Current GSM firmware version can't make reflashing harder (was: Re: [QTE 4.4.3] Determining which version of GSM firmware I have.)

2009-03-11 Thread Paul Fertser
W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au writes:
 It did for me - absolutely refused to upgrade in every way I tried until
 I downgraded (as per the wiki page) and then the upgrade worked fine.
 This happened with moko10 and trying to upgrade to moko11 - yes doesnt
 make sense,

I flashed between moko11 and moko10 numerous times. If you really used
the recommended way (ROM bootloader, no flow control), then i see no
reasonable way (except magic) how a particular firmware version can
cause problems for reflashing.

Moreover, if you were able to downgrade, you could have upgraded just
as well.

So, to me both the wiki report as well as your words look like the
result of some misunderstanding, not as a description of an existing
issue.

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Could you please clarify your opinion on BT audio issues on GTA01

2009-03-11 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi,

In the message[1] you say that bluetooth audio on the gta01 will
never work, even with that bluetooth alsa state.

Could you please explain what exactly did you mean and what is the
actual problem? Were you talking about A2DP or SCO? If SCO, was it SCO
over PCM or HCI? If A2DP, what is the difference between gta01 and
gta02 in this regard, should it work correctly on gta02 in your
opinion?

TIA

[1] http://markmail.org/message/dlti2ldnhcsskw23

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Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?

2009-03-11 Thread kimaidou
Hi

Thanks very much for sharing your tool !
I am using SHR + Illume, and I would like to make the illume keyboard appear
when short clicking on AUX. So I went to the Illume configuration -- Input
-- Key Bindings, and added the command /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show
on the Aux press.
This works well, but I cannot use the same Aux button to hide the keyboard.
The best for that would be that your script first test wether the keyboard
is displayed or not, and display / hide it depending on the display
status. Do you think it is possible ?

Thanks again.
Kimaidou

2009/3/11 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net

 kimaidou wrote:
  I am running SHR testing, and I am trying to display the keyboard with a
  very short press on AUX (like under Hackable:1). To map the keys, I use
  illume configuration : Input  Key binding. I have not found with google
  and wiki search how to display the keyboard, such as when clicking on
  the icon qwerty.

 The illume keyboard supports the matchbox protocol that works over x11
 xevents, that's why I've written this small c program [1] that basically
 sends the _MB_IM_INVOKER_COMMAND x-atom that can control the illume
 (and matchbox) keyboard.

 You can try this binary too, simply run illume-kbd-show to show the
 keyboard it and illume-kbd-show -k to hide it.

 Using that code as base we could also use the ecore_x keyboard atoms
 (_E_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD*) to select the keyboard to be used and so on...


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 [2] http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/illume-kbd-show

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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-03-11 Thread Helge Hafting
Johny Tenfinger wrote:
 Now in shr-unstable patch for composite is included by default. I'm
 going to include second patch (for ts) later.

Which package would that be?

The unstable repository has this package
http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r3_armv4t.ipk
But it is dated jan 22. and is the same version as the package in shr 
testing.

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Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline

2009-03-11 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:18:23 +0100
Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:

 I do not get 7s every time. This was an ideal test, I was standing in
 a place with good visibility. the gps used 9 or so satellites. Then I 
 stopped tangogps and restarted it, and timed it from the moment the 
 tangogps screen showed. (So as to not include the startup time for 
 tangogps itself). The TTFF is usually a little longer inside a bus or 
 building.

Okay, this still sounds really promising and matches my experience.
Even when riding my bike I now usually get a fix within the first
minute, mostly within 30 seconds. Before uploading ephemeris this often
took several minutes (sometimes it wouldn't get a fix until I stood
still for 20 seconds even after riding around for ~10 minutes).

  so the chip knows which SVs to search for. So a pacc of 3km or 9km
  shouldn't have any noticable effect. This is just guesswork though,
  so any results on your part would be greatly appreciated.
 
 It was just to be safe. The documentation states that you might not
 get a fix _at all_ if either position or time is outside the claimed 
 accuracy. Now, maybe it works with 3km anyway after the fixes that 
 prevents the chip-crashing exception. I happen to live about 6km away 
 from where I work, so 9km was a nice safe value. The default is
 300km, and 100km allows a more optimistic startup. Perhaps such
 rough estimates is all that is needed, if it is only used to figure
 which satellites that can be seen.

