Re: [QtExtended] some things
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 02:22:14PM +1100, Dale Maggee wrote: I'd suggest you filter out this conversation if you're not interested. Good idea. :0 * ^From: (Dale Maggee|Lorn Potter) |/dev/null ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:15:53PM +0900, Russell Steicke wrote: :0 * ^From: (Dale Maggee|Lorn Potter) |/dev/null Oops... :0 * ^From: (Dale Maggee|Lorn Potter) /dev/null ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Friendly chess program
Maemo has good chess (uses gnuchess). Look screenshot: http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/maemo_chess1.png (800x480px) ps 1538 user 1448 SW /usr/bin/chess_startup /usr/share/osso-chess-ui/osso_ 1539 user 22928 SW /usr/bin/chess_startup 1542 user 1448 SW /usr/bin/chessui 1543 user 24020 SW /usr/bin/chessui 1544 user 10752 SW /usr/games/gnuchess xboard apt-cache policy osso-chess-ui - 1.5.15-0 apt-cache policy gnuchess - 5.07-7osso1 I think this migth be a good start: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1/free/o/osso-chess-ui/ http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1/free/g/gnuchess/ -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian package for pythm Was: [debian] Packaging python apps, f.e. pythm...
I'm sure the discussion wasen't about _your_ package, but a more general thought on what would be useful to keep growing debian operativity on thr FR ;-) d On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko site-openmoko.org@ onerussian.com wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: (pkg-fso for example). To achieve this the requirements to get into pkg-fso shouldn't be too demanding imho. I thought pkg-fso was a temporary repository for packages that are aiming to enter debian. I would be surprised if I got some low-quality stuff from there. and I aim to ship pythm into Debian as soon as all dependencies are available (python-edbus is the one and it is to be provided by pkg-fso team) in the Debian main Debian package is already almost complete imho (just missing manpage and need a correct xpm icon for menu). Not sure what additional steps I need to do to make the package 'high quality' ;) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fso-gps..
ok, i will testing again.. but with the previus system there was also no failure.. and my brother had 7 fixes in anything about 5 minutes, me 0.. also after restart, disabeling and enabeling etc.. but good cause the code work's :) ps: see you @ openmoko-stand by openexpo bern, i heard? (i work also there) :) it's cool for me to see one of the fso-developers :D On Dienstag 17 März 2009 00:38:17 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: No failure -- see above. Device should be up and running now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thinking deeply about cofundos.org
I have created a kiosk for Openmoko in cofundos[1] that will show any project with openmoko in their tags I also create a ticket to admin track to integrate the cofundos feed of openmoko realted projects[2] in planet ig [1] http://openmoko.cofundos.org [2] http://www.cofundos.org/feed.php?tag=openmoko Brenda, I want to also create a wiki page but will be cool to have a RSS plugin to have updated all projects in, any posibility to do this? Best regards 2009/3/16 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: Dear colleges distributors, Due Risto and Aapo initiative about programing contest, and the post of Risto about Pay for your Open Source software! in his blog makes me realize than people like me with not enough time/skills to drive a moderate/high complex software project to success, can collaborate in more than just test or spread this software.Cofundos.org will help to boost any idea you have in mind and give a opportunity to earn some money to people that have this time/skills you not have, but It's even greater than this , and this is the main reason I wrote this message, we can JOIN efforts easily . We are about 25 distributors around the world with different sizes and points of view but surely we have a lot of coincidences on what software we want to be able to offer to our costumers in the Neo, and surely we receive from costumers the same kind of inputs about what they want. Surelly most of you, like me, doesn't have enough resources to hire a developer or to move enough community critical mass to fulfill some of this needs alone... I don't know what you feel about this but for me is a very frustrating situation. But now the great news, we don't have to stay alone in that situation :), initiative like cofundos can help us to share does needs and if enough resources are joined and I'm not just talking about money, each of us reach developers dificult or imposible to reach by the others for example, some of those needs can be successfully achieved. To preach with examples I have started one of those projects myself Voip on Neo Freerunner, but I'm not talking about fix Linphone to work or port ekiga, I'm talking about VoIP be supported in the core of the distributions, using FSO and integrate it on Paroli to be as easy to use like an standard gsm call, and the hole system can react to their events through dbus... pretty, isn't it? ;) . Who will not pay a couple of euros to have in his store a free phone able to do that... doing that :) Here is the link to the project http://cofundos.org/project.php?id=153 This is only an example, I ear about VoIP very often, and I know there will be users even companies interested if they can switch from GSM to wifi VoIP whatever an acces point is accesible for example. Well sure you get the point :) now let me address to my ... Dear Developers. Don't be shy :) if you have the knowledge/time to provide a solution that fulfill requirements just tell us to know if we can afford it or not, the proposed example http://cofundos.org/project.php?id=153 is not a one day job i think will be quite amount of work, so I invite development companies or groups to make offers too, taking in count the solution has to be Free software and able to go upstream. Also I invite all developers with a project in mind or even already started but pending to finish/improve by lack of founds, may be you find people interested in invest part of that money Dear colleges users , There are only about 25 distributors but we are are about thousands users, our support to those initiative we like is vital for them and now we can have the opportunity to request features with more than complains :) even an euro to demonstrate interest about a project or feature requested will help to make it real quicker than waiting for it and you will have the satisfaction to being part of the solution instead of only an spectator. Well... enough words for one post... I will be glad to receive your comments Regards -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thinking deeply about cofundos.org
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:11 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Dear colleges distributors, Due Risto and Aapo initiative about programing contest, and the post of Risto about Pay for your Open Source software! in his blog makes me realize than people like me with not enough time/skills to drive a moderate/high complex software project to success, can collaborate in more than just test or spread this software.Cofundos.org will help to boost any idea you have in mind and give a opportunity to earn some money to people that have this time/skills you not have, but It's even greater than this , and this is the main reason I wrote this message, we can JOIN efforts easily . This is a great initiative and I have an idea for a feature - perhaps PIM in SHR can be a Cofundos project? SHR seems quite promising but my only reservation is that I can't easily import my contacts, for example by sending it via bluetooth. See - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stable_Hybrid_Release#Address_Book Shall we make SHR PIM enhancements a project on Cofundos? Cheers, Fred. We are about 25 distributors around the world with different sizes and points of view but surely we have a lot of coincidences on what software we want to be able to offer to our costumers in the Neo, and surely we receive from costumers the same kind of inputs about what they want. Surelly most of you, like me, doesn't have enough resources to hire a developer or to move enough community critical mass to fulfill some of this needs alone... I don't know what you feel about this but for me is a very frustrating situation. But now the great news, we don't have to stay alone in that situation :), initiative like cofundos can help us to share does needs and if enough resources are joined and I'm not just talking about money, each of us reach developers