Re: date and GPS related questions
Hi Fernando, On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 22:19 +0100, Fernando Martins wrote: Hi, 1) I got the date reset to 1970 a few times. I was not paying attention but I guess this happens when battery is removed, i.e., there's no battery specific for the clock? 2) Several posts mentioned that GPS could only get the fix if date was correct, the requirements being within 1 sec precision. However, with the date/time completely messed up, GPS is getting the fix anyway (and it's fairly fast, 1 min or so). So, what's up? I'm using SHR unstable from January. Is the GPS driver (?) being to ignore dates before FR production, or something else? There is no need for the clock to be correct to get a fix, however if you want to use AGPS, the time has to be accurate in order to know where the satelites are a what time. I hope the other questions are answwered by someone else... ;-) 3) While using tangoGPS and I enter a building, when I come out, a fix is not gotten until I reboot FR. Is this a known issue? any quicker workaround than rebooting? 4) How can I avoid going into suspend mode? (alternatively, are Power Mng settings working in recent SHR testing?) Regards and TIA, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
Oups, sorry I just had not thought there was some help ! Thanks a lot, it works well. I think you should package it into an simple ipk file, and put it on opkg.org, so that everybody can enjoy it ! Anyway thanks a lot Kimaidou 2009/3/13 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:17:13 +0100 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Hum, I tried again, and from SSH too, but the command /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show does not hide the keyboard if it is here. Could you send by email the binary you are using ? (if possible) NB: I am using this file : http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/illume-kbd-show Thanks Kimaidou --help gives some hints... ;) Try illume-kbd-show -t (for 'toggle') j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IRC conversation with Mirko from the Paroli team
2009/3/13 Eldon Koyle eko...@gmail.com: contributors). They have goals they are trying to accomplish -- like finally getting a usable software stack for a phone. They also have to make money somewhere. i think you got those the wrong way round If by saving the effort of communicating with everyone who thinks it should be their business is allowing them to spend more time making a usable set of applications, more power to them. They are still giving you the source, and if you don't like something I'm sure patches are quite welcome. true, but they can't have it both ways. if they say, 'we want input from the community' on something or other, the likelihood of disagreement/flames/arguments etc. goes up. then they either can ignore them, which isn't great when they're asking people for help - people will soon stop helping if they're being ignored at critical points - or follow up on all the arguments, and continue with the 'we listen to the community' mantra. everything has a cost ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Slow response when answering a call
Hi all I just made up a small script here : #!/bin/sh cp /usr/share/applications/openmoko-dialer.desktop /tmp/openmoko-dialer.desktop sleep 5 cp /tmp/openmoko-dialer.desktop /usr/share/applications/openmoko-dialer.desktop Is it ok ? If so, how can automatically load it after startup ? For now, I am loading it with shortom. Kimaidou 2009/3/13 Cameron Frazier frazier.came...@gmail.com On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 22:07 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote: Well, that was almost more than I had dared hope for! This begs the question, how best to I set it up to run a script as soon as the GUI is done loading? It would probably be best to put a sleep 5 or so at the beginning, but I'd rather have it run after E is initialized. I too agree, having this voodoo incanted shortly after e init would be rather handy. I just tried it, and the delay dropped to only a second or two total, so a vast improvement. I suppose it will get better when the framework moves to a compiled language for FSO M6 (IIRC). Thanks for the info guys, Kind regards, Cameron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies
Hi list I think also it would be easier and much better to create deb packages. I think the opkg.org website is a very good portal for the dynamism of the community. Why not: * modifiy opkg.org so that for each software, we have 2 text boxes on the right side (where you copy.cut the installation command) : one for ipk, one for deb. * add a Help developper to package page in this website, with a tar containing a foobar application : one for ipk (with ipkg-build), one for debian (I do not know yet what to use :D ) This way everyone can really have the choice of distribution without lacking of openmoko oriented softwares. What do you think ? Kimaidou 2009/3/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes: Nice it would be grat in future if we (debian users) could just add opkg repos as deb ones... maybe with different priority... it may be difficult and risky, but indeed useful! Wouldn't it be much easier to just create real debian packages? If you have some example programs I can give examples of how you can create unofficial debian packages of those. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mysql / firebird on freerunner
Hi, hase anybody running a mysql database or a firebird database on the freerunner? Is the freerunner fast enough for a full SQL-Database, or is it only fast ennough for single user databases like SQLLite? (i know that SQLLite is not single user... but it hase no tcp/ip server) My idea was to programm a Messanger/Phonebook/Dialer Programm with a SQL-Backend in free pascal. The reason to use mysql or firebird in stead of SQLLite would be, that i could connect to the database per network and edit the data in a easy way over a frontend on my computer. (without mounting the device in any way, or programm a syncManager) Or would you say don't do the hole wheel again ... wait for the FSO interface for phonebook etc. . So we all will use the same backend. And programm a server/client app for easy editing and storing the sms, addresses etc. on your computer. thanks for comments Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTExtended] Alarm and wakeup
That is great! Meanwhile I will test other things, but a stable usuable alarm app is important (to me at least). Franky On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:54 AM, andrew howlett and...@howlett.net wrote: Franky: No, the phone will not wake up for alarms in QtE 4.4.3. But I have been testing a patched clock app which fixes this problem. I should have a stable patch ready by monday. radagast. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QTExtended--Alarm-and-wakeup-tp2469689p2471254.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IRC conversation with Mirko from the Paroli team
