 What else do I have to do?

 Illume is in black and white. Is this supposed to be the case?

 Regards

 Jeff

don't know for debian... we had missing icons because of not installed e-wm-
utils... 

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Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12

2009-03-08 Thread Marius Næss Olsen
Some packages are broken, so sortdesk is not being installed.

xChris skrev:
 Hi,

 I just run the Kustomizer 0.35 on a fresh 2008.12.

 There are no application-categories (as I see from the screenshoots) , every
 application is on the desktop. 

 is it a bug?

 chris
   


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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:32 AM, The Digital Pioneer
digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote:
 Of course, opkg gives the obligatory segfault. Had to download package
 manually. :(

I'm sure we're all experienced the opkg.org problems..

Please have a look at this here: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html
It tells how the repository is built. Try to find what's wrong there..
Being able to find it would allow everyone a nice smooth opkg.org
repository experince..

Anyway, thanks for the new version!


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Re: [debian] xfce and xglamo

2009-03-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes:
 The second problem (which is the real blocker) is that some programs use
 a way too large font. It is so huge that i can't use them. Interestingly

What is xdpyinfo showing as DPI when this happens?


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Re: Pulster fixe(s) / adding caps for bass

2009-03-08 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Lifting the can and meddling with the caps is nontrivial.  Somebody did
| give this plan a go on the list about 6 months ago and reported some
| success though.  But I don't recommend considering it unless you are in
| an experimental frame of mind and can deal with the fiddling and risk
| involved.
|
| I understand that it won't be trivial. Maybe not for me. But if openmoko
| creates a standard procedure for this improvement too, then I can have
| an electronic repair shop do everything in one go - both buzz and bass
| fixes. That will cost me less than having the fixes done separately,
| even if both fixes together may cost a bit more than buzz only. I hope
| to ship the phone only once, the repair guy will need to open it only
| once...

I did this rework thismorning just to see how possible it is.  I wrote
up the following document about it

http://people.openmoko.org/andy/additional-headset-audio-caps.pdf

but this isn't intended to be any official story, just something for
people to try at their own risk.  Don't go near it unless you're
confident you can handle the rework listed in there.

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Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12

2009-03-08 Thread xChris

btw, when after I installed the Kustomizer, I cannot hear anymore from the
handset.
I changed the states,  but still nothing.

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Re: Troubles with opkg.org repo

2009-03-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Tobias Kündig tobias.kuen...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is a little summary of what I do: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html

Thanks Tobias!

At #openmoko tried to figure out what's wrong. Someone pointed out
that ftp uses ascii mode by default - I suppose you're uploading at
least the Packages -ascii file. How about packages.gz. Man ftp says
that ascii upload of binary files might corrupt it - this might be
the problem - using binary format shouldn't corrupt the .gz

Another find was that 22 packages out of 93 were other than Debian
Binary when checked with file *ipk. The list file types listed below:

DEBIAN BINARY – CORRECT!!!
neon_0.9.8-r1_all.ipk
openmoocow_0.3_armv4t.ipk
nethack_3.4.3-10.1-0.4_armv4t.ipk
openmiaocat_0.2.2_armv4t.ipk
orrery_2.4_arm_2008.8.ipk
pyring_1.1.6-r1_armv4t.ipk
python-pyalsaaudio_0.3-ml0_armv4t.ipk
perpendicular_0.1_armv4t.ipk
pong_0.1_armv4t.ipk
liquidwar_5.6.4-2_armv4t.ipk
moko-eightball_0.20080721_om-gta02.ipk
mokogeocaching_0.2_all.ipk
meooem_0.1_armv4t.ipk
minimo_0.02+cvs20070626-r1_armv4t.ipk
mokomaze_0.2.2-1_armv4t.ipk
mokox48_1.0_arm_2008.8.ipk
mutagen_svn-4350-2_armv4t.ipk
mokopod_0.1.5_armv4t.ipk
mokosync_0.1_arm.ipk
tangogps_0.9.6-r0_armv4t.ipk
wicd_1.5.6_armv4t.ipk
wlan_0.3_arm.ipk
tor-0.2.0.34_0.1_armv4t.ipk
usbmode-button_0.3_armv4t.ipk
xmahjongg-3.7_0.2_armv4t.ipk
zinnia-tomoe-ja_0.6.0-20080911_armv4t.ipk
zinnia-tomoe-zh_0.6.0-20080911_armv4t.ipk
zedlock_0.1_armv4t.ipk
zinnia_0.02_armv4t.ipk
pytomboy_0.1_armv4t.ipk
remoko-server_0.2.1_svnr119-r0_armv4t.ipk
rotate_0.0.2_armv4t.ipk
qwo_0.4_armv4t.ipk
remoko_0.3.2_armv4t.ipk
rotator_0.1_all.ipk
sms-sentry_1.0-r0_armv4t.ipk
swedish-illume_0.1_armv4t.ipk
satan_0.4_armv4t.ipk
scummvm_0.12.0_armv4t.ipk
deforaos-browser_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk
epiano_0.3.1-r1_armv4t.ipk
ethtool_6_armv4t.ipk
deforaos-editor_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk
enscribi_0.1_armv4t.ipk
euphony_0.1.3-r0_armv4t.ipk
ffalarms_0.2-r0_all.ipk
fido_0.2.2-r0_armv4t.ipk
evopedia_0.1_any.ipk
fbreader_0.8.2a-r7+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk
0_pythm_0.5.5-dmr_armv4t.ipk
1_wireshark_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk
acceleroids_0.1.0-0_armv4t.ipk
0_tshark_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk
0_wireshark-common_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk
bt-gps_1.0-r0_armv4t.ipk
cellhunter_0.4.2_armv4t.ipk
agps_0.1_armv4t.ipk
danish-illume-0.0.1.ipk
batalarm_0.2_all.ipk
illume-default-alt_0.1_arm.ipk
guitartune_0.31_arm.ipk
gtick_0.1_armv4t.ipk
fourier_1.1_arm.ipk
leafpad_0.8.15-r1_armv4t.ipk
libsystem_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk
gwaterpas_0.2_armv4t.ipk
ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
flashlight_0.1_armv4t.ipk
gridpad_2.0-r0.1_armv4t.ipk
gridpad_1.432-r0.1_armv4t.ipk
libboost-signals1.33.1_1.33.1-r3_armv4t.ipk