dificult or imposible to reach by the others for example, some of those needs can be successfully achieved. To preach with examples I have started one of those projects myself Voip on Neo Freerunner, but I'm not talking about fix Linphone to work or port ekiga, I'm talking about VoIP be supported in the core of the distributions, using FSO and integrate it on Paroli to be as easy to use like an standard gsm call, and the hole system can react to their events through dbus... pretty, isn't it? ;) . Who will not pay a couple of euros to have in his store a free phone able to do that... doing that :) Here is the link to the project http://cofundos.org/project.php?id=153 This is only an example, I ear about VoIP very often, and I know there will be users even companies interested if they can switch from GSM to wifi VoIP whatever an acces point is accesible for example. Well sure you get the point :) now let me address to my ... Dear Developers. Don't be shy :) if you have the knowledge/time to provide a solution that fulfill requirements just tell us to know if we can afford it or not, the proposed example http://cofundos.org/project.php?id=153 is not a one day job i think will be quite amount of work, so I invite development companies or groups to make offers too, taking in count the solution has to be Free software and able to go upstream. Also I invite all developers with a project in mind or even already started but pending to finish/improve by lack of founds, may be you find people interested in invest part of that money Dear colleges users , There are only about 25 distributors but we are are about thousands users, our support to those initiative we like is vital for them and now we can have the opportunity to request features with more than complains :) even an euro to demonstrate interest about a project or feature requested will help to make it real quicker than waiting for it and you will have the satisfaction to being part of the solution instead of only an spectator. Well... enough words for one post... I will be glad to receive your comments Regards -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] wireless script not correct
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:03 AM, HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote: wow. superb! On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:07 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:10:34 +0100 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: snip ok, I managed to create the ticket now, and I also fixed the script. Now dhcp works ok for wireless, and routing and resolv.conf are now being set correctly for dhcp as well. Proof: the integrated webserver works ok now, yey! And the software packages work now as well, etc ... (well ok, not much proof here, but see the ticket http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/6 and try it out for yourself). Franky nothing to it :-) I also posted some other tickets with small fixes. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
sorry, but this is way over the top ... personal insults don't belong to a public mailing list. Please stop this, Dale. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.netwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorn Potter wrote: Dale Maggee wrote: Aah, the fun continues... [snip utter nonsense] Utter nonsense, again, including questions which you persist in ignoring, and discussion of the issues with your shit software which you categorically refuse to discuss or even acknowledge exist. http://www.netalert.gov.au/advice/behaviour/netiquette_emoticons/What_is_netiquette.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette So... you can copy and paste a web address, good for you! I guess, it *is* more than I would have expected from someone of your special-ness. Were the people at the spastic society proud of you for accomplishing that? did they give you a gold star? You *really are* a fucking retard, you know that, don't you? from the netalert website that YOU LINKED TO: Examples of netiquette include: * responding appropriately to requests Congratulations, Lorn, you complete fucking idiot, you fucking liar, you absolute wanker - You've just demonstrated, once again, for the entire world's verification, that you're the stupidest motherfucker on it. I can't believe you would link to a page which confirms that you broke netiquette first, and that any response telling you that you're a fucking liar, or a fucking wanker, or a fucking retard is entirely justified and warranted. Actually, I can believe it - why stop contradicting yourself just because you look like a retard? I have links, too! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deception http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_(usage)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_%28usage%29 Given that you insist on ignoring the issues at hand: Wow, I have to give you credit - you certainly are good at completely ignoring damning evidence and not answering questions directly put to you multiple times. Ever considered a career in politics? You'd fit in really well there! How Long does it take to type your address on your freerunner, using the methods described...errr...three(?) emails ago? and now, how long does it take on your PC? How long did it take you to type up my sample sms on your FR running QTe? and why did you do that Many Times, as you claim? seems like wasted effort to me... [snip useless drivel] This useless drivel Lorn refers to is me demonstrating that Lorn is either lying or a complete retard. The fact that he refuses to even acknowledge this and attempted to trim it from all further correspondence indicates to me that it's malice, not stupidity. I'll restore this in the vain hope that perhaps he might address it, rather than ignore it as he has consistently done all afternoon: No one said to use the little qwerty keyboard with fingers. I BEG YOUR PARDON?!?!? Lorn Potter wrote at 12:41pm: Then you can easily switch to the qwerty keyboard. Lorn Potter wrote at 12:41pm: You can even use this with big fingers and hit in between letters and it will still work (suggestively) well. Now, we were discussing the predictive keyboard, and you told me that I could easily switch to the qwerty keyboard... which qwerty keyboard were you referring to, exactly, if not the little qwerty keyboard? There are only two: the predictive keyboard and the qwerty keyboard. Unless you're trying to tell me that there's a difference between 'keyboard' and 'docked keyboard'. I call bullshit. Lorn, you're either completely full of shit, or you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Due to the old adage never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity, I'll give you an opportunity to publicly apologise and explain exactly what the hell you're on about... the way it works, because IT DOESN'T WORK THE WAY YOU'RE SAYING. It does. No, it doesn't. You're either a liar or a fucking retard. I lean towards Liar. If you're a liar, you're *also* a fucking retard - when lying, the non-retard would come up with a *credible* lie, which you're not even bothering with... Or is it that you're just not clever enough? You have absolutely no idea which parts of Qtopia I worked on, so you cannot say I have done a bad job, when in fact, I had no contact with this code. I didn't say Bad, I said shit, which is worse than bad. and, Yeah, I can: Watch me: You've done a shit job. Regardless of any contact you may or may not have had with the code, or your contributions or lack thereof to qtopia, you have done a shit job. Firstly, where's the QTe release that was coming in December? why such inadequate communication? You've done a shit Job. Secondly, you've done an absolutely abysmal job today. Refusing to
Re: Thinking deeply about cofundos.org
On Tuesday 17 March 2009 11:13:18 Friedrich Clausen wrote: Shall we make SHR PIM enhancements a project on Cofundos? While I think this cofundus.org thing is a really good idea to push development forward, I think we should not create tons of projects right now. This will split up developer resources and founds again while we are trying to join them. Anyways, the lack of PIM in SHR is the only reason why I'm not using it on a regular basis. It would be very nice to have it. Perhaps we should create a doodle poll to determine what cofundus projects are the most needed/wanted :) Well, I think we should see how this turns out. Wait for the wiki-page, Risto's contest results etc and see how many users, developers, distributors etc are joining. Then we get a better feeling about how many founds still make sense. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Terminal
I tried running it from console. Only Segmentation Fault printed at
the end. I will try gdb later.