Openmoko (the company) doesn't have any responsibility to be open to the community. to be open to the community is at the core of their business model -- and, what's more, it accounts for a huge part of their customer base. Look at what happens every time a hardware-related (ie. gta03) post occurs on this list: there is a very strong split between people who want mutually-exclusive features, followed by a lot of arguing about which is better, when it really comes down to a matter of preference (the resistive vs. capacitive argument reminds me a lot of the stereotypical vim vs. emacs comparison which is guaranteed to start a flamewar on any LUG mailing list). well, how are they (om) supposed to know, what their customers want? and you certainly cannot stop people from arguing about specific features -- even users of totally closed hardware do. question is: how much has the discussion in the community to influence actual decisions inside openmoko. so far, i didn't see anyone being adamant that his/her demands have to be accepted by om. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FreeRunner, most used distributions
Hello, I was wondering: anyone has an idea or stats about which distributions are used by the FreeRunners out there? Something like: === Om 2007.x: 50% Om 2008.x: 20% SHR: 10% [...] Other hacks: 5% === Regards, Juan Lucas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner, most used distributions
On Mar 13, 2009 11:06am, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello, I was wondering: anyone has an idea or stats about which distributions are used by the FreeRunners out there? Something like: Om 2007.x: 50% Om 2008.x: 20% SHR: 10% [...] Other hacks: 5% I imagine that FSO has a serious share. It wouldn't be too hard to set up a poll on something like http://www.doodle.com/ Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
odd mail, pretends to be from openmoko sales dep
hi, i just received the mail below -- at a first glance it looks like simple spam, but on a second one it seems to be from om (and no visible snag). still strikes me as _very_ odd ... had anyone else such experiences? om: is this legit? and if so, what's the issue with it? received mail: Dear Sir, Thank you for the interest in Openmoko. Since I have seen you name in the group sales list at the wiki, I was wondering if you have already received what you intended to buy. If not, please let me know, so that I can help you processing your order. If you have any question, please do not hesitate to let me know. Sincerely, Ailsa Huang sales dept. Openmoko,inc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: odd mail, pretends to be from openmoko sales dep
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:28 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: hi, i just received the mail below -- at a first glance it looks like simple spam, but on a second one it seems to be from om (and no visible snag). still strikes me as _very_ odd ... had anyone else such experiences? om: is this legit? and if so, what's the issue with it? Got the same, I'd think they've taken the contacts from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales or something and just want to make sure people who have shown interest in buying will actually buy it, no matter what's the status of group sales. Or can't remember if one was able to subscribe to get a mail when the sales start.. If that's the case then I think the mail is a bit late .:) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner, most used distributions
On Friday 13 March 2009 11:06:37 Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hello, I was wondering: anyone has an idea or stats about which distributions are used by the FreeRunners out there? Something like: === Om 2007.x: 50% Om 2008.x: 20% SHR: 10% [...] Other hacks: 5% === Regards, Juan Lucas I created a survey once: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg and a Map with FR-Locations, so a potential buyer could have a look at it before buying one: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=115352610340426907999.000461ec26b35ac3fad63z=7 Both, the survey and the map are freely available to anyone and of course also to the bad guys that may be using the given data to send you offers for other mobile phones. :-) Which may be the reason why participation did not reach a level in any way comparable to responses on some postings on the mailing list. So it might not representative at all. For example it seems that there is only one FR sold to the US while not even one is available around Taipeh. ;-) To take part in the survey use this link: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I believe after taking part you get a nice summary, showing pretty graphs with percentages. At least I can see it but I couldn't manage to share it to anyone not logged in with a Google account. However I could print it to a file and publish it here if someone is interessted. Regards thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qt Extended 4.4.3] Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
On Friday 13 March 2009, andrew howlett wrote: Lorn, Chris: thank you! A pleasure! I ssh'd to my FreeRunner and added a line to /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/mime.types: audio/ogg+vorbis oga ogg s Yup, that'd work too (and is probably a better solution) - I presume the 's' is a typo ? Now I can play them using mediaplayer. Great stuff! HouYu, can we get this into the Git tree please ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Friday 13 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote: IMO all the needed callbacks are already there. Great! You can tell I'm not a programmer can't you.. :-) Attached is patch that fixes echo for both incoming and outgoing calls. I have also binary [1]. Fab, thanks! Next step is to send AT%N0187 on init and after call is made (as suggested by Joerg). Answering and making calls could by a bit faster but no idea if it will be noticable. Agreed - I guess you're including resuming on suspend in the init part ? cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner, most used distributions
Perhaps all the distribution should have linux counter as a default package, see earlier posts on this. This way you will have acurate numbers of who is using what and when. I've switched over to SHR testing, hope you all do the same ;) Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi, From that table I came up with two conclusions: - There is a large number of FreeRunners running Om 2008.X - Apparently it'snot too dificult to have a couple distributions installed and choose one of them each time you reboot the phone. That's great news for me! Thanks a lot Juan Lucas On Friday 13 March 2009 11:06:37 Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hello, I was wondering: anyone has an idea or stats about which distributions are used by the FreeRunners out there? Something like: === Om 2007.x: 50% Om 2008.x: 20% SHR: 10% [...] Other hacks: 5% === Regards, Juan Lucas I created a survey once: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg and a Map with FR-Locations, so a potential buyer could have a look at it before buying one: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=115352610340426907999.000461ec26b35ac3fad63z=7 http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=115352610340426907999.000461ec26b35ac3fad63z=7 Both, the survey and the map are freely available to anyone and of course also to the bad guys that may be using the given data to send you offers for other mobile phones. :-) Which may be the reason why participation did not reach a level in any way comparable to responses on some postings on the mailing list. So it might not representative at all. For example it seems that there is only one FR sold to the US while not even one is available around Taipeh. ;-) To take part in the survey use this link: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I believe after taking part you get a nice summary, showing pretty graphs with percentages. At least I can see it but I couldn't manage to share it to anyone not logged in with a Google account. However I could print it to a file and publish it here if someone is interessted. Regards thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: FreeRunner, most used distributions