If you don't mind testing please try changing pacc to 100km and see if
it affects TTFF adversely in your case. If not we could just use that
as a default.


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[debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies

2009-03-11 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
   When installing opk/ipk packages from e.g. http://www.opkg.org/, there
will be problems with unmet dependencies because Debian uses other
package names for some of the packages providing the dependencies. I've
created a few small packages which create a mapping of the package names so
tricks like --force-depends/--ignore-depends should not be necessary. See:

http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/

   It works as a repository too if you run this as root:

# echo 'deb http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/ /' 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ril-oedepmappings.list

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Re: [QTE 4.4.3] Determining which version of GSM firmware I have.

2009-03-11 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di  10. März 2009 schrieb Friedrich Clausen:
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Friedrich Clausen f...@derf.nl wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote:
  On Tuesday 10 March 2009, Friedrich Clausen wrote:
 
  Thanks Florian and Filip for your replies, I will check this shortly.
 
  According to the Changelog below the GTA02A5 and GTA02A6 ship with the 
moko8
  firmware, so unless you've flashed it you're going to have that (or 
earlier if
  it's an earlier HW rev).
 
  
http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/all_version__CHANGELOG.txt
 
  Ah, I am running Moko9-beta1 it seems. 

I don't see any chance MOKO9b1 is shipped with any of the FR devices.


  I will update to Moko11 when I 
  get a chance.
 
 On the previously mentioned GSM flashing page it says
 
  Also PLEASE DON 'T USE moko9beta1, as there is at least one report on 
reflashing to
  another FW gets difficult from moko9b1.

Nevermind this comment.
Flashing GSM-FW back and forth never failed on a single case we seen so far, 
for all versions from MOKO8 to MOKO11

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Re: [archlinux] Port to the ARM.

2009-03-11 Thread Will Siddall
I'll second that, if there's something that I can test, let me know.
I can help put together PKGBUILDs or test different builds.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, The Digital Pioneer
digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm a hardcore Arch fan, and I'd love to pitch in if possible. I can compile
 packages, if you can provide PKGBUILDs and a working toolchain, the one on
 the wiki doesn't work for me.

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Re: Could you please clarify your opinion on BT audio issues on GTA01

2009-03-11 Thread Daniel Willmann


On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:36:35 +0300
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 In the message[1] you say that bluetooth audio on the gta01 will
 never work, even with that bluetooth alsa state.
 
 Could you please explain what exactly did you mean and what is the
 actual problem? Were you talking about A2DP or SCO? If SCO, was it SCO
 over PCM or HCI? If A2DP, what is the difference between gta01 and
 gta02 in this regard, should it work correctly on gta02 in your
 opinion?

Jan Lübbe has recently made a phone call with a bluetooth headset on
GTA02 and I got A2DP working (though mono) on my GTA01 a while back.
A2DP should just work since you are not going through the Wolfson chip
in any way.
Phone calls via headset is another story and I can't answer that for
GTA01, but I think we didn't change anything in that area from GTA01 to
GTA02.


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Venetia 0.1.0

2009-03-11 Thread Michele Renda
On 09/03/2009 20:57, Stefan Monnier wrote:
 Which Phone (and/or SMS) application do you use under Debian?
 Until now I've used Zhone, but now that the whole phone subsystem works
 more reliably, Zhone has become the main source of problems.  Also it
 has various annoying limitations.


Hello

You can try Venetia.

What is Venetia

Venetia is a PyGtk program that use FSO framework to make call. It was 
written because I would like to make call with my deb...@fr but I don't 
want to keep open an application.
It is still incomplete. I am counting to release in a few days another 
package (Xfce4VenetiaPlugin) that permit to have an applet showing the 
signal level and keeping the dialer activated but insivible.

What is not Venetia

It don't want to be a finger friendly application (Sorry, but I you can 
try to use it with your fingers)
It don't want to manage SMS. I would prefer to write another application 
(may be with another XFCE applet) to receive and send sms (little 
applications that do well their job)
It don't want to enter on OM200X.X (You have already a great 
application, why to use Venetia?)
It is only an interface. If your sim is not running with Zhone, don't 
hope it can run with Venetia. Them are only an interface to FSO Frameworkd.