DATA
gpssight_0.8.4_freerunner.armv4t.ipk

EMPTY
sortdesk_1.2_armv4t.ipk
jdd_0.1_all.ipk
usbmode_0.1_armv4t.ipk
accel-rotate_0.41_armv4t.ipk
0_multitap-pad_0.1_armv4t.ipk
omview_r32_armv4t.ipk
deforaos-player_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk
illume-keyboards-ru_0.2_om-gta02.ipk

GZIP
yphonekitd_0.4.3_any.ipk
zomg_0.0.6-r2_armv4t.ipk
mbac_0.3_all.ipk
ylock_0.2_all.ipk
mofi_0.02_armv4t.ipk
illume-keyboards-norwegian-no_0.1_all.ipk
efplayer_0.3_arm.ipk
playstankontakarta_0.4_any.ipk
osmupdater_0.4_any.ipk
voicenote_0.3_arm.ipk
mokocard_0.1_all.ipk
mokoconv_0.1_all.ipk
shortom_0.2_all.ipk

So things seem to fail because:
- Empty file is an empty file, not much to discuss about that. Only
need to find out the reason for that: did the authors really upload an
empty package or did the upload fail but an empty file was created?

- ar isn't able to extract gzip files so all files recognized as gzip
will not get listed properly in the Packages file. Again the reason
for the wrong file type should be found: did the packages package it
wrong or did the type/mime/something get corrupted along the way,
during the upload or on the server?

So if YOU reader have packaged some of the packages not recognized as
debian binary please make sure that the package you upload is
recognized as debian binary with the command 'file packagename.ipk'
and then upload it again..

Now we only need to find out a way to contact all packagers...



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Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12

2009-03-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:00 PM, xChris ch...@c-64.mobi wrote:

 btw, when after I installed the Kustomizer, I cannot hear anymore from the
 handset.
 I changed the states,  but still nothing.

Hmm.. this is interesting.. What version did you install, 0.35 or the
devel version. Devel has some changes in pythm config, it _might_ have
some effect but not sure.. Check alsamixer if you can find anything
there.. I'll try to have a look at it too..


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Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12

2009-03-08 Thread xChris

nevermind...

I had a backup of some alsa states.(from previous installations)  I put them
on the Freerunner, its ok now..

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Your package is broken in opkg.org

2009-03-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
(cc:d the authors of some broken packages I was able to extract the
e-mail address from..)

Hi!

If you have packaged some of the apps listed below, I just want to let
you know that the package in opkg.org is broken and not recognized as
an installable file
(to try this, download the packages from opkg.org and run file
package.ipk - it should return Debian Binary but for the ones listed
below, it returns data/empty or gzip)

So please check that your local package returns debian binary and then
upload it again to opkg.org. The file need to have a control file in
it to work in the opkg.org repository opkg.org/packages

Packaging instructions can be found at
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/packaging/

Thanks!

r

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
 DATA
 gpssight_0.8.4_freerunner.armv4t.ipk

 EMPTY
 sortdesk_1.2_armv4t.ipk
 jdd_0.1_all.ipk
 usbmode_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 accel-rotate_0.41_armv4t.ipk
 0_multitap-pad_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 omview_r32_armv4t.ipk
 deforaos-player_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk
 illume-keyboards-ru_0.2_om-gta02.ipk

 GZIP
 yphonekitd_0.4.3_any.ipk
 zomg_0.0.6-r2_armv4t.ipk
 mbac_0.3_all.ipk
 ylock_0.2_all.ipk
 mofi_0.02_armv4t.ipk
 illume-keyboards-norwegian-no_0.1_all.ipk
 efplayer_0.3_arm.ipk
 playstankontakarta_0.4_any.ipk
 osmupdater_0.4_any.ipk
 voicenote_0.3_arm.ipk
 mokocard_0.1_all.ipk
 mokoconv_0.1_all.ipk
 shortom_0.2_all.ipk

 So things seem to fail because:
 - Empty file is an empty file, not much to discuss about that. Only
 need to find out the reason for that: did the authors really upload an
 empty package or did the upload fail but an empty file was created?

 - ar isn't able to extract gzip files so all files recognized as gzip
 will not get listed properly in the Packages file. Again the reason
 for the wrong file type should be found: did the packages package it
 wrong or did the type/mime/something get corrupted along the way,
 during the upload or on the server?



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Re: Troubles with opkg.org repo

2009-03-08 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Am Sunday 08 March 2009 14:30:36 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
 On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Tobias Kündig tobias.kuen...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  This is a little summary of what I do: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html

 Thanks Tobias!