Hi, From that table I came up with two conclusions: - There is a large number of FreeRunners running Om 2008.X - Apparently it'snot too dificult to have a couple distributions installed and choose one of them each time you reboot the phone. That's great news for me! Thanks a lot Juan Lucas On Friday 13 March 2009 11:06:37 Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hello, I was wondering: anyone has an idea or stats about which distributions are used by the FreeRunners out there? Something like: === Om 2007.x: 50% Om 2008.x: 20% SHR: 10% [...] Other hacks: 5% === Regards, Juan Lucas I created a survey once: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg and a Map with FR-Locations, so a potential buyer could have a look at it before buying one: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=115352610340426907999.000461ec26b35ac3fad63z=7 Both, the survey and the map are freely available to anyone and of course also to the bad guys that may be using the given data to send you offers for other mobile phones. :-) Which may be the reason why participation did not reach a level in any way comparable to responses on some postings on the mailing list. So it might not representative at all. For example it seems that there is only one FR sold to the US while not even one is available around Taipeh. ;-) To take part in the survey use this link: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I believe after taking part you get a nice summary, showing pretty graphs with percentages. At least I can see it but I couldn't manage to share it to anyone not logged in with a Google account. However I could print it to a file and publish it here if someone is interessted. Regards thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
can't get git_git.paroli-project.org.paroli.git.tar.gz
Dear List, I have found that I can't get http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/git_git.paroli-project.org.paroli.git.tar.gz . I also tried wget http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/git_git.paroli-project.org.paroli.git.tar.gz, but it didn't work. I have been trying to get this package to build fso for a couple of days. I seems that the server has something wrong. Is this package avaliable? or where can I get this package to go on build fso image? fso build log === NOTE: fetch http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/git_git.paroli-project.org.paroli.git.tar.gz --19:46:43-- http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/git_git.paroli-project.org.paroli.git.tar.gz = `/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/downloads/git_git.paroli-project.org.paroli.git.tar.gz' Resolving downloads.openmoko.org... 88.198.93.219 Connecting to downloads.openmoko.org|88.198.93.219|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 19:46:44 ERROR 404: Not Found. fatal: http://git.paroli-project.org/paroli.git/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? Initialized empty Git repository in /home/daniel/freerunner/fso/downloads/git/git.paroli-project.org.paroli.git/.git/ NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: Fetch command export PATH=/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/tmp/staging/i686-linux/usr/bin/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi:/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/tmp/staging/i686-linux/usr/bin/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi:/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/tmp/staging/i686-linux/usr/sbin:/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/tmp/staging/i686-linux/usr/bin:/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/tmp/cross/armv4t/bin:/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/tmp/staging/i686-linux/sbin:/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin:/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/bitbake/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games; git clone -n http://git.paroli-project.org/paroli.git /home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/downloads/git/git.paroli-project.org.paroli.git failed with signal 128, output: fatal: http://git.paroli-project.org/paroli.git/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? Initialized empty Git repository in /home/daniel/freerunner/fso/downloads/git/git.paroli-project.org.paroli.git/.git/ NOTE: package paroli-0.2.1 +gitr7a2fdc16174258e9276e7c2d80f500b4dd624442-r0: task do_fetch: failed ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting NOTE: package paroli-0.2.1+gitr7a2fdc16174258e9276e7c2d80f500b4dd624442: failed ERROR: Build of /home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/openembedded/packages/openmoko-projects/paroli_git.bb do_fetch failed ERROR: Task 690 (/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/openembedded/packages/openmoko-projects/paroli_git.bb, do_fetch) failed NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 6241 tasks of which 6241 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. ERROR: '/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5/openembedded/packages/openmoko-projects/paroli_git.bb' failed NOTE: build 200903131941: completed make[1]: *** [image] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/freerunner/fso/fso-milestone5' make: *** [fso-gta02-milestone5-image] Error 2 -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner, most used distributions
On Mar 13, 2009, at 04:21 , Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi, From that table I came up with two conclusions: - There is a large number of FreeRunners running Om 2008.X - Apparently it'snot too dificult to have a couple distributions installed and choose one of them each time you reboot the phone. This is certainly true. I've dithered back and forth between having FSO 5 and OM 2008.x in its various incantations flashed on my FR while having either Qtopia or Android loaded on the uSD. ---Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner, most used distributions
On Mar 13, 2009, at 04:21 , Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi, From that table I came up with two conclusions: - There is a large number of FreeRunners running Om 2008.X - Apparently it'snot too dificult to have a couple distributions installed and choose one of them each time you reboot the phone. This is certainly true. I've dithered back and forth between having FSO 5 and OM 2008.x in its various incantations flashed on my FR while having either Qtopia or Android loaded on the uSD. ---Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OPKG.org] suggestions (was : [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies)