What is not yet complete / Known problems:

1) It don't start if the sim is not present. It is a very stupid issue, 
I will fix as soon as possible
2) It take too much time to start up. It is fault of synchronous call. I 
have to make it asynchronous.
3) It not show the history. Ehmm... I have still to implement, but first 
I want to finish other things
4)  (complete you here)

It is available at these addresses:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Venetia/venetia_0.1.0-1_all.deb
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Venetia/venetia_0.1.0-1.tar.gz
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Venetia/venetia_0.1.0-1.dsc

It ask as dependecies:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/PyFso/lib-pyfso-gobject_0.0.1-1_all.deb
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/PyFso/lib-pyfso-gobject.tar.gz
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/PyFso/lib-pyfso-gobject_0.0.1-1.dsc

Like usally, please report any problem, suggestion, curiosity, etc. etc.

Regards
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Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?

2009-03-11 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
kimaidou wrote:
 Thanks very much for sharing your tool !
 I am using SHR + Illume, and I would like to make the illume keyboard
 appear when short clicking on AUX. So I went to the Illume configuration
 -- Input -- Key Bindings, and added the command
 /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show on the Aux press.

Yes, I did that too.

 This works well, but I cannot use the same Aux button to hide the
 keyboard. The best for that would be that your script first test wether
 the keyboard is displayed or not, and display / hide it depending on the
 display status. Do you think it is possible ?

Really? I don't know if you're using the latest binary (or if I've
uploaded the correct one :P), but it sends by default the toggle
command; using that the keyboard shows when it's hidden and hides when
it's shown... It works well to me.
You can try it from ssh too.

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Re: Could you please clarify your opinion on BT audio issues on GTA01

2009-03-11 Thread Paul Fertser
Daniel Willmann dan...@openmoko.org writes:
 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:
 In the message[1] you say that bluetooth audio on the gta01 will
 never work, even with that bluetooth alsa state.
 
 Could you please explain what exactly did you mean and what is the
 actual problem? Were you talking about A2DP or SCO? If SCO, was it SCO
 over PCM or HCI? If A2DP, what is the difference between gta01 and
 gta02 in this regard, should it work correctly on gta02 in your
 opinion?

 Jan Lübbe has recently made a phone call with a bluetooth headset on
 GTA02 and I got A2DP working (though mono) on my GTA01 a while back.
 A2DP should just work since you are not going through the Wolfson chip
 in any way.
 Phone calls via headset is another story and I can't answer that for
 GTA01, but I think we didn't change anything in that area from GTA01 to
 GTA02.

Yes, to the best of my knowledge, there were no changes wrt SCO PCM
between GTA01 and GTA02. The same with USB HCI interface. That's why i
was very surprised to see that message from Lorn.

Still it looks like asoc driver for GTA01 will need to be backported
from GTA02, but it's a matter of software, so it can be made to work.

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[Debian] read GPS logger i-blue 747 on freerunner over USB

2009-03-11 Thread Carsten Gerlach
Hello everybody,

next week i want to go skiing and track the piste for Openstreetmap. But I 
don't want to use the Freerunner for that but the i-blue 747 from Transystem. 
I want to use the Freerunner only as storage device for the log files.

So, I have installed mtkbabel for reading the logger.
The kernel has the right module for this chipset, cp2101, wich I can load with 
modprobe cp2101.

I know, that i have to set the Freerunner to USB host mode. I used the 
openmoko-panel to switch to USB host mode.

My problem now is, the Freerunner doesn't record, that I connect the i-blue to 
it.

On my Ubuntu desktop PC i get the following messages:

cars...@laptop:~$ dmesg
[ 2665.368067] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[ 2665.550347] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 2665.677846] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
[ 2665.678744] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for generic
[ 2665.679423] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
[ 2665.679428] usbserial: USB Serial Driver core
[ 2665.699452] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for cp2101
[ 2665.700338] cp2101 2-1:1.0: cp2101 converter detected
[ 2665.812054] usb 2-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 
2
[ 2665.959323] usb 2-1: cp2101 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[ 2665.960230] usbcore: registered new interface driver cp2101
[ 2665.960236] cp2101: Silicon Labs CP2101/CP2102 RS232 serial adaptor driver 
v0.07


But on the Freerunner I don't get any new message, wenn I put the i-blue to 
the USB slot.

My question now is, what do I have to install or configure, to get a 
connection between the Freerunner and the i-blue? I would be glad for any hint 
in the right direction.

Thank you.

