Use my GSM from my laptop via USB (or BT, wifi) ?
Hi list Many great applications allow us to use the freerunner as a device for the laptop : * simulate a bluetooth GPS receiver : BtGps http://www.opkg.org/package_91.html * use the freerunner as a GPRS modem : GprsModem : http://www.opkg.org/package_205.html * use the freerunner as a Wi-Fi Hotspot Access Controller : CoovaChili : http://www.opkg.org/package_176.html * use the fr as a remote control : ReMoKo : http://www.opkg.org/package_14.html * etc. I would like people to tell me about the feasibility to use the GSM chipset from my laptop. What I want to be able to do is to * use one of the 3 connections : USB, Wifi or bluetooth between my laptop and my freerunner * start or answer a regular GSM call (not sip) * use my laptop speakers (or headset pluged in the out pin of my laptop) and the laptop microphone instead of those of the freerunner This way * we would be able to call hands free while working or surfing * there would be no buzz for the remote person talking to you * we could have a full answering machine software * etc. So my question are : * Is it feasible ? * Has someone the skills, time and will to develop some scripts or full software to do it ? Cheers Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] Git online
Hi all, I forked the tree of Radek and I've put all my changes online so far: http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/tree/master My current image is based on this code (except the screenshot app isn't in my binary release yet, I'm going to take this in as well next time I build it). I've also made another change that fixes the problem where you can't click on a OK or Cancel button in some dialog boxes. But I haven't put it online yet (not a really big thing). Now on to the next problem: it seems people don't get the gsm to register anymore after switching from Airplane mode. Needs testing and investigating, I will take this on. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Command-line Yaouh! clone
This program was started before Yaouh! was published. Initially, it only
downloaded the empty tiles, so I called it fill_gaps.py. For a long time, I
felt it's sufficient, so I didn't change it. Recently, I decided that I
need something smarter - I tried out Yaouh!, which didn't have some of the
funcionaltiy I wanted. The code was a bit messy, too.
I improved my program instead.
Now it includes:
* lists of fallback URLs,
* If-Modified-Since HTTP headers,
* removal of files unused for a specified time
* skipping files modified recently
* forcing download empty tiles
* customizing the fallback rules (currently, the fallback lists are
different for diffferent zoom levels)
It doesn't:
* take any command-line parameters
* have a GUI
* check md5 (it's not really needed with If-Modified-Since
* download in multiple threads
It's written in Python, so it could be used to improve Yaouh!. It requires
urllib for downloading, which might not be installed by default in some
distributions.
--
Cheers,
rhn#!/usr/bin/env python
import os
import os.path
import sys
#sys.path.pop(0)
import urllib2
import time
first_uri = 'http://b.andy.sandbox.cloudmade.com/tiles/cycle/%d/%d/%d.png'
#path = 'http://127.0.0.1:/tiles/cycle/%d/%d/%d.png'
fallback_uri = 'http://c.tile.openstreetmap.org/%d/%d/%d.png'
fallback_uri = 'http://c.tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/tile/%d/%d/%d.png'
age_threshold = 60 * 60 * 24
delete_threshold = 60 * 60 * 24 * 30
lowzoom = [first_uri, fallback_uri]
highzoom = [fallback_uri, fallback_uri]
class InvalidPathException(Exception):
pass
def get_file(full_path, url, force=False):
if force:
hdrs = {}
else:
hdrs = {'If-Modified-Since': time.strftime(%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S GMT, time.gmtime(os.stat(full_path)[-2]))}
request = urllib2.Request(url, headers=hdrs)
o = urllib2.urlopen(request)
a = o.read()
if len(a) == 0:
raise Exception('Downloaded empty file.')
outp = open(full_path, 'w')
outp.write(a)
outp.close()
def download(file_path, uri_list, params, force=False):
a, b, c = params
stats = os.stat(file_path)
for uri in uri_list:
try:
get_file(file_path, uri % (a, b, c), force)
os.utime(file_path, (stats.st_atime, time.time())) # is this needed?
return
except urllib2.HTTPError, e:
if e.code == 304:
os.utime(file_path, (stats.st_atime, time.time()))
print 'Up to date'
return
print e, 'falling back'
except Exception, e:
print e, 'falling back'
for dir_, subdirs, files in os.walk('.'):
for file_ in files:
file_path = os.path.join(dir_, file_)
try:
root, a, b, c = file_path[:-4].split('/') #TOSO: change to sys.path
a, b, c = int(a), int(b), int(c)
except:
print file_path, 'omitted'
continue
if a 14:
uris = highzoom
else:
uris = lowzoom
stats = os.stat(file_path)
if time.time() - stats.st_atime delete_threshold:
print 'DELETE', file_path
os.unlink(file_path)
elif stats.st_size == 0:
print 'NULL', file_path
download(file_path, uris, (a, b, c), True)
elif time.time() - stats.st_mtime age_threshold:
print 'FULL', file_path
download(file_path, uris, (a, b, c), False)
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Re: letter of recomendation
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ben Hussey brettja...@frumppyoldwoman.com wrote: Jodie, Here is the letter; let me know if you need any changes. I'll print a copy out to sign and have you send out, see you at home! -Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hmm.. suppose this was not planned to be posted to community mailing list..? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: letter of recomendation
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 10:29 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: ... Hmm.. suppose this was not planned to be posted to community mailing list..? r Did you stop to think that maybe this was a coded message for terrorists? Just sayin. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Robin Paulson schrieb: 2009/4/21 Matthias Felsche matthiasfels...@web.de: Dear list, a new application has been released at opkg.org: http://www.opkg.org/package_207.html http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator It's a recording application which records your speech via mic, the incoming gsm-sound only or both -- a whole phonecall. I hope you will enjoy it! Please gimme feedback on errors etc. great stuff. i love the interface, lovely big buttons is there any way to select which microphone it records from? i've got a usb mic that i want to use to record samples? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Well if you can record with your usb-mic via arecord it should not be a problem with dictator. Either you specify another soundcard than hw:0,0 in /etc/dictator.conf or it's a matter of the statefiles. I'm sorry but I can't test it here because i ain't got no usb-mic. But if you could tell me how you are using your microphone up to now with the freerunner, maybe i can help. matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 16th community update released
Yep , me 2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Piotr Duda openm...@nemezis.eu wrote: [...] We will try to find out what people want. Anybody still downloading the GTA01 images? yes, me. and there are others. do not forget about us. regards and best wishes. Piotr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Another feature request : Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would * answer automatically each incomming phonecall, * play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it * record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names for the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav) I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
rhn ha scritto: This program was started before Yaouh! was published. Initially, it only downloaded the empty tiles, so I called it fill_gaps.py. For a long time, I felt it's sufficient, so I didn't change it. Recently, I decided that I need something smarter - I tried out Yaouh!, which didn't have some of the funcionaltiy I wanted. The code was a bit messy, too. which funcionality do you want on yaouh? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
