Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Al Johnson schrieb: On Thursday 23 April 2009, Stefan Monnier wrote: Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would * answer automatically each incomming phonecall, * play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it * record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names for the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav) I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great ! Seems like what you want is to route the GSM to Asterisk. That seems like overkill, unless you're going to be running asterisk anyway. If not it could be a small addition to the dialer program, or a separate app that should be easy to do with fso. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes it is, we just have to add this functionality to the dialer-app or create another one. (just playing sound using a state routing it to Mono1 - not playing it back. and then recording after playing a short signal.) it's not hard to do, even in python. I think it just hasn't been implemented because each provider provides some kind of mailbox. But it would be nice because checking the mailbox is not always free! Matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
I'm not sure who or how to report this but since I have gone through the test and it has taken some time to resolve. Flashing the latest SHR image and kernel from http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ 23 April uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119800+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r3.4-om-gta02.bin I could not connect via SSH over USB from my Ubuntu 8.10 host. lsusb on the host could see the neo but could not ifup usb0 Only after reflashing just the kernel back to Apr 9, could I again reconnect via SSH. I have not tried kernels posted between those dates to work out where the problem starts. Howver to confirm it, I have reflashed back to the latest 23rd April but could not connect, then reflashed back to 9th April and worked again. Both report 2.6.29-rc3 via 'uname -r' cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:38:59 +1000 Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure who or how to report this but since I have gone through the test and it has taken some time to resolve. Flashing the latest SHR image and kernel from http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ 23 April uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119800+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r3.4-om-gta02.bin I could not connect via SSH over USB from my Ubuntu 8.10 host. lsusb on the host could see the neo but could not ifup usb0 Only after reflashing just the kernel back to Apr 9, could I again reconnect via SSH. I have not tried kernels posted between those dates to work out where the problem starts. Howver to confirm it, I have reflashed back to the latest 23rd April but could not connect, then reflashed back to 9th April and worked again. Both report 2.6.29-rc3 via 'uname -r' cheers Denis have you tried ifup ethx (with x the number of the new interface)? I've been told it is eth on the host now, but it doesn't work for me either ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended Improved] GPS Mapping Demo
SDL isn't compiled (at least not in my image) ... Feel free to try though :-) On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:07:00 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: what about working to allow framebuffer on SDL? maybe is only a compiling bug. If SDL could use framebuffer, we could use Navit... that is surely a very good navigation system :) On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:33:56 +0300 Mikko Husari hu...@husku.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: But personally I haven't had any luck as well trying to get this to work. Other people besides me are trying to build a better gps application. Moro, I stumbled on a new (at least for me) gps app for qte while on a quest for some examples, I havent yet tested it but just thought you might like to know... http://github.com/Blackhex/qtopiagps/ - -- husku yeah, I found that one as well, but it doesn't *do* much, now does it ... showing gps numbers is nice, but I need a map :-) Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....
Hallo wim.delvaux, * wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com [24-04-09 04:16]: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have never tried it, but i have heared it supports SDHC cards, but can't boot it? (Booting with Uboot???/Qi???; i don't know) But i'm really unsure! A better qualified answear would be welcome! :D Regrads Tim Niemeyer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] QtMoko = QtExtended on debian project
Can you provide instructions to add the QtExtended application to an existing Debian installation? Thanks! HouYu Li wrote: Congratulations... On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i have put a small homepage where you can download my QtExtended debian based images and view my GIT tree. I call this project QtMoko - as it should be cute and usable phone for Freerunner. The project page is at: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/qtmoko/ I hope you'll find it useful. I will continue to improve the images and homepage and the project will always be 100% free and coordinated with other QTE images out there. Cheers Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QtExtended--QtMoko-%3D-QtExtended-on-debian-project-tp2619949p2690150.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Yes it is, we just have to add this functionality to the dialer-app or create another one. (just playing sound using a state routing it to Mono1 - not playing it back. and then recording after playing a short signal.) it's not hard to do, even in python. I think it just hasn't been implemented because each provider provides some kind of mailbox. But it would be nice because checking the mailbox is not always free! Not always free (e.g. when you are abroad), and it is limited : * you cannot keep a message as long as you want, * you cannot copy the message to you PC, * you cannot use a I am not here message different for each caller (e.g : a message for my mum, another for my boss, etc.) * you cannot forward a voice message to another person *etc. Kimaidou Matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: letter of recomendation
