Re: Google Summer of Code

2009-04-01 Thread Arigead
Daniel Willmann wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100
 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 i think there is none
 shr (or fso?) got rejected
 
 Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected.
 Everybody is still welcome to work on cool projects, though. :-)
 
Are you mentoring ? ;-)


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Need help with Log Message

2009-04-01 Thread waqar afridi
hi i m new comer to the openmoko community and m highly interested in it. i
have flashed a new kernel in my openmoko but can not get *messages* file
in my /var/log/. can any one help.
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Re: Learning with flashcards - granule

2009-04-01 Thread ezuall

Hi there,

Last year I used PyFlash, but I'm not sure which distribution I was running at 
that time.  I know it was easy to get it running, only a few chages were 
necesarry.  I was using it for learning language at the time, so I added a line 
for pronunciation as well, which worked better in landscape mode for learning 
phrases.

Cheers
ezuall
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Re: Learning with flashcards - granule

2009-04-01 Thread ezuall

Pander,

I'll have to have a dig for the code, it won't be pretty, as I stitched it
together for a quick overview of Italian before a trip last year.  I don't
know if the Japanese character set is supported.

I'll send it through as soon as I find it, may be 24 hours though
ezuall

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Pander-2 (via Nabble) 
ml-user+35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.comml-user%2b35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.com
 wrote:

 Hi Ezuall,

 Do you still have the code or the changes you applied? Could you send
 them to me?

 By the way, which language was it? If it is Japanese, I'm also
 interested in the data files.

 Thanks,

 Pander

 ezuall wrote:
  Hi there,
 
  Last year I used PyFlash, but I'm not sure which distribution I was
 running at that time.  I know it was easy to get it running, only a few
 chages were necesarry.  I was using it for learning language at the time, so
 I added a line for pronunciation as well, which worked better in landscape
 mode for learning phrases.
 
  Cheers
  ezuall


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[QT Extended Improved] patch: 0001-using-uevent-to-get-kernel-notifications-for-usb-cable-changed.txt

2009-04-01 Thread Filip Onkelinx

Hi,

attached is a patch to use uevent to get kernel notifications for  
'usb-cable-changed' in QtExtended on recent kernels (=2.6.28).
On 'older' kernels (2.6.28), this information was comming in trough  
/dev/input/event4 but this is no longer working (there is a ticket for  
this at https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2254 ).
With this patch my FR switches correctly from battery power savings scheme  
to online pwoer scheme, and usb networking goes up/down as expected.

Same mechanism could be used to re-implement an event based neobattery.

This patch should not break 2.6.24 compatibility.

Cheers,

Filip.
From 367a7ec014442b47be615ccbde8dc7441bfb466c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Filip Onkelinx fi...@dev.linux4.be
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:22 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] using uevent to get kernel notifications for usb cable changed

Signed-off-by: Filip Onkelinx fi...@dev.linux4.be
---
 devices/neo/server/neohardware.cpp|   79 ++
 devices/neo/server/neohardware.h  |6 +-
 2 files changed, 85 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/devices/neo/server/neohardware.cpp 
b/devices/neo/server/neohardware.cpp
index e259094..fca61bc 100644
--- a/devices/neo/server/neohardware.cpp
+++ b/devices/neo/server/neohardware.cpp
@@ -44,6 +44,16 @@
 #include linux/input.h
 
 #include sys/ioctl.h
+#include stdio.h
+#include stdlib.h
+#include string.h
+#include ctype.h
+#include sys/un.h
+#include sys/socket.h
+#include linux/types.h
+#include linux/netlink.h
+#include QTcpSocket
+#include QtDebug
 
 QTOPIA_TASK(NeoHardware, NeoHardware);
 
@@ -52,10 +62,31 @@ NeoHardware::NeoHardware()
   vsoUsbCable(/Hardware/UsbGadget),
   vsoNeoHardware(/Hardware/Neo)
 {
+struct sockaddr_nl snl;
 adaptor = new QtopiaIpcAdaptor(QPE/NeoHardware);
 
 qLog(Hardware)  neohardware;
 
+memset(snl, 0x00, sizeof(struct sockaddr_nl));
+snl.nl_family = AF_NETLINK;
+snl.nl_pid = getpid();
+snl.nl_groups = 1;
+snl.nl_groups = 0x1;
+
+int hotplug_sock = socket(PF_NETLINK, SOCK_DGRAM, NETLINK_KOBJECT_UEVENT);
+if (hotplug_sock == -1) {
+qLog(Hardware)  error getting uevent socket:  strerror(errno);
+}else{ 
+  if ( bind(hotplug_sock, (struct sockaddr *) snl, sizeof(struct 
sockaddr_nl))  0) {
+qLog(Hardware)  uevent bind failed:  strerror(errno);
+hotplug_sock = -1;
+  }else{
+   ueventSocket = new QTcpSocket(this);
+   ueventSocket-setSocketDescriptor(hotplug_sock);
+   connect(ueventSocket, SIGNAL(readyRead()), this, SLOT(uevent()));
+  }
+}
+
 cableConnected(getCableStatus());
 
 vsoPortableHandsfree.setAttribute(Present, false);
@@ -77,6 +108,54 @@ NeoHardware::~NeoHardware()
 {
 }
 