Attached is a patch that fixes the segfault.
Radek
diff --git a/src/3rdparty/applications/qterminal/MainWindow.cpp b/src/3rdparty/applications/qterminal/MainWindow.cpp
index 48c686a..ce2 100644
--- a/src/3rdparty/applications/qterminal/MainWindow.cpp
+++ b/src/3rdparty/applications/qterminal/MainWindow.cpp
@@ -135,7 +135,9 @@ void MainWindow::finished(QObject *obj)
void MainWindow::currentChanged(int)
{
- tabs-currentWidget()-setFocus(Qt::OtherFocusReason);
+ if(tabs-currentIndex() = 0) {
+tabs-currentWidget()-setFocus(Qt::OtherFocusReason);
+ }
}
void MainWindow::newSession()
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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
Updated with a new version (0.11) that fixes these SHR launching issues. Thanks for the feedback. There was no change to any of the proper code - so if you could get it to run yesterday the new version won't change anything for you: http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.11_armv4t.ipk More info, and a call for help from Debian users on my blog: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/gvsig_mobile_0_11_released (the opkg repo has been updated, so users of that can simply opkg update opkg upgrade) Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/16 Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yorick Moko ha scritto: error on shr-testing: r...@om-gta02 ~/.mokometeo $ opkg install jamvm libswt3.4-gtk-java classpath-gtk classpath-awt gpsd http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) Package fso-gpsd is already installed in root. Installing gvsigmobile (0.1) to root... Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) Collected errors: * Cannot find package jamvm. * Cannot find package libswt3.4-gtk-java. * Cannot find package classpath-gtk. * Cannot find package classpath-awt. * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gvsigmobile: * jamvm * libswt3.4-gtk-java * classpath-gtk * classpath-awt * On SHR-testing it works for me: opkg --force-depends install http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk After the installation, there's no icon on Illume desktop. If I try gvsig from terminal, it answers me not found. I've started it with the followin command (on one line): jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card I've found it in /usr/bin/gvsig. I want to give my public appreciation and thanks to GvSig mobile developer(s) and to Oxford Archaeologic for bringing us such beautiful app. I'm testing it on my shapefiles of Italian archaeologic sites (near Bari, to be precise). Thanks again :D - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkm+acAACgkQRi2TsGSC4FaE/ACeIBPc8VAmyL1sa/4/mvBgZ/9U j5wAn2bH/FmiHohnwXpzJ8Fqe560QZLT =ttPT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thinking deeply about cofundos.org
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: On Tuesday 17 March 2009 11:13:18 Friedrich Clausen wrote: Shall we make SHR PIM enhancements a project on Cofundos? While I think this cofundus.org thing is a really good idea to push development forward, I think we should not create tons of projects right now. This will split up developer resources and founds again while we are trying to join them. A valid point. Anyways, the lack of PIM in SHR is the only reason why I'm not using it on a regular basis. It would be very nice to have it. Perhaps we should create a doodle poll to determine what cofundus projects are the most needed/wanted :) Good idea - this will give us an indication of what needs to be focused on in a general way too. Beyond the PIM in SHR I can suggest Glamo accelerated X server (underway as I understand) to be in the Doodle poll. Cheers, Fred. Well, I think we should see how this turns out. Wait for the wiki-page, Risto's contest results etc and see how many users, developers, distributors etc are joining. Then we get a better feeling about how many founds still make sense. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTExtended] Qt Extended is still going
Hi Andrew, I'm anxious to test out any patches you might have ... Franky On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:02 AM, andrew howlett and...@howlett.net wrote: HouYu Li: Thanks for setting up a repository. I'll try to upload my mp3 clock patches this weekend. radagast. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QTExtended--Qt-Extended-is-still-going-tp2465288p2471285.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Friendly chess program
looks quite good, the right panels can be reduced in width withouth much impact it seems 2009/3/17 Aapo Rantalainen aapo.rantalai...@gmail.com: Maemo has good chess (uses gnuchess). Look screenshot: http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/maemo_chess1.png (800x480px) ps 1538 user 1448 SW /usr/bin/chess_startup /usr/share/osso-chess-ui/osso_ 1539 user 22928 SW /usr/bin/chess_startup 1542 user 1448 SW /usr/bin/chessui 1543 user 24020 SW /usr/bin/chessui 1544 user 10752 SW /usr/games/gnuchess xboard apt-cache policy osso-chess-ui - 1.5.15-0 apt-cache policy gnuchess - 5.07-7osso1 I think this migth be a good start: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1/free/o/osso-chess-ui/ http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1/free/g/gnuchess/ -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to record calls
I have started a competition for creating a Call Recorder cum Dictaphone Application for the Freerunner on cofundus.org http://www.cofundos.org/project.php?id=154 This is based on the ideas given in Pander's mail at the top of this thread. Feedback is welcome Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New Openmoko application contest
I have started a competition for creating a Call Recorder cum Dictaphone Application for the Freerunner on cofundus.org http://www.cofundos.org/project.php?id=154 This is based on the ideas given in Pander's mail at the top of this thread. Feedback is welcome Rakshat PS - My apologies if this is a duplicate mail for some people. Felt it may be better to start a new topic for this contest. -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:06:20PM +0100, Tilman Baumann wrote: Hi, I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency services for location. I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de (European, websites in other languages should be available) A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it. I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format. Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have. PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter if the number is a emergency number in tie state. that depends on what the network operator does. The SIM card has a list of emergency numbers. If you call one of those numbers, or make an emergency call without a SIM card inserted, the phone will do itts request for a physical channel indicating its a EMERGENCY call, and then use EMERGENCY SETUP instead of SETUP, so the network can decide to rather kill somebody elses call and free resources for your emergency call in case the cell is otherwise full. that's at least the theory from the protocol side. the practical implementation can look quite different. The German government e.g. now legally mandates that an operator will refuse to take emergency calls from phones with no SIM card inserted. regards, -- - Harald Welte lafo...@openmoko.org http://openmoko.org/ Software for the world's first truly open Free Software mobile phone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