 At #openmoko tried to figure out what's wrong. Someone pointed out
 that ftp uses ascii mode by default - I suppose you're uploading at
 least the Packages -ascii file. How about packages.gz. Man ftp says
 that ascii upload of binary files might corrupt it - this might be
 the problem - using binary format shouldn't corrupt the .gz

 Another find was that 22 packages out of 93 were other than Debian
 Binary when checked with file *ipk. The list file types listed below:

 DEBIAN BINARY – CORRECT!!!
 neon_0.9.8-r1_all.ipk
 openmoocow_0.3_armv4t.ipk
 nethack_3.4.3-10.1-0.4_armv4t.ipk
 openmiaocat_0.2.2_armv4t.ipk
 orrery_2.4_arm_2008.8.ipk
 pyring_1.1.6-r1_armv4t.ipk
 python-pyalsaaudio_0.3-ml0_armv4t.ipk
 perpendicular_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 pong_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 liquidwar_5.6.4-2_armv4t.ipk
 moko-eightball_0.20080721_om-gta02.ipk
 mokogeocaching_0.2_all.ipk
 meooem_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 minimo_0.02+cvs20070626-r1_armv4t.ipk
 mokomaze_0.2.2-1_armv4t.ipk
 mokox48_1.0_arm_2008.8.ipk
 mutagen_svn-4350-2_armv4t.ipk
 mokopod_0.1.5_armv4t.ipk
 mokosync_0.1_arm.ipk
 tangogps_0.9.6-r0_armv4t.ipk
 wicd_1.5.6_armv4t.ipk
 wlan_0.3_arm.ipk
 tor-0.2.0.34_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 usbmode-button_0.3_armv4t.ipk
 xmahjongg-3.7_0.2_armv4t.ipk
 zinnia-tomoe-ja_0.6.0-20080911_armv4t.ipk
 zinnia-tomoe-zh_0.6.0-20080911_armv4t.ipk
 zedlock_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 zinnia_0.02_armv4t.ipk
 pytomboy_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 remoko-server_0.2.1_svnr119-r0_armv4t.ipk
 rotate_0.0.2_armv4t.ipk
 qwo_0.4_armv4t.ipk
 remoko_0.3.2_armv4t.ipk
 rotator_0.1_all.ipk
 sms-sentry_1.0-r0_armv4t.ipk
 swedish-illume_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 satan_0.4_armv4t.ipk
 scummvm_0.12.0_armv4t.ipk
 deforaos-browser_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk
 epiano_0.3.1-r1_armv4t.ipk
 ethtool_6_armv4t.ipk
 deforaos-editor_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk
 enscribi_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 euphony_0.1.3-r0_armv4t.ipk
 ffalarms_0.2-r0_all.ipk
 fido_0.2.2-r0_armv4t.ipk
 evopedia_0.1_any.ipk
 fbreader_0.8.2a-r7+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk
 0_pythm_0.5.5-dmr_armv4t.ipk
 1_wireshark_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk
 acceleroids_0.1.0-0_armv4t.ipk
 0_tshark_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk
 0_wireshark-common_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk
 bt-gps_1.0-r0_armv4t.ipk
 cellhunter_0.4.2_armv4t.ipk
 agps_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 danish-illume-0.0.1.ipk
 batalarm_0.2_all.ipk
 illume-default-alt_0.1_arm.ipk
 guitartune_0.31_arm.ipk
 gtick_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 fourier_1.1_arm.ipk
 leafpad_0.8.15-r1_armv4t.ipk
 libsystem_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk
 gwaterpas_0.2_armv4t.ipk
 ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
 flashlight_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 gridpad_2.0-r0.1_armv4t.ipk
 gridpad_1.432-r0.1_armv4t.ipk
 libboost-signals1.33.1_1.33.1-r3_armv4t.ipk

 DATA
 gpssight_0.8.4_freerunner.armv4t.ipk

 EMPTY
 sortdesk_1.2_armv4t.ipk
 jdd_0.1_all.ipk
 usbmode_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 accel-rotate_0.41_armv4t.ipk
 0_multitap-pad_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 omview_r32_armv4t.ipk
 deforaos-player_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk
 illume-keyboards-ru_0.2_om-gta02.ipk

 GZIP
 yphonekitd_0.4.3_any.ipk
 zomg_0.0.6-r2_armv4t.ipk
 mbac_0.3_all.ipk
 ylock_0.2_all.ipk
 mofi_0.02_armv4t.ipk
 illume-keyboards-norwegian-no_0.1_all.ipk
 efplayer_0.3_arm.ipk
 playstankontakarta_0.4_any.ipk
 osmupdater_0.4_any.ipk
 voicenote_0.3_arm.ipk
 mokocard_0.1_all.ipk
 mokoconv_0.1_all.ipk
 shortom_0.2_all.ipk

 So things seem to fail because:
 - Empty file is an empty file, not much to discuss about that. Only
 need to find out the reason for that: did the authors really upload an
 empty package or did the upload fail but an empty file was created?

 - ar isn't able to extract gzip files so all files recognized as gzip
 will not get listed properly in the Packages file. Again the reason
 for the wrong file type should be found: did the packages package it
 wrong or did the type/mime/something get corrupted along the way,
 during the upload or on the server?

 So if YOU reader have packaged some of the packages not recognized as
 debian binary please make sure that the package you upload is
 recognized as debian binary with the command 'file packagename.ipk'
 and then upload it again..

 Now we only need to find out a way to contact all packagers...



 r

Additionally there are a lot of Packages that don't contain a control file 
with depencies and so on:

Form the packages in debian format are these:

0_tshark_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk
danish-illume-0.0.1.ipk   
gtick_0.1_armv4t.ipk 
numptyphysics_0.3-svn118_armv4t.opk
wicd_1.5.6_armv4t.ipk
0_wireshark-common_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk  
deforaos-browser_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk 
guitartune_0.31_arm.ipk  
openttd_0.6-r0.6_armv4t.opk   
xmahjongg-3.7_0.2_armv4t.ipk
0_xlogical_1.0-8-r0.4_armv4t.opk
deforaos-editor_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk  
illume-keyboards-dutch-nl_0.3_all.opk   
pong_0.1_armv4t.ipk

Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12

2009-03-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:00 PM, xChris ch...@c-64.mobi wrote:

 nevermind...