+char *NeoHardware::findAttribute(char *buf, int len, const char *token)
+{
+int pos=0;
+
+  while (poslen)
+  {
+if(strncmp(buf[pos],token,strlen(token))==0)
+   return(buf[pos+strlen(token)]);
+pos=pos+strlen(buf[pos])+1;
+  }
+  return(buf);
+}
+
+void NeoHardware::uevent()
+{
+#define UEVENT_BUFFER_SIZE 1024
+char buffer[UEVENT_BUFFER_SIZE];
+char *value;
+
+  int bytesAvail = ueventSocket-bytesAvailable();
+  int readCount = UEVENT_BUFFER_SIZE;
+  if (bytesAvail  readCount)
+  readCount = bytesAvail;
+  ueventSocket-read(buffer[0],readCount);
+  if(strcmp(buffer,change@/class/power_supply/usb)==0)
+  {
+value=findAttribute(buffer,readCount,POWER_SUPPLY_ONLINE=);
+qDebug()usb change event; online='value';
+cableConnected(atoi(value));
+  }else if(strcmp(buffer,change@/class/power_supply/ac)==0)
+  {
+value=findAttribute(buffer,readCount,POWER_SUPPLY_ONLINE=);
+qDebug()ac change event; online=value;
+  }else if(strcmp(buffer,change@/class/power_supply/adapter)==0)
+  {
+value=findAttribute(buffer,readCount,POWER_SUPPLY_ONLINE=);
+qDebug()power_supply change event; online=value;
+  }else if(strcmp(buffer,change@/class/power_supply/battery)==0)
+  {
+value=findAttribute(buffer,readCount,POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=);
+qDebug()battery change event charge%=value%;
+  }else if(strcmp(buffer,change@/class/switch/headset)==0)
+  {
+value=findAttribute(buffer,readCount,SWITCH_STATE=);
+qDebug()headset change event, switch_state=value;
+ }
+}
+
 void NeoHardware::findHardwareVersion()
 {
 QFile cpuinfo( /proc/cpuinfo);
diff --git a/devices/neo/server/neohardware.h b/devices/neo/server/neohardware.h
index f52b232..0d70f72 100644
--- a/devices/neo/server/neohardware.h
+++ b/devices/neo/server/neohardware.h
@@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
 
 #include QObject
 #include QProcess
+#include QTcpSocket
 
 #include qvaluespace.h
 #include linux/input.h
@@ -48,15 +49,18 @@ private:
  QValueSpaceObject vsoUsbCable;
  QValueSpaceObject vsoNeoHardware;
  QtopiaIpcAdaptor *adaptor;
+ QTcpSocket *ueventSocket;
 
  void findHardwareVersion();
  QtopiaIpcAdaptor *audioMgr;
-  
+ char *findAttribute(char *buf, int len, const char *token);
+ 
 private 

Re: Learning with flashcards - granule

2009-04-01 Thread Pander
Hi Ezuall,

Do you still have the code or the changes you applied? Could you send
them to me?

By the way, which language was it? If it is Japanese, I'm also
interested in the data files.

Thanks,

Pander

ezuall wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 Last year I used PyFlash, but I'm not sure which distribution I was running 
 at that time.  I know it was easy to get it running, only a few chages were 
 necesarry.  I was using it for learning language at the time, so I added a 
 line for pronunciation as well, which worked better in landscape mode for 
 learning phrases.
 
 Cheers
 ezuall


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Re: Learning with flashcards - granule

2009-04-01 Thread Pander
Ezuall,

Thanks, don't worry about the prettiness. I'll fix it up and package it.

Regards and thanks in advance,

Pander

ezuall wrote:
 Pander,
 
 I'll have to have a dig for the code, it won't be pretty, as I stitched it
 together for a quick overview of Italian before a trip last year.  I don't
 know if the Japanese character set is supported.
 
 I'll send it through as soon as I find it, may be 24 hours though
 ezuall
 
 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Pander-2 (via Nabble) 
 ml-user+35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.comml-user%2b35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ezuall,

 Do you still have the code or the changes you applied? Could you send
 them to me?

 By the way, which language was it? If it is Japanese, I'm also
 interested in the data files.

 Thanks,

 Pander

 ezuall wrote:
 Hi there,

 Last year I used PyFlash, but I'm not sure which distribution I was
 running at that time.  I know it was easy to get it running, only a few
 chages were necesarry.  I was using it for learning language at the time, so
 I added a line for pronunciation as well, which worked better in landscape
 mode for learning phrases.
 Cheers
 ezuall

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Re: Google Summer of Code

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:42:47 +0100
Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote:

 2009/3/31 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de
 
  On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100
  Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   i think there is none
   shr (or fso?) got rejected
 
  Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were
  rejected.
 
 
 Out of interest, did the rejection have anything to do with Android
 being a Google product and a competitor to SHR/FSO?

I don't know, the mail didn't say and I don't think it would if it were
the case.
Apart from that I don't think they view us as a competitor. At most I
guess they see us as a redundant effort. Even more of a reason to prove
them wrong. :-)

Regards,
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Re: Google Summer of Code

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:10:32 +0100
Arigead captain.dea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Daniel Willmann wrote:
  On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100
  Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  i think there is none
  shr (or fso?) got rejected
  
  Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were
  rejected. Everybody is still welcome to work on cool projects,
  though. :-)
  
 Are you mentoring ? ;-)

Depends. What do you have in mind? :-)


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Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-01 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:44 AM, leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote:

 hi all,

 As I did for Qtopia, I’ve recompiled my un-predictive keyboard for
 qt-extended-improved. It is a patched version of the matchbox keyboard
 that comes with Qt made usable without a stylus.I’ve changed the layout
 from last time I touched it :

* I found out how to suppress the hints bar, that never had any real
 use for me
* I used wider picks to help people that do not play guitar and have
 regular size nails :-)
* In the sourcecode you can find an attempt to use screen rotation
 (disabled now) to automatically switch to wide mode when sending sms. I
 didn’t have time to make it work.

 then you have to chose at each boot, the default one can not be changed.

 if you want screenshots explain me how to have them with qtextended :-)

 codebin here:

 http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/01/qt-extended-un-predictive-keyboard/

 I put the whole keyboard source dir in the zip but i think I have only
 touched keyboardframe.cpp. I will send a patch for the git soon.

 ciao,
 leonardo.