What about an integration into, let' say tangoGPS, which is written in gtk too? Another tab for recording voice-notes which are automatically linked into the tangoGPS track would be a pleasant solution to me. you could convert its track into gpx and upload it the way you like. But if OSMTracker does this job already and a daemon would be more suitable, maybe it's not worth the work. Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ? Have you any clue how to do it ? Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS data. If you to ask the GPS for the current location you get lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not connected to the phone at all. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Humm. Is there a OSMTracker version for the openmoko ? If so, could you please give a link ? Thanks in advance 2009/4/23 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de What about an integration into, let' say tangoGPS, which is written in gtk too? Another tab for recording voice-notes which are automatically linked into the tangoGPS track would be a pleasant solution to me. you could convert its track into gpx and upload it the way you like. But if OSMTracker does this job already and a daemon would be more suitable, maybe it's not worth the work. Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ? Have you any clue how to do it ? Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS data. If you to ask the GPS for the current location you get lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not connected to the phone at all. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: which funcionality do you want on yaouh? :) These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently * forcing download empty tiles Does someone actally know how much load it creates on (new :) OSM servers to update X mb of tiles with y% to be updated? Are there still ways to decrease this? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question
check udev, i got a rule making eth0 eth1 when eth0 already existed -- dunno what genius created that one. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
2009/4/23 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de: is there any way to select which microphone it records from? i've got a usb mic that i want to use to record samples? Well if you can record with your usb-mic via arecord it should not be a problem with dictator. Either you specify another soundcard than hw:0,0 in /etc/dictator.conf or it's a matter of the statefiles. that's cool, just what i was after - to know which file to set the config in cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: letter of recomendation
Hmm.. suppose this was not planned to be posted to community mailing list..? presumably, it is spam. did anyone check that pdf with a scanner? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
bicycling with OpenMoko
Hey, seen many messages about audio mapping the OSM with new app called 'Dictator' in neighbour thread and so on. But the first question that rises here is how to mount the phone on your bike? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question
On Thursday 23 April 2009 05:28:31 am arne anka wrote: check udev, i got a rule making eth0 eth1 when eth0 already existed -- dunno what genius created that one. Well it seems I managed to solve the device problem, after spending hours messing with it breaking down sending a message to this list then playing with it again, but now it doesn't want to grab an IP from the DHCP server. It may have something to do with the fact that I have two networks in the wpa_supplicant.conf and my freerunner is able to detect both, there priority levels are a bit off one is at 100 and the other is at 98 I'm sure this may be causing this problem. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bicycling with OpenMoko
Am Donnerstag, 23. April 2009 12:35:57 schrieb ivvmm: Hey, seen many messages about audio mapping the OSM with new app called 'Dictator' in neighbour thread and so on. But the first question that rises here is how to mount the phone on your bike? Build yourself something hacky and put the neo in. :D I've seen constructions of styrofoam, but wood's possible, too... -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: letter of recomendation
On Thursday 23 April 2009 03:42:52 am Ali wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 10:29 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: ... Hmm.. suppose this was not planned to be posted to community mailing list..? r Did you stop to think that maybe this was a coded message for terrorists? Just sayin. No according to this http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html they use Quake for that XD signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bicycling with OpenMoko
On Thursday 23 April 2009, ivvmm wrote: Hey, seen many messages about audio mapping the OSM with new app called 'Dictator' in neighbour thread and so on. But the first question that rises here is how to mount the phone on your bike? I made a mount out of polymorph - a trade name for a low melt plastic that feels similar to nylon, but becomes like putty at ~60C. Someone else routed a recess in a sheet of chipboard. I saw pictures of one made from folded acrylic sheet - very neat! Some have used commercial generic phone/pda holders. You could even go the whole hog and get an Otterbox PDA case with bike mount for all-weather ruggedness. At the other end of the scale someone was using a cable tie through the hole in the phone and round the handlebars! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting
Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: Any particular reason you omitted the list from Cc? Feel free to bring conversation back there, so everybody benefits. No reason, just hit reply like I did with all other posts. Only this time Gmail didn't address the list but you personally. Could have something to do with the fact that you wrote your reply to me and CC'd the list... That's how the mailing lists are supposed to work. Whenever you mean to send an answer to the mailing list, you're supposed to press Reply All (it can be called differently but the meaning is the same). That way you avoid accidentally sending a private e-mail to list btw. Moreover please take into account that the person you're writing a reply to may not be necessarily subscribed to the list (and everyone should be free to send mails to any list he desires to), so in case you reply to the list directly, the person you address might never receive it. Backing up the rootfs took about 10 minutes compared to +40 minutes with dfu-util and the complete image is merely 83M in size, whereas the file created by dfu-util is 247M when the backup is terminated due to the timeout! Does this mean that dfu-util backs up the entire disk (which according to the output below is approx the size of the resulting jffs2 image) and NeoTool only backs up the data that has been written? However even then 83M is less than what's reported in use. Or does NeoTool compress the data somehow? Yes, dfu-util doesn't care about filesystem, files etc, works on the whole NAND partition. And i guess with NeoTool you're using ssh actually. Perhaps (well actually likely) I'm missing something but as far as I understand you need a working distribution before you would be able to restore files via SSH. If your distro works at least somehow, you'll get ssh over usb access. If not, you can get a uSD image that works. Thanks again for the help, I'll play around some more tomorrow and will update the wiki based on your suggestions. Thank you, our wiki really needs to be more accurate. :) HTH -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: 2009/4/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: But I was wondering it if it can be powered from USB when the battery is full. And if not, how efficient it is to charge and discharge the battery at the same time. yes, i thought as much -- and was wondering why that should be totally unreasonable (and why the idea did not occur to other peoples). I just think that if it will be wired together will be more energy efficient to have an usb keyboard than a bt keyboard+bt neo antenna+neo battery drained by the keyboard , nevertheless I will try to measure how high is that drainage on charge and when battery is full charged when I got some free time If you remove/disable/don't-use the caps lock, scroll lock and num lock LEDs, the power consumption of an external USB keyboard will be minimal. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bicycling with OpenMoko
ivvmm a écrit : Hey, seen many messages about audio mapping the OSM with new app called 'Dictator' in neighbour thread and so on. But the first question that rises here is how to mount the phone on your bike? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Biking#Bike_Mounts ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question
you should be able, to determine the ap associated to by using the iwutils. does it also happen, when you execute the dhclient manually? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
communications with the processor
hello! 1- could you guide me where I can read about the communication between the processor and accelerometer (ex. protocole) 2- after connecting a gyroscope to the smarthphone, how can I read information, like first accelerometer, the information is written /dev/input/event2 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr-sms-chinese-character-support
On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 10:21 -0700, ykstortnilats wrote: Hi, You need a font that has Chinese characters. For instance I use fireflysung.ttf as my font. Google it and you'll find where to download it. Put the font file into /usr/share/fonts/truetype and you'll be able to choose it in illume-settings. And reboot :) http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#chinese_font_issue Thanks. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR desktop icon display issue.