Greetings, Carsten


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Re: [Debian] read GPS logger i-blue 747 on freerunner over USB

2009-03-11 Thread Ed Kapitein
Just for trouble shooting purposes:
What happens if you connect an USB stick?

Kind regards,
Ed

Carsten Gerlach wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 next week i want to go skiing and track the piste for Openstreetmap. But I 
 don't want to use the Freerunner for that but the i-blue 747 from Transystem. 
 I want to use the Freerunner only as storage device for the log files.

 So, I have installed mtkbabel for reading the logger.
 The kernel has the right module for this chipset, cp2101, wich I can load 
 with 
 modprobe cp2101.

 I know, that i have to set the Freerunner to USB host mode. I used the 
 openmoko-panel to switch to USB host mode.

 My problem now is, the Freerunner doesn't record, that I connect the i-blue 
 to 
 it.

 On my Ubuntu desktop PC i get the following messages:

 cars...@laptop:~$ dmesg
 [ 2665.368067] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
 [ 2665.550347] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
 [ 2665.677846] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
 [ 2665.678744] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for generic
 [ 2665.679423] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
 [ 2665.679428] usbserial: USB Serial Driver core
 [ 2665.699452] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for cp2101
 [ 2665.700338] cp2101 2-1:1.0: cp2101 converter detected
 [ 2665.812054] usb 2-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and 
 address 
 2
 [ 2665.959323] usb 2-1: cp2101 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
 [ 2665.960230] usbcore: registered new interface driver cp2101
 [ 2665.960236] cp2101: Silicon Labs CP2101/CP2102 RS232 serial adaptor driver 
 v0.07


 But on the Freerunner I don't get any new message, wenn I put the i-blue to 
 the USB slot.

 My question now is, what do I have to install or configure, to get a 
 connection between the Freerunner and the i-blue? I would be glad for any 
 hint 
 in the right direction.

 Thank you.

 Greetings, Carsten


   
 

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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-03-11 Thread Johny Tenfinger
It is in git repo for 2 days and it would be in repo after rebuilding
(I'll ask mrmoku for doing that in few seconds :P)

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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-03-11 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Mittwoch 11 März 2009 19:07:25 schrieb Johny Tenfinger:
 It is in git repo for 2 days and it would be in repo after rebuilding
 (I'll ask mrmoku for doing that in few seconds :P)

well... rebuild finished this morning :P

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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies

2009-03-11 Thread Davide Scaini
Nice it would be grat in future if we (debian users) could just add opkg
repos as deb ones...  maybe with different priority... it may be difficult
and risky, but indeed useful!
d

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
r...@sygehus.dkwrote:

   When installing opk/ipk packages from e.g. http://www.opkg.org/, there
 will be problems with unmet dependencies because Debian uses other
 package names for some of the packages providing the dependencies. I've
 created a few small packages which create a mapping of the package names so
 tricks like --force-depends/--ignore-depends should not be necessary. See:

 http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/

   It works as a repository too if you run this as root:

 # echo 'deb
 http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/ /'
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Re: Could you please clarify your opinion on BT audio issues on GTA01

2009-03-11 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hallo Paul,

* Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com [11-03-09 19:36]:
 Still it looks like asoc driver for GTA01 will need to be backported
 from GTA02, but it's a matter of software, so it can be made to work.
This?
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=c1b03e4da22e8dd7a6caccb9e39a9201535ced11



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Re: Could you please clarify your opinion on BT audio issues on GTA01

2009-03-11 Thread Paul Fertser
Tim Niemeyer tim.nieme...@mastersword.de writes:
 Hallo Paul,
 * Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com [11-03-09 19:36]:
 Still it looks like asoc driver for GTA01 will need to be backported
 from GTA02, but it's a matter of software, so it can be made to work.
 This?
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=c1b03e4da22e8dd7a6caccb9e39a9201535ced11

It is a good move towards that indeed, thanks for that! :) Still i'm
afraid some other strange stuff left in the GTA01 driver like moko
mode etc. In fact, i see no reason for the drivers to differ
much. Another problem is that we still don't have a good way to
generate statefiles, which is needed for any sane audio work
(especially after some driver changes) :)

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[debian] State of SHR packaging?