Hi,

I'm very interested in testing this, but the source isn't in the zipfile ...
For the screenshots, maybe you can try
http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=18 ?

Franky
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using toolchain

2009-04-01 Thread Anas Alzouhbi
Hello!
I read the document of toolchain on:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain
I arrived until this command:
*  Extract it directly as root, so use command su first (or
prefix the tar command with sudo when you are using Debian/Ubuntu):

  cd /
  tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2

I don't understand what I have to write in command exactly, I'm
working on Debian
but I runned this command: sudo tar -xjvf
~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
 but I obtained this error:
tar: /root/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 :
la fonction open a échoué: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
tar: Erreur non récupérable : arrêt du traitement
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Des erreurs ont provoqué l'arrêt du programme

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Re: using toolchain

2009-04-01 Thread arne anka
 I don't understand what I have to write in command exactly, I'm
 working on Debian
 but I runned this command: sudo tar -xjvf
 ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2

i don't know how good sudo is supported nowadays in debian, but i prefer  
to _be_ root instead:
su -
and then do it again without sudo.

  but I obtained this error:
 tar: /root/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 :
 la fonction open a échoué: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
 tar: Erreur non récupérable : arrêt du traitement
 tar: Child returned status 2
 tar: Des erreurs ont provoqué l'arrêt du programme

my french is rather rusty, but it might mean that you either don't have  
bzip2 installed or that the archive is corrupt.

i strongly urge you to use the second attempt suggested:

   bunzip2 openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
   gzip openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar
   fakeroot alien -d openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.gz
   sudo dpkg -i openmoko_*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain*.deb

thus you have far more control over the files installed and you could  
remove them easily. additionally, the chances to break your system are  
significantly smaller.

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help for development in 5 minutes

2009-04-01 Thread Anas Alzouhbi
Hello!
I read this document
http://andreasdalsgaard.blogspot.com/2008/07/openmoko-development-in-5-minutes.html;
in order to build a simple helloworld porgram on my openmoko
I'm going to start with this command:
wget http://smartere.dk/openmoko/openmoko-toolchain_0.20080521-ubuntu6_i386.deb
sudo dpkg -i openmoko-toolchain_0.20080521-ubuntu6_i386.deb
what I have to write instead of ubuntu6, if I'm working on Debian,
and is not necessary to work as root user??

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Re: help for development in 5 minutes

2009-04-01 Thread arne anka
 wget  
 http://smartere.dk/openmoko/openmoko-toolchain_0.20080521-ubuntu6_i386.deb
 sudo dpkg -i openmoko-toolchain_0.20080521-ubuntu6_i386.deb
 what I have to write instead of ubuntu6, if I'm working on Debian,

nothing different -- the ubuntu6 comes frome the package (file) name and  
has to be there.
with wget you donwload a file with the name

openmoko-toolchain_0.20080521-ubuntu6_i386.deb

to your current directory.
with dpkg -i you install that very same file -- thus the ubuntu6 has to  
be there because it is part of the filename.

 and is not necessary to work as root user??

for installing packages you need to be root. either via login or su or  
sudo.

reading your posts i've got the impression you are not very familiar with  
your linux/debian box -- it would probably be more sensible to get  
aquainted with your debian before trying anything more complex.

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[ALL] Software based buzz fix!

2009-04-01 Thread boilersoup boilersoup
Hi All,

after deep brainstorming
and heavy engineering,

here is the result: http://tiny.cc/WcbIn
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Re: community Digest, Vol 125, Issue 16

2009-04-01 Thread Anas Alzouhbi
I did this command
y011pc99:/# bunzip2 openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
but I obtained:
bunzip2: Can't open input file
openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2: No such file or
directory.
what I have to do


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 From: Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:55:50 +0200
 Subject: Re: Learning with flashcards - granule
 Ezuall,

 Thanks, don't worry about the prettiness. I'll fix it up and package it.

 Regards and thanks in advance,

 Pander

 ezuall wrote:
 Pander,

 I'll have to have a dig for the code, it won't be pretty, as I stitched it
 together for a quick overview of Italian before a trip last year.  I don't
 know if the Japanese character set is supported.

 I'll send it through as soon as I find it, may be 24 hours though
 ezuall

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Pander-2 (via Nabble) 
 ml-user+35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.comml-user%2b35848-1247512...@n2.nabble.com
 wrote:

 Hi Ezuall,

 Do you still have the code or the changes you applied? Could you send
 them to me?

 By the way, which language was it? If it is Japanese, I'm also
 interested in the data files.

 Thanks,

 Pander

 ezuall wrote:
 Hi there,

 Last year I used PyFlash, but I'm not sure which distribution I was
 running at that time.  I know it was easy to get it running, only a few
 chages were necesarry.  I was using it for learning language at the time, so
 I added a line for pronunciation as well, which worked better in landscape
 mode for learning phrases.
 Cheers
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 From: Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de
 To: commun...@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:00:20 +0200
 Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code
 On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:42:47 +0100
 Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote:

 2009/3/31 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de

  On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100
  Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   i think there is none
   shr (or fso?) got rejected
 
  Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were
  rejected.


 Out of interest, did the rejection have anything to do with Android
 being a Google product and a competitor to SHR/FSO?

