Re: Google Summer of Code
Daniel Willmann wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i think there is none shr (or fso?) got rejected Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected. Everybody is still welcome to work on cool projects, though. :-) Are you mentoring ? ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Need help with Log Message
hi i m new comer to the openmoko community and m highly interested in it. i have flashed a new kernel in my openmoko but can not get *messages* file in my /var/log/. can any one help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Learning with flashcards - granule
Hi there, Last year I used PyFlash, but I'm not sure which distribution I was running at that time. I know it was easy to get it running, only a few chages were necesarry. I was using it for learning language at the time, so I added a line for pronunciation as well, which worked better in landscape mode for learning phrases. Cheers ezuall -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Learning-with-flashcards---granule-tp2564322p2567548.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Learning with flashcards - granule
Pander, I'll have to have a dig for the code, it won't be pretty, as I stitched it together for a quick overview of Italian before a trip last year. I don't know if the Japanese character set is supported. I'll send it through as soon as I find it, may be 24 hours though ezuall On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Pander-2 (via Nabble) ml-user+35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.comml-user%2b35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.com wrote: Hi Ezuall, Do you still have the code or the changes you applied? Could you send them to me? By the way, which language was it? If it is Japanese, I'm also interested in the data files. Thanks, Pander ezuall wrote: Hi there, Last year I used PyFlash, but I'm not sure which distribution I was running at that time. I know it was easy to get it running, only a few chages were necesarry. I was using it for learning language at the time, so I added a line for pronunciation as well, which worked better in landscape mode for learning phrases. Cheers ezuall ___ Openmoko community mailing list commun...@...http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=2567597i=0 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- This email is a reply to your post @ http://n2.nabble.com/Learning-with-flashcards---granule-tp2564322p2567597.html You can reply by email or by visting the link above. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Learning-with-flashcards---granule-tp2564322p2567609.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QT Extended Improved] patch: 0001-using-uevent-to-get-kernel-notifications-for-usb-cable-changed.txt
Hi, attached is a patch to use uevent to get kernel notifications for 'usb-cable-changed' in QtExtended on recent kernels (=2.6.28). On 'older' kernels (2.6.28), this information was comming in trough /dev/input/event4 but this is no longer working (there is a ticket for this at https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2254 ). With this patch my FR switches correctly from battery power savings scheme to online pwoer scheme, and usb networking goes up/down as expected. Same mechanism could be used to re-implement an event based neobattery. This patch should not break 2.6.24 compatibility. Cheers, Filip. From 367a7ec014442b47be615ccbde8dc7441bfb466c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Filip Onkelinx fi...@dev.linux4.be Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:22 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] using uevent to get kernel notifications for usb cable changed Signed-off-by: Filip Onkelinx fi...@dev.linux4.be --- devices/neo/server/neohardware.cpp| 79 ++ devices/neo/server/neohardware.h |6 +- 2 files changed, 85 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/devices/neo/server/neohardware.cpp b/devices/neo/server/neohardware.cpp index e259094..fca61bc 100644 --- a/devices/neo/server/neohardware.cpp +++ b/devices/neo/server/neohardware.cpp @@ -44,6 +44,16 @@ #include linux/input.h #include sys/ioctl.h +#include stdio.h +#include stdlib.h +#include string.h +#include ctype.h +#include sys/un.h +#include sys/socket.h +#include linux/types.h +#include linux/netlink.h +#include QTcpSocket +#include QtDebug QTOPIA_TASK(NeoHardware, NeoHardware); @@ -52,10 +62,31 @@ NeoHardware::NeoHardware() vsoUsbCable(/Hardware/UsbGadget), vsoNeoHardware(/Hardware/Neo) { +struct sockaddr_nl snl; adaptor = new QtopiaIpcAdaptor(QPE/NeoHardware); qLog(Hardware) neohardware; +memset(snl, 0x00, sizeof(struct sockaddr_nl)); +snl.nl_family = AF_NETLINK; +snl.nl_pid = getpid(); +snl.nl_groups = 1; +snl.nl_groups = 0x1; + +int hotplug_sock = socket(PF_NETLINK, SOCK_DGRAM, NETLINK_KOBJECT_UEVENT); +if (hotplug_sock == -1) { +qLog(Hardware) error getting uevent socket: strerror(errno); +}else{ + if ( bind(hotplug_sock, (struct sockaddr *) snl, sizeof(struct sockaddr_nl)) 0) { +qLog(Hardware) uevent bind failed: strerror(errno); +hotplug_sock = -1; + }else{ + ueventSocket = new QTcpSocket(this); + ueventSocket-setSocketDescriptor(hotplug_sock); + connect(ueventSocket, SIGNAL(readyRead()), this, SLOT(uevent())); + } +} + cableConnected(getCableStatus()); vsoPortableHandsfree.setAttribute(Present, false); @@ -77,6 +108,54 @@ NeoHardware::~NeoHardware() { } +char *NeoHardware::findAttribute(char *buf, int len, const char *token) +{ +int pos=0; + + while (poslen) + { +if(strncmp(buf[pos],token,strlen(token))==0) + return(buf[pos+strlen(token)]); +pos=pos+strlen(buf[pos])+1; + } + return(buf); +} + +void NeoHardware::uevent() +{ +#define UEVENT_BUFFER_SIZE 1024 +char buffer[UEVENT_BUFFER_SIZE]; +char *value; + + int bytesAvail = ueventSocket-bytesAvailable(); + int readCount = UEVENT_BUFFER_SIZE; + if (bytesAvail readCount) + readCount = bytesAvail; + ueventSocket-read(buffer[0],readCount); + if(strcmp(buffer,change@/class/power_supply/usb)==0) + { +value=findAttribute(buffer,readCount,POWER_SUPPLY_ONLINE=); +qDebug()usb change event; online='value'; +cableConnected(atoi(value)); + }else if(strcmp(buffer,change@/class/power_supply/ac)==0) + { +value=findAttribute(buffer,readCount,POWER_SUPPLY_ONLINE=); +qDebug()ac change event; online=value; + }else if(strcmp(buffer,change@/class/power_supply/adapter)==0) + { +value=findAttribute(buffer,readCount,POWER_SUPPLY_ONLINE=); +qDebug()power_supply change event; online=value; + }else if(strcmp(buffer,change@/class/power_supply/battery)==0) + { +value=findAttribute(buffer,readCount,POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=); +qDebug()battery change event charge%=value%; + }else if(strcmp(buffer,change@/class/switch/headset)==0) + { +value=findAttribute(buffer,readCount,SWITCH_STATE=); +qDebug()headset change event, switch_state=value; + } +} + void NeoHardware::findHardwareVersion() { QFile cpuinfo( /proc/cpuinfo); diff --git a/devices/neo/server/neohardware.h b/devices/neo/server/neohardware.h index f52b232..0d70f72 100644 --- a/devices/neo/server/neohardware.h +++ b/devices/neo/server/neohardware.h @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@ #include QObject #include QProcess +#include QTcpSocket #include qvaluespace.h #include linux/input.h @@ -48,15 +49,18 @@ private: QValueSpaceObject vsoUsbCable; QValueSpaceObject vsoNeoHardware; QtopiaIpcAdaptor *adaptor; + QTcpSocket *ueventSocket; void findHardwareVersion(); QtopiaIpcAdaptor *audioMgr; - + char *findAttribute(char *buf, int len, const char *token); + private