it seems my phone is java enabled...i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -cp go.jar org.test.go Hello class: java.lang.Class I installed the new version of gvsig and now i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Log file: /usr/share/gv-om/log/1237295403472.gvsig-mobile.log.txt java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3428 or swt-gtk in swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:233) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:151) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.C.clinit(C.java:21) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:63) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:54) at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.clinit(Display.java:128) at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.GvsigMobileApp.execute(GvsigMobileApp.java:100) at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:129) so i installed libswt3.4-gtk-jni and now it works it didn't work without that file y On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello Yorick. I understand then that your phone is not Java-enabled right now? Can you copy the attached 'go.jar' to your phone and type from the same folder: jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go This what I get: r...@om-gta02:~# jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go Hello class: java.lang.Class r...@om-gta02:~# What do you get? Regards, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio --- Prodevelop SL, Valencia (España) 0° 22' 49.62 W, 39° 28' 25.45 N Tlf.: 96.351.06.12 -- Fax: 96.351.09.68 http://www.prodevelop.es --- -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org on behalf of Yorick Moko Sent: Mon 16/03/2009 18:26 To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko thanks for your help, but i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install cacao -force-depends Installing cacao (0.99.3-r5.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/cacao_0.99.3-r5.1_armv4t.ipk Installing classpath (0.97.2-r8.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk Installing classpath-common (0.97.2-r8.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath-common_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk Configuring cacao update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/java to /usr/bin/cacao Configuring classpath Configuring classpath-common Collected errors: * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for cacao: * libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) * libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) * r...@om-gta02 ~ $ cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/car Absurd stack bottom value Aborted btw: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_installed |grep libgcc libgcc1 - 4.1.2-r19 - On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello, Yorick, You can also try cacao: opkg install cacao then: cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card Regsrd, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Yorick Moko Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:45 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko still nobody getting (on shr-testing) the following error? r...@om-gta02 /etc/init.d $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Stopping freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: stopped process in pidfile '/var/run/fso-gpsd.pid' (pid 1442) (done) Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: (ok) Exception occurred while VM initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class using the terminal command I found in these e-mails i also get the same error: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card Exception occurred while VM initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class y On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Yes, sorry, I read about that only yesterday. I think the first line in the gvsig.sh (restarting the Gpsd) is probably unnecessary in all cases. Regards, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de kimaidou Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:32 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko Normallu on last SHR testing, the gpsd is automatically started for every application using it. It is so with tangogps for example. 2009/3/16 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com Great news :) SHR users just have to remember to start gpsd if you want to see where
Re: New Openmoko application contest
count with same offer as for the other contest from tuxbrain, A free leather case[1] for the winner and if it's a group a 5 euros discount for any additional case you want. [1]http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=42language=en 2009/3/17 rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com: I have started a competition for creating a Call Recorder cum Dictaphone Application for the Freerunner on cofundus.org http://www.cofundos.org/project.php?id=154 This is based on the ideas given in Pander's mail at the top of this thread. Feedback is welcome Rakshat PS - My apologies if this is a duplicate mail for some people. Felt it may be better to start a new topic for this contest. -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
Hi Yorick, Glad you got it to work! libswt3.4-gtk-jni is a dependency of libswt3.4-gtk-java, so that would get understandably upset without it. We don't specify that you must have ibswt3.4-gtk-jni as it is (usually) installed when you install the specified libswt3.4-gtk-java. I can explicitly add it to the dependency list of the next version to make sure we don't have this problem again. Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/17 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: it seems my phone is java enabled...i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -cp go.jar org.test.go Hello class: java.lang.Class I installed the new version of gvsig and now i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Log file: /usr/share/gv-om/log/1237295403472.gvsig-mobile.log.txt java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3428 or swt-gtk in swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:233) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:151) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.C.clinit(C.java:21) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:63) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:54) at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.clinit(Display.java:128) at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.GvsigMobileApp.execute(GvsigMobileApp.java:100) at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:129) so i installed libswt3.4-gtk-jni and now it works it didn't work without that file y On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello Yorick. I understand then that your phone is not Java-enabled right now? Can you copy the attached 'go.jar' to your phone and type from the same folder: jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go This what I get: r...@om-gta02:~# jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go Hello class: java.lang.Class r...@om-gta02:~# What do you get? Regards, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio --- Prodevelop SL, Valencia (España) 0° 22' 49.62 W, 39° 28' 25.45 N Tlf.: 96.351.06.12 -- Fax: 96.351.09.68 http://www.prodevelop.es --- -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org on behalf of Yorick Moko Sent: Mon 16/03/2009 18:26 To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko thanks for your help, but i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install cacao -force-depends Installing cacao (0.99.3-r5.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/cacao_0.99.3-r5.1_armv4t.ipk Installing classpath (0.97.2-r8.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk Installing classpath-common (0.97.2-r8.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath-common_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk Configuring cacao update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/java to /usr/bin/cacao Configuring classpath Configuring classpath-common Collected errors: * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for cacao: * libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) * libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) * r...@om-gta02 ~ $ cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/car Absurd stack bottom value Aborted btw: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_installed |grep libgcc libgcc1 - 4.1.2-r19 - On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello, Yorick, You can also try cacao: opkg install cacao then: cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card Regsrd, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Yorick Moko Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:45 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko still nobody getting (on shr-testing) the following error? r...@om-gta02 /etc/init.d $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Stopping freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: stopped process in pidfile '/var/run/fso-gpsd.pid' (pid 1442) (done) Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: (ok) Exception occurred while VM initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class using the terminal command I found in these e-mails i also get the same error: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card Exception occurred while VM initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class y On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Yes, sorry, I read about that only yesterday. I think the first line in the gvsig.sh (restarting the Gpsd) is probably unnecessary in all cases. Regards, Juan Lucas