 I don't know, the mail didn't say and I don't think it would if it were
 the case.
 Apart from that I don't think they view us as a competitor. At most I
 guess they see us as a redundant effort. Even more of a reason to prove
 them wrong. :-)

 Regards,
 Daniel Willmann


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 From: Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de
 To: commun...@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:04:26 +0200
 Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code
 On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:10:32 +0100
 Arigead captain.dea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Daniel Willmann wrote:
  On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100
  Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  i think there is none
  shr (or fso?) got rejected
 
  Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were
  rejected. Everybody is still welcome to work on cool projects,
  though. :-)
 
 Are you mentoring ? ;-)

 Depends. What do you have in mind? :-)


 Regards,
 Daniel Willmann


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 To: commun...@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:27:07 +0200
 Subject: using toolchain
 Hello!
 I read the document of toolchain on:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain
 I arrived until this command:
     *  Extract it directly as root, 

Re: [ALL] Software based buzz fix!

2009-04-01 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
LOL X-D

2009/4/1 boilersoup boilersoup boilers...@gmail.com:
 Hi All,

 after deep brainstorming
 and heavy engineering,

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[200X.Y] toolchain. was Re: community Digest, Vol 125, Issue 16

2009-04-01 Thread arne anka
 I did this command
 y011pc99:/# bunzip2 openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
 but I obtained:
 bunzip2: Can't open input file
 openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2: No such file or
 directory.
 what I have to do


for starters:
- stop with opening yet another thread for the same problem
- read the answers
- do not reply with full mails (especially not with the daily digest! who  
is supposed to read all that?), but cut it down to the parts necessary

replace openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 with the full  
filename and try again.

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Re: [ALL] Software based buzz fix!

2009-04-01 Thread Juergen Schinker
boilersoup boilersoup wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 after deep brainstorming
 and heavy engineering,

you really got me

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Re: AGPS Thoughts

2009-04-01 Thread Helge Hafting
Al Johnson wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
[...]
 The info cannot be considered very secret, seeing that O2 already
 broadcast such stuff. Or for Germans, ask them if they can provide the
 same kind of location service so you won't have to switch to O2. ;-)
 
 In the UK they would prefer this data to be secret - see link below.

I see. Still, I see that the not entirely up-to-date information they 
have may be forcibly released. That ought to help for AGPS purposes, 
even if some new towers aren't listed.

And then there is the hope that at least some telcos will see the light.

Helge Hafting


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which way is the easier

2009-04-01 Thread Anas Alzouhbi
Hello!
I succeed to do the ssh with my openmoko,but
the ways that I have found  to arrive to build the first program are:
1 - Documentation: Building a helloworld application, which needs to
prepare to it to build openmoko from scratch, which have in
prerequisites to follow getting started steps of openEmbedded
2- Customizing the openmoko distribution (I think this is way is
easier than the first) this requires to build teh Mokomakefile
3- Documentation: Openmoko application development in 5 minutes.
4- Follow the toolchain
 and others
which do you recommend for a starter to follow until finish??

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Re: which way is the easier

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel.Li
Hi Anas,

I'm also interested in FR, and I'm a fresh man to this. 
As we all know that there are about three SW levels, which is
u-boot,kernel,Application.


On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 13:21 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote:
 Hello!
 I succeed to do the ssh with my openmoko,but
 the ways that I have found  to arrive to build the first program are:
 1 - Documentation: Building a helloworld application, which needs to
 prepare to it to build openmoko from scratch, which have in
 prerequisites to follow getting started steps of openEmbedded
 2- Customizing the openmoko distribution (I think this is way is
 easier than the first) this requires to build teh Mokomakefile
Well, currently, there are lots of distribution
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions .
If u like Mokomakefile, then OE should be started first, I'm on this,
but slowly :(

 3- Documentation: Openmoko application development in 5 minutes.
I think this one is easy to do, I mean provide a hello world :) 

 4- Follow the toolchain
Yeah, tool chain also can be built by your self, if it's just for hello
world. I think it's *NOT* that difficult.

  and others
 which do you recommend for a starter to follow until finish??

Well, it's hard to say, which one do u prefer? :) Just your choice,
right? :):):)
 
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Re: [200X.Y] toolchain. was Re: community Digest, Vol 125, Issue 16

2009-04-01 Thread arne anka
 you said replace openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 with the  
 full
 filename and try again, you mean the filename of what??
 I big you hlep

well, the name of the file you fetched with wget, of course.

there are two possibilities:

http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/openmoko-i686-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
or
http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/openmoko-x86_64-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2

depending on your system (x86, 32 bit or 64 bit) you need to download the  
right one.

thus instead of openmoko-*-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
use
openmoko-i686-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
or
openmoko-x86_64-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
respectively.

next step could be

tar -txjvf  openmoko-i686-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2

which would only _list_ the contents, _not_ extract.
 from here do as you wish, i strongly advise you, to convert it to a deb  
and install the deb, as pointed out by the snippet i quoted.

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Re: Openmoko for blind users?

2009-04-01 Thread Helge Hafting
Crane, Matthew wrote:
 Seems to me OM would be a good platform to quickly implement something
 like this on a working phone.  
 
 http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127015.700-vibrating-touch-scree
 n-puts-braille-at-the-fingertips.html

There quite a few ways to help the blind using this phone:

* Some aren't completely blind, and can be helped with an
   enormous font. Up to one character covering the display,
   if need be.

* USB have some options. One can connect a keyboard or a smaller
   numerical keyboard. Of course these can have braille keys.

* It is also possible to connect a braille output device
   braille screen?. Such devices works well with the
   command-line interface. We already have a command-line
   app for sending SMS. Adding command-line apps for making calls and
   reading SMS isn't hard either.

* speech synthesizers can read sms (and other stuff) over the speaker.
   Free ones exists, for quite a few languages.

Being open, it isn't that hard to install alternative software. There 
are already linux software for the blind.

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Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-01 Thread leonardo
Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto:


 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:44 AM, leona...@lilik.it
^
 I'm very interested in testing this, but the source isn't in the zipfile ...

that happens when you do posts at 2AM. :-)
I will update it as soon as possible an try to fix the bug too.