maybe some folks weren't interested in the original topic. i do not know php, but maybe someone else can help. i am also forwarding this mail to the german freeyourphone forum. i hope you guys don't mind reposting + top-posting this time. kimaidou schrieb: Hi list I think also it would be easier and much better to create deb packages. I think the opkg.org http://opkg.org website is a very good portal for the dynamism of the community. Why not: * modifiy opkg.org http://opkg.org so that for each software, we have 2 text boxes on the right side (where you copy.cut the installation command) : one for ipk, one for deb. * add a Help developper to package page in this website, with a tar containing a foobar application : one for ipk (with ipkg-build), one for debian (I do not know yet what to use :D ) This way everyone can really have the choice of distribution without lacking of openmoko oriented softwares. What do you think ? Kimaidou 2009/3/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk mailto:r...@sygehus.dk writes: Nice it would be grat in future if we (debian users) could just add opkg repos as deb ones... maybe with different priority... it may be difficult and risky, but indeed useful! Wouldn't it be much easier to just create real debian packages? If you have some example programs I can give examples of how you can create unofficial debian packages of those. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
Chris Samuel wrote(a): Next step is to send AT%N0187 on init and after call is made (as suggested by Joerg). Answering and making calls could by a bit faster but no idea if it will be noticable. Agreed - I guess you're including resuming on suspend in the init part ? cheers! Chris AT%N0187 is not canceled by susped/resume. At least it wasnt in my experiments. I attempted to place AT%N0187 after call, but it seems to be quite complicated. The solution _before_ call is probably good enough (at least for now). Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: odd mail, pretends to be from openmoko sales dep
Hey arne, I've received it. I would believe it's true as the headers are clean. It's probably just someone from the sales department going through the wiki to make sure that you got the phone. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:28 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: hi, i just received the mail below -- at a first glance it looks like simple spam, but on a second one it seems to be from om (and no visible snag). still strikes me as _very_ odd ... had anyone else such experiences? om: is this legit? and if so, what's the issue with it? received mail: Dear Sir, Thank you for the interest in Openmoko. Since I have seen you name in the group sales list at the wiki, I was wondering if you have already received what you intended to buy. If not, please let me know, so that I can help you processing your order. If you have any question, please do not hesitate to let me know. Sincerely, Ailsa Huang sales dept. Openmoko,inc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] Volume very low
Hello, I am using an application that use FSO Framework to make call. It run well, but I have a stupid problem. When I do a call I listen the other person with a low volume while the other person listen perfect to me. I tryed with alsamixer to put all the level to max, but no result. Someone has some tips to appy to a just installed deb...@fr? Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Packaging python apps, f.e. pythm (was: Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies)
Am Thursday 12 March 2009 23:25:28 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes: Nice it would be grat in future if we (debian users) could just add opkg repos as deb ones... maybe with different priority... it may be difficult and risky, but indeed useful! Wouldn't it be much easier to just create real debian packages? If you have some example programs I can give examples of how you can create unofficial debian packages of those. Hello list ;), Hello Timo, I'd like to package pythm for debian (always copying the svn checkout to r...@neo: isn't that satisfactory), but the tar.gz only contains a setup.py, no autotools-files which is assumed by the debian maint/packaging guide. How may I approach this? -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird
Hey guys,
I suppose a little update. I've recently switched to SHR-Testing and
a little while on SHR-Unstable. Currently there is no import
functionality, but thanks to Aleš Horák, he's created some scripts
called the DBus Access Scripts for handling the SIM phonebooks.
For those wishing to use these scripts and are needing to convert your
VCF 3.0 files from Thunderbird or otherwise to VCF 2.1, please run the
following:
sed -r -e 's/;TYPE=([^,]+),[^:]+;/;\1:/g' old.vcf new.vcf
sed -r -e 's/VERSION:3.0/VERSION:2.1/g' new.vcf new.vcf
On the FR, run:
./ImportContacts new.vcf
If the contacts.sh file is created and filled but doesn't import, then
you will need to check for the following in the contacts.sh file:
- Windows EOL character (^M) at the end of the name and number field
- An apostrophe or quote in the name (' or )
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Re: mysql / firebird on freerunner
On Friday 13 March 2009, Benedikt Schindler wrote: Hi, hase anybody running a mysql database or a firebird database on the freerunner? Is the freerunner fast enough for a full SQL-Database, or is it only fast ennough for single user databases like SQLLite? (i know that SQLLite is not single user... but it hase no tcp/ip server) My idea was to programm a Messanger/Phonebook/Dialer Programm with a SQL-Backend in free pascal. The reason to use mysql or firebird in stead of SQLLite would be, that i could connect to the database per network and edit the data in a easy way over a frontend on my computer. (without mounting the device in any way, or programm a syncManager) Or would you say don't do the hole wheel again ... wait for the FSO interface for phonebook etc. . So we all will use the same backend. And programm a server/client app for easy editing and storing the sms, addresses etc. on your computer. I've run mysql on some very skinny x86 systems without problems, so I don't think it's unreasonable. It's in OE and compiles for FSO milestone5. Give it a try! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Slow response when answering a call
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:30:47 -0400 Cameron Frazier frazier.came...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it, and the delay dropped to only a second or two total, so a vast improvement. I suppose it will get better when the framework moves to a compiled language for FSO M6 (IIRC). Just to clarify and not get any hopes up: We have a long way to go until the framework moves to a compiled language. It will definitely not be MS6. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Slow response when answering a call
Just to clarify and not get any hopes up: We have a long way to go until the framework moves to a compiled language. It will definitely not be MS6. Regards, Daniel Willmann Understood and apologies. I probably misunderstood a portion of an FSO update. Regardless, when it happens, I imagine it would greatly help this issue. Kind regards, Cameron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mysql / firebird on freerunner