 I had a backup of some alsa states.(from previous installations)  I put them
 on the Freerunner, its ok now..

Hmm.. I suppose this means that kustomizer might install broken alsta
states.. Could you still specify what version did you use?

Thanks!


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Re: Troubles with opkg.org repo

2009-03-08 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
(...cut...)

With that huge list of broken packages, wouldn't it be better to just 
remove them from opkg.org's repository while good versions are uploaded?
maybe after that implement some sort of automatic check for both 
conditions (file type and control file inside)

regards
Tom

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Re: Your package is broken in opkg.org

2009-03-08 Thread François TOURDE
Le 14311ième jour après Epoch,
Risto H. Kurppa écrivait:

 If you have packaged some of the apps listed below, I just want to let
 you know that the package in opkg.org is broken and not recognized as
 an installable file

Hi Risto.

Mine (jdd) is correct on my local machine. I uploaded it again (twice
because of a mistake) on opkg.org, and now the file n_mypackage
seems to be correct.

The new naming convention (n_package) may cause some problems. Should I remove
completely the package before reinstalling it ?

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Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12

2009-03-08 Thread xChris

Hi,

its the:

# Version 0.35 - 2009-02-20



Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 
 On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:00 PM, xChris ch...@c-64.mobi wrote:

 nevermind...

 I had a backup of some alsa states.(from previous installations)  I put
 them
 on the Freerunner, its ok now..
 
 Hmm.. I suppose this means that kustomizer might install broken alsta
 states.. Could you still specify what version did you use?
 
 Thanks!
 
 
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Re: Flashing GSM firmware

2009-03-08 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello,

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Tom Yates madhat...@teaparty.net wrote:
 if anyone else is minded to try it, there are a few more details at
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image .

Will this image work on a Neo 1973 as well?
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[Debian] Launch openmoko-panel-plugin functions from .desktop files?

2009-03-08 Thread Marcel
Hello,

Since illume doesn't provide a systray (and the screen's too slim for all the 
icons anyway), I'm looking for a way to for example launch the usb-mode- or 
the shutdown/suspend/wifi(on|off)-panel by hand from some .desktop icon 
instead of the (unavailable) systray symbol. I had a look at the code but I 
don't really understand what launches what and when there... As of writing 
this, I remember some of that must be possible through mdbus calls, but does 
frameworkd provide functions for switching usb host/client mode? (Okay, I 
could find that out myself, API docs ftw...)
But the question stays the same: Can I somehow launch these nice panels 
manually?

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Re: Flashing GSM firmware

2009-03-08 Thread Paul Fertser
Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com writes:
 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Tom Yates madhat...@teaparty.net wrote:
 if anyone else is minded to try it, there are a few more details at
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image .

 Will this image work on a Neo 1973 as well?

Not yet. But the manual instructions at the OM wiki were verified to
work on Neo1973.

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Re: [Debian] Launch openmoko-panel-plugin functions from .desktop files?

2009-03-08 Thread Sebastian Ohl
Hi,
On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 15:55 +0100, Marcel wrote:
 Since illume doesn't provide a systray (and the screen's too slim for all the 
 icons anyway), I'm looking for a way to for example launch the usb-mode- or 
 the shutdown/suspend/wifi(on|off)-panel by hand from some .desktop icon 
 instead of the (unavailable) systray symbol. I had a look at the code but I 
 don't really understand what launches what and when there... As of writing 
 this, I remember some of that must be possible through mdbus calls, but does 
 frameworkd provide functions for switching usb host/client mode? (Okay, I 
 could find that out myself, API docs ftw...)
 But the question stays the same: Can I somehow launch these nice panels 
 manually?
i don't know if i am understanding you correctly: you want to start only
a part of opp without haveing a systray application running, right?
first of all you can disable the icons you don't want to have in opp so
there should be no need to strip opp down to what you wanne use. second
the initialization of the icons are mainly done in the StatusIcon object
of the opp code. if you want to add icons to an other environment than
systray, you may want to change this code. we are always happy to
receive patches to enhance opp. but may be the easyest was to achive
your goal is to find/write a systray application for illume.

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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix
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Re: How to fix missing icons in SHR-Unstable

2009-03-08 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Well, I tried reinstalling e-wm-utils, but that didn't have any apparent
effect. Playing with applications.menu did. IDK what the problem was, but
that's how I fixed it.
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Re: How to fix missing icons in SHR-Unstable

2009-03-08 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 18:41, The Digital Pioneer
digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, I tried reinstalling e-wm-utils, but that didn't have any apparent
 effect. Playing with applications.menu did. IDK what the problem was, but
 that's how I fixed it.

e-wm-utils was first problem, aplications.menu is now second one. Only
effect is the same :D

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Re: How to fix missing icons in SHR-Unstable

2009-03-08 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Ahh, so I guess I halfway fixed it without noticing... OK, so reinstall
e-wm-utils and then fix applications.menu?
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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-08 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

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Yes it's a different way to come at it.

By putting the caps in that case void 100uF will fit easily, but it
needs long leads, the leads violate the can frame / can clearance, you
have to cut the can and make some kind of grommet for the leads to pass
through.  I dunno what happens to BT antenna effectiveness either.

The way I documented you keep the leads short, the components are all in
the can and the can is unchanged, but you're limited to 22uF or maybe 47uF.

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Re: How to use other applications with Paroli fullscreen?