Dear List, I found there is something wrong with latest SHR's desktop icon, see http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#shr_desktop_issue Is there anyway to fix the problem? THanks in advance. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bicycling with OpenMoko
That's the way to go :) I made something simple in about half an hour, using this [1] as insipration. Just get some Polymethylmethacrylat (PMMA - Plexiglas - marketing name here), a spare socket from a removable light, a jigsaw and a heat gun :) After you have something like this [2] you simply glue it on the socket with much hot melt adhesive and there you go. :) Btw. the hole in the Neo is great to tie it to the holder - just in case some accident happens or so. Timo [1]: http://www.rabenfrost.net/openmoko/bikemount/stencil.svg [2]: http://www.rabenfrost.net/openmoko/bikemount/100_5593.JPG Al Johnson schrieb: On Thursday 23 April 2009, ivvmm wrote: Hey, seen many messages about audio mapping the OSM with new app called 'Dictator' in neighbour thread and so on. But the first question that rises here is how to mount the phone on your bike? I made a mount out of polymorph - a trade name for a low melt plastic that feels similar to nylon, but becomes like putty at ~60C. Someone else routed a recess in a sheet of chipboard. I saw pictures of one made from folded acrylic sheet - very neat! Some have used commercial generic phone/pda holders. You could even go the whole hog and get an Otterbox PDA case with bike mount for all-weather ruggedness. At the other end of the scale someone was using a cable tie through the hole in the phone and round the handlebars! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bicycling with OpenMoko
ivvmm wrote: Hey, seen many messages about audio mapping the OSM with new app called 'Dictator' in neighbour thread and so on. But the first question that rises here is how to mount the phone on your bike? I have a generic phone holder for cars, that happen to fit the freerunner. I plan on attaching the other end to the cycle, shouldn't be hard to do. I have also found that for mapping, bringing the phone in a jacket pocket is sufficient. Just get a fix first, as the phone need good signal quality in order to download orbital data from the satellites. Such high quality is not necessary for keeping the fix thereafter, so a pocket is fine. Use a headset if you also want to do voice recording while bicycling. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: which funcionality do you want on yaouh? :) These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently How recent would that be? I run yaouh to get the latest tiles where I have updated the map. Of course, this is often the same tiles as I refreshed a couple of days earlier. So I think this has to be optional. Some kind of uses need to check fairly new tiles. * forcing download empty tiles What does that mean? Does someone actally know how much load it creates on (new :) OSM servers to update X mb of tiles with y% to be updated? Are there still ways to decrease this? A tile tends to be 10-30kB. Perhaps 20kB on average? A header check is about 100 byte. So X MB of tiles is about 1000X/20=50X tiles. All 50X tiles get checked, so 50X*100 byte is about 5X kB. Of these 50X tiles, y% gets updated, and is on average 20kB. so, 50X*y/100*20kB = 10Xy kB. So with these numbers, you get 5X+10Xy kB or (5+10y)X kB to transfer. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: letter of recomendation
did anyone check that pdf with a scanner? GMail does that for me automatically, but it would be fairly pointless to send an infected PDF to a mailing list full of Linux folks. There's no way even to tell what app we'll be reading it with. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently How recent would that be? I run yaouh to get the latest tiles where I have updated the map. Of course, this is often the same tiles as I refreshed a couple of days earlier. So I think this has to be optional. Some kind of uses need to check fairly new tiles. yep, of course optional and as you said, an addition to be able to download only tiles updated less than D days would be nice, too, I guess.. * forcing download empty tiles What does that mean? For example download every tile that has 2 (or 3 or four) neighbors downloaded to 'fill the gaps' in the map. Does someone actally know how much load it creates on (new :) OSM servers to update X mb of tiles with y% to be updated? Are there still ways to decrease this? So with these numbers, you get 5X+10Xy kB or (5+10y)X kB to transfer. So 300MB of tiles with 30% updated it would generate (5+10*30)*300 kB = 89MB or so.. ok.. I wonder if it's ok for OSM people if people start doing it like this a lot more than they now do. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently How recent would that be? I run yaouh to get the latest tiles where I have updated the map. Of course, this is often the same tiles as I refreshed a couple of days earlier. So I think this has to be optional. Some kind of uses need to check fairly new tiles. yep, of course optional and as you said, an addition to be able to download only tiles updated less than D days would be nice, too, I guess.. * forcing download empty tiles What does that mean? For example download every tile that has 2 (or 3 or four) neighbors downloaded to 'fill the gaps' in the map. Ah, excellent! It'd also be nice to have an option for automatically zooming out. That is, if I have a bunch of tiles at zoom 15 (downloaded using tangogps perhaps) then I want the zoom 14 tiles covering the same area, as well as the zoom 13 tiles, and so on all the way up to the top. Of course, the number of tiles quickly gets lower as one goes up, and usually hits a tile that is there already after a few levels. Does someone actally know how much load it creates on (new :) OSM servers to update X mb of tiles with y% to be updated? Are there still ways to decrease this? So with these numbers, you get 5X+10Xy kB or (5+10y)X kB to transfer. So 300MB of tiles with 30% updated it would generate (5+10*30)*300 kB = 89MB or so.. ok.. I wonder if it's ok for OSM people if people start doing it like this a lot more than they now do. If people start doing this a lot, then transparent proxies at the various ISPs will take much of the load. :-) Another thing that'd be nice to have, is duplicate tile detection. There are a lot of sea tiles, empty land tiles, and probably some tiles containing only forest or similiar. This could save lots of space, but not download time. It'd still be necessary to check if empty land suddenly isn't empty anymore. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: letter of recomendation
did anyone check that pdf with a scanner? GMail does that for me automatically, but it would be fairly pointless to send an infected PDF to a mailing list full of Linux folks. There's no way even to tell what app we'll be reading it with. That letter is one of the effects of the economic downturn. They pretend they have sent a letter to the wrong place, in the hope that someone will read it and give them a job. So please let's not make fun of it. That person deserves our respect and sympathetic silence. Regards, Juan Lucas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bicycling with OpenMoko
On Thursday 23 April 2009, Timo Scheffler wrote: After you have something like this [2] you simply glue it on the socket with much hot melt adhesive and there you go. :) No. 10 cable cleats are great for fixing things to handlebars too, and very cheap. http://uk.farnell.com/pro-power/np10/cable-cleat-pk25/dp/7257399 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.
It's not icon issue, it's theme issue. You have selected Illume theme instead of Illume SHR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : So 300MB of tiles with 30% updated it would generate (5+10*30)*300 kB = 89MB or so.. ok.. I wonder if it's ok for OSM people if people start doing it like this a lot more than they now do. This has already been discussed in OpenstreetMap Talk-fr. A guy from bearstech (Rodolphe Quideville) made a mirror for France and some cities, here : http://prosper.bearstech.com/~rodo/osm/tar/ I suggest you to ask him for adding the cities/countries you need (give him x_min x_max... as in info*.php). -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Yoann ARNAUD yarn...@crans.org wrote: Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : So 300MB of tiles with 30% updated it would generate (5+10*30)*300 kB = 89MB or so.. ok.. I wonder if it's ok for OSM people if people start doing it like this a lot more than they now do. This has already been discussed in OpenstreetMap Talk-fr. A guy from bearstech (Rodolphe Quideville) made a mirror for France and some cities, here : http://prosper.bearstech.com/~rodo/osm/tar/http://prosper.bearstech.com/%7Erodo/osm/tar/ I suggest you to ask him for adding the cities/countries you need (give him x_min x_max... as in info*.php). This is something OSM should get into. I would like to get all the kinds of things Cloudmade offer (navit? osm/xml?) for all of Australia but only for my city. Does OSM currently have a way of working out the boundary-box of a city? If not, I'd certainly help make boxes if there was a web interface for sending them in. Either way, someone (OSM? Openmoko community?) could automatically offer zip/tar/tbz files of all the tiles needed in the correct TangoGPS structure. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 15:47 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: It's not icon issue, it's theme issue. You have selected Illume theme instead of Illume SHR. Sorry, so how can i fix this theme issue. It should be easy, just reset some configurations or copy image files to proper folder. is that right? Please just let me know where or what I have to change. Thanks. http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#shr_desktop_issue -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.