On 13/03/2009 10:52, Benedikt Schindler wrote: Or would you say don't do the hole wheel again ... wait for the FSO interface for phonebook etc. . So we all will use the same backend. And programm a server/client app for easy editing and storing the sms, addresses etc. on your computer. If you install Debian, you can install all the SQL server supported by Debian. I think Freerunner can keep a running instance of MySQL without problems. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Mokometeo - version 0.2 :D
Hi list, I have just released Mokometeo 0.2, with some improvements and bug fixes: # added some print in the code # debug the .mokometeo folder ; put the config folder in /home/root/.mokometeo/ instead of /.mokometeo/ # test if the connection to internet is ok. If not, display question marks # backup the data each time data is downloaded and displayed. this data is used on the next mokometeo startup # added the date and time when the data has been downloaded See this page for more details : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokometeo Bye kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Slow response when answering a call
Regardless, when it happens, I imagine it would greatly help this issue. i doubt it. i use fso on debian for several months now and since a long while back there's no remarkable delay anymore. maybe some shr specific stuff causes your delays? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] duplicate SMS messages
I haven't had time to install a 4.4.3 build yet, but I was wondering if anyone had confirmed if the duplicate sms message issue has been resolved? I'm running Lorn's build of 4.4.2, but my sms inbox keeps filling up 'cause every time I get an sms, I get duplicates of many of my messages added to the inbox... Anyone know if that's been fixed? Warren ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] duplicate SMS messages
Warren Baird wrote(a): I haven't had time to install a 4.4.3 build yet, but I was wondering if anyone had confirmed if the duplicate sms message issue has been resolved? I'm running Lorn's build of 4.4.2, but my sms inbox keeps filling up 'cause every time I get an sms, I get duplicates of many of my messages added to the inbox... Anyone know if that's been fixed? Warren Just tested sending 3 SMS to my phone from internet gateway. Got build from QTE improved and see no duplicates. Maybe i am doing somethnig wrong ;-) or it is fixed. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newbie questions
Hello thanks a lot for Your answers. I tried latest Qt release (qtextended-4.4.2), according to documentation CSD is supported but I have trouble with using. QtExtented has example application (caller) which shows CSD usage but unfortunately example does not work for me. Also, how I can get source of kernel used in latest Qt delivery (testing-om-gta02-20081029.uImage.bin)? Kind regards Mile On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote: On Monday 09 March 2009, Mile Davidovic wrote: Hello What about CSD or data call? What is best way to enable CSD functionality? That'll depend on which distro you're using as they mediate access to the GSM modem differently. 2008.x uses QtExtended but I can't give you any pointers as to how it works beyond that. For distros using the freesmartphone.org dbus API you can use org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel to get a virtual tty, then use pppd to make your CSD connection over that tty as normal. Remember to free the channel after the connection is terminated. That's the theory anyway - I haven't actually tried it! See docs.freesmartphone.org for invocation details. There may be a case for extending the API to include org.freesmartphone.GSM.CSD as well as the existing PDP coverage. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Packaging python apps, f.e. pythm (was: Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies)
I want to let you know that I am going to package ITP: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org/msg621478.html and upload pythm into Debian main (probably later on this week... preliminary packaging is already done). It will be based on Dylan's and my fork of pythm (some changes from Paul TT were already absorbed). Sources are available from https://github.com/yarikoptic/pythm and debian packaging will appear in a debian branch out there in the foreseeable future ;) On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Marcel wrote: Am Thursday 12 March 2009 23:25:28 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes: Nice it would be grat in future if we (debian users) could just add opkg repos as deb ones... maybe with different priority... it may be difficult and risky, but indeed useful! Wouldn't it be much easier to just create real debian packages? If you have some example programs I can give examples of how you can create unofficial debian packages of those. Hello list ;), Hello Timo, I'd like to package pythm for debian (always copying the svn checkout to r...@neo: isn't that satisfactory), but the tar.gz only contains a setup.py, no autotools-files which is assumed by the debian maint/packaging guide. How may I approach this? -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Selling Neo Freerunner Southern California
I'm selling my Neo Freerunner in the Southern California area for $250 obo. If interested, please email. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Slow response when answering a call
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:39 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Regardless, when it happens, I imagine it would greatly help this issue. i doubt it. i use fso on debian for several months now and since a long while back there's no remarkable delay anymore. maybe some shr specific stuff causes your delays? That's what my thinking is. In my initial e-mail I was contrasting the delays between the previous SHR releases. Kind regards, Cameron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] read GPS logger i-blue 747 on freerunner over USB
Hello, Am Donnerstag 12. März 2009 22:12:06 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 05:46:19PM +0100, Carsten Gerlach wrote: The kernel has the right module for this chipset, cp2101, wich I can load with modprobe cp2101. It should happen automatically. Yes, now it works. I know, that i have to set the Freerunner to USB host mode. I used the openmoko-panel to switch to USB host mode. That hasn't worked for a few months now. To switch to USB host mode: # echo /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode host # echo /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode 1 To switch back to USB device mode: # echo /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode 0 # echo /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode device Yeah, that was the right hint. Now it works. But the Freerunner is _very_ slow. I should take the laptop with me ;-) Greetings, Carsten -- Hier ist mein öffentlicher GPG-Schlüssel: http://daswaldhorn.funpic.de/gpg.html = www.stopptdievorratsdatenspeicherung.de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies
maybe it would be easier... or maybe not... opkg and deb packages are similar, so it would be nice to have a cross-tool. As you can see debian packaging some times is slow... that's why sometimes it may be useful to test opkg apps directly. (and after all.. linux is choice, isn't it?) If you want to give a try, you can starting compiling navit, that right now it's missing on deb repos. d On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes: Nice it would be grat in future if we (debian users) could just add opkg repos as deb ones... maybe with different priority... it may be difficult and risky, but indeed useful! Wouldn't it be much easier to just create real debian packages? If you have some example programs I can give examples of how you can create unofficial debian packages of those. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: odd mail, pretends to be from openmoko sales dep
What's the FROM: ? /jOERG Am Fr 13. März 2009 schrieb arne anka: hi, i just received the mail below -- at a first glance it looks like simple spam, but on a second one it seems to be from om (and no visible snag). still strikes me as _very_ odd ... had anyone else such experiences? om: is this legit? and if so, what's the issue with it? received mail: Dear Sir, Thank you for the interest in Openmoko. Since I have seen you name in the group sales list at the wiki, I was wondering if you have already received what you intended to buy. If not, please let me know, so that I can help you processing your order. If you have any question, please do not hesitate to let me know. Sincerely, Ailsa Huang sales dept. Openmoko,inc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IRC conversation with Mirko from the Paroli team
On Mar 13 21:30+1300, Robin Paulson wrote: snip true, but they can't have it both ways. if they say, 'we want input from the community' on something or other, the likelihood of disagreement/flames/arguments etc. goes up. then they either can snip They don't ask for input from the community on everything, though. I was merely trying to point out that there shouldn't be any expectation of them telling 'the community' what they are going to do before they do anything. Obviously they should still communicate with any significant contributors about anything they are doing that will affect said contributors -- but there is no reason to try to communicate it to the whole community; and it would be ridiculous to expect all of these communications to be public. -- Eldon Koyle ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: odd mail, pretends to be from openmoko sales dep
if I'm not mistaken, it's: Ailsa Huang ailsa_hu...@openmoko.com On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: What's the FROM: ? /jOERG Am Fr 13. März 2009 schrieb arne anka: hi, i just received the mail below -- at a first glance it looks like simple spam, but on a second one it seems to be from om (and no visible snag). still strikes me as _very_ odd ... had anyone else such experiences? om: is this legit? and if so, what's the issue with it? received mail: Dear Sir, Thank you for the interest in Openmoko. Since I have seen you name in the group sales list at the wiki, I was wondering if you have already received what you intended to buy. If not, please let me know, so that I can help you processing your order. If you have any question, please do not hesitate to let me know. Sincerely, Ailsa Huang sales dept. Openmoko,inc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] duplicate SMS messages
On 14/03/2009, at 2:33 AM, Radek Polak wrote: Warren Baird wrote(a): I haven't had time to install a 4.4.3 build yet, but I was wondering if anyone had confirmed if the duplicate sms message issue has been resolved? I'm running Lorn's build of 4.4.2, but my sms inbox keeps filling up 'cause every time I get an sms, I get duplicates of many of my messages added to the inbox... Anyone know if that's been fixed? Warren Just tested sending 3 SMS to my phone from internet gateway. Got build from QTE improved and see no duplicates. Maybe i am doing somethnig wrong ;-) or it is fixed. This problem was intermittent and only happened on gta02, and only sometimes. We looked into this but could not reliably reproduce it, although it always happened on my gta02. We believe it was most likely the modem, or something to do with it, but don't know for sure. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: odd mail, pretends to be from openmoko sales dep
On Mar 13, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Will Siddall wrote: if I'm not mistaken, it's: Ailsa Huang ailsa_hu...@openmoko.com That is correct PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner, most used distributions
Distrowatch for FreeRunner! Great idea! http://distrowatch.com/ Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hello, I was wondering: anyone has an idea or stats about which distributions are used by the FreeRunners out there? Something like: === Om 2007.x: 50% Om 2008.x: 20% SHR: 10% [...] Other hacks: 5% === ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] duplicate SMS messages
Lorn Potter a écrit : Just tested sending 3 SMS to my phone from internet gateway. Got build from QTE improved and see no duplicates. Maybe i am doing somethnig wrong ;-) or it is fixed. This problem was intermittent and only happened on gta02, and only sometimes. We looked into this but could not reliably reproduce it, although it always happened on my gta02. We believe it was most likely the modem, or something to do with it, but don't know for sure. I had this problem when I used to move my SIM card from an other phone to my FR. I don't do this anymore (buzz fix :D) and I don't have this problem anymore. It does not prove anything, maybe it will help. -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Slow response when answering a call
1) Create a .desktop file for your script (e.g., /home/root/fix-e.desktop). 2) Tell E to run that .desktop file on startup by adding its path to ~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order. echo /home/root/fix-e.desktop /home/root/.e/e/applications/startup/.order I am using a script that does not require having a dummy .desktop file lying around and seems to do the trick: #!/bin/sh FILENAME=/usr/share/applications/_fudge.desktop APP=[Desktop Entry] Name=fudge Encoding=UTF-8 Type=Application Comment=Fudge to make enlightenment not take such CPU time. Exec=/bin/false Categories=Applications echo $APP $FILENAME sleep 10 rm $FILENAME On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:31 AM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I just made up a small script here : #!/bin/sh cp /usr/share/applications/openmoko-dialer.desktop /tmp/openmoko-dialer.desktop sleep 5 cp /tmp/openmoko-dialer.desktop /usr/share/applications/openmoko-dialer.desktop Is it ok ? If so, how can automatically load it after startup ? For now, I am loading it with shortom. Kimaidou 2009/3/13 Cameron Frazier frazier.came...@gmail.com On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 22:07 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote: Well, that was almost more than I had dared hope for! This begs the question, how best to I set it up to run a script as soon as the GUI is done loading? It would probably be best to put a sleep 5 or so at the beginning, but I'd rather have it run after E is initialized. I too agree, having this voodoo incanted shortly after e init would be rather handy. I just tried it, and the delay dropped to only a second or two total, so a vast improvement. I suppose it will get better when the framework moves to a compiled language for FSO M6 (IIRC). Thanks for the info guys, Kind regards, Cameron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Slow response when answering a call