2009-03-11 Thread Staley, Daniel L
Hi all,

I know a while back there was some talk of creating debian packages for the SHR 
apps (namely I'm looking for the phone apps like 'dialer', etc).
Since they both can run the FSO M5 backend, it seems that it shouldn't be 
unheard of to extend the great work being forged by the SHR community to the 
debian world.
Ideally I'd like to use debian + e17 + the SHR phone apps on my freerunner...

Has there been any progress on this?  If not, is there some way I can help?

Thanks,
-Dan Staley

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Re: [archlinux] Port to the ARM.

2009-03-11 Thread hiciu
That's nice to hear. I wrote down instructions: how to prepare
toolchain, buildroot and how to build packages on wiki
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Hiciu). There is prebuild working
version of toolchain (and instructions how to build it, but no
PKGBUILD for toolchain yet) on this wiki too.
Feel free to test them. If these instructions would work for you then
I think we should meet on IRC to talk (where to keep packages / set up
repositories, what we wan't to do: Archlinux for ARM or Archlinux for
Freerunner ;], maybe let know about it on Arch forums
(http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=59638), what about posting
this howto on ArchWiki and other).

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-11 Thread Radek Polak

On Monday 09 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:


I think Lorn is not ready yet. I managed to setup one myself.


OK - I'll send the echo cancellation patch to the list now as applied to your 
4.4.3 repository (I've created a local branch called chris for now).  The 
4.4.2 patch applied with no changes and no fuzz.


cheers,
Chris


Hi HouYu and Chris,
i am using QTE from your git repo. For me the echo cancellation patch
does work just for outgoing calls. If someone calls me, he has still
echo.

I think that the AT%N0187 is not sent before incoming call. The patch
adds it to many places, but the only right place IMO is before outgoing
and incoming call.

The outgoing is ok - it's function dialVoiceCommand(). The incoming -
i am not sure yet which function is the right place.

As first experiment i have put it in abortDial() function. Now if i
hang up (abort) dialing the AT%N0187 is sent and next incoming call is
without echo. I can even suspend my phone and the AT%N0187 effect
remains.

I am attaching my patch. My next step is to find a function that is
called before incoming call and send AT%N0187 there.

Radek
diff --git a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
index d27b4eb..22c0b1b 100644
--- a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
+++ b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
@@ -64,6 +64,8 @@ void NeoCallProvider::abortDial( uint id, QPhoneCall::Scope scope )
 
 // Use default behaviour of CR followed by AT+CHLD - seems to work better.
 QModemCallProvider::abortDial( id, scope );
+
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 );
 }
 
 void NeoCallProvider::cpiNotification( const QString msg )
@@ -153,8 +155,7 @@ QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const QDialOptions options) const
 // do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction
 
 modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( a...@st=\-26\ );
-modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N028B );
-modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0125 );
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 );
 return QModemCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(options);
 }
 
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Selling Neo Freerunner San Francisco

2009-03-11 Thread Matt Margush
I'm selling my Neo Freerunner in the San Francisco area for $250 obo.  If
interested, please email.
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FreeRunner crashes after 10 minutes using GPS

2009-03-11 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Dear list,

My FreeRunner (running Om2008.9) freezes after about 10 minutes using the GPS 
from my Java application. I think it's the same issue discussed below. I have 
searched the tickets but didnt find a reference to this among the 2200 tickets.

User Trevino recommends replacing xglamo with xfbdev. How do I do it?

Any ideas?

Regards,
Juan Lucas

=

Vimal Joseph ha scritto:
 Hi,
 
 I'v posted a problem of frequent freezing of Neo Freerunner.
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/000926.html
 
 It turned out that the problem is with the gps. As the system freezes
 after some time whenever i turnd the gps on. The problem was not there
 with the qtopia image may be because the driver for gps is not there
 in qtopia (I'm not very sure about this).
 
 I'v just installed the 2008.8 image and the phone freezes whenever i
 turned the gps on. With in few seconds the screen freezes and nothing
 works till i remove the battery.
 
 Is any one having same symptoms? What can be the problem?

Last time I've used Xglamo based distros I had this too. As I said in 
the other thread, imho the problem is only due to Glamo and/or Xglamo 
since using Xfbdev workarounds it (remove xglamo and install xfbdev 
instead, no more freezes!).

This is supported also by the freezing errors you reported (and that I 
got too).
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Re: FreeRunner crashes after 10 minutes using GPS

2009-03-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es writes:
 My FreeRunner (running Om2008.9) freezes after about 10 minutes
 using the GPS from my Java application. I think it's the same issue
 discussed below. I have searched the tickets but didnt find a
 reference to this among the 2200 tickets.