Re: Learning with flashcards - granule
Hi Ezuall, Do you still have the code or the changes you applied? Could you send them to me? By the way, which language was it? If it is Japanese, I'm also interested in the data files. Thanks, Pander ezuall wrote: Hi there, Last year I used PyFlash, but I'm not sure which distribution I was running at that time. I know it was easy to get it running, only a few chages were necesarry. I was using it for learning language at the time, so I added a line for pronunciation as well, which worked better in landscape mode for learning phrases. Cheers ezuall ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Learning with flashcards - granule
Ezuall, Thanks, don't worry about the prettiness. I'll fix it up and package it. Regards and thanks in advance, Pander ezuall wrote: Pander, I'll have to have a dig for the code, it won't be pretty, as I stitched it together for a quick overview of Italian before a trip last year. I don't know if the Japanese character set is supported. I'll send it through as soon as I find it, may be 24 hours though ezuall On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Pander-2 (via Nabble) ml-user+35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.comml-user%2b35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.com wrote: Hi Ezuall, Do you still have the code or the changes you applied? Could you send them to me? By the way, which language was it? If it is Japanese, I'm also interested in the data files. Thanks, Pander ezuall wrote: Hi there, Last year I used PyFlash, but I'm not sure which distribution I was running at that time. I know it was easy to get it running, only a few chages were necesarry. I was using it for learning language at the time, so I added a line for pronunciation as well, which worked better in landscape mode for learning phrases. Cheers ezuall ___ Openmoko community mailing list commun...@...http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=2567597i=0 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- This email is a reply to your post @ http://n2.nabble.com/Learning-with-flashcards---granule-tp2564322p2567597.html You can reply by email or by visting the link above. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:42:47 +0100 Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote: 2009/3/31 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i think there is none shr (or fso?) got rejected Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected. Out of interest, did the rejection have anything to do with Android being a Google product and a competitor to SHR/FSO? I don't know, the mail didn't say and I don't think it would if it were the case. Apart from that I don't think they view us as a competitor. At most I guess they see us as a redundant effort. Even more of a reason to prove them wrong. :-) Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:10:32 +0100 Arigead captain.dea...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel Willmann wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i think there is none shr (or fso?) got rejected Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected. Everybody is still welcome to work on cool projects, though. :-) Are you mentoring ? ;-) Depends. What do you have in mind? :-) Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:44 AM, leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote: hi all, As I did for Qtopia, I’ve recompiled my un-predictive keyboard for qt-extended-improved. It is a patched version of the matchbox keyboard that comes with Qt made usable without a stylus.I’ve changed the layout from last time I touched it : * I found out how to suppress the hints bar, that never had any real use for me * I used wider picks to help people that do not play guitar and have regular size nails :-) * In the sourcecode you can find an attempt to use screen rotation (disabled now) to automatically switch to wide mode when sending sms. I didn’t have time to make it work. then you have to chose at each boot, the default one can not be changed. if you want screenshots explain me how to have them with qtextended :-) codebin here: http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/01/qt-extended-un-predictive-keyboard/ I put the whole keyboard source dir in the zip but i think I have only touched keyboardframe.cpp. I will send a patch for the git soon. ciao, leonardo. Hi, I'm very interested in testing this, but the source isn't in the zipfile ... For the screenshots, maybe you can try http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=18 ? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
using toolchain
Hello! I read the document of toolchain on:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain I arrived until this command: * Extract it directly as root, so use command su first (or prefix the tar command with sudo when you are using Debian/Ubuntu): cd / tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 I don't understand what I have to write in command exactly, I'm working on Debian but I runned this command: sudo tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 but I obtained this error: tar: /root/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 : la fonction open a échoué: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type tar: Erreur non récupérable : arrêt du traitement tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Des erreurs ont provoqué l'arrêt du programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using toolchain