Ugh, my E seems to be broken. It no longer detects when something in /usr/share/applications changes. What now?? :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newbie questions
The latest is 4.4.3 which has a new git repo available for community maintenance. They've added echo fixes in the last couple of days. I think they're using current kernels which have a multitude of fixes too. See this thread for details, many of which will appear towards the end. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-March/043331.html On Friday 13 March 2009, Mile Davidovic wrote: Hello thanks a lot for Your answers. I tried latest Qt release (qtextended-4.4.2), according to documentation CSD is supported but I have trouble with using. QtExtented has example application (caller) which shows CSD usage but unfortunately example does not work for me. Also, how I can get source of kernel used in latest Qt delivery (testing-om-gta02-20081029.uImage.bin)? Kind regards Mile On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote: On Monday 09 March 2009, Mile Davidovic wrote: Hello What about CSD or data call? What is best way to enable CSD functionality? That'll depend on which distro you're using as they mediate access to the GSM modem differently. 2008.x uses QtExtended but I can't give you any pointers as to how it works beyond that. For distros using the freesmartphone.org dbus API you can use org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel to get a virtual tty, then use pppd to make your CSD connection over that tty as normal. Remember to free the channel after the connection is terminated. That's the theory anyway - I haven't actually tried it! See docs.freesmartphone.org for invocation details. There may be a case for extending the API to include org.freesmartphone.GSM.CSD as well as the existing PDP coverage. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: odd mail, pretends to be from openmoko sales dep
I received it. Here is the header fromKevin Dean ke...@foreverdean.infotopablodanielm...@gmail.com dateFri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:20 PMsubjectOpenmoko Neo 1973 On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Rodney D. Myers rod_my...@fastmail.fmwrote: On Mar 13, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Will Siddall wrote: if I'm not mistaken, it's: Ailsa Huang ailsa_hu...@openmoko.com That is correct ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pablo Miño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Your package is broken in opkg.org
Risto H. Kurppa schrieb: (cc:d the authors of some broken packages I was able to extract the e-mail address from..) Hi! If you have packaged some of the apps listed below, I just want to let you know that the package in opkg.org is broken and not recognized as an installable file (to try this, download the packages from opkg.org and run file package.ipk - it should return Debian Binary but for the ones listed below, it returns data/empty or gzip) So please check that your local package returns debian binary and then upload it again to opkg.org. The file need to have a control file in it to work in the opkg.org repository opkg.org/packages Packaging instructions can be found at http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/packaging/ Thanks! r On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: DATA gpssight_0.8.4_freerunner.armv4t.ipk EMPTY sortdesk_1.2_armv4t.ipk jdd_0.1_all.ipk usbmode_0.1_armv4t.ipk accel-rotate_0.41_armv4t.ipk 0_multitap-pad_0.1_armv4t.ipk omview_r32_armv4t.ipk deforaos-player_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk illume-keyboards-ru_0.2_om-gta02.ipk GZIP yphonekitd_0.4.3_any.ipk zomg_0.0.6-r2_armv4t.ipk mbac_0.3_all.ipk ylock_0.2_all.ipk mofi_0.02_armv4t.ipk illume-keyboards-norwegian-no_0.1_all.ipk efplayer_0.3_arm.ipk playstankontakarta_0.4_any.ipk osmupdater_0.4_any.ipk voicenote_0.3_arm.ipk mokocard_0.1_all.ipk mokoconv_0.1_all.ipk shortom_0.2_all.ipk So things seem to fail because: - Empty file is an empty file, not much to discuss about that. Only need to find out the reason for that: did the authors really upload an empty package or did the upload fail but an empty file was created? - ar isn't able to extract gzip files so all files recognized as gzip will not get listed properly in the Packages file. Again the reason for the wrong file type should be found: did the packages package it wrong or did the type/mime/something get corrupted along the way, during the upload or on the server? i finally found out whi it happened: rule of thumb: never build ipks using busybox (i built the latest version directly on my neo. bad idea! thx for the info, will befixed a soon as my box is working again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] duplicate SMS messages
Interesting. Have you tried 4.4.3 on your gta02 yet? :-) Warren On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote: On 14/03/2009, at 2:33 AM, Radek Polak wrote: Warren Baird wrote(a): I haven't had time to install a 4.4.3 build yet, but I was wondering if anyone had confirmed if the duplicate sms message issue has been resolved? I'm running Lorn's build of 4.4.2, but my sms inbox keeps filling up 'cause every time I get an sms, I get duplicates of many of my messages added to the inbox... Anyone know if that's been fixed? Warren Just tested sending 3 SMS to my phone from internet gateway. Got build from QTE improved and see no duplicates. Maybe i am doing somethnig wrong ;-) or it is fixed. This problem was intermittent and only happened on gta02, and only sometimes. We looked into this but could not reliably reproduce it, although it always happened on my gta02. We believe it was most likely the modem, or something to do with it, but don't know for sure. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Community effort: Browser review/comparison in wiki
Hi! Since the current state of web browsers for OM distributions is now really bad, I was planning to write a browser review/comparison to point out the reality. I then realized it's a lot of work for one man so I thought why couldn't we share the load and write it together. This way I hope that the best of these, or the one that has the most potential, is found and can be maybe developed to a actually working browser. Check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Browser_review Install one of these browsers (or another) on your 2008.12/SHR(maybe Debian too?), tell us how to install it and run the test. r (I'm currently using Minimo as AFAIK it's the only one that can actually login to gmail, and I know that it's not developed anymore but.. ) -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Good news: FixNow mode can be wakenup through serial port
U-BLOX GPS chip ANTRAIS 4 and above can run in several power modes:
0: Continuous Tracking Mode, about 3.5 mA
1: Fix Now -- sleep mode about 130 uA
Fix Now mode can be enabled by ubx binary message CFG-RXM. Detailed
parameters are configured by CFG-FXN.