Am Donnerstag 23 April 2009 16:05:43 schrieb Daniel.Li: On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 15:47 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: It's not icon issue, it's theme issue. You have selected Illume theme instead of Illume SHR. Sorry, so how can i fix this theme issue. It should be easy, just reset some configurations or copy image files to proper folder. is that right? Please just let me know where or what I have to change. Thanks. http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#shr_des ktop_issue you can change the theme with the illume settings (the wrench in the topbar) Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
sms message line feed issue
Dear community, I found that there is just one single line message. It seems it losts line feed character. Is there anything wrong with the message app? http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#sms_message_line_feed_issue -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr-sms-chinese-character-support
Actually restart X is enough On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 10:21 -0700, ykstortnilats wrote: Hi, You need a font that has Chinese characters. For instance I use fireflysung.ttf as my font. Google it and you'll find where to download it. Put the font file into /usr/share/fonts/truetype and you'll be able to choose it in illume-settings. And reboot :) http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#chinese_font_issue Thanks. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: sms message line feed issue
I think it's the word split problem. because there are spaces between English words. but it's not the case for Chinese. There should be a hard wrap for it. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Dear community, I found that there is just one single line message. It seems it losts line feed character. Is there anything wrong with the message app? http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#sms_message_line_feed_issue -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: letter of recomendation
So please let's not make fun of it. That person deserves our respect and sympathetic silence. i have a hard time to believe taht -- to me it looks like the very old scam, pretendeing to have sent the mail by mistake to the wrong address, making people curious and thus either plant a virus or try to sell the usual stuff from little helpers to big drugs ... that's how the other spmas work, too -- and it doesn't matter if it happens to land on a linux geek list or a list of grannies exchanging voodoo tipps, one in a billion will do what they hope for and that's enough of roi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann escribió: Am Donnerstag 23 April 2009 16:05:43 schrieb Daniel.Li: On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 15:47 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: It's not icon issue, it's theme issue. You have selected Illume theme instead of Illume SHR. Sorry, so how can i fix this theme issue. It should be easy, just reset some configurations or copy image files to proper folder. is that right? Please just let me know where or what I have to change. Thanks. http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#shr_des ktop_issue you can change the theme with the illume settings (the wrench in the topbar) Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann Well, latest SHR testing does not have Illume SHR listed as a theme anymore (20090422-om-gta02) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.
So then that's the correct bug report :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: sms message line feed issue
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 22:31 +0800, HouYu Li wrote: I think it's the word split problem. because there are spaces between English words. but it's not the case for Chinese. There should be a hard wrap for it. English message is OK. So I believe that it's a sw bug. Maybe someone can help to fix the issue. :) On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Dear community, I found that there is just one single line message. It seems it losts line feed character. Is there anything wrong with the message app? http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#sms_message_line_feed_issue -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 10:40 -0400, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Well, latest SHR testing does not have Illume SHR listed as a theme anymore (20090422-om-gta02) Humm.. I don't wanna flash the new image, cause I have added many packages. So I hope there is a simple solution, change configurations or copy image files. And it'll also let me know more about desktop configurations. Thanks . -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Looking for a app similar to the Dog Whistle for the iPhone
I am looking for a app like the Dog Whistle for the iPhone that allows you to set a pitch and it plays a note at the pitch, I looked in opkg.org and in the application page in the wiki and didn't see one like that and was wondering if there is one or if it would be a great suggestion for a app for a developer to make? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a app similar to the Dog Whistle for the iPhone
2009/4/23 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: I am looking for a app like the Dog Whistle for the iPhone that allows you to set a pitch and it plays a note at the pitch, I looked in opkg.org and in the application page in the wiki and didn't see one like that and was wondering if there is one or if it would be a great suggestion for a app for a developer to make? If playing notes fits your needs try http://tg.gstaedtner.net/projects/euphony.html Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Hi, no it is VB on Windows Mobile, AFAIK Onen kimaidou wrote: Humm. Is there a OSMTracker version for the openmoko ? If so, could you please give a link ? Thanks in advance 2009/4/23 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de mailto:matthiasfels...@web.de What about an integration into, let' say tangoGPS, which is written in gtk too? Another tab for recording voice-notes which are automatically linked into the tangoGPS track would be a pleasant solution to me. you could convert its track into gpx and upload it the way you like. But if OSMTracker does this job already and a daemon would be more suitable, maybe it's not worth the work. Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com mailto:kimai...@gmail.com writes: * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ? Have you any clue how to do it ? Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS data. If you to ask the GPS for the current location you get lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not connected to the phone at all. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
It'd also be nice to have an option for automatically zooming out. That is, if I have a bunch of tiles at zoom 15 (downloaded using tangogps perhaps) then I want the zoom 14 tiles covering the same area, as well as the zoom 13 tiles, and so on all the way up to the top. Of course, the number of tiles quickly gets lower as one goes up, and usually hits a tile that is there already after a few levels. Yes, that would be welcome. Actually, more to the point TangoGPS's download the view + 4 levels down should also download the all levels above (after all, downloading levels N and above only take 33% more timespace than downloading level N). If people start doing this a lot, then transparent proxies at the various ISPs will take much of the load. :-) I haven't heard of any ISP using transparent proxies around here. Another thing that'd be nice to have, is duplicate tile detection. There are a lot of sea tiles, empty land tiles, and probably some tiles containing only forest or similiar. This could save lots of space, Yes, on an ext3 filesystem, it would save 4kB per duplicate file. Personally, I'd also want to see Yaouh (or the corresponding functionality) integrated into TangoGPS (probably by first making clear that the download operation only fills holes in the cache and doesn't refetch things that are already cached, and then by providing a new command refresh all the tiles in the current area (above and below)). Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a app similar to the Dog Whistle for the iPhone
I mean like playing a tone, the same tone, but at different pitch like 67Hz as an example On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/23 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: I am looking for a app like the Dog Whistle for the iPhone that allows you to set a pitch and it plays a note at the pitch, I looked in opkg.organd in the application page in the wiki and didn't see one like that and was wondering if there is one or if it would be a great suggestion for a app for a developer to make? If playing notes fits your needs try http://tg.gstaedtner.net/projects/euphony.html Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would * answer automatically each incomming phonecall, * play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it * record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names for the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav) I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great ! Seems like what you want is to route the GSM to Asterisk. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a app similar to the Dog Whistle for the iPhone
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 11:08 -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote: I am looking for a app like the Dog Whistle for the iPhone that allows you to set a pitch and it plays a note at the pitch, I looked in opkg.org and in the application page in the wiki and didn't see one like that and was wondering if there is one or if it would be a great suggestion for a app for a developer to make? If you are using debian or a derivative I'm sure there is something, how well the gui will work on the phone is anyone's guess. You could always use audacity, but that's overkill. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
Hi, adding to my last comments... Onen wrote: Ok. If I understand you correctly, you would like some kind of anonymous account, where people could upload if they don't want to create an account? Did I understand you correctly? Well I have nothing against it, it is a good idea to me. But is it good enough regarding legal aspect? Creative commons license makes you have to put the name of contributors (and possibly link them to the data they provided, not sure about this). Is an anonymous account compatible with this? I guess, if people would upload using a same account, this would be one contributor name, and would legally be ok, isn't it? Another point against an open account: imagine somebody starts uploading garbage. Once we notice it. It could be difficult to know what to delete, if a lot of people are using this account. I am not very sure we could reliably rely on IP address to find out what should be deleted. Onen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a app similar to the Dog Whistle for the iPhone