I've been using a different layout for months that works ok for me, but
has little picks for most of the people. Changing the layout isn't so
difficult.

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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:46:26 +0100
Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote:

 with OM support i would surely like the fix to be applied

I am currently waiting for the phones to arrive, until then I can't
promise anything.
Since the FSOSHRUDCON has been postponed I'm currently aiming at March
1st through March 3rd for the buzz fix party.

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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:54:59 +0200
Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:

 Daniel Willmann dan...@openmoko.org writes:
  I have now performed a couple buzz fixes and feel pretty confident
  that I'll fix more phones than I'll break in the process. :-)
  (I haven't broken any phones until now)
 
 Cool, have you thought about accepting phones to be sent to you by
 mail? I'm sure you could ask for a fee to cover your time and material
 costs.

Yeah, many requests have reached me and I'll accept phones sent to me.
The only issue is that I'm not going to pay for sending back the phones
so we'll have to arrange for something there.

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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:08:16 +0100
Joerg Lippmann jl_li...@donalbain.de wrote:

 Am Sonntag 15 März 2009 schrieb Daniel Willmann:
 
  In order to gauge interest and plan ahead wrt ordering
  Resistors/Capacitors I'd like to know how many phones would come.
  The party will probably take place in mid April.
  If you are interested and would show up please mail me privately and
  also tell me how many phones you would bring.
 
  If all goes well I'll be doing this with support from Openmoko and
  will be able to replace any Freerunners I break in the process.
 
 Hmmm, Braunschweig is about 300km from my home town. Is there a way
 to get my phone fixed as well without spending the whole day on the
 road (maybe send it to you?)

I'm considering mail delivery as an option. The only problem I have is
that I need to get the money for the return package. Don't know how we
could handle that best...

 I have terrible buzz *always* when I use my phone at home, no matter
 what distribution. So all the time when I happen to be at home and
 get a call I have to shout to the other party to call me on the land
 line. Really embarrassing to have to use an expensive phone thats
 broken by design and the manufacturer does not bother to fix it
 immediatly at no cost.

Well, the buzz issue was fixed on all of the phones I did the rework
on. And to be fair OM is supporting me (hopefully soon) with
replacement phones for the ones I break and components...


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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-04-01 Thread arne anka
 Since the FSOSHRUDCON has been postponed I'm currently aiming at March
 1st through March 3rd for the buzz fix party.

uh, you did check the calendar, did you?

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Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard

2009-04-01 Thread Werner Almesberger
Helge Hafting wrote:
 Hm. But the glamo supports _some_ format. Will X11 be able to take
 advantage of that, if the app is smart and request exactly the subsets 
 of blending operations/dataformats that the glamo can do?

That would be a question for the X11 gurus.

 I have such a script for sms, but not for calls. I can send a message 
 like this:
 
   # sms 123456789 Short message text

Great ! So all we need is a dialer, a contacts database (just
use something like $HOME/contacts/$name with maybe a
^key\s+value\s$ structure inside ?), and an SMS reader.
April 1 is not over yet ;-)

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Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-01 Thread HouYu Li
Oh... this sound interesting... I will try it.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:38 PM, leonardo leona...@lilik.it wrote:

 Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto:


  On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:44 AM, leona...@lilik.it
 ^
  I'm very interested in testing this, but the source isn't in the zipfile
 ...

 that happens when you do posts at 2AM. :-)
 I will update it as soon as possible an try to fix the bug too.

 I've been using a different layout for months that works ok for me, but
 has little picks for most of the people. Changing the layout isn't so
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$299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-01 Thread Joseph Reeves
Dear all,

I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap!

http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner

# GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD
# GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD
# GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD

Not an April Fools thing is it?

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Re: date and GPS related questions

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:15:34 +0300
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Daniel Willmann dan...@openmoko.org writes:
  I think (not sure) that Qt Extended uses the time(zone)
  cellbroadcast messages which are broadcasted by some operators. 
 
 Looks like +CTZV unsolicited message doesn't actually supply timezone
 information (which must include country-specific DST information),
 only current offset to UTC (or GMT even?), so it's somewhat useless
 anyway.

Right, though you do know which country the network belongs to so with
some nasty assumptions you could probably find the right timezone..
IMO it's not worth the trouble, though.

 Am i missing something?
Probably not.

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Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-01 Thread Cédric Berger
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap!

 http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner

 # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD
 # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD
 # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD

 Not an April Fools thing is it?

This must be in-stock phones, and as next ones (GTA2 A7) should have
some buzz fix already done at factory, these old ones will loose
value I would say...

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Re: [Qt Extended] debian image

2009-04-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
 i have uploaded the debian based rootfs here [1]. All the patches
 to QTE Improved GIT were sent on this list yesterday.

Nice.  The next step is to package QtE so it can be installed via
apt-get.


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Re: using toolchain

2009-04-01 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 11:27 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote:
 Hello!
 I read the document of toolchain on:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain
 I arrived until this command:
 *  Extract it directly as root, so use command su first (or
 prefix the tar command with sudo when you are using Debian/Ubuntu):
 
   cd /
   tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
 
 I don't understand what I have to write in command exactly, I'm
 working on Debian
 but I runned this command: sudo tar -xjvf
 ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
  but I obtained this error:
 tar: /root/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 :
 la fonction open a échoué: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
 tar: Erreur non récupérable : arrêt du traitement
 tar: Child returned status 2
 tar: Des erreurs ont provoqué l'arrêt du programme

It;s not finding the file. You need to replace the
~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 below with
the filename and location that you downloaded.

tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2

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Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-01 Thread Joseph Reeves
That would make sense...

After a bit of googling for belgium openmoko (a perfectly normal
search term, honest...) I found this reseller that I'd never seen
before:

https://kd85.com/openmoko.html

Seems to have taken delivery of 180/200:

http://openmoko.kd85.com/images/

and is selling them on at a very good price, has been doing so since
November last year. Openmoko stock clearance?