I don't understand what I have to write in command exactly, I'm working on Debian but I runned this command: sudo tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 i don't know how good sudo is supported nowadays in debian, but i prefer to _be_ root instead: su - and then do it again without sudo. but I obtained this error: tar: /root/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 : la fonction open a échoué: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type tar: Erreur non récupérable : arrêt du traitement tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Des erreurs ont provoqué l'arrêt du programme my french is rather rusty, but it might mean that you either don't have bzip2 installed or that the archive is corrupt. i strongly urge you to use the second attempt suggested: bunzip2 openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 gzip openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar fakeroot alien -d openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.gz sudo dpkg -i openmoko_*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain*.deb thus you have far more control over the files installed and you could remove them easily. additionally, the chances to break your system are significantly smaller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
help for development in 5 minutes
Hello! I read this document http://andreasdalsgaard.blogspot.com/2008/07/openmoko-development-in-5-minutes.html; in order to build a simple helloworld porgram on my openmoko I'm going to start with this command: wget http://smartere.dk/openmoko/openmoko-toolchain_0.20080521-ubuntu6_i386.deb sudo dpkg -i openmoko-toolchain_0.20080521-ubuntu6_i386.deb what I have to write instead of ubuntu6, if I'm working on Debian, and is not necessary to work as root user?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: help for development in 5 minutes
wget http://smartere.dk/openmoko/openmoko-toolchain_0.20080521-ubuntu6_i386.deb sudo dpkg -i openmoko-toolchain_0.20080521-ubuntu6_i386.deb what I have to write instead of ubuntu6, if I'm working on Debian, nothing different -- the ubuntu6 comes frome the package (file) name and has to be there. with wget you donwload a file with the name openmoko-toolchain_0.20080521-ubuntu6_i386.deb to your current directory. with dpkg -i you install that very same file -- thus the ubuntu6 has to be there because it is part of the filename. and is not necessary to work as root user?? for installing packages you need to be root. either via login or su or sudo. reading your posts i've got the impression you are not very familiar with your linux/debian box -- it would probably be more sensible to get aquainted with your debian before trying anything more complex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ALL] Software based buzz fix!
Hi All, after deep brainstorming and heavy engineering, here is the result: http://tiny.cc/WcbIn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 125, Issue 16
I did this command y011pc99:/# bunzip2 openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 but I obtained: bunzip2: Can't open input file openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2: No such file or directory. what I have to do On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote: Send community mailing list submissions to commun...@lists.openmoko.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org You can reach the person managing the list at community-ow...@lists.openmoko.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of community digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Learning with flashcards - granule (Pander) 2. Re: Google Summer of Code (Daniel Willmann) 3. Re: Google Summer of Code (Daniel Willmann) 4. using toolchain (Anas Alzouhbi) 5. Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard (Franky Van Liedekerke) 6. Re: using toolchain (arne anka) 7. help for development in 5 minutes (Anas Alzouhbi) -- Forwarded message -- From: Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:55:50 +0200 Subject: Re: Learning with flashcards - granule Ezuall, Thanks, don't worry about the prettiness. I'll fix it up and package it. Regards and thanks in advance, Pander ezuall wrote: Pander, I'll have to have a dig for the code, it won't be pretty, as I stitched it together for a quick overview of Italian before a trip last year. I don't know if the Japanese character set is supported. I'll send it through as soon as I find it, may be 24 hours though ezuall On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Pander-2 (via Nabble) ml-user+35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.comml-user%2b35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.com wrote: Hi Ezuall, Do you still have the code or the changes you applied? Could you send them to me? By the way, which language was it? If it is Japanese, I'm also interested in the data files. Thanks, Pander ezuall wrote: Hi there, Last year I used PyFlash, but I'm not sure which distribution I was running at that time. I know it was easy to get it running, only a few chages were necesarry. I was using it for learning language at the time, so I added a line for pronunciation as well, which worked better in landscape mode for learning phrases. Cheers ezuall ___ Openmoko community mailing list commun...@...http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=2567597i=0 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- This email is a reply to your post @ http://n2.nabble.com/Learning-with-flashcards---granule-tp2564322p2567597.html You can reply by email or by visting the link above. -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de To: commun...@lists.openmoko.org Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:00:20 +0200 Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:42:47 +0100 Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote: 2009/3/31 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i think there is none shr (or fso?) got rejected Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected. Out of interest, did the rejection have anything to do with Android being a Google product and a competitor to SHR/FSO? I don't know, the mail didn't say and I don't think it would if it were the case. Apart from that I don't think they view us as a competitor. At most I guess they see us as a redundant effort. Even more of a reason to prove them wrong. :-) Regards, Daniel Willmann -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de To: commun...@lists.openmoko.org Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:04:26 +0200 Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:10:32 +0100 Arigead captain.dea...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel Willmann wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i think there is none shr (or fso?) got rejected Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected. Everybody is still welcome to work on cool projects, though. :-) Are you mentoring ? ;-) Depends. What do you have in mind? :-) Regards, Daniel Willmann -- Forwarded message -- From: Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com To: commun...@lists.openmoko.org Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:27:07 +0200 Subject: using toolchain Hello! I read the document of toolchain on:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain I arrived until this command: * Extract it directly as root,
Re: [ALL] Software based buzz fix!