I am using SHR so I don't know if there is anything like that for my phone. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Ali alish...@interchange.ubc.ca wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 11:08 -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote: I am looking for a app like the Dog Whistle for the iPhone that allows you to set a pitch and it plays a note at the pitch, I looked in opkg.org and in the application page in the wiki and didn't see one like that and was wondering if there is one or if it would be a great suggestion for a app for a developer to make? If you are using debian or a derivative I'm sure there is something, how well the gui will work on the phone is anyone's guess. You could always use audacity, but that's overkill. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a app similar to the Dog Whistle for the iPhone
Adam Jimerson wrote: I mean like playing a tone, the same tone, but at different pitch like 67Hz as an example It can be done from the command-line with gstreamer: gst-launch audiotestsrc freq=67 volume=0.8 ! alsasink (It's very quiet!) You may have to install a few extra packages via opkg eg: opkg install gst-plugin-audiotestsrc on shr-testing or using the direct address: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/gst-plugin-audiotestsrc_0.10.17-r5_armv4t.ipk Use: gst-inspect audiotestsrc fo more info. Stuart ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 16th community update released
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 10:21 +0200, Marc Verwerft wrote: Yep , me 2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Piotr Duda openm...@nemezis.eu wrote: [...] We will try to find out what people want. Anybody still downloading the GTA01 images? yes, me. and there are others. do not forget about us. regards and best wishes. Now that I have a fully functional gta01 and battery I will be able to start testing those images. I want to release gta01 iimage with the next testing release. It may not be the same day as the gta02 image gets releases but should be shortly after. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:45:28 +0200, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently How recent would that be? I run yaouh to get the latest tiles where I have updated the map. Of course, this is often the same tiles as I refreshed a couple of days earlier. So I think this has to be optional. Some kind of uses need to check fairly new tiles. I use the program in exactly the same way. Skipping files is not for sake of less transfer, but for less time spent on contacting remote servers (that's the same reason why I believe deleting files long unused is necessary). As of now, skipping files one day old is completely sufficient for me. Unless you do many updates every day and the tile server gets updated quicker than in my area. The value should be adjustable (including 0) in my opinion. * forcing download empty tiles What does that mean? The current version treats the empty files (size 0) left by tangoGPS as ones needed to download by force, that is, not checking for the server modification date. For example download every tile that has 2 (or 3 or four) neighbors downloaded to 'fill the gaps' in the map. That's an interesting idea... unfortunately, the program would need to be rewritten because it uses recursive traversal of dictionaries now (and I think Yaouh! does so, too). Ah, excellent! It'd also be nice to have an option for automatically zooming out. That is, if I have a bunch of tiles at zoom 15 (downloaded using tangogps perhaps) then I want the zoom 14 tiles covering the same area, as well as the zoom 13 tiles, and so on all the way up to the top. Of course, the number of tiles quickly gets lower as one goes up, and usually hits a tile that is there already after a few levels. I think this will be the next thing I implement when I get some free time. Another thing that'd be nice to have, is duplicate tile detection. There are a lot of sea tiles, empty land tiles, and probably some tiles containing only forest or similiar. This could save lots of space, but not download time. It'd still be necessary to check if empty land suddenly isn't empty anymore. Is it really that good? Thousands of tiles wold be necessary to make any real difference, even if the internal storage of a Freerunner is used. A few megabytes saved when a few hundred is laying there isn't worth the trouble. Imagine storing modify dates for each sea tile independently when they are all symlinked to the same file (if you want to use the skipping functionality mentioned above to save time). -- Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?
Roland wrote: Hello all, I want to get a little more involved in development for Qtei. Especially after Franky's cry for help. Franky: I have to agree with Leonardo - great work! To you and everybody else working on Qtei - I'm really impressed with the improvements in the last months. So why am I writing this mail... I have downloaded the sources of Qtextended and also built it a couple of times. I also did a checkout of the new git repository and that worked for me as well. But any changes I made I had to type into a plain text editor and that is kind of annoying. Is there any IDE one can use for the development? Coming from software development with Qt Desktop I think I would be able to contribute, but working with a normal editor is not really fun. This article came as a surprise to me, maybe to you too: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtCreator_C%2B%2B/Qt -- husku ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtCreator_C%2B%2B/Qt well, you probaly can do with eclipse and trolltech's qt plugin as well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Yes, why not. As a user, it is not important for me if this is diktaphone or asterisk which does it. I do not know many things about sounds, routing, etc., so I cannot argue :D If asterisk can do it , let's use asterisk ! But we (dumm users) will need end-user simple tuto to achieve some things :D Anyway, I think it would be a great feature 2009/4/23 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would * answer automatically each incomming phonecall, * play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it * record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names for the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav) I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great ! Seems like what you want is to route the GSM to Asterisk. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?
Hello husku, This article came as a surprise to me, maybe to you too: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtCreator_C%2B%2B/Qt You are right, I didn't know that article. So the topic IDE for app development seems to be covered. Does anyone have an idea for developing apps using the Qtextended specific classes or Qtextended itself? Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a app similar to the Dog Whistle for the iPhone
Thanks that is what I was looking for, to bad there isn't a UI or anything for it. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Stuart Pullinger s.pullin...@elec.gla.ac.uk wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: I mean like playing a tone, the same tone, but at different pitch like 67Hz as an example It can be done from the command-line with gstreamer: gst-launch audiotestsrc freq=67 volume=0.8 ! alsasink (It's very quiet!) You may have to install a few extra packages via opkg eg: opkg install gst-plugin-audiotestsrc on shr-testing or using the direct address: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/gst-plugin-audiotestsrc_0.10.17-r5_armv4t.ipk Use: gst-inspect audiotestsrc fo more info. Stuart ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Radek Polak wrote: Roland wrote: how do you run (and debug) the Qte applications on your PC? I know that Qte can be build for qtfb (or something like that) but I had some compile errors and didn't try again. Do you use this? I write the application just as normal QT application. Running and debugging on regular QT/X11. When i am done with coding and debugging i just port the application to QTE. How do you import the project into Qt Creator? Is there a project file in the git repository or does Qt Creator work just with the Makefile? I start the app as normal QT application. Then i port it to QTE. This is possible because Qtopia contains all the classes as big QT has. It's my first application and first program that i wrote in C++ so there might appear problems with this approach, but right now it works just fine. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Moro, Would you mind elaborating the steps of porting since your way of development sounds good, it removes much of the hassle as its not needed to cross-compile every so often. Do you mean by porting that you need to make changes to your code, or to just compile it differently? - -- husku -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknwml0ACgkQYntoxOJkGJIUlwCZAQq5QQEi0616KrvGs7yHOZF2 NU8An2SWvrty6zUjvo83LPXVn3sKoa1J =YRFg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Git online
Is this meaning that you are dropping http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git ? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: Hi all, I forked the tree of and I've put all my changes online so far: http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/tree/master My current image is based on this code (except the screenshot app isn't in my binary release yet, I'm going to take this in as well next time I build it). I've also made another change that fixes the problem where you can't click on a OK or Cancel button in some dialog boxes. But I haven't put it online yet (not a really big thing). Now on to the next problem: it seems people don't get the gsm to register anymore after switching from Airplane mode. Needs testing and investigating, I will take this on. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Git online