Cheers, Joseph



2009/4/1 Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap!

 http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner

 # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD
 # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD
 # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD

 Not an April Fools thing is it?

 This must be in-stock phones, and as next ones (GTA2 A7) should have
 some buzz fix already done at factory, these old ones will loose
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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-04-01 Thread Pander
Hi all,

For me from centre of the Netherlands it is 413 km, 4 hours by car.

I have been of the list for a while. When is the exact date for this fix
party?

Any one else from the Netherlands or Belgium thinking about going there
by car? Perhaps car pulling is an option. Four OpenMoko geeks will have
plenty to talk about in 4 hours of driving ;) Possibly we could bring
even more devices to fix.

What about the resellers, are they having their stock fixed?

Regards,

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Re: started with openembedded

2009-04-01 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:41 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote:
 Thank you for your recommandation, I'm a new user and programmer on
 Linux, could you help me how can I run my commands as normal user,
 with the problem of permission of creating directories.
 what do you mean start from scratch or do a chown on directories.
 Thank you for you help that I big it
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:45 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote:
  hello!
  I followed the instruction written in
  http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started,
  I arrived to this command git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded
  but it shows this error:
  fatal: could not create work tree dir 'openembedded'.
  what must I do
 
 
  Hi Anas
 
  From looking at some of your other mails you've been running some
  commands as root. It's not necessary and dangerous. It's probably a
  permission problem on the directory, so either start from scratch
  somewhere else as a normal user or do a chown on the directories you're
  working in.
 
  Angus
 
 

Please keep the thread on list

Google pointed out a few links

http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Debian_newbie_help_documentation
http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_started

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Re: date and GPS related questions

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel Willmann
Hi,

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:59:20 +0900
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 No, otimed sucks for a number of reasons (not the least being hard
 coded to an NTP server somewhere in Europe) so control like you are
 after is critical.

just wanted to follow up on this.
From the sample frameworkd.conf file:
#
# Subsystem configuration for otimed
#
[otimed]
# a list of time/zone sources to use or NONE
timesources = GPS,NTP
zonesources = GSM

It would be nice to change that at runtime, patches welcome. :-)

 In Perth Australia, vodafone appears to have my location set to Lord
 Howe Island - some 3000+ km away in the pacific - I am near the Indian
 Ocean.  As well, I suspect they are not sending local time, but time
 as it is in the eastern states (2hr diff).  Is there a way to get the
 gsm to print the data as to what it thinks it is? - some command in
 mickeyterm? - be nice to confirm and know what its actually doing as I
 certainly cant trust the FR to get it right.

Framework debugging should tell you.

 The freerunner by design seems unable to keep accurate time unless you
 are in Europe ...

Well, timekeeping is independent from that. The UTC time will stay
right no matter what timezone you're in.

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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-04-01 Thread Yogiz
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:09:15 +0200
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

  Since the FSOSHRUDCON has been postponed I'm currently aiming at
  March 1st through March 3rd for the buzz fix party.
 
 uh, you did check the calendar, did you?

I think he did. 334 days in not that much, is it?

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Re: date and GPS related questions

2009-04-01 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 18:15 +0200, Daniel Willmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:59:20 +0900
 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
  No, otimed sucks for a number of reasons (not the least being hard
  coded to an NTP server somewhere in Europe) so control like you are
  after is critical.
 
 just wanted to follow up on this.
 From the sample frameworkd.conf file:
 #
 # Subsystem configuration for otimed
 #
 [otimed]
 # a list of time/zone sources to use or NONE
 timesources = GPS,NTP
 zonesources = GSM
 
 It would be nice to change that at runtime, patches welcome. :-)

For counties that have more than one timezone make sure
that /etc/localtime is COPIED from /usr/share/zoneinfo
and  /etc/timezone is properly set as well.

In /etc/frameworkd.conf change zonesources to 

zonesources = NONE

 
  In Perth Australia, vodafone appears to have my location set to Lord
  Howe Island - some 3000+ km away in the pacific - I am near the Indian
  Ocean.  As well, I suspect they are not sending local time, but time
  as it is in the eastern states (2hr diff).  Is there a way to get the
  gsm to print the data as to what it thinks it is? - some command in
  mickeyterm? - be nice to confirm and know what its actually doing as I
  certainly cant trust the FR to get it right.
 
 Framework debugging should tell you.
 
  The freerunner by design seems unable to keep accurate time unless you
  are in Europe ...
 
 Well, timekeeping is independent from that. The UTC time will stay
 right no matter what timezone you're in.
 

The timezone packets for multi timezone countries aren't processed
properly yet.

Angus


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Re: Need help with Log Message

2009-04-01 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 01 April 2009, waqar afridi wrote:
 hi i m new comer to the openmoko community and m highly interested in it. i
 have flashed a new kernel in my openmoko but can not get *messages* file
 in my /var/log/. can any one help.

Use logread to see the log contents.


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Re: AGPS Thoughts

2009-04-01 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 01 April 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
 Al Johnson wrote:
  On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:

 [...]

  The info cannot be considered very secret, seeing that O2 already
  broadcast such stuff. Or for Germans, ask them if they can provide the
  same kind of location service so you won't have to switch to O2. ;-)
 
  In the UK they would prefer this data to be secret - see link below.

 I see. Still, I see that the not entirely up-to-date information they
 have may be forcibly released. That ought to help for AGPS purposes,
 even if some new towers aren't listed.

It may have been released, but they still hold the copyright. In many (most?) 
jurisdictions you will need a license to use it for AGPS purposes, and I doubt 
they'll be granting one. 

 And then there is the hope that at least some telcos will see the light.