One of the problem is how to activate (wake up) from sleep mode. I've read
several message lists discussing this issue, it seems no way to wake up
through serial port.
http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-kernel/2009/1/22/4794494/thread
I've tried make GPS chip goes into sleep mode several days ago, but can't
wakeup it.
Last night I found good references through google:
1.
http://www.u-blox.com/customersupport/gps.g3/ANTARIS_EvalKit_User_Guide(GPS.G3-EK-02003).pdf
When waking up TIM-Lx with RxD1, RxD2 from sleep- or backup state send a
number (at least 8) of
0xFF characters to wake up the serial communication module otherwise the
first bytes may get lost. To
request a position fix a position request message must be sent via serial
port after waking up the
ANTARIS GPS Receiver.
2.
http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/36822/NL_60415_-_Datenblatt_u-blox_GPS_Module_24092007_481.pdf
5.3.3 Change operation mode
Please add header with dummy data for any command when the GPS module is in
sleep mode. This is required for wake-up in sleep mode. The dummy data in
hexadecimal is “0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF”.
I've test this with ubx binary protocol:
1) enable FixNow (sleep mode) by CFG-RXM, configure CFG-FXN
2) periodically poll NAV-POSLLH, NAV-VELNED, NAV-SVINFO. Before writing each
poll request, write
unsigned char array {0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,
0xB5,0x62,0x02,0x40,0x00,0x00,0x42,0xC8};
/* note: first line: dummy data, second line: RXM-POSREQ */
then sleep 1 second;
3) toggle between Continuous Tracking Mode and FixNow mode by call
CFG-RXM (if in FixNow mode, first write dummy data and RXM-POSREQ)
With MON-SCHED, the average GPS CPU load in Continuous Tracking Mode is
about 35%, regardless of send_rate, max nav SVs, 2d/2d nav mode. No
performance test data for FixNow mode for now.
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Re: [SHR-Testing] Slow response when answering a call
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:59:50 +0900 W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: Just once, I do it straight after boot - lasts through suspend etc. The original called for move and I wrote copy - sorry - not sure if copy works as well, or it has to be move (mv vs cp) BillK What works is anything that causes E/Illume to reload. Any change to a .desktop file will do it. What I've used for a while now when editing edje themes and icons is killall -HUP enlightenment. Save the lines below as Relite.desktop and it will work. (the icon is extracted from default.edj, it's also at http://newkirk.us/om/icon_applications_restart.png ) I think I'd find it irritating, but I suspect this can be 'automated' by sticking the killall command in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99relite - maybe with a 20 second delay. j [Desktop Entry] Name=Relite Comment=Elightenment reload Exec=killall -HUP enlightenment Icon=icon_applications_restart.png Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Application;Utility; ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies
Nice it would be grat in future if we (debian users) could just add opkg repos as deb ones... maybe with different priority... it may be difficult and risky, but indeed useful! Wouldn't it be much easier to just create real debian packages? Well, since [io]pkgs can be found in all kinds of places, it would definitely be preferable to just be able to install [io]pkgs directly without depending on the willingness to make a .deb variant of it. Of course, another option is to create a tool like Alien that takes a .[io]pk and turns it into a .deb. Most likely such a tool would mostly tweak the architecture tag and adjust a few dependencies. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: date and GPS related questions
Fernando Martins wrote: 1) I got the date reset to 1970 a few times. I was not paying attention but I guess this happens when battery is removed, i.e., there's no battery specific for the clock? There is a backup battery. Make sure that the system time is being saved to the hardware clock, e.g. hwclock --utc --systohc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IRC conversation with Mirko from the Paroli team
I've got to agree that some more communication about Paroli would be a good thing. Arne's got it exactly right by saying to be 'open to the community' is at the core of their business model -- and, what's more, it accounts for a huge part of their customer base. After all, what was the point of selling the phones so early in the development cycle in the first place? Right on the main page of the wiki it says: Openmoko is a project driven by a community of passionate and intelligent volunteers. If you have the ability, please contribute to our cause. Openmoko's ambitions far exceed the resources available. It can't be both ways. If Openmoko wants the community to help and/or develop for projects like Paroli, they need to be responsive when their volunteers ask for more information. With Paroli in particular I can't see it being such a big deal to size the window so it can be used with Illume. At least for right now, until more time can be dedicated to whatever mysterious way we'll eventually use to switch back and forth can be implemented. And while I don't know anything about the previous conversations between Mirko and Paul, I really hope that I never get dealt with that way by anyone with an openmoko.com email account. Nobody's perfect and I don't want to single Mirko out, but the conversation in the above IRC logs are less than stellar. Not a great way to deal with volunteers whose effort you're hoping to benefit from, especially when those volunteers are also paying customers. In general however I think Openmoko is starting to do better with communication, Paroli being a notable exception. I'm still very excited about the direction the platform is taking. FSO is a very good idea, and one day Openmoko phones will kick ass (as phones! :) Jeremy McNaughton On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Eldon Koyle eko...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 13 21:30+1300, Robin Paulson wrote: snip true, but they can't have it both ways. if they say, 'we want input from the community' on something or other, the likelihood of disagreement/flames/arguments etc. goes up. then they either can snip They don't ask for input from the community on everything, though. I was merely trying to point out that there shouldn't be any expectation of them telling 'the community' what they are going to do before they do anything. Obviously they should still communicate with any significant contributors about anything they are doing that will affect said contributors -- but there is no reason to try to communicate it to the whole community; and it would be ridiculous to expect all of these communications to be public. -- Eldon Koyle ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