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:47:59 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: Is this meaning that you are dropping http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git ? no, it does not. I've based my git on that of Radek, and Radek gets his from Filip and Karadog. It's all connected :-) Consider mine as alpha, Radeks as beta and Karadog as production :-) Not exactly true, but it helps. Once Karadog switches to 2.6.28 his and Radeks git will probably merge completely. And if Radek pulls in all my changes, then mine is obsolete as well. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Personally, I'd also want to see Yaouh (or the corresponding functionality) integrated into TangoGPS (probably by first making clear that the download operation only fills holes in the cache and doesn't refetch things that are already cached, and then by providing a new command refresh all the tiles in the current area (above and below)). Personally I'd like to be able to dump tangogps (or similar that uses png tiles) and use something that's able to render the map from vector data. ~ something that Navit does but with some functionality that tangogps has and navit doesn't (easy gui to save track, trip information etc etc). This way a LOT of space bandwith would be saved if bitmaps wouldn't have to be loaded but a vector map. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
I second that motion. :P I downloaded the planet.bin vector map just so I would have it when I got a hold of a app to use it, but I can't figure out Navit and I like TangoGPS's UI anyways. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 8
I take a look at the openmoko_install.sh script it download the file qte_20090416.tgz instead of the file qte_20090421.tgz 2009/4/22 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:51:28 +0200 giacomo \giotti\ mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote: Yours work is great, keep it up! I'm sad: don't being a programmer I can't help you very much; I can only test your fantastic job. I have only a suggestion: like SHR is it possible to use opkg to keep our QTeI updated? Hi, opkg can be used to update the base system, but not QtEI itself. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Git online
I see :) It would be really cool if there would be only one repository with different branches :) (and maybe a little bit more clear for the n00bs like me ;)) On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:47:59 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: Is this meaning that you are dropping http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git ? no, it does not. I've based my git on that of Radek, and Radek gets his from Filip and Karadog. It's all connected :-) Consider mine as alpha, Radeks as beta and Karadog as production :-) Not exactly true, but it helps. Once Karadog switches to 2.6.28 his and Radeks git will probably merge completely. And if Radek pulls in all my changes, then mine is obsolete as well. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 8
you suggest this kernel: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090404/ wouldn't be better: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090423/ ? which of these files have to be downloaded? u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitrb20cc520a22715fe7ff069b36b7dfdbb925a8e5a-r1.bin ? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:16:18 +0200 Sound Freedom sound.of.free...@gmail.com wrote: I take a look at the openmoko_install.sh script it download the file qte_20090416.tgz instead of the file qte_20090421.tgz oops ... sorry, corrected and upgraded to qte_20090422.tgz (where more dialogs are correctly taken input on their buttons now) Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 8
sorry for double post: uImage-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr20+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r4-om-gta02.bin this one is the kernel, isn't it? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: you suggest this kernel: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090404/ wouldn't be better: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090423/ ? which of these files have to be downloaded? u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitrb20cc520a22715fe7ff069b36b7dfdbb925a8e5a-r1.bin ? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:16:18 +0200 Sound Freedom sound.of.free...@gmail.com wrote: I take a look at the openmoko_install.sh script it download the file qte_20090416.tgz instead of the file qte_20090421.tgz oops ... sorry, corrected and upgraded to qte_20090422.tgz (where more dialogs are correctly taken input on their buttons now) Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: letter of recomendation
Seems like a nice recommendation letter, just a couple of observations: 1) Letter of recommendation is an official document and thus contracted forms are not advisable. what's = what is 2) Isn't two-week trip supposed to be without the dash? 3) Sincerely and your contacts should be aligned to left as all the rest of the text. Other then that it looks fine. I might be mistaken about the second point, English is not my first language. Best of luck to you for your next writing task and I can assure you that we all hope that Jodie will get the job! I hope we can read your next piece of writing soon. Thanks and regards, Yogiz On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:42:39 -0800 Ben Hussey brettja...@frumppyoldwoman.com wrote: Jodie, Here is the letter; let me know if you need any changes. I'll print a copy out to sign and have you send out, see you at home! -Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Backup SMS and Contacts
Contacts: /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite SMSs: /home/root/Applications/qtopiamail/qtopia_db.sqlite btw: on the last daily, the limit is still 140 or so SMSs or you can store as many as you want? On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: the SMS are in the sqllite database too? On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: How can I backup my SMS and my Contact list? is possible to export them in a CSV file, or in some other kind of portable file? (sql or something similar) Thank you -- Fabio A Locati according to me they are already in a sqllite database (location in /home/root I believe) But for contacts: you can go to your contacts and select send all as VCF or something alike, I did this via mail, so the app created a VCF file and sended it via mail to me (don't forget to first configure your mail and send a testmail). Send via bluetooth should work as well (remember the restrictions: only on first boot bluetooth works ok in a 2.6.28 kernel, not after suspend). For the SMS's, I don't know if an export is available, haven't looked at it yet. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?
Mikko Husari wrote: Would you mind elaborating the steps of porting since your way of development sounds good, it removes much of the hassle as its not needed to cross-compile every so often. Do you mean by porting that you need to make changes to your code, or to just compile it differently? Hi Mikko, i have already something descibed it in previous mail. But in more details it's like that: Let's say you have working project for X11/QT in QTCreator. If you want to port it to Qtopia, just copy it somewhere and do: $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild -project for this you will need to have working build of Qtopia as is described here [1] This will create qbuild.pro for you. Now just type $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild and you have binary that is ready to run on Neo. I am also using #ifdef QT_QWS_FICGTA01 some Neo specific stuff #endif It should be quite easy. Good luck Radek [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qt_Extended_Improved ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 8
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:52:59 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for double post: uImage-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr20+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r4-om-gta02.bin this one is the kernel, isn't it? yes, that i the accompanying kernel, but I don't know if ssh works already when you install these (I use Qi, not uBoot). So, if you install them and use Qi, let me know the result. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Backup SMS and Contacts
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:06:21 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: Contacts: /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite SMSs: /home/root/Applications/qtopiamail/qtopia_db.sqlite In my case, the sms's are also as plain text available in /home/root/Applications/qtopiamail btw: on the last daily, the limit is still 140 or so SMSs or you can store as many as you want? limit of 140 or so??? I never heard/read of this limit before ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Git online
Fabio Locati wrote: I see :) It would be really cool if there would be only one repository with different branches :) (and maybe a little bit more clear for the n00bs like me ;)) No it wouldnt be very good. That's the reason why Linux kernel uses GIT and not SVN. Just check this page: http://git.kernel.org/ these are all branches for one single project - linux kernel. It's how GIT works. If there was one central repository then we would need to agree witch patches can go in and people would break others work. Now i just see that person XXX fixed problem YYY and i will merge this to my tree. And if i trust that person i will merge his whole tree. And with github it's really easy to check what everybody did. Check e.g. http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/network You can see how people are branching your tree and that they do changes. And you can pull their changes back to your tree. So this is coordinated effort and it's very different from times when branching meant forking the project (mainly because of disputes between developers). Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 8
with Qi the kernel of the 23rd April fails to run SSH. I'm going to install the 4th April one ;) On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:52:59 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for double post: uImage-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr20+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r4-om-gta02.bin this one is the kernel, isn't it? yes, that i the accompanying kernel, but I don't know if ssh works already when you install these (I use Qi, not uBoot). So, if you install them and use Qi, let me know the result. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Git online