LOL X-D 2009/4/1 boilersoup boilersoup boilers...@gmail.com: Hi All, after deep brainstorming and heavy engineering, here is the result: http://tiny.cc/WcbIn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[200X.Y] toolchain. was Re: community Digest, Vol 125, Issue 16
I did this command y011pc99:/# bunzip2 openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 but I obtained: bunzip2: Can't open input file openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2: No such file or directory. what I have to do for starters: - stop with opening yet another thread for the same problem - read the answers - do not reply with full mails (especially not with the daily digest! who is supposed to read all that?), but cut it down to the parts necessary replace openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 with the full filename and try again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] Software based buzz fix!
boilersoup boilersoup wrote: Hi All, after deep brainstorming and heavy engineering, you really got me ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS Thoughts
Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: [...] The info cannot be considered very secret, seeing that O2 already broadcast such stuff. Or for Germans, ask them if they can provide the same kind of location service so you won't have to switch to O2. ;-) In the UK they would prefer this data to be secret - see link below. I see. Still, I see that the not entirely up-to-date information they have may be forcibly released. That ought to help for AGPS purposes, even if some new towers aren't listed. And then there is the hope that at least some telcos will see the light. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
which way is the easier
Hello! I succeed to do the ssh with my openmoko,but the ways that I have found to arrive to build the first program are: 1 - Documentation: Building a helloworld application, which needs to prepare to it to build openmoko from scratch, which have in prerequisites to follow getting started steps of openEmbedded 2- Customizing the openmoko distribution (I think this is way is easier than the first) this requires to build teh Mokomakefile 3- Documentation: Openmoko application development in 5 minutes. 4- Follow the toolchain and others which do you recommend for a starter to follow until finish?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which way is the easier
Hi Anas, I'm also interested in FR, and I'm a fresh man to this. As we all know that there are about three SW levels, which is u-boot,kernel,Application. On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 13:21 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Hello! I succeed to do the ssh with my openmoko,but the ways that I have found to arrive to build the first program are: 1 - Documentation: Building a helloworld application, which needs to prepare to it to build openmoko from scratch, which have in prerequisites to follow getting started steps of openEmbedded 2- Customizing the openmoko distribution (I think this is way is easier than the first) this requires to build teh Mokomakefile Well, currently, there are lots of distribution http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions . If u like Mokomakefile, then OE should be started first, I'm on this, but slowly :( 3- Documentation: Openmoko application development in 5 minutes. I think this one is easy to do, I mean provide a hello world :) 4- Follow the toolchain Yeah, tool chain also can be built by your self, if it's just for hello world. I think it's *NOT* that difficult. and others which do you recommend for a starter to follow until finish?? Well, it's hard to say, which one do u prefer? :) Just your choice, right? :):):) ___ devel mailing list de...@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [200X.Y] toolchain. was Re: community Digest, Vol 125, Issue 16
you said replace openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 with the full filename and try again, you mean the filename of what?? I big you hlep well, the name of the file you fetched with wget, of course. there are two possibilities: http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/openmoko-i686-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 or http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/openmoko-x86_64-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 depending on your system (x86, 32 bit or 64 bit) you need to download the right one. thus instead of openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 use openmoko-i686-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 or openmoko-x86_64-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 respectively. next step could be tar -txjvf openmoko-i686-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 which would only _list_ the contents, _not_ extract. from here do as you wish, i strongly advise you, to convert it to a deb and install the deb, as pointed out by the snippet i quoted. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko for blind users?