Re: GPS emergency call standards
Harald Welte wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:06:20PM +0100, Tilman Baumann wrote: Hi, I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency services for location. I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de (European, websites in other languages should be available) I have asked them. They are basically not prepared to share any information on details. It is somehow a service they provide, but how it is implemented is unknown. Reply to my question if I might have some information to make my phone use their service, the answer was 'there are many phones which support us...' Yes, and I want to become one of them. But this is to much to ask from them. Stupid fuckers. I'm sure they did not even understand what I was asking. :-/ eCall seems to be a more open system, but still no real informations to find. And it as a slightly different focus too. A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it. I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format. Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have. PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter if the number is a emergency number in tie state. that depends on what the network operator does. Yep, but there seems to be some international agreement on the significance of 112. I don't have any quote yet, but as far as I understood it is even required to by the GSM standards. But that might be wrong. The SIM card has a list of emergency numbers. If you call one of those numbers, or make an emergency call without a SIM card inserted, the phone will do itts request for a physical channel indicating its a EMERGENCY call, and then use EMERGENCY SETUP instead of SETUP, so the network can decide to rather kill somebody elses call and free resources for your emergency call in case the cell is otherwise full. That would be a great thing to have indeed. This needs to be included in the (FSO) dialer/contacts framework. Including the other special numbers the sim has, like ones own. -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
Seems that this hasn't yet been 100% solved. I'm using QT Extended Improved 20090316 and my friend reported hearing bad echo when he called me today. I'm pretty sure that it was the first call since boot, so it's likely that none of the places in the code that the echo suppression is activated had been called by that stage. -I -- http://darkstarshout.blogspot.com/ -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Erik Raymond, 2005 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
Seems that this hasn't yet been 100% solved. I'm using QT Extended Improved 20090316 and my friend reported hearing bad echo when he called me today. I'm pretty sure that it was the first call since boot, so it's likely that none of the places in the code that the echo suppression is activated had been called by that stage. -I Hi Ian, did you built it yourself or are you using binary from somewhere? Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
Yep, but there seems to be some international agreement on the significance of 112. at least in all states of the eu 112 has to work -- the last member to implement it only recently was bulgaria (see http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Eine-Notrufnummer-fuer-alle-27-EU-Laender--/meldung/132427). though, in germany in future emergency calls are possible only _with_ a sim card inserted (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Kein-Notruf-ohne-SIM-Karte--/meldung/132539). inhowfar that is a way to remedy the alleged misuses of emergency numbers seems rather questionable -- will probably kill more people than it saves. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
List of OpenMoko distributions
Q1: Where does one find a list of all current OpenMoko distributions? Q2: Is there an effort to make one of these distributions THE production version that ships on new phones after some date? Is that date established or up in the air? Q3: if one orders a Freerunner today, what code does it ship with? Observation: GTA02 has been shipping for about 9 months. It's not unreasonable to expect that stable, fully functional code will be available Real Soon Now. --- Ron K. Jeffries http://blog.eronj.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: List of OpenMoko distributions
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Ron K. Jeffries rjeffr...@gmail.com wrote: Q1: Where does one find a list of all current OpenMoko distributions? look on the wiki, the link is on the mainpage: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions Q2: Is there an effort to make one of these distributions THE production version that ships on new phones after some date? Is that date established or up in the air? yes: FSO + paroli seems to be what OM is going for Q3: if one orders a Freerunner today, what code does it ship with? not sure, but i think 2008.12 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: List of OpenMoko distributions
Ron K. Jeffries ha scritto: Q1: Where does one find a list of all current OpenMoko distributions? Q2: Is there an effort to make one of these distributions THE production version that ships on new phones after some date? Is that date established or up in the air? Q3: if one orders a Freerunner today, what code does it ship with? Observation: GTA02 has been shipping for about 9 months. It's not unreasonable to expect that stable, fully functional code will be available Real Soon Now. --- Ron K. Jeffries http://blog.eronj.com A1: http://wiki.openmoko.org A2: http://wiki.openmoko.org A3: http://wiki.openmoko.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
arne anka wrote: Yep, but there seems to be some international agreement on the significance of 112. at least in all states of the eu 112 has to work -- the last member to implement it only recently was bulgaria (see http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Eine-Notrufnummer-fuer-alle-27-EU-Laender--/meldung/132427). though, in germany in future emergency calls are possible only _with_ a sim card inserted (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Kein-Notruf-ohne-SIM-Karte--/meldung/132539). inhowfar that is a way to remedy the alleged misuses of emergency numbers seems rather questionable -- will probably kill more people than it saves. Well it can go either way. Many costs are made when reacting to false calls and less resources are available for serious calls. Also, who is using a phone without a SIM card anyway? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
Well it can go either way. Many costs are made when reacting to false calls and less resources are available for serious calls. well, it fits the wet dreams of germany's current top terrorists hunter (register everyone who buys a sim card) -- and there are no numbers mentioned of abuse. Also, who is using a phone without a SIM card anyway? a lot of people have got one in the car or elsewhere exactly to make emergency calls w/o having to pay for a sim. but that's off topic. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] xfce and xglamo