GPS should totally have nothing to do with X. Does the system respond
to ping? Does the problem occur if you don't run X? Does the problem
occur if you run X but have switched to first virtual console?

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-11 Thread HouYu Li
OK. I will try it later.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:

 On Monday 09 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

  I think Lorn is not ready yet. I managed to setup one myself.


 OK - I'll send the echo cancellation patch to the list now as applied to
 your 4.4.3 repository (I've created a local branch called chris for now).
  The 4.4.2 patch applied with no changes and no fuzz.

 cheers,
 Chris


 Hi HouYu and Chris,
 i am using QTE from your git repo. For me the echo cancellation patch
 does work just for outgoing calls. If someone calls me, he has still
 echo.

 I think that the AT%N0187 is not sent before incoming call. The patch
 adds it to many places, but the only right place IMO is before outgoing
 and incoming call.

 The outgoing is ok - it's function dialVoiceCommand(). The incoming -
 i am not sure yet which function is the right place.

 As first experiment i have put it in abortDial() function. Now if i
 hang up (abort) dialing the AT%N0187 is sent and next incoming call is
 without echo. I can even suspend my phone and the AT%N0187 effect
 remains.

 I am attaching my patch. My next step is to find a function that is
 called before incoming call and send AT%N0187 there.

 Radek

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Re: [QtExtended] about bug reports

2009-03-11 Thread HouYu Li
Anyway. Trac is onlinehehe..

http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:24 AM, HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bugzilla or Trac or anything else?? which do you prefer



 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.comwrote:

 Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
  Considering that QtE is officially dead, what shall we do about bugs
  in the current (last) code?

 What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the Master calls the
 butterfly.


  shall we start a separate bug tracker in addition to the community git
  repo?

 yep.

  shall we report back to nokia using the usual tracker?

 Nope.

  should we
  just send patches to the git repo (until a solution is found)?
  It would be nice if we (the community) join efforts to keep QtE alive as
  long as possible.

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Re: [archlinux] Port to the ARM.

2009-03-11 Thread Daniel.Li
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 22:32 +0100, hiciu wrote:
 That's nice to hear. I wrote down instructions: how to prepare
 toolchain, buildroot and how to build packages on wiki
 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Hiciu). There is prebuild working
 version of toolchain (and instructions how to build it, but no
 PKGBUILD for toolchain yet) on this wiki too.

Sorry, I didn't have enough time to browse detail of ur web pages.
But i noticed that it uses buildroot, right?

Cause I'm currently use buildroot to other platform, and OE seems rather
difficult for me. And it takes so much time, I'm still
compiling... :(

 Feel free to test them. If these instructions would work for you then
 I think we should meet on IRC to talk (where to keep packages / set up
 repositories, what we wan't to do: Archlinux for ARM or Archlinux for
 Freerunner ;], maybe let know about it on Arch forums
 (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=59638), what about posting
 this howto on ArchWiki and other).
 
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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies

2009-03-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Rask == Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes:

When installing opk/ipk packages from e.g. http://www.opkg.org/, there
 will be problems with unmet dependencies because Debian uses other
 package names for some of the packages providing the dependencies. I've
 created a few small packages which create a mapping of the package names so
 tricks like --force-depends/--ignore-depends should not be necessary. See:

 http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/

It works as a repository too if you run this as root:

 # echo 'deb http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/ 
 /' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ril-oedepmappings.list

You might want to add a note about it to
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner (or maybe
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian).


Stefan


PS: I wish those two pages were merged into one.


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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-11 Thread Al Johnson
I can see the patch setting %N0187 when making a call, waking, initialising 
etc. but not when answering a call. It seems like it needs adding there too to 
fix this for some people. AFAIK we never did find out why the echo/nr settings 
are persistent for some people and not for others. 

On Tuesday 10 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:
 Just had a test, when someone call my freerunner, he or she still can hear
 the echo. but when calling someone from my freerunner, no echo.

 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote:
  On Tuesday 10 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:
   The binary with your echo suppression patch is now available at
   http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/http://dash
  i-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/.
 
  build
 
   20090310.
 
  Wow, that's fast work!  Thanks!
 
  Have you tried the 4.4.3 version out yet ?
 