I see the point ;). On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Fabio Locati wrote: I see :) It would be really cool if there would be only one repository with different branches :) (and maybe a little bit more clear for the n00bs like me ;)) No it wouldnt be very good. That's the reason why Linux kernel uses GIT and not SVN. Just check this page: http://git.kernel.org/ these are all branches for one single project - linux kernel. It's how GIT works. If there was one central repository then we would need to agree witch patches can go in and people would break others work. Now i just see that person XXX fixed problem YYY and i will merge this to my tree. And if i trust that person i will merge his whole tree. And with github it's really easy to check what everybody did. Check e.g. http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/network You can see how people are branching your tree and that they do changes. And you can pull their changes back to your tree. So this is coordinated effort and it's very different from times when branching meant forking the project (mainly because of disputes between developers). Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Radek Polak wrote: Hi Mikko, i have already something descibed it in previous mail. But in more details it's like that: Holy Crap Batman! I saw your first description but I did not realize it was all what was needed :) - -- husku -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknwuQUACgkQYntoxOJkGJL36wCgqPpllfrgMuQvQi/RKlpMW+GA DDEAoLBOHsC5vnyc1aW+FCNNZvWfoIKR =jlo5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] problems with debian and u-boot
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:05:55AM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/4/14 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk: Make sure the kernel is on a partition completely below 4 GB or use a U-Boot built with this patch: https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-March/009573.html agh, that's why. it was on an 8gb partition. i must have missed that in the debian documentation/om wiki I'm not sure it was a known limitation. A newer U-Boot with the 4 GB patch is now available in the unstable directory: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitrb20cc520a22715fe7ff069b36b7dfdbb925a8e5a-r1.bin FWIW, even with the above patch, I'm having no success getting U-Boot to read a kernel from a 1 GB partition starting at 6 GB. I'm trying to debug it, though. using qi now, but not tried to boot debian yet. cheers rask The second problem was that U-Boot can't read ext2 filesystems revision 1 where inodes might not be 128 bytes. In my case they are 256 bytes, so the inode position is miscalculated. Patch posted: https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-April/010051.html -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
BT Hands Free Kit
Hello there, I am reading many things about BT-headsets and everything. Is there any possibility to use the Freerunner together with the Hand Free Kit in the car? I tried in my car, but the car does not find the Freerunner (OM2008.12 kustomized). Has anybody an idea? I found this http://nohands.sourceforge.net/source.html as a bluetooth project. Anything would help: best would be something like: ... use XYZ.opk and it will work! in worst case a bluetooth protocol description for hands free kits would also help. any idea would be appreciated. be safe, Joerg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bicycling with OpenMoko
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 02:46:35PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 23 April 2009, Timo Scheffler wrote: After you have something like this [2] you simply glue it on the socket with much hot melt adhesive and there you go. :) No. 10 cable cleats are great for fixing things to handlebars too, and very cheap. http://uk.farnell.com/pro-power/np10/cable-cleat-pk25/dp/7257399 I was thinking about some kind of a holder for more than half a year, then I found an old bicycle light with removable bottom and a plastic cover for the 5 1/4 holes on a computer case... took a few cable ties and I could finally attach the neo to my bike.. http://people.ksp.sk/~yoyo/foto/?dir=pict%2F2009%2F04+Drziak+na+openmoko I was afraid it would not really hold together... but it survived over 250km this weekend quite well.. yoyo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 8
Franky, I think that your script should me more verbose... It seems stuck but, probably, is working. What's about an output line before executing each command? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: with Qi the kernel of the 23rd April fails to run SSH. I'm going to install the 4th April one ;) On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:52:59 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for double post: uImage-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr20+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r4-om-gta02.bin this one is the kernel, isn't it? yes, that i the accompanying kernel, but I don't know if ssh works already when you install these (I use Qi, not uBoot). So, if you install them and use Qi, let me know the result. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: letter of recomendation
Hmm.. suppose this was not planned to be posted to community mailing list..? I think it was meant for this other list http://lists.frumppyoldwoman.com/listinfo.cgi/family-frumppyoldwoman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[neovento] bug in gprs-ui
the gprs-ui APN field was to few spaces to input the t-mobile and other APN (internet2.voicestream.com) with more the 21 spaces don't work other then that it's a good distro. I hope it gets fixed by the next update. Keep up the good work Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 8
If you don't see it doing much, then it probably *is* stuck :-) I'm guessing it's stuck trying to get the ipkg updates, no? Did your phone had internet connectivity configured correctly before trying to execute the script (eg. try to do a nslookup of a domain on the phone)? Franky On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:49:59 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: Franky, I think that your script should me more verbose... It seems stuck but, probably, is working. What's about an output line before executing each command? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: with Qi the kernel of the 23rd April fails to run SSH. I'm going to install the 4th April one ;) On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:52:59 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for double post: uImage-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr20+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r4-om-gta02.bin this one is the kernel, isn't it? yes, that i the accompanying kernel, but I don't know if ssh works already when you install these (I use Qi, not uBoot). So, if you install them and use Qi, let me know the result. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended Improved] GPS Mapping Demo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: But personally I haven't had any luck as well trying to get this to work. Other people besides me are trying to build a better gps application. Moro, I stumbled on a new (at least for me) gps app for qte while on a quest for some examples, I havent yet tested it but just thought you might like to know... http://github.com/Blackhex/qtopiagps/ - -- husku -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknw0LQACgkQYntoxOJkGJKUoQCePbM1zqE8mLcu/Z60IIXkLUbC GWIAnRzrw+LTCyWYrPpSz4lQLeCqW3S5 =rgfb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 8
I was NATted and I haven't set iptables. Thanks to Radekp I have setted it and now is way more verbose :) thank you On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: If you don't see it doing much, then it probably *is* stuck :-) I'm guessing it's stuck trying to get the ipkg updates, no? Did your phone had internet connectivity configured correctly before trying to execute the script (eg. try to do a nslookup of a domain on the phone)? Franky On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:49:59 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: Franky, I think that your script should me more verbose... It seems stuck but, probably, is working. What's about an output line before executing each command? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: with Qi the kernel of the 23rd April fails to run SSH. I'm going to install the 4th April one ;) On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:52:59 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for double post: uImage-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr20+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r4-om-gta02.bin this one is the kernel, isn't it? yes, that i the accompanying kernel, but I don't know if ssh works already when you install these (I use Qi, not uBoot). So, if you install them and use Qi, let me know the result. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended Improved] GPS Mapping Demo
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:33:56 +0300 Mikko Husari hu...@husku.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: But personally I haven't had any luck as well trying to get this to work. Other people besides me are trying to build a better gps application. Moro, I stumbled on a new (at least for me) gps app for qte while on a quest for some examples, I havent yet tested it but just thought you might like to know... http://github.com/Blackhex/qtopiagps/ - -- husku yeah, I found that one as well, but it doesn't *do* much, now does it ... showing gps numbers is nice, but I need a map :-) Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko newbie questions
I have a few questions on OpenMoko phones. I am planning to buy one. 1. Which is the default OS that comes in OpenMoko: OM 2007 ? 2. Do you use the default OS or have you flashed soe other OS of your own? 3. Which OS is known for booting faster than others. I use Debian on my laptop and I would want to know how good Debian is for Freerunner? Does it boot fast enough? 4. Is multi-touch in neo freerunner not availabe because the hardware doesn't support it or is it because the software doesn't support it? 5. In the OpenMoko Neo Freerunner order page I have two options relevant to me. Purchase Options * GSM 900 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD * GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD Now, I don't know which one I should be going for. I am from India and we use GSM sim cards here. I use Vodafone SIM card. So which is the one I should be buying? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr] sms-sentry not working
Hello,
anybody made sms-sentry working in current shr-testing? i wanted to
give it a try (since it is included in shr-testing
(shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 Apr 19 09:47) but no luck.