I have the same set up (as described on the debian distribution wiki page and in this thread) and I haven't been able to get right click working. Also, when I went to look at the input device section of my xorg.conf file I realized that my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is totally empty...Is this normal? How should right click behave with libgtkstylus and xglamo? Thanks. -Greg Afaik, the file with the preferences is .xsessionrc, just try renaming your existing file, it should work. d On 3/9/09, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net wrote: Davide Scaini wrote: for the right click: try make a symbolic link (ln -s) between .xinitrc and .xsessionrc... I have a working right click with xglamo (but surprisingly i can't see great improvements between fbdev and xlamo... is really that fast?) In my homedir /root i only got .xsession [1] and no .xsessionrc file. Should i link to this file instead? And should the link be .xinitrc or .xinit (without rc because my session file is named without rc)? The subjective feeling for the xglamo speed is a bit smoother than with fbdev but i could imagine it. :) The most important part is that xrandr works with xglamo why i want to use it. Ciao, Rainer [1] .xsession content: #/bin/sh . ~/bashrc export GTK_MODULE=libgtkstylus.so exec startxcfe4 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] xfce and xglamo
Also, when I went to look at the input device section of my xorg.conf file I realized that my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is totally empty...Is this normal? How should right click behave with libgtkstylus and xglamo? with recent X.org, the xorg.conf is mostly generated automatically on X startup. you should need to add something only whne the auto-detection does not work as expected. as for libgtkstylus.so: that's beyond scope of xorg.conf, only the tslib input driver has to be configured in xorg.conf. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buying a FreeRunner with the buzz-fix on it (GTA02 A7)
2009/3/4 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: so much for my schedules. There were some issues with ALSA states. so manufacturing got put on hold. then Chinese new year. I'll have an update shortly on A7. How shortly? :) (two weeks now) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: List of OpenMoko distributions
On Mar 17, 2009, at 07:40 , Yorick Moko wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Ron K. Jeffries rjeffr...@gmail.com wrote: Q1: Where does one find a list of all current OpenMoko distributions? look on the wiki, the link is on the mainpage: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions Q2: Is there an effort to make one of these distributions THE production version that ships on new phones after some date? Is that date established or up in the air? yes: FSO + paroli seems to be what OM is going for Q3: if one orders a Freerunner today, what code does it ship with? not sure, but i think 2008.12 Actually, if you look at the Distributions link quoted above, the first sentence of Choosing a Distribution says: Official/current. As of December 2008, the phones ship with Om 2007.2. It is not supported by Openmoko Inc. anymore. The branch currently supported by Openmoko Inc. is Om 2008.12 Update, which is the second minor upgrade of Om 2008.8 (the version formerly named ASU). I can confirm that as of 1/31/09 (when I bought my GTA02 AKA FreeRunner AKA FR) this is still correct. I would expect a newly purchased FreeRunner to have either 2007.2 or 2008.12 depending on how quickly your vendor works through its backstock. ---Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] xfce and xglamo
Also, when I went to look at the input device section of my xorg.conf file I realized that my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is totally empty...Is this normal? How should right click behave with libgtkstylus and xglamo? with recent X.org, the xorg.conf is mostly generated automatically on X startup. you should need to add something only whne the auto-detection does not work as expected. Ok - thats reassuring. as for libgtkstylus.so: that's beyond scope of xorg.conf, only the tslib input driver has to be configured in xorg.conf. Has anyone been able to get right click working instructions on the wiki page for the debian distribution? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
On Mar 17, 2009, at 07:57 , arne anka wrote: Well it can go either way. Many costs are made when reacting to false calls and less resources are available for serious calls. well, it fits the wet dreams of germany's current top terrorists hunter (register everyone who buys a sim card) -- and there are no numbers mentioned of abuse. That would explain why I had such problems getting a SIM card during my recent trip to Europe. I knew it was some sort of overreaction like that. *sigh*. Your government learns too well from ours :) The one good thing that came out of the whole mess was that it pointed out that the majority of my SIM problems during the trip were political/bureaucratic and not due to an intrinsic problem with the FR. -Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware mumble
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:53:05 -0700 Ron K. Jeffries rjeffr...@gmail.com wrote: --snip-- I really think that rather then working on GTA03, the openmoko team should iron out all the little bugs and make sure there is software available, that makes the phone rock-solid. If not, then I don't see anyone, who would like to buy the new phone. All the geeks already have GTA02 and all the rest don't want an unstable platform. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Kernel 2.6.28 (still) not running on my Freerunner
Hello, Today I tried again to flash the latest images, kernel and u-boot from the downloadsite of OpenMoko [1]. I have downloaded: - fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.jffs2 - uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0 +f19f259d3c1afde8eae53983fd19f61831927413-r2-om-gta02.bin - u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1 +gitr650149a53dbdd48bf6dfef90930c8ab182adb512-r1.bin and flashed them to my Freerunner, and rebooted. As always with kernel 2.6.28 the phone is dead after the message Starting kernel I used neocon to reset to the default environment, but it doesn't matter. How can I trace the problem? Thanks [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090317/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel 2.6.28 (still) not running on my Freerunner
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:32:14 +0100 E. Boer edbo.des...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Today I tried again to flash the latest images, kernel and u-boot from the downloadsite of OpenMoko [1]. I have downloaded: - fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.jffs2 - uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0 +f19f259d3c1afde8eae53983fd19f61831927413-r2-om-gta02.bin - u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1 +gitr650149a53dbdd48bf6dfef90930c8ab182adb512-r1.bin and flashed them to my Freerunner, and rebooted. As always with kernel 2.6.28 the phone is dead after the message Starting kernel I used neocon to reset to the default environment, but it doesn't matter. How can I trace the problem? tell us the commands you used to flash the phone, I expect a problem there. And also the output from each of those commands. Also, make sure you flashed the phone while booted in NOR. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware mumble
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Yogiz yog...@gmail.com wrote: I really think that rather then working on GTA03, the openmoko team should iron out all the little bugs and make sure there is software available, that makes the phone rock-solid. If not, then I don't see anyone, who would like to buy the new phone. All the geeks already have GTA02 and all the rest don't want an unstable platform. This may be true, but with the amount of people within the community working on more and more stable versions of the software to go onto the phone, it's only advantageous for Openmoko to focus more on a stable hardware platform. Yes, I'm sure they know about the echo problem, and the buzzing and all of the little quirks that have come up. But how are they going to sell a truly stable phone without building a newer one? We can't just keep applying fix after fix to the phone, eventually, the phone will run out of room and a new phone will be required. Personally, I can't wait for GTA03 to come out. Any design aspects that could be revealed would be a great little teaser, but just the fact that they are working on a better phone, I'm happy with tinkering with the software on my end. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel 2.6.28 (still) not running on my Freerunner