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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies

2009-03-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
 When installing opk/ipk packages from e.g. http://www.opkg.org/, there
 will be problems with unmet dependencies because Debian uses other
 package names for some of the packages providing the dependencies. I've
 created a few small packages which create a mapping of the package names so
 tricks like --force-depends/--ignore-depends should not be necessary. See:

 http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/

 It works as a repository too if you run this as root:

 # echo 'deb http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/ 
 /' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ril-oedepmappings.list

 You might want to add a note about it to
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner (or maybe
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian).

Also, it would probably be preferable for those packages to have a name
that makes it clear that they're not real.  E.g. you might call them
something like adapter-opkg-foo, and then have them provide the
required feature.


Stefan


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Re: [archlinux] Port to the ARM.

2009-03-11 Thread The Digital Pioneer
OK, I'm having a bit of trouble getting the environment going. As per your
instructions on the wiki, I have gotten to the sb2-init step, but it gives
me this:

Finished writing sb2.config
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for gcc... gcc
configure: WARNING: In the future, Autoconf will not detect cross-tools
whose name does not start with the host triplet.  If you think this
configuration is useful to you, please write to autoc...@gnu.org.
checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C
compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.
Messages from sb2:
2009-03-11 21:11:58.473 (ERROR) sh[8934]Unidentified executable
detected
(/usr/gcc-armv4t-unknown-linux-gnueabi/bin/armv4t-unknown-linux-gnueabi-gcc)
2009-03-11 21:11:58.484 (ERROR) sh[8938]Unidentified executable
detected
(/usr/gcc-armv4t-unknown-linux-gnueabi/bin/armv4t-unknown-linux-gnueabi-gcc)
2009-03-11 21:11:58.491 (ERROR) sh[8942]Unidentified executable
detected
(/usr/gcc-armv4t-unknown-linux-gnueabi/bin/armv4t-unknown-linux-gnueabi-gcc)
2009-03-11 21:11:58.541 (ERROR) sh[8953]Unidentified executable
detected
(/usr/gcc-armv4t-unknown-linux-gnueabi/bin/armv4t-unknown-linux-gnueabi-gcc)


sb2-init completed successfully, have fun!


Maybe I'm just weird, but that doesn't look very successful to me. :P
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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 11 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 Just had a test, when someone call my freerunner, he or she still can hear
 the echo. but when calling someone from my freerunner, no echo.

That's weird, as on QtE 4.4.2 I've had no reports of that when people are 
calling me.

I couldn't figure out where to insert that AT command when a call was 
received, so the best I could do was put it in when unsuspending as 99% of the 
time my FR is suspended when someone calls.

I'm not working today so I might get a chance this afternoon to take a look at 
the code in 4.4.3 and see if I can figure out if there is anything called when 
a call comes in (there must be, but I can't see it for looking).

cheers!
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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Al Johnson wrote:

 I can see the patch setting %N0187 when making a call, waking, initialising
 etc. but not when answering a call.

Yup, I agree, I just can't find anything in the OpenMoko library that gets 
called at that point where I can insert it!

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote:

 The outgoing is ok - it's function dialVoiceCommand(). The incoming -
 i am not sure yet which function is the right place.

Yeah, that's just the problem I was having with the 4.4.2 version!

I guess now that we've got control of the code there might be the opportunity 
to put in a callback in the main body of the code to the OpenMoko specific 
library rather than relying on the existing callbacks.

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Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote:

 I think you might have to edit $QPEDIR/etc/mime.types and/or the
 MediaPlayer desktop file to add ogg to the files the mediaplayer can
 recognize. Then run make install again.

Aha, the desktop file for mediaplayer lists audio/ogg+vorbis for .ogg files 
but not audio/ogg which is defined for .oga files in the mime.types.

I'll send a patch for that to the list in a second.

Radagast, what are the characteristics (file name, mime-type) of the file that 
you are trying to play ?

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Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote:

 I think you might have to edit $QPEDIR/etc/mime.types and/or the
 MediaPlayer desktop file to add ogg to the files the mediaplayer can
 recognize. Then run make install again.

I also notice that the tremor Ogg plugin has this:

OggPlugin::OggPlugin():
d(new OggPluginPrivate)
{
d-mimeTypes  audio/ogg+vorbis;
d-fileExtensions  ogg;
}

Not being a C++ geek I am not sure how that would need to change to make it 
register itself for audio/ogg and .oga files - any clues ?