Could this be caused by different framework version then sms-sentry was
originally written for? Log attached.
Petr
2009-04-23 22:13:25,236 DEBUG init
2009-04-23 22:13:35,743 ERROR DBus exception
2009-04-23 22:13:55,818 ERROR DBus exception
2009-04-23 22:14:05,860 ERROR DBus exception
2009-04-23 22:14:15,892 DEBUG register
2009-04-23 22:14:16,523 DEBUG registration failed - waiting 30 seconds
2009-04-23 22:19:44,538 ERROR Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 214, in maybe_handle_message
self._handler(*args, **kwargs)
File /usr/bin/sms-sentry, line 88, in on_incoming_stored_message
self.on_incoming_message( sender, contents, properties )
File /usr/bin/sms-sentry, line 100, in on_incoming_message
self.sms_iface.SendMessage( sender, location, { 'type':'SMS_DELIVER', 'alphabet':'gsm' } )
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__
**keywords)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in call_blocking
message, timeout)
DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.KeyError: Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py, line 702, in _message_cb
retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
File string, line 1, in lambda
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/resource.py, line 41, in checkedmethod
return f(*args, **kw)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/device.py, line 389, in SendMessage
mediator.SmsSendMessage( self, dbus_ok, dbus_error, number=number, contents=contents, properties=properties )
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py, line 228, in __init__
AbstractYieldSupport.__init__( self, *args, **kwargs )
Re: [QT Extended Improved] GPS Mapping Demo
what about working to allow framebuffer on SDL? maybe is only a compiling bug. If SDL could use framebuffer, we could use Navit... that is surely a very good navigation system :) On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:33:56 +0300 Mikko Husari hu...@husku.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: But personally I haven't had any luck as well trying to get this to work. Other people besides me are trying to build a better gps application. Moro, I stumbled on a new (at least for me) gps app for qte while on a quest for some examples, I havent yet tested it but just thought you might like to know... http://github.com/Blackhex/qtopiagps/ - -- husku yeah, I found that one as well, but it doesn't *do* much, now does it ... showing gps numbers is nice, but I need a map :-) Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Backup SMS and Contacts
I have experienced this limit, and there were someone else that wrote about it... but I can not remember who and where he was. I'm going to search it ;) On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:06:21 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: Contacts: /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite SMSs: /home/root/Applications/qtopiamail/qtopia_db.sqlite In my case, the sms's are also as plain text available in /home/root/Applications/qtopiamail btw: on the last daily, the limit is still 140 or so SMSs or you can store as many as you want? limit of 140 or so??? I never heard/read of this limit before ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] sms-sentry not working
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 23:06 +0200, Petr Vanek wrote: Hello, anybody made sms-sentry working in current shr-testing? i wanted to give it a try (since it is included in shr-testing (shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 Apr 19 09:47) but no luck. Could this be caused by different framework version then sms-sentry was originally written for? Log attached. That would be my guess. I'll have a look at it later. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko newbie questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Foss User wrote: I have a few questions on OpenMoko phones. I am planning to buy one. 1. Which is the default OS that comes in OpenMoko: OM 2007 ? When I got mine (last december), it had 2007.x and it stayed there for a few hours, then it got replaced, many times :) 2. Do you use the default OS or have you flashed soe other OS of your own? No, and you should also try as many as possible. 3. Which OS is known for booting faster than others. I use Debian on my laptop and I would want to know how good Debian is for Freerunner? Does it boot fast enough? No experience with debian on freerunner, it should be just as fast as others. It all depends on what software you decide to use as a user interface. In my opinion, Qt Extended Improved feels the fastest but i was quite pleased with the recent shr-unstables too. Most phonelike would be the Qt Extended Improved. 4. Is multi-touch in neo freerunner not availabe because the hardware doesn't support it or is it because the software doesn't support it? This is a hw-issue but there are a few propeller heads which try to circumvent that by sw. 5. In the OpenMoko Neo Freerunner order page I have two options relevant to me. Purchase Options * GSM 900 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD * GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD Now, I don't know which one I should be going for. I am from India and we use GSM sim cards here. I use Vodafone SIM card. So which is the one I should be buying? India uses the GSM 900/1800 frequency. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080116131550AASW7Yn http://www.simoncells.com/scripts/gsmzone.asp - -- husku -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknw45QACgkQYntoxOJkGwCePCvupLmuJsOxAbX4Bcyaa0m1 uxcAniD87YN4dSL9KCVbRleRfEvP5zcR =l+AU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian
2009/4/21 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com: 2009/4/19 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com: [...] I'll update about my progress on AMI interface soon. It's great night for me! I was able to do my first VoIP-PSTN call with FR, it was to my girlfriend of course, It may be for love or It may be to not bother some other guy with an unpredictible test :) I used for that my all damned pre-pre-pre-alpha tools I'm writing (and hope to finish). The test case is interesting, please be quite with comments, I'm crazy, not mad :) I'm from Paduli a small village where I spend my weekends, there I have ADSL with a voip option to call flat Italy landlines, during the week I'm far in Naples for my job, there I have only an umts card. To use voip I have to be connected phisically to the ADSL router, no use is permitted from public internet, and my provider uses a modifyed sip protocol. And now the test scenario. In Paduli: *) atheros openwrt/kamikaze powered embedded device up 24h *) it's connected to a stupid adsl router I cannot change/reflash as Telecom Italia uses the non standard sip protocol with a secret virtual channel for voip. *) openvpn server with tap layer 2 to make external connections appear as in LAN :) In Naples: *) laptop connected to internet with E220 HSDPA *) freerunner connected to laptop acting as router with BT/Bnep (testing my bt manager) *) freerunner connected to Paduli LAN with openvpn client *) runned alice-ctl, a tool to fake a Telecom cordless able to connect to the voip service, based on pivelli python code (I rewrote it in C before as python did not fit in my embedded atheros device!) *) alice-ctl enabled a peer on my vpn IP (acting as the fake cordless) *) asterisk acted as the cordless, built with two patch, the first to speak the tampered SIP protocol (thanks again to pivelli project), the second to solve the announced alsa problems *) launched my very very rude voip dialer that interacts with asterisk trough the AMI interface and finally placed the Call! And now the results: The call was picked up from my girlfriend father, the result was: Hello... Emh are you there... Yes umh. do you hear me?... Yes but it's strange - Papi give me the phone!, it was Nicola with freerunner for sure :))) (I'm just thinking how many om guys got the same in the last two years! :) A big delay, but superb audio quality, we stayed up for about 15 mins. I think that it's only a problem due of my absourd networking and asound.conf tuning as the period/buffer size is huge for a good latency... But I'm happy, asterisk runs fine in a real case. There is a lot to do, please join and contribute, I will happy tho share everything! Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