Crane, Matthew wrote: Seems to me OM would be a good platform to quickly implement something like this on a working phone. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127015.700-vibrating-touch-scree n-puts-braille-at-the-fingertips.html There quite a few ways to help the blind using this phone: * Some aren't completely blind, and can be helped with an enormous font. Up to one character covering the display, if need be. * USB have some options. One can connect a keyboard or a smaller numerical keyboard. Of course these can have braille keys. * It is also possible to connect a braille output device braille screen?. Such devices works well with the command-line interface. We already have a command-line app for sending SMS. Adding command-line apps for making calls and reading SMS isn't hard either. * speech synthesizers can read sms (and other stuff) over the speaker. Free ones exists, for quite a few languages. Being open, it isn't that hard to install alternative software. There are already linux software for the blind. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard
Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:44 AM, leona...@lilik.it ^ I'm very interested in testing this, but the source isn't in the zipfile ... that happens when you do posts at 2AM. :-) I will update it as soon as possible an try to fix the bug too. I've been using a different layout for months that works ok for me, but has little picks for most of the people. Changing the layout isn't so difficult. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:46:26 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: with OM support i would surely like the fix to be applied I am currently waiting for the phones to arrive, until then I can't promise anything. Since the FSOSHRUDCON has been postponed I'm currently aiming at March 1st through March 3rd for the buzz fix party. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:54:59 +0200 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Daniel Willmann dan...@openmoko.org writes: I have now performed a couple buzz fixes and feel pretty confident that I'll fix more phones than I'll break in the process. :-) (I haven't broken any phones until now) Cool, have you thought about accepting phones to be sent to you by mail? I'm sure you could ask for a fee to cover your time and material costs. Yeah, many requests have reached me and I'll accept phones sent to me. The only issue is that I'm not going to pay for sending back the phones so we'll have to arrange for something there. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:08:16 +0100 Joerg Lippmann jl_li...@donalbain.de wrote: Am Sonntag 15 März 2009 schrieb Daniel Willmann: In order to gauge interest and plan ahead wrt ordering Resistors/Capacitors I'd like to know how many phones would come. The party will probably take place in mid April. If you are interested and would show up please mail me privately and also tell me how many phones you would bring. If all goes well I'll be doing this with support from Openmoko and will be able to replace any Freerunners I break in the process. Hmmm, Braunschweig is about 300km from my home town. Is there a way to get my phone fixed as well without spending the whole day on the road (maybe send it to you?) I'm considering mail delivery as an option. The only problem I have is that I need to get the money for the return package. Don't know how we could handle that best... I have terrible buzz *always* when I use my phone at home, no matter what distribution. So all the time when I happen to be at home and get a call I have to shout to the other party to call me on the land line. Really embarrassing to have to use an expensive phone thats broken by design and the manufacturer does not bother to fix it immediatly at no cost. Well, the buzz issue was fixed on all of the phones I did the rework on. And to be fair OM is supporting me (hopefully soon) with replacement phones for the ones I break and components... Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany
Since the FSOSHRUDCON has been postponed I'm currently aiming at March 1st through March 3rd for the buzz fix party. uh, you did check the calendar, did you? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Helge Hafting wrote: Hm. But the glamo supports _some_ format. Will X11 be able to take advantage of that, if the app is smart and request exactly the subsets of blending operations/dataformats that the glamo can do? That would be a question for the X11 gurus. I have such a script for sms, but not for calls. I can send a message like this: # sms 123456789 Short message text Great ! So all we need is a dialer, a contacts database (just use something like $HOME/contacts/$name with maybe a ^key\s+value\s$ structure inside ?), and an SMS reader. April 1 is not over yet ;-) - Werner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard
Oh... this sound interesting... I will try it. On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:38 PM, leonardo leona...@lilik.it wrote: Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:44 AM, leona...@lilik.it ^ I'm very interested in testing this, but the source isn't in the zipfile ... that happens when you do posts at 2AM. :-) I will update it as soon as possible an try to fix the bug too. I've been using a different layout for months that works ok for me, but has little picks for most of the people. Changing the layout isn't so difficult. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
$299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?
Dear all, I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap! http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD Not an April Fools thing is it? Cheers, Joseph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: date and GPS related questions
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:15:34 +0300 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel Willmann dan...@openmoko.org writes: I think (not sure) that Qt Extended uses the time(zone) cellbroadcast messages which are broadcasted by some operators. Looks like +CTZV unsolicited message doesn't actually supply timezone information (which must include country-specific DST information), only current offset to UTC (or GMT even?), so it's somewhat useless anyway. Right, though you do know which country the network belongs to so with some nasty assumptions you could probably find the right timezone.. IMO it's not worth the trouble, though. Am i missing something? Probably not. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap! http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD Not an April Fools thing is it? This must be in-stock phones, and as next ones (GTA2 A7) should have some buzz fix already done at factory, these old ones will loose value I would say... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] debian image
i have uploaded the debian based rootfs here [1]. All the patches to QTE Improved GIT were sent on this list yesterday. Nice. The next step is to package QtE so it can be installed via apt-get. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using toolchain
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 11:27 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Hello! I read the document of toolchain on:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain I arrived until this command: * Extract it directly as root, so use command su first (or prefix the tar command with sudo when you are using Debian/Ubuntu): cd / tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 I don't understand what I have to write in command exactly, I'm working on Debian but I runned this command: sudo tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 but I obtained this error: tar: /root/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 : la fonction open a échoué: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type tar: Erreur non récupérable : arrêt du traitement tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Des erreurs ont provoqué l'arrêt du programme It;s not finding the file. You need to replace the ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 below with the filename and location that you downloaded. tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?