Indeed,  but on past experience I expect to be waiting a long time!

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Re: [Qt Extended] debian image

2009-04-01 Thread Radek Polak
Stefan Monnier wrote:
 Nice.  The next step is to package QtE so it can be installed via
 apt-get.
 
 
 Stefan


Yes, i was thinking exactly the same. There are some things that
have to be solved cleanly before this can be done. E.g. the udev
rule for GSM modem. I have described it in my howto.

Radek

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Re: Need help with Log Message

2009-04-01 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:21:03 +0500
waqar afridi afridi.wa...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi i m new comer to the openmoko community and m highly interested in
 it. i have flashed a new kernel in my openmoko but can not get
 *messages* file in my /var/log/. can any one help.

use logread, or edit /etc/syslog.conf and change buffer to file,
then restart.

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Re: [QT Extended Improved] on debian rootfs with 2.6.28

2009-04-01 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:17:42 +0200
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:

 Hi,
 i am now working on QTE running on debian rootfs with
 recent kernel (latest andy-tracking).
 
 Right now i think i have working all that i was using
 with QTE 4.4.3 from here [1]. This basically is:
 
 * working SMS/calls
 * GPRS
 * suspend/resume
 
 Attached are patches that i used and work-in progress
 howto. I will upload whole rootfs during this week.

Radek,

you first patch activates gstreamer. Is this on purpose or just because
it works on debian? Or does it work on fso based rootfs systems as well?
When I tried your patches, together with the one from Filip for the usb
cable, the system compiled just fine. But after that: I want a
uimage+jffs2 based system to work with, and debian only installs on SD.
So I tried different scenarios:

- the one recommended with QtEi (without the 2.6.28 patches), but then
  the system doesn't wake up for sms
- the old stable Om2008.12 uimage (without the 2.6.28 patches), but
  then I got the sms duplication issue (but it did wake up from suspend
  for sms's though)
- the fso-console image (with 2.6.28 patches, halting frameworkd and
  fso specific stuff): with the gstreamer patch, I didn't get any sound
  (even after installing everything possible for gstreamer). Without it
  (and using the libmad mp3 patch), it was ok. But voice note recording
  didn't work (and I doubt the bluetooth stuff as well, but didn't got
  around of testing that).
- the hackable:1 distro: never got further than second boot, ssh not
  possible. It seems it wants my SIM card to continue or so ...

I would put my money on working with the fso-console image, and going
from there to build a workable system (maybe even using a small script
that disables frameworkd, installs QtExtended and all that).

So: which uimage to choose? Maybe I messed up the
testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin tests, so if anyboy can confirm
that their system does wake up using this kernel ... ?

Franky

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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-01 Thread Davide Scaini
Nice! it works, it seems to me that the category Office is compulsory.
I tried minimo, it's really fast!
thank you i'll post my impression on this fabulous shr!
d

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Steven ** 
montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.commontgoss%2bopenmokocommun...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 This has happened to me before when Illume didn't like the combination
 of categories I used.  Copy/paste the categories from a working
 desktop file and see if that helps.

 -Steven

 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote:
  yes, yesterday i tried making new files in the dir you specified, but
 with
  no luck (no new icon appeared)... i'll try again, thanks for your reply!
  d

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Re: [QT Extended Improved] on debian rootfs with 2.6.28

2009-04-01 Thread Radek Polak
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

  But after that: I want a
 uimage+jffs2 based system to work with, and debian only installs on SD.

Hi Franky,
i wanted to make jffs2 filesystem too. Just didnt get to it yet. It
should be possible. The rootfs is not very big. I think that jffs2
can be made just by untaring the and using mkfs.jffs2 as descibed
here [1]. The kernel is in the tarbal so this should be ok. And last
thing might be needed is changing /etc/fstab - you can use your
current fstab for reference. Maybe this step is not needed and my
fstab can handle jffs2 too.

I could try this - maybe tomorrow?

Radek


[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Userspace_root_image

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Re: [QT Extended Improved] on debian rootfs with 2.6.28

2009-04-01 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:06:22 +0200
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:

 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 
   But after that: I want a
  uimage+jffs2 based system to work with, and debian only installs on
  SD.
 
 Hi Franky,
 i wanted to make jffs2 filesystem too. Just didnt get to it yet. It
 should be possible. The rootfs is not very big. I think that jffs2
 can be made just by untaring the and using mkfs.jffs2 as descibed
 here [1]. The kernel is in the tarbal so this should be ok. And last
 thing might be needed is changing /etc/fstab - you can use your
 current fstab for reference. Maybe this step is not needed and my
 fstab can handle jffs2 too.


hmmm ... I just tried creating the jffs2, it's 164 MB, about double the
size of any other rootfs (I already removed the kernel uimage then).
I'm trying it now, but it will take so much longer to transfer that
amount of data ...
Btw: does anybody have any idea how to get gstreamer to work with a
fso-based rootfs? That might reduce the size of the image *a lot* ...
and maybe solve the sound recording issue and such ...

Franky

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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:09:15 +0200
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

  Since the FSOSHRUDCON has been postponed I'm currently aiming at
  March 1st through March 3rd for the buzz fix party.
 
 uh, you did check the calendar, did you?

Yeah, off-by-two. :-)
I meant May 1st through May 3rd.

Regards,
Daniel Willmann


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Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-01 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Jospeh,

That is where i got my  FR.
Good reseller, i would buy there again.

Kind regards,
Ed

Joseph Reeves wrote:
 That would make sense...

 After a bit of googling for belgium openmoko (a perfectly normal
 search term, honest...) I found this reseller that I'd never seen
 before:

 https://kd85.com/openmoko.html

 Seems to have taken delivery of 180/200:

 http://openmoko.kd85.com/images/

 and is selling them on at a very good price, has been doing so since
 November last year. Openmoko stock clearance?