On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 20:40 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:32:14 +0100 E. Boer edbo.des...@gmail.com wrote: How can I trace the problem? tell us the commands you used to flash the phone, I expect a problem there. And also the output from each of those commands. Also, make sure you flashed the phone while booted in NOR. I used the dfu-util on the cli. e.g. ./dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-2.6.28-stable-xx-om-gta02.bin [Kernel:] Opening USB Device 0x1d50:0x5119... Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request... Resetting USB... Opening USB Device... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=15, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=kernel Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 bytes_per_hash=37772 Starting download: [##] finished! state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present Done! Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode [Rootfs:] Opening USB Device 0x1d50:0x5119... Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request... Resetting USB... Opening USB Device... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=18, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=rootfs Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 bytes_per_hash=1814036 Starting download: [##] finished! state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present Done! Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode The strangest thing is that kernel 2.6.24 is working without any problem and flashed with the same commands. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
Dale Maggee wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd suggest you filter out this conversation if you're not interested. This discussion *is* actually leading somewhere, though: Lorn is digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. And I'm amazed he hasn't just given up and said something like OK, you're right but I'm not going to do anything about it. If not only for appearances! To debates someone's opinion, especially when you _know_ their position is firm, is just ludicrous and even more so when the case put forward is completely valid. Besides contributing to a conversation no company in their right mind would approve of. Speaking of which, you mustn't work for Hutchison ... or you would have run into plenty of Lorns by now :). If you do, you're a rare one. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Franky, As I said to others, If you don't want to read it, filter out this thread. Personal insults are completely valid and infact necessary when someone provokes me by lying to me and/or being an idiot. Personal attacks are appropriate and warranted in a public forum in this case, because Lorn is trying to spread mistruth in said public forum, and refuses to even discuss the issues, hence he should be shouted out of it. Which is what I'll be doing from now on - any message sent by Lorn to this mailing list from now on will receive a reply indicating that Lorn is a liar and not to be trusted, with links to evidence of him lying. Interestingly enough, this isn't the first time Lorn has been called out for publicly lying: http://zecke.blogspot.com/2007/07/lovely-respond-to-lorn-potter-of.html Feel free to start with some personal attacks of your own now... ;) Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: sorry, but this is way over the top ... personal insults don't belong to a public mailing list. Please stop this, Dale. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJwB9gFbVnQRV3OEYRAs3hAJ4uY1V97Tnpbsa4Krv9xf7W+af76wCfRKId haRfH8qsUi/F2KZVRdGxcTY= =/4v3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, personally, I'd recommend you do it by the email subject rather than sender - there's a chance I might say something useful to you in another conversation... ...Lorn won't, though, cuz he's a liar - filtering out by his email address is probably a wise move. Russell Steicke wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:15:53PM +0900, Russell Steicke wrote: :0 * ^From: (Dale Maggee|Lorn Potter) |/dev/null Oops... :0 * ^From: (Dale Maggee|Lorn Potter) /dev/null ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJwCGMFbVnQRV3OEYRAiqFAKCRFVgxHxrWT9AUBObIw/dwCGhYSgCdG/tS owLgCWzX3rPJfB2qh4n9snA= =JoQT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: Dale Maggee wrote: This discussion *is* actually leading somewhere, though: Lorn is digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. And I'm amazed he hasn't just given up and said something like OK, you're right but I'm not going to do anything about it. If not only for appearances! To debates someone's opinion, especially when you _know_ their position is firm, is just ludicrous and even more so when the case put forward is completely valid. Yeah, it's kinda scary. If Lorn had simply acknowledged the issue as valid, this debate would have been over at least 24 hours and 100,000 words ago. Instead, He's managed to initiate a flame war. But then, I don't know if he knows that my position is valid, really - I don't think he's actually reading my emails. If he was, surely by now he would have just run the experiment I asked and reported the times... surely that's easier than consistently ignoring a question I have directly asked five times now... but no. As far as I'm concerned there are two possible reasons for this: He's either not really reading my emails, or he's trying to provoke me. If he's out to provoke me, then mission accomplished. This is not something I would choose to do from my work email address, though. Besides contributing to a conversation no company in their right mind would approve of. Yeah. Sending that kind of crap from his company address, and signing it with a company signature is really scary - is he providing Trolltech / Nokia's official position with regards to this? he is their official representative on this mailing list... Coincidentally enough, minutes after I finished typing up my complaint to Nokia yesterday, I saw a slashdot article come up on my RSS reader: Nokia to slash 1700 jobs... Speaking of which, you mustn't work for Hutchison ... or you would have run into plenty of Lorns by now :). Nope. I don't usually run into these guys that often, perhaps they hear me coming and scatter like the cockroaches they are. When I do run into them, I tend to just bulldoze over them by demonstrating their incompetence. Which is what it boils down to, really - - Lorn is obviously incompetent to do the job he's doing, or pretending to do. People like these don't deserve employment, certainly not in a technical field. As far as I'm concerned, Lorn isn't even qualified to serve me burgers at McDonalds - you need to provide a public face for that too. - -Dale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJwCTCFbVnQRV3OEYRAu47AJ0VS+nuUqYcy1CJ+rb1uvhapXavfQCgrTgE cvWLYXY3HzhjGq78dFCCaag= =LRLl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