That would make sense... After a bit of googling for belgium openmoko (a perfectly normal search term, honest...) I found this reseller that I'd never seen before: https://kd85.com/openmoko.html Seems to have taken delivery of 180/200: http://openmoko.kd85.com/images/ and is selling them on at a very good price, has been doing so since November last year. Openmoko stock clearance? Cheers, Joseph 2009/4/1 Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap! http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD Not an April Fools thing is it? This must be in-stock phones, and as next ones (GTA2 A7) should have some buzz fix already done at factory, these old ones will loose value I would say... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany
Hi all, For me from centre of the Netherlands it is 413 km, 4 hours by car. I have been of the list for a while. When is the exact date for this fix party? Any one else from the Netherlands or Belgium thinking about going there by car? Perhaps car pulling is an option. Four OpenMoko geeks will have plenty to talk about in 4 hours of driving ;) Possibly we could bring even more devices to fix. What about the resellers, are they having their stock fixed? Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: started with openembedded
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:41 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Thank you for your recommandation, I'm a new user and programmer on Linux, could you help me how can I run my commands as normal user, with the problem of permission of creating directories. what do you mean start from scratch or do a chown on directories. Thank you for you help that I big it On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:45 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: hello! I followed the instruction written in http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started, I arrived to this command git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded but it shows this error: fatal: could not create work tree dir 'openembedded'. what must I do Hi Anas From looking at some of your other mails you've been running some commands as root. It's not necessary and dangerous. It's probably a permission problem on the directory, so either start from scratch somewhere else as a normal user or do a chown on the directories you're working in. Angus Please keep the thread on list Google pointed out a few links http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Debian_newbie_help_documentation http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_started Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: date and GPS related questions
Hi, On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:59:20 +0900 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: No, otimed sucks for a number of reasons (not the least being hard coded to an NTP server somewhere in Europe) so control like you are after is critical. just wanted to follow up on this. From the sample frameworkd.conf file: # # Subsystem configuration for otimed # [otimed] # a list of time/zone sources to use or NONE timesources = GPS,NTP zonesources = GSM It would be nice to change that at runtime, patches welcome. :-) In Perth Australia, vodafone appears to have my location set to Lord Howe Island - some 3000+ km away in the pacific - I am near the Indian Ocean. As well, I suspect they are not sending local time, but time as it is in the eastern states (2hr diff). Is there a way to get the gsm to print the data as to what it thinks it is? - some command in mickeyterm? - be nice to confirm and know what its actually doing as I certainly cant trust the FR to get it right. Framework debugging should tell you. The freerunner by design seems unable to keep accurate time unless you are in Europe ... Well, timekeeping is independent from that. The UTC time will stay right no matter what timezone you're in. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:09:15 +0200 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Since the FSOSHRUDCON has been postponed I'm currently aiming at March 1st through March 3rd for the buzz fix party. uh, you did check the calendar, did you? I think he did. 334 days in not that much, is it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: date and GPS related questions
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 18:15 +0200, Daniel Willmann wrote: Hi, On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:59:20 +0900 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: No, otimed sucks for a number of reasons (not the least being hard coded to an NTP server somewhere in Europe) so control like you are after is critical. just wanted to follow up on this. From the sample frameworkd.conf file: # # Subsystem configuration for otimed # [otimed] # a list of time/zone sources to use or NONE timesources = GPS,NTP zonesources = GSM It would be nice to change that at runtime, patches welcome. :-) For counties that have more than one timezone make sure that /etc/localtime is COPIED from /usr/share/zoneinfo and /etc/timezone is properly set as well. In /etc/frameworkd.conf change zonesources to zonesources = NONE In Perth Australia, vodafone appears to have my location set to Lord Howe Island - some 3000+ km away in the pacific - I am near the Indian Ocean. As well, I suspect they are not sending local time, but time as it is in the eastern states (2hr diff). Is there a way to get the gsm to print the data as to what it thinks it is? - some command in mickeyterm? - be nice to confirm and know what its actually doing as I certainly cant trust the FR to get it right. Framework debugging should tell you. The freerunner by design seems unable to keep accurate time unless you are in Europe ... Well, timekeeping is independent from that. The UTC time will stay right no matter what timezone you're in. The timezone packets for multi timezone countries aren't processed properly yet. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help with Log Message
On Wednesday 01 April 2009, waqar afridi wrote: hi i m new comer to the openmoko community and m highly interested in it. i have flashed a new kernel in my openmoko but can not get *messages* file in my /var/log/. can any one help. Use logread to see the log contents. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS Thoughts