 Cheers, Joseph



 2009/4/1 Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com:
   
 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear all,

 I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap!

 http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner

 # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD
 # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD
 # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD

 Not an April Fools thing is it?
   
 This must be in-stock phones, and as next ones (GTA2 A7) should have
 some buzz fix already done at factory, these old ones will loose
 value I would say...

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Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-01 Thread leona...@lilik.it
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:44 AM, leona...@lilik.it
 Hi,
 
 I'm very interested in testing this, but the source isn't in the zipfile ...
 For the screenshots, maybe you can try
 http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=18 ?

http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/01/qt-extended-un-predictive-keyboard/

here we go, you can find the source code in the zip and the .so
including bugfix to make the first row not overlap with the prediction row.

ciao,
leonardo.

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Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-01 Thread Steve Mosher
Its the real deal.

Shipping from US only.

Sean gave a great speech at ESC and he was join by Bill Gatliff who 
reviewed his experience with the platform. This is a new market for
us, one not so driven by the needs of a daily phone. more of a
hardware hacker crowd who care more about the availability of schematics.



Joseph Reeves wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap!
 
 http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner
 
 # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD
 # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD
 # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD
 
 Not an April Fools thing is it?
 
 Cheers, Joseph
 
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Re: date and GPS related questions

2009-04-01 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 18:15 +0200, Daniel Willmann wrote:
 Hi,
 

 Well, timekeeping is independent from that. The UTC time will stay
 right no matter what timezone you're in.
 

Unfortunately it doesnt - wanders all over the place, usually lagging.
If I notice it, I usually find otimed.py has overwritten my changes to
the ntp reference (a local timeserver helps a lot - but its still not
great).  Depending on where I am connected to, it may or may not see the
site in Germany, which may or may not be extremely slow/lagged.  If it
gets too far out, you have to manually set it.  It looks like it often
just refuses to work.  Nothing in the logs.  I also noticed yesterday
it says checking every 600 seconds - then it went off and started
checking just over every 60 seconds.




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Re: [Qt Extended] debian image

2009-04-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Yes, i was thinking exactly the same. There are some things that
 have to be solved cleanly before this can be done. E.g. the udev
 rule for GSM modem. I have described it in my howto.

The udev rule seems easy to fix: rather than put it in
/media/card/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules, put it in a new file
/media/card/etc/udev/rules.d/50-qtextended.rules


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Re: [QT Extended Improved] patch: 0001-using-uevent-to-get-kernel-notifications-for-usb-cable-changed.txt

2009-04-01 Thread HouYu Li
That's great..Now QtEI should work better on kernel 2.6.28. I will do a
test soon.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Filip Onkelinx fi...@linux4.be wrote:

 Hi,

 attached is a patch to use uevent to get kernel notifications for
 'usb-cable-changed' in QtExtended on recent kernels (=2.6.28).
 On 'older' kernels (2.6.28), this information was comming in trough
 /dev/input/event4 but this is no longer working (there is a ticket for this
 at https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2254 ).
 With this patch my FR switches correctly from battery power savings scheme
 to online pwoer scheme, and usb networking goes up/down as expected.
 Same mechanism could be used to re-implement an event based neobattery.

 This patch should not break 2.6.24 compatibility.

 Cheers,

 Filip.

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[no subject]

2009-04-01 Thread Nacho Seijo
2009/4/1 KaZeR ka...@altern.org

 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann a écrit :
  +1 from me.
 
  I'm using unstable as primary phone. And so far had no real problems.
 
  I remember though that somebody had strange problems receiving SMS. If
 that's
  still valid please stand up and speak :-)
 
 
 /me stands up.


I stand up too.



 Latest unstable is nice : fast compared to other distros, GPS works
 fine, a lot of good things.
 But the sms apps still tends to segfault when launched. And sometimes
 some messages aren't viewable using the GUI, but i can see them using
 AT+CMGL


I'm having exactly this problem with sms that don't appear on sms app.
But puting the sim in another phone they appear as read.
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Re:

2009-04-01 Thread Nacho Seijo
uppps!
sorry i made a mistake sending this mail. it was for the shr list

2009/4/2 Nacho Seijo lists.na...@gmail.com

 2009/4/1 KaZeR ka...@altern.org

 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann a écrit :
  +1 from me.
 
  I'm using unstable as primary phone. And so far had no real problems.
 
  I remember though that somebody had strange problems receiving SMS. If
 that's
  still valid please stand up and speak :-)
 
 
 /me stands up.


 I stand up too.



 Latest unstable is nice : fast compared to other distros, GPS works
 fine, a lot of good things.
 But the sms apps still tends to segfault when launched. And sometimes
 some messages aren't viewable using the GUI, but i can see them using
 AT+CMGL


 I'm having exactly this problem with sms that don't appear on sms app.
 But puting the sim in another phone they appear as read.

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The draft of 15th community update

2009-04-01 Thread sushama
Dear All,

The draft for the 15th community update can be found here: 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/April_05%2C_2009

Please feel free to add/edit contents.I have not been able to gather much 
information about some distributions.If anyone could add some information 
regarding the same or anything else that I have missed out would be of great 
help. 

Thanks  and Regards,
Sushama



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Re: The draft of 15th community update

2009-04-01 Thread Paul Fertser
sushama sush...@openmoko.com writes:
 Please feel free to add/edit contents.I have not been able to gather much 
 information about some distributions.

No wonder, never seen you on an IRC channel where most FSO and SHR
devs gather and other important dev-related things happen.

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Re: [Debian] Chronometer

2009-04-01 Thread Mike Crash

Uploaded new version with implemented lap counter, but i have forget to remove 
\r in sources, may be later :|
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