2009-03-08 Thread digger vermont
On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 23:12 -0500, Mirko Lindner wrote:
 Hi,
  I've been tracking OM unstable.  Now that Paroli is starting at boot
  with a full-screen I can't figure out how to start any other
  applications outside of using ssh.  Then once started the application
  doesn't have the Illume top-bar available to do any of the functions it
  provided such as application switching or ending the program.  I tried
  killing paroli-launcher.  That left me with a black-screen.
  
  Is there something I'm missing?
  
 No you aren't missing anything. Our goal is to provide a distribution 
 that allows the user to use the gta02 as a daily phone. In order to 
 achieve this faster we decided to make certain sacrifices to save time 
 and energy, as our team is only small. One of these was worrying too 
 much about integrating in illume.
 
 To put it in one sentence:
 
 for Now the paroli image comes with these styles installed. We hope we 
 can change that in the future. There is a way of reactivating the old 
 style, I will try to compile a document and publish it here.
 
 /mirko
 

Mirko, thanks for your reply.  However like Scott Petersen, I
unfortunately feel the need to rant.
  
I find the decision frustrating.  I guess I don't see why Illume and
Paroli are at such odds.  With Paroli's current direction it seems to
mean that if I want to help develop Paroli, as it is meant to be used, I
must give up using the FreeRunner for anything else.  By isolating
Paroli in that way it may have the effect of even more fragmentation of
community resources and less people joining in on its development.  I'll
tell you, it makes me feel less enthusiastic.  

My desire is to be developing on the FreeRunner.  Paroli seems like a
good way to go.  I enjoy working with Python, Edje, and now learning
Elementary.  To that end I have been experimenting with Paroli toward
the goal of integrating FSO Control[0] into it.  Unfortunately the
time when I can do that is sporadic and, due to those constraints, I
can't just plain say, Yes I will be helping with Paroli.  So my
frustration is also that I can't commit my own support to any large
degree in an effort to steer Paroli's direction.

digger


[0]There is a new release, version 0.2.0, at
   https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=225
   I've had problems with opkg.org and haven't had time to make a
   proper announcement.


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Re: How to use other applications with Paroli fullscreen?

2009-03-08 Thread digger vermont
On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:04 -0800, Scott Petersen wrote:
 Mirko Lindner wrote:
  Hi,
   I've been tracking OM unstable.  Now that Paroli is starting at boot
   with a full-screen I can't figure out how to start any other
   applications outside of using ssh.  Then once started the application
   doesn't have the Illume top-bar available to do any of the functions it
   provided such as application switching or ending the program.  I tried
   killing paroli-launcher.  That left me with a black-screen.
...

  To put it in one sentence:
 
  for Now the paroli image comes with these styles installed. We hope we 
  can change that in the future. There is a way of reactivating the old 
  style, I will try to compile a document and publish it here.
 
  /mirko

 I too have been tracking the unstable images and slowly digging in to 
 the code to try and contribute.
 
 First the answer:
 
 You can get back to using illume by logging in with SSH and doing
 
 opkg remove paroli-autostart
 rm -rf /home/root/.e
 reboot
 

Similarly, I flashed with fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2.  I think the end
result is about the same except for a reflash.  Thanks for the
suggestion.

 You should then get the illume launcher on next boot and be able to 
...
 
 Second a bit of a rant:
 
 I have to say that I am extremely disappointed in this decision to 
 prevent users from using the functionality of their phone. Why would 
 anyone want to purchase a piece of hardware with as much promise as the 
 freerunner and not be able to use it for anything but what a sub $50 
 dollar phone has been able to do for years? It just doesn't make sense 
 to me when it seems so easy to shrink paroli down a little bit and use 
 illume. I have wondered for some time about why Paroli was duplicating 
 functionality from illume. (e.g. the Battery level) Now I understand and 
 I am flabbergasted. Yes I do want stable phone functionality but not at 
 the expense of all other functionality.
 
 Scott Petersen

You've voiced close to my own sentiments.

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Re: Your package is broken in opkg.org

2009-03-08 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 04:01:45PM +0200, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 (cc:d the authors of some broken packages I was able to extract the
 e-mail address from..)
 
 Hi!
 
 If you have packaged some of the apps listed below, I just want to let
 you know that the package in opkg.org is broken and not recognized as
 an installable file
 (to try this, download the packages from opkg.org and run file
 package.ipk - it should return Debian Binary but for the ones listed
 below, it returns data/empty or gzip)

   Another type of breakage I've seen is this one (data and control archives
in wrong order):

$ ar tv fluid_0.0+svn20070817-r2_armv4t_eabi.ipk 
rw-r--r-- 1000/1000  4 Aug 17 02:28 2007 debian-binary
rw-r--r-- 1000/1000  45830 Aug 17 02:28 2007 data.tar.gz
rw-r--r-- 1000/1000411 Aug 17 02:28 2007 control.tar.gz

   While this seems to work fine with the Debian tools, it would be
preferable to fix the tool which builds the packages that way. Packages
broken this way can be fixed like this:

$ cd empty_directory
$ ar xov broken_package.ipk
$ rm broken_package.ipk
$ ar qcv broken_package.ipk debian-binary control.tar.gz data.tar.gz
$ rm debian-binary control.tar.gz data.tar.gz

  GZIP
  yphonekitd_0.4.3_any.ipk
  zomg_0.0.6-r2_armv4t.ipk
[snip]

   They might be gzipped tar archives. An example case I came across:

$ cd empty_directory
$ tar -zxf pingus_0.7.2-r0_armv4t_DolfFix.ipk
$ rm pingus_0.7.2-r0_armv4t_DolfFix.ipk
$ ar qcv pingus_0.7.2-r0_armv4t_DolfFix.ipk debian-binary control.tar.gz 
data.tar.gz
$ rm debian-binary control.tar.gz data.tar.gz

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Re: Troubles with opkg.org repo

2009-03-08 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 09:09:15AM +0100, Tobias Kündig wrote:
 This is a little summary of what I do: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html

   Debian has this tool called dpkg-scanpackages in the dpkg-dev package. It
might simplify your create_repo script. Example usage:

$ cat updateindex
#!/bin/sh

( dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null \
; dpkg-scanpackages -t opk . /dev/null \
; dpkg-scanpackages -t ipk . /dev/null ) \
| sed -e 's_^Filename: ./_Filename: _' \
| gzip --best Packages.gz


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Re: How to use other applications with Paroli fullscreen?