On Wednesday 01 April 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: [...] The info cannot be considered very secret, seeing that O2 already broadcast such stuff. Or for Germans, ask them if they can provide the same kind of location service so you won't have to switch to O2. ;-) In the UK they would prefer this data to be secret - see link below. I see. Still, I see that the not entirely up-to-date information they have may be forcibly released. That ought to help for AGPS purposes, even if some new towers aren't listed. It may have been released, but they still hold the copyright. In many (most?) jurisdictions you will need a license to use it for AGPS purposes, and I doubt they'll be granting one. And then there is the hope that at least some telcos will see the light. Indeed, but on past experience I expect to be waiting a long time! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] debian image
Stefan Monnier wrote: Nice. The next step is to package QtE so it can be installed via apt-get. Stefan Yes, i was thinking exactly the same. There are some things that have to be solved cleanly before this can be done. E.g. the udev rule for GSM modem. I have described it in my howto. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help with Log Message
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:21:03 +0500 waqar afridi afridi.wa...@gmail.com wrote: hi i m new comer to the openmoko community and m highly interested in it. i have flashed a new kernel in my openmoko but can not get *messages* file in my /var/log/. can any one help. use logread, or edit /etc/syslog.conf and change buffer to file, then restart. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended Improved] on debian rootfs with 2.6.28
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:17:42 +0200 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i am now working on QTE running on debian rootfs with recent kernel (latest andy-tracking). Right now i think i have working all that i was using with QTE 4.4.3 from here [1]. This basically is: * working SMS/calls * GPRS * suspend/resume Attached are patches that i used and work-in progress howto. I will upload whole rootfs during this week. Radek, you first patch activates gstreamer. Is this on purpose or just because it works on debian? Or does it work on fso based rootfs systems as well? When I tried your patches, together with the one from Filip for the usb cable, the system compiled just fine. But after that: I want a uimage+jffs2 based system to work with, and debian only installs on SD. So I tried different scenarios: - the one recommended with QtEi (without the 2.6.28 patches), but then the system doesn't wake up for sms - the old stable Om2008.12 uimage (without the 2.6.28 patches), but then I got the sms duplication issue (but it did wake up from suspend for sms's though) - the fso-console image (with 2.6.28 patches, halting frameworkd and fso specific stuff): with the gstreamer patch, I didn't get any sound (even after installing everything possible for gstreamer). Without it (and using the libmad mp3 patch), it was ok. But voice note recording didn't work (and I doubt the bluetooth stuff as well, but didn't got around of testing that). - the hackable:1 distro: never got further than second boot, ssh not possible. It seems it wants my SIM card to continue or so ... I would put my money on working with the fso-console image, and going from there to build a workable system (maybe even using a small script that disables frameworkd, installs QtExtended and all that). So: which uimage to choose? Maybe I messed up the testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin tests, so if anyboy can confirm that their system does wake up using this kernel ... ? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)
Nice! it works, it seems to me that the category Office is compulsory. I tried minimo, it's really fast! thank you i'll post my impression on this fabulous shr! d On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Steven ** montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.commontgoss%2bopenmokocommun...@gmail.com wrote: This has happened to me before when Illume didn't like the combination of categories I used. Copy/paste the categories from a working desktop file and see if that helps. -Steven On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: yes, yesterday i tried making new files in the dir you specified, but with no luck (no new icon appeared)... i'll try again, thanks for your reply! d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended Improved] on debian rootfs with 2.6.28
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: But after that: I want a uimage+jffs2 based system to work with, and debian only installs on SD. Hi Franky, i wanted to make jffs2 filesystem too. Just didnt get to it yet. It should be possible. The rootfs is not very big. I think that jffs2 can be made just by untaring the and using mkfs.jffs2 as descibed here [1]. The kernel is in the tarbal so this should be ok. And last thing might be needed is changing /etc/fstab - you can use your current fstab for reference. Maybe this step is not needed and my fstab can handle jffs2 too. I could try this - maybe tomorrow? Radek [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Userspace_root_image ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended Improved] on debian rootfs with 2.6.28
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:06:22 +0200 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: But after that: I want a uimage+jffs2 based system to work with, and debian only installs on SD. Hi Franky, i wanted to make jffs2 filesystem too. Just didnt get to it yet. It should be possible. The rootfs is not very big. I think that jffs2 can be made just by untaring the and using mkfs.jffs2 as descibed here [1]. The kernel is in the tarbal so this should be ok. And last thing might be needed is changing /etc/fstab - you can use your current fstab for reference. Maybe this step is not needed and my fstab can handle jffs2 too. hmmm ... I just tried creating the jffs2, it's 164 MB, about double the size of any other rootfs (I already removed the kernel uimage then). I'm trying it now, but it will take so much longer to transfer that amount of data ... Btw: does anybody have any idea how to get gstreamer to work with a fso-based rootfs? That might reduce the size of the image *a lot* ... and maybe solve the sound recording issue and such ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:09:15 +0200 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Since the FSOSHRUDCON has been postponed I'm currently aiming at March 1st through March 3rd for the buzz fix party. uh, you did check the calendar, did you? Yeah, off-by-two. :-) I meant May 1st through May 3rd. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?