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[PATCH] Add audio/ogg support to MediaPlayer

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
The desktop file for MediaPlayer lists audio/ogg+vorbis for .ogg files
but not audio/ogg which is defined for .oga files in mime.types.

Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org
---
 src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop |2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop 
b/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop
index 76a358c..c145213 100644
--- a/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop
+++ b/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ Exec=mediaplayer
 Type=Application
 Name[]=Media Player
 Icon=mediaplayer/VideoPlayer
-MimeType=audio/x-wav;audio/mpeg;audio/mpeg3;audio/mp3;audio/x-mp3;audio/mpegurl;audio/x-scpls;audio/amr;audio/mp4;audio/midi;video/3gpp;audio/3gpp;video/mp4;audio/ogg+vorbis;video/x-ms-wmv
+MimeType=audio/x-wav;audio/mpeg;audio/mpeg3;audio/mp3;audio/x-mp3;audio/mpegurl;audio/x-scpls;audio/amr;audio/mp4;audio/midi;video/3gpp;audio/3gpp;video/mp4;audio/ogg+vorbis;audio/ogg;video/x-ms-wmv
 
MimeTypeIcons=mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer
 [Translation]
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[QTExtended] Qt Extended is still going

2009-03-11 Thread HouYu Li
The community just want to make Qt Extended moving forward. Now everything
is there.

*Unofficial Qt Extended release 4.4.3 binary*
http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/

*Unofficial git repository*
git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git for git
http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git for web access
*Bugs, Patches and Ideas*
Go to http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved
Register a user for submit bugs, patches and ideas.

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Re: [QTExtended] Qt Extended is still going

2009-03-11 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
HouYu Li escribió:
 The community just want to make Qt Extended moving forward. Now 
 everything is there.

 *Unofficial Qt Extended release 4.4.3 binary*
 http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ 
 http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/

 *Unofficial git repository*
 git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git for git
 http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git for web access

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 Go to http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved
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This is great! as soon as I get my neo back (it's on soldering 
nowbuzz fix), I will install 4.4.3 and report back whatever I find.
Thanks for all the work needed to setup a place for the community to start!

Tom

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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Chris Samuel wrote:

 I couldn't figure out where to insert that AT command when a call was
 received

I've just sent a patch to the list that inserts those AT commands when we 
process a CNAP message from the network, which is hopefully an incoming call.

Completely untested!

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[PATCH] Add echo/noise reduction to processing of CNAP messages

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
This patch adds the AT commands to set up noise/echo reduction upon
receiving a CNAP message from the network which is (hopefully) the
notification of an incoming call.

Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org
---
 .../src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp|6 ++
 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp 
b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
index 35f7a0b..093ff18 100644
--- a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
+++ b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
@@ -144,6 +144,12 @@ void NeoCallProvider::cnapNotification( const QString msg 
)
 QAtUtils::skipField( msg, posn );  // name_length
 QString name = QAtUtils::nextString( msg, posn );
 QModemCall *call = incomingCall();
+
+// do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction
+
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( a...@st=\-26\ );
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 );
+
 if ( call )
 call-emitNotification( QPhoneCall::CallingName, name );
 }
-- 
1.5.6.3


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Re: Troubles with opkg.org repo

2009-03-11 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:05:10 +0100
Thomas Zimmermann zimmerm...@vdm-design.de wrote:

 Additionally there are a lot of Packages that don't contain a control
 file with depencies and so on:
 
 Form the packages in debian format are these:
 
 0_tshark_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk
 0_wireshark-common_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk  
 1_wireshark_1.0.99+svnr26030_armv4t.ipk 

 
 So if the authors of these packages can update them that would be
 great.

I contributed those three - sorry, I hadn't noticed they were in your
list. Strange, I downloaded the files from opkg.org and they are
significantly smaller than the originals I uploaded.  They contain the
beginnings of the correct data, specifically debian-binary and the
start of data.tar.gz, but are truncated.  The tshark package, eg, is
supposed to be 106606 bytes, but the download from opkg.org is only
65536 bytes.  In fact, all three are truncated to powers of two as well
- multiples of 4096 bytes...

I'll try resubmitting them yet again, though not until tomorrow.  (I'm
off to bed)  Clearly the files are getting broken at some point in the
process, I'll try to rule out upload.

j

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