2009-03-08 Thread Neil Jerram
digger vermont dv_ml...@verizon.net writes:

 I find the decision frustrating.  I guess I don't see why Illume and
 Paroli are at such odds.  With Paroli's current direction it seems to
 mean that if I want to help develop Paroli, as it is meant to be used, I
 must give up using the FreeRunner for anything else.  By isolating
 Paroli in that way it may have the effect of even more fragmentation of
 community resources and less people joining in on its development.  I'll
 tell you, it makes me feel less enthusiastic.  

I agree.  I haven't commented on this before, because I didn't want to
be purely negative; but if others are feeling the same way, perhaps
it's worth adding my voice.

To be honest, my heart fell when I read the very beginning of the
Paroli website: In a few words one could say: paroli is a new
approach to application development on the openmoko phones.  My
reaction to that?  Good grief, that's exactly what we DON'T need.
In other words, a new approach is exactly what we don't need - and
especially a new approach that shuts out all previous approaches.

What we need, in my opinion, is the hard work - in terms of QA,
usability, and bugfixing - of polishing what is already out there; not
reinventing the wheel again from scratch.  Frankly, anyone can start a
new approach; that's easy.  The hard part is finally getting to an
actual product.

To make a constructive suggestion: I wonder what the official Openmoko
view is of SHR Testing?  I think it's pretty good, so

- why not help to polish that?

- if not, what _precise_ reasons do OM have for believing that the
  Paroli route will produce (in the near future) something better than
  SHR?

Regards,
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Re: How to use other applications with Paroli fullscreen?

2009-03-08 Thread Johny Tenfinger
 To make a constructive suggestion: I wonder what the official Openmoko
 view is of SHR Testing?  I think it's pretty good, so

 - why not help to polish that?

 - if not, what _precise_ reasons do OM have for believing that the
 Paroli route will produce (in the near future) something better than
 SHR?

I'm glad Openmoko is away from SHR - their designers has very strange
ideas and points of view... If you don't know about what I'm talking -
ask raster ;)

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Newbie questions

2009-03-08 Thread Mile Davidovic
Hello I would like to start developing application which should use CSD
(datacall) capability of GTA02 phone.

As I am new in this please help me with following:
On http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributionspage
I have read a lot of info regarding various distro (OM 2008.12, FSO, FDOM,
QtExt, Android ...).
  If I want to use GTA02 as every day phone which distro I should chose?
  According to table on same page Qt Extended is most mature, but I do not
see any information about OM 2008.12?

My second questions is regarding status of CSD, according to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd CSD is not supported. Do we have any
update on this topic?

Kind regards
Mile
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Re: [2008.12] GPS from python

2009-03-08 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:39:33 +0100
GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org wrote:

 On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 22:27 +0100, Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
  It seems not work on SHR-testing :(
 That's normal...you are using the gpsd bindings on your desktop
 computer.
 They permit you to talk to a gpsd compatible device
 I tested it with fso-gpsd(python on my desktop with the gpsd
 bindings(so I needed to install gpsd on my desktop to get the
 bindings) and fso-gpsd on the openmoko)

Oh, that's interesting. fso-gpsd should actually be gpsd compatible.
Could you explain more why it's not working/what is not working or what
gps.py actually does to talk to gpsd.

One problem you might encounter is that ogpsd and fso-gpsd only switch
on the GPS when there's actually a program that needs GPS. In the case
of fso-gpsd that happens when you connect to the gpsd port.
My guess is that the connection is either made at the constructor
(g = gps.gps()) or for every call (g.query(admosy)).
At this point the chip will not have any fix for sure, even with
hotstart working it usually takes ~16 seconds.

What you can do to test my hypothesis is start a different program like
the GPS view in zhone and wait until GPS actually has a fix and then
try with your program. If you get a fix then you can request the
resource GPS to make sure GPS stays on.

 So you have 2 solutions:
 1)replace fso-gpsd by gpsd
 2)use dbus to talk to the GPS

3)Make fso-gpsd compatible with gpsd so gps.py works.

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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-03-08 Thread kimaidou
Waou, THIS IS GREAT ! I am very happy to find someone with the same will,
but skilled ! For me, qwo is also the fastest keyboard, and making it
fullscreen + transparent will make it the killer keyboard. Congratulation
for sharing your method. I will try it asap.

Kimaidou

2009/3/8 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk

 Hello,

 despite some skepticism about having transparent keyboard in illume, I
 decided to try it. After some work, I got it working. More precisely, I
 am using the qwo external keyboard (an implementation of quikwriting
 technique); imho it's great with stylus, and also quite finger-friendly
 when the keyboard is large enough. I think it's quite usable. As for
 speed, displaying/hiding the keyboard is quicker than displaying/hiding
 the default keyboard, since the application window is not resized (which
 is usually quite slow).