Hi Jospeh, That is where i got my FR. Good reseller, i would buy there again. Kind regards, Ed Joseph Reeves wrote: That would make sense... After a bit of googling for belgium openmoko (a perfectly normal search term, honest...) I found this reseller that I'd never seen before: https://kd85.com/openmoko.html Seems to have taken delivery of 180/200: http://openmoko.kd85.com/images/ and is selling them on at a very good price, has been doing so since November last year. Openmoko stock clearance? Cheers, Joseph 2009/4/1 Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap! http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD Not an April Fools thing is it? This must be in-stock phones, and as next ones (GTA2 A7) should have some buzz fix already done at factory, these old ones will loose value I would say... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:44 AM, leona...@lilik.it Hi, I'm very interested in testing this, but the source isn't in the zipfile ... For the screenshots, maybe you can try http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=18 ? http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/01/qt-extended-un-predictive-keyboard/ here we go, you can find the source code in the zip and the .so including bugfix to make the first row not overlap with the prediction row. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?
Its the real deal. Shipping from US only. Sean gave a great speech at ESC and he was join by Bill Gatliff who reviewed his experience with the platform. This is a new market for us, one not so driven by the needs of a daily phone. more of a hardware hacker crowd who care more about the availability of schematics. Joseph Reeves wrote: Dear all, I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap! http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD Not an April Fools thing is it? Cheers, Joseph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: date and GPS related questions
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 18:15 +0200, Daniel Willmann wrote: Hi, Well, timekeeping is independent from that. The UTC time will stay right no matter what timezone you're in. Unfortunately it doesnt - wanders all over the place, usually lagging. If I notice it, I usually find otimed.py has overwritten my changes to the ntp reference (a local timeserver helps a lot - but its still not great). Depending on where I am connected to, it may or may not see the site in Germany, which may or may not be extremely slow/lagged. If it gets too far out, you have to manually set it. It looks like it often just refuses to work. Nothing in the logs. I also noticed yesterday it says checking every 600 seconds - then it went off and started checking just over every 60 seconds. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] debian image
Yes, i was thinking exactly the same. There are some things that have to be solved cleanly before this can be done. E.g. the udev rule for GSM modem. I have described it in my howto. The udev rule seems easy to fix: rather than put it in /media/card/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules, put it in a new file /media/card/etc/udev/rules.d/50-qtextended.rules Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended Improved] patch: 0001-using-uevent-to-get-kernel-notifications-for-usb-cable-changed.txt
That's great..Now QtEI should work better on kernel 2.6.28. I will do a test soon. On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Filip Onkelinx fi...@linux4.be wrote: Hi, attached is a patch to use uevent to get kernel notifications for 'usb-cable-changed' in QtExtended on recent kernels (=2.6.28). On 'older' kernels (2.6.28), this information was comming in trough /dev/input/event4 but this is no longer working (there is a ticket for this at https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2254 ). With this patch my FR switches correctly from battery power savings scheme to online pwoer scheme, and usb networking goes up/down as expected. Same mechanism could be used to re-implement an event based neobattery. This patch should not break 2.6.24 compatibility. Cheers, Filip. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2009/4/1 KaZeR ka...@altern.org Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann a écrit : +1 from me. I'm using unstable as primary phone. And so far had no real problems. I remember though that somebody had strange problems receiving SMS. If that's still valid please stand up and speak :-) /me stands up. I stand up too. Latest unstable is nice : fast compared to other distros, GPS works fine, a lot of good things. But the sms apps still tends to segfault when launched. And sometimes some messages aren't viewable using the GUI, but i can see them using AT+CMGL I'm having exactly this problem with sms that don't appear on sms app. But puting the sim in another phone they appear as read. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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uppps! sorry i made a mistake sending this mail. it was for the shr list 2009/4/2 Nacho Seijo lists.na...@gmail.com 2009/4/1 KaZeR ka...@altern.org Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann a écrit : +1 from me. I'm using unstable as primary phone. And so far had no real problems. I remember though that somebody had strange problems receiving SMS. If that's still valid please stand up and speak :-) /me stands up. I stand up too. Latest unstable is nice : fast compared to other distros, GPS works fine, a lot of good things. But the sms apps still tends to segfault when launched. And sometimes some messages aren't viewable using the GUI, but i can see them using AT+CMGL I'm having exactly this problem with sms that don't appear on sms app. But puting the sim in another phone they appear as read. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
The draft of 15th community update
Dear All, The draft for the 15th community update can be found here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/April_05%2C_2009 Please feel free to add/edit contents.I have not been able to gather much information about some distributions.If anyone could add some information regarding the same or anything else that I have missed out would be of great help. Thanks and Regards, Sushama ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The draft of 15th community update
sushama sush...@openmoko.com writes: Please feel free to add/edit contents.I have not been able to gather much information about some distributions. No wonder, never seen you on an IRC channel where most FSO and SHR devs gather and other important dev-related things happen. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Chronometer
Uploaded new version with implemented lap counter, but i have forget to remove \r in sources, may be later :| -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Debian--Chronometer-tp2553524p2573426.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community