I have the same on shr-testing - wasnt installed by default with the other packages so should be a dependency somewhere. BillK On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 13:44 +, Joseph Reeves wrote: Hi Yorick, Glad you got it to work! libswt3.4-gtk-jni is a dependency of libswt3.4-gtk-java, so that would get understandably upset without it. We don't specify that you must have ibswt3.4-gtk-jni as it is (usually) installed when you install the specified libswt3.4-gtk-java. I can explicitly add it to the dependency list of the next version to make sure we don't have this problem again. Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/17 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: it seems my phone is java enabled...i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -cp go.jar org.test.go Hello class: java.lang.Class I installed the new version of gvsig and now i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Log file: /usr/share/gv-om/log/1237295403472.gvsig-mobile.log.txt java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3428 or swt-gtk in swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:233) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:151) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.C.clinit(C.java:21) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:63) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:54) at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.clinit(Display.java:128) at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.GvsigMobileApp.execute(GvsigMobileApp.java:100) at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:129) so i installed libswt3.4-gtk-jni and now it works it didn't work without that file y On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello Yorick. I understand then that your phone is not Java-enabled right now? Can you copy the attached 'go.jar' to your phone and type from the same folder: jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go This what I get: r...@om-gta02:~# jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go Hello class: java.lang.Class r...@om-gta02:~# What do you get? Regards, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio --- Prodevelop SL, Valencia (España) 0° 22' 49.62 W, 39° 28' 25.45 N Tlf.: 96.351.06.12 -- Fax: 96.351.09.68 http://www.prodevelop.es --- -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org on behalf of Yorick Moko Sent: Mon 16/03/2009 18:26 To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko thanks for your help, but i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install cacao -force-depends Installing cacao (0.99.3-r5.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/cacao_0.99.3-r5.1_armv4t.ipk Installing classpath (0.97.2-r8.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk Installing classpath-common (0.97.2-r8.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath-common_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk Configuring cacao update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/java to /usr/bin/cacao Configuring classpath Configuring classpath-common Collected errors: * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for cacao: * libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) * libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) * r...@om-gta02 ~ $ cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/car Absurd stack bottom value Aborted btw: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_installed |grep libgcc libgcc1 - 4.1.2-r19 - On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello, Yorick, You can also try cacao: opkg install cacao then: cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card Regsrd, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Yorick Moko Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:45 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko still nobody getting (on shr-testing) the following error? r...@om-gta02 /etc/init.d $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Stopping freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: stopped process in pidfile '/var/run/fso-gpsd.pid' (pid 1442) (done) Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: (ok) Exception occurred while VM initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class using the terminal command I found in these e-mails i also get the same error: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card Exception occurred while VM initialising.
Re: [QtExtended] Terminal
Hi, Radek, patch committed. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: I tried running it from console. Only Segmentation Fault printed at the end. I will try gdb later. Attached is a patch that fixes the segfault. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QtExtended] Terminal
Hello. The only time I have seen the JamVM (Java) crash on Om 2008.9, I also saw the 'Segmentation fault' error message. If that ever happens again, is there somewhere in the phone a log file that I might send to the list? Regards, Juan Lucas -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org on behalf of HouYu Li Sent: Wed 18/03/2009 0:23 To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: [QtExtended] Terminal Hi, Radek, patch committed. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: I tried running it from console. Only Segmentation Fault printed at the end. I will try gdb later. Attached is a patch that fixes the segfault. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
Hi, Is it fixed on the lates (13/6) improved release? I just re-flashed my Freerunner, but the mediaplayer cannot play the *.oga (*.ogg are not recognized).. TIA chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Anyone-have-ogg-support-in-qt-extended-4.4.3---tp2455815p2494761.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner ships with unsupported release? Why?
The Wiki says, in part: Choosing a distribution Official/current. As of December 2008, the phones ship with Om 2007.2 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2007.2. It is not supported by Openmoko Inc. anymore. The branch currently supported by Openmoko Inc. is Om 2008.12 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.12_Update ~~ I'm puzzled why OpenMoko ships phones with a distribution that's no longer supported. --- Ron K. Jeffries ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
Am Do 12. März 2009 schrieb Harald Welte: the practical implementation can look quite different. The German government e.g. now legally mandates that an operator will refuse to take emergency calls from phones with no SIM card inserted. WTF, those braindead i /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner ships with unsupported release? Why?
On Mar 17, 2009, at 19:52 , Ron K. Jeffries wrote: The Wiki says, in part: Choosing a distribution Official/current. As of December 2008, the phones ship with Om 2007.2. It is not supported by Openmoko Inc. anymore. The branch currently supported by Openmoko Inc. is Om 2008.12 I would imagine that this is because, like many electronics products, the devices shipped from OM with what was the current firmware at the time, but has since been deprecated. It's difficult if not impossible to expect them to get their distributors to flash all the stock they have on their shelves to the latest version and then go back and do it again in 3 months when an even newer version is out. The distributor I bought my GTA02 from here in San Francisco is a neat little co-working space just a few blocks from my apartment. They have only a vague idea of what's in the box. Somebody knows somebody who's involved in the OM project and convinced them to become a stockist. So I had no problem paying them and getting the device from them, but they're a bunch of web designers and marketing people and it's just silly to expect them to know how to flash an embedded Linux device. My plans for the first evening i had it were to do the unboxing and then flash it to the latest firmware. Believe it or not, but this is actually a good problem to have because it indicates that OpenMoko is shipping in volume through a distributor network rather than just handfuls of systems from their own factory. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
Do you mean the snapbuild 20090316? If it's true, then we have to work on a new patch. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, xChris ch...@c-64.mobi wrote: Hi, Is it fixed on the lates (13/6) improved release? I just re-flashed my Freerunner, but the mediaplayer cannot play the *.oga (*.ogg are not recognized).. TIA chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Anyone-have-ogg-support-in-qt-extended-4.4.3---tp2455815p2494761.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