 I wrote a small howto about it, it's (together with screenshots) here:
 http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/%7Eriso/Openmoko/qwo/

 Actually, to get it work, I had to fix some bugs/annoying features of
 Xglamo. I reported these (together with patches) as ticket #2242 and
 #2243 at docs.openmoko.org about one week ago. Unfortunately, I got no
 answer regarding these patches. Would it be possible to accept them to
 the openembedded repository and close the tickets?

 Next, I had to force illume not to resize the running application when
 displaying keyboard, and also not to force the width of the keyboard to
 be equal to the width of the screen. Currently, I have only very ugly
 hack to do this and I am not quite sure how to do it right. I am
 thinking of making illume look for the _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY property
 on external keyboards, and behave in above-described way if this
 property is set. Would this be acceptable for including upstream?

 Greets
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Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12

2009-03-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:42 PM, xChris ch...@c-64.mobi wrote:

 Hi,

 its the:

 # Version 0.35 - 2009-02-20

OK, thanks. I'll have a look what's wrong there and if it's fixed in
the devel version..


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Re: Open IPKG packages from command line

2009-03-08 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:10:14AM +0100, Kasper Johansen wrote:
 Hi list.
 
 Is it possible to extract a IPK-package (some_package.ipk)? I do not 
 want to install anything - just inspect the package on my Ubuntu-machine.

   man dpkg-deb

 I have been able to extract some packages by using tar -zxvf after 
 renaming the extension to tar.gz - though I cant with all packages (and 
 I dont know why).

   Because they are not supposed to be gzipped tar archives. The ones you
can extract with tar -zxvf are broken.

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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-03-08 Thread Yorick Moko
might be a stupid question,
but any plans on making a transparent large normal keyboard?
btw: it seems great!

y

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:49 PM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Waou, THIS IS GREAT ! I am very happy to find someone with the same will,
 but skilled ! For me, qwo is also the fastest keyboard, and making it
 fullscreen + transparent will make it the killer keyboard. Congratulation
 for sharing your method. I will try it asap.

 Kimaidou

 2009/3/8 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk

 Hello,

 despite some skepticism about having transparent keyboard in illume, I
 decided to try it. After some work, I got it working. More precisely, I
 am using the qwo external keyboard (an implementation of quikwriting
 technique); imho it's great with stylus, and also quite finger-friendly
 when the keyboard is large enough. I think it's quite usable. As for
 speed, displaying/hiding the keyboard is quicker than displaying/hiding
 the default keyboard, since the application window is not resized (which
 is usually quite slow).

 I wrote a small howto about it, it's (together with screenshots) here:
 http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/

 Actually, to get it work, I had to fix some bugs/annoying features of
 Xglamo. I reported these (together with patches) as ticket #2242 and
 #2243 at docs.openmoko.org about one week ago. Unfortunately, I got no
 answer regarding these patches. Would it be possible to accept them to
 the openembedded repository and close the tickets?

 Next, I had to force illume not to resize the running application when
 displaying keyboard, and also not to force the width of the keyboard to
 be equal to the width of the screen. Currently, I have only very ugly
 hack to do this and I am not quite sure how to do it right. I am
 thinking of making illume look for the _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY property
 on external keyboards, and behave in above-described way if this
 property is set. Would this be acceptable for including upstream?

 Greets
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-03-08 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Any way we can get a package for this? I can't compile for my FR.
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-03-08 Thread Richard Kralovic
 but any plans on making a transparent large normal keyboard?
 btw: it seems great!

Actually, it is quite easy to make the default illume keyboard
transparent. It should work with the same method as for qwo, except that
you need to revert the first hunk of e-wm-hack.patch, i.e., illume had
to set the width of keyboard to be equal to the width of the screen.

Afterwards, you can use the transset utility (I just added it to my
webpage) to change the transparency of the keyboard (and also
transparency of any other window). Surely, this is very rough and for
normal usage some decent support in illume would be nice. But I guess
this should be discussed with Raster...

Richard

 
 y
 
 On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:49 PM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Waou, THIS IS GREAT ! I am very happy to find someone with the same will,
 but skilled ! For me, qwo is also the fastest keyboard, and making it
 fullscreen + transparent will make it the killer keyboard. Congratulation
 for sharing your method. I will try it asap.

 Kimaidou

 2009/3/8 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk
 Hello,

 despite some skepticism about having transparent keyboard in illume, I
 decided to try it. After some work, I got it working. More precisely, I
 am using the qwo external keyboard (an implementation of quikwriting
 technique); imho it's great with stylus, and also quite finger-friendly
 when the keyboard is large enough. I think it's quite usable. As for
 speed, displaying/hiding the keyboard is quicker than displaying/hiding
 the default keyboard, since the application window is not resized (which
 is usually quite slow).

 I wrote a small howto about it, it's (together with screenshots) here:
 http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/

 Actually, to get it work, I had to fix some bugs/annoying features of
 Xglamo. I reported these (together with patches) as ticket #2242 and
 #2243 at docs.openmoko.org about one week ago. Unfortunately, I got no
 answer regarding these patches. Would it be possible to accept them to
 the openembedded repository and close the tickets?

 Next, I had to force illume not to resize the running application when
 displaying keyboard, and also not to force the width of the keyboard to
 be equal to the width of the screen. Currently, I have only very ugly
 hack to do this and I am not quite sure how to do it right. I am
 thinking of making illume look for the _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY property
 on external keyboards, and behave in above-described way if this
 property is set. Would this be acceptable for including upstream?

 Greets
Richard

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Re: Bass fix (Was: Pulster fixe(s) and rework)

2009-03-08 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:56:06PM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
 
 Another question - is a single big capacitor enough, if it is put into 
 the ground line  instead of having one cap for each of the stereo 
 channels? Or will that wreck stereo sound? One could then use a even 
 bigger cap.

   I think it won't solve the problem of DC through the speakers. Think of
the case where the left output is at 0 V and the right output is at 3 V.

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Re: [debian] Illume won't show any icons

2009-03-08 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2009/3/8 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann m...@mnet-online.de:
 don't know for debian... we had missing icons because of not installed e-wm-
 utils...

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be e-wm-utils package for Debian.

Anyone else got any ideas?

Regards

Jeff

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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-03-08 Thread Richard Kralovic
 Any way we can get a package for this? I can't compile for my FR.

All binary packages that I have built are available at the howto page:
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/
If you are using FSO milestone 5, they should work. If you are using
different distribution, they _might_ work, but they might break your
system as well, so use on your own risk. I have only a compile
environment set up for FSO, so I can not easily provide other packages
just now...

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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-08 Thread Paul Fertser
Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes:
 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix

 Yes it's a different way to come at it.

 The way I documented you keep the leads short, the components are all in
 the can and the can is unchanged, but you're limited to 22uF or
 maybe 47uF.

Reworked the page, included your fix and description as
well. Thanks!

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[debian/illume] Can't suspend

2009-03-08 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
When I press the power button, I get a group of icons, one of which is
a crescent, which if I press, I get a message saying that it is going
to suspend, but the doesn't.

I'm using the 2.6.28 kernel.

How can I get it to suspend?

Another icon is a padlock. If I press that, the screen is locked, but
I can't get a keyboard up to unlock it.

The close application and shutdown buttons work fine.

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Re: Open IPKG packages from command line

2009-03-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
r...@sygehus.dk wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:10:14AM +0100, Kasper Johansen wrote:
 Hi list.

 Is it possible to extract a IPK-package (some_package.ipk)? I do not
 want to install anything - just inspect the package on my Ubuntu-machine.

   man dpkg-deb

try
ar x file.ipk

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Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline

2009-03-08 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:47:26 -0800 (PST)
mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I've verified the issue on GPS receiver in GTA02:
 
 When dump ALM/EPH messages, in several messages, fields follow SV ID
 field in payload are filled with zeros.

Okay, so what you're saying is that this commit
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad2ec48cdb5ab9bdddc15adfc05cbd2e5b8a2cee
doesn't fix the situation for you?
If that is the case could you please send me the ALM/EPH messages that
you get when the chip crashes so I can take a look at it?

Regards,
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Poky

2009-03-08 Thread xChris

I just tried the Poky [1] on the Freerunner... I like it because its fast,
unfortunately a lot of things are missing (phone, battery management, etc)

Is it possible to install packages from the opkg (for example), or run
paroli on Poky?



rgrds

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Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells

2009-03-08 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:12:50 +0100
Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote:

 So the problem is in FSO?
 Why then I get neighbouring cells in zhone and not in Cellhunter?
 That kinda excludes problem in framework.

No, frameworkd is the problem in that case. Zhone uses the DBus API to
get neighbouring cells while cellhunter prior to that patch used the
debug interface to send a special AT command to the modem (which is
what the neighbouring cell DBus API does anyway).

It seems that the new-timeout branch has somehow make the debug
commands useless, we'll need to investigate that.

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Re: Flashing GSM firmware

2009-03-08 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:25:40AM +0300, Paul Fertser wrote:
 
 All this steps except starting fluid.exe are not strictly necessary
 and i'd recommend to start fluid like that: 
 
 FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -od13,13 -f path_to_moko11_bin
 
 Notice i use ROM bootloader and moko11 firmware.

   I flashed the moko11 GSM firmware today and found the same thing: -oo
without FLUID_FLOWCONTROL works. I couldn't not get any of the other
combinations to work. I first backed up the old firmware, then flashed the
new one:

# time FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -r 0x..0x0040 -f 
~rask/download/firmware/calypso-firmware-backup.m0
(real   6m28.286s   user0m11.200s   sys 0m4.315s)

# time FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -f 
~rask/download/firmware/calypso-moko11.m0
(real   2m56.764s   user0m16.070s   sys 0m0.990s)

   I did need two power off/on cycles between the two fluid invocations,
though. I did not use s3c24xx-gpio b7=0 as according to the schematics,
pin GPIOB7 is just the MODEM_ON signal.

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Re: Open IPKG packages from command line

2009-03-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
 I have been able to extract some packages by using tar -zxvf after 
 renaming the extension to tar.gz - though I cant with all packages (and 
 I dont know why).

Try it with `file': it will usually tell you what kind of file you're
looking at.  `ipkg' packages have used various formats over time, the
ones I remember are .tar.gz and ar.  In bith cases, the content is a few
meta files plus a .tar.gz (so you stupidly get double compression if the
outer wrapper is .tar.gz).


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Re: Newbie questions

2009-03-08 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/3/9 Mile Davidovic david.moko.comun...@gmail.com:
 As I am new in this please help me with following:
 On http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions page I have read a lot of
 info regarding various distro (OM 2008.12, FSO, FDOM, QtExt, Android ...).
   If I want to use GTA02 as every day phone which distro I should chose?
   According to table on same page Qt Extended is most mature, but I do not
 see any information about OM 2008.12?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions#Om_series

qt ext is very stable and usable, but because it uses framebuffer, not
x11, there are limited applications that can run on it, unless you use
the extremely bodgy x11 hack

i was quite pleased with 2008.8, but .12 has been a complete pita

for a simple stable phone, i'd start with qt ext and then give shr a go

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Re: Newbie questions

2009-03-08 Thread Dale Maggee
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