Adam Jimerson a écrit : On Thursday 23 April 2009 06:46:05 pm Dale Maggee wrote: Did you stop to think that maybe this was a coded message for terrorists? Just sayin. No according to this http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html they use Quake for that XD *PLEASE* Tell me that article is a joke... Please? It's absolutely hilarious... *IF* it's a joke... if it's not a joke, it's absolutely terrifying... I'm not sure if it is or not I just managed to stumble upon it one day and found it hilarious This cannot be a joke, the facts are real : BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called xenix, which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the mp3 program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as telnet, which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone. -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
Am Freitag 24 April 2009 08:57:48 schrieb Denis Johnson: Sorry to reply to my own post. Issue not quite as described. Between reflashing from 23rd April to 9th, one of the attempts at connecting also involved a reboot of my Ubuntu host. Which still failed to allow me to connect with the Kernel from the 2rd. Reflashing with the kernel from the 9th then worked. However, repeating the exercise as described bellow, also fails on the Kernel from the 9th. So something else is still at play here and it may be Ubuntu/host related. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure who or how to report this but since I have gone through the test and it has taken some time to resolve. Flashing the latest SHR image and kernel from http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ 23 April uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119800+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r3 .4-om-gta02.bin I could not connect via SSH over USB from my Ubuntu 8.10 host. lsusb on the host could see the neo but could not ifup usb0 Only after reflashing just the kernel back to Apr 9, could I again reconnect via SSH. I have not tried kernels posted between those dates to work out where the problem starts. Howver to confirm it, I have reflashed back to the latest 23rd April but could not connect, then reflashed back to 9th April and worked again. Both report 2.6.29-rc3 via 'uname -r' cheers Denis Did you try Franky's suggestion? It is indeed ethX now... Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: BT Hands Free Kit
Hi What you want to do is feasible (I read post on the list with people telling they achieved to use ther bt headset with the freerunner), but it seems to be hard (and manual with around 5 steps). So I am waiting for some developpers to create a soft running on the freerunner which would facilitate these things (discovering the bt headset, pairing, routing the sound to and from the bt headset). I have seen 2 projects for this : * http://shrbluetooth.googlecode.com/ (a work in progress) * http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/noko/index.php?title=NokoBtm I have not tested them yet The link you gave is very interested, but I think it is the opposite objective : the software there has to be installed on a linux desktop computer (or laptop) and is made to transform the PC into a bt headset. With it, it is said you can then use you PC mic and speaker to make calls with any BT mobile phone. By the way it was exactlu what I was searching, so I will test it when I have time. But it is not what you want. If I understoof correctly, you already have a bt headset and you need a software running on the freerunner to connect the headset to you freerunner. Kimaidou 2009/4/23 Joerg Eesmann jeesm...@gmx.de Hello there, I am reading many things about BT-headsets and everything. Is there any possibility to use the Freerunner together with the Hand Free Kit in the car? I tried in my car, but the car does not find the Freerunner (OM2008.12 kustomized). Has anybody an idea? I found this http://nohands.sourceforge.net/source.html as a bluetooth project. Anything would help: best would be something like: ... use XYZ.opk and it will work! in worst case a bluetooth protocol description for hands free kits would also help. any idea would be appreciated. be safe, Joerg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
connect a sensor
Hello! could you help me, what to do after connecting electrically the sensor, how to setup it, or how can I make the gyroscope write data in a file like accelerometers. I big your help ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
Personally I'd like to be able to dump tangogps (or similar that uses png tiles) and use something that's able to render the map from vector data. Roadmap ? (available on maemo, not tried on openmoko yet) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] QtMoko = QtExtended on debian project
Avid wrote: Can you provide instructions to add the QtExtended application to an existing Debian installation? I dont know myself :) If you figure this out i can put the instructions to my web page. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....
Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hallo wim.delvaux, * wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com [24-04-09 04:16]: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have never tried it, but i have heared it supports SDHC cards, but can't boot it? (Booting with Uboot???/Qi???; i don't know) More or less. :) SDHC is no problem for Linux. But UBoot can not load a kernel from SDHC. The wiki has a section how to boot a rootfs from sd and use the kernel from internal flash. And *never ever* use Qi on GTA01. You will loose the DFU loader! -- MFG Tilman Baumann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: SHR Testing upgrade question
2009/4/21 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org: the upgrade changed eth0 from wireless to wired. just go edit your /etc/network/interfaces, delete the extraneous things like wlan0 if you're not using it, and make eth0 your wireless again. being that the wifi mgt tools don't work for me, all my network config is managed via this file. the problem's with the usb connection - i can't connect via ssh over usb, which i could do before the upgrade (nothing has changed on my laptop) ifconfig reveals only a loopback adapter, and 'ifup usb0' tells me 'the device is already configured' until my networking got fubar'd on the last upgrade, on friday, opkg upgrade was working fine for me. i'm not sure whether the problem is something i did, or a problem with shr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: connect a sensor
Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com writes: could you help me, what to do after connecting electrically the sensor, how to setup it, or how can I make the gyroscope write data in a file like accelerometers. Huh? What kind of gyroscope is it? How did you connect it to freerunner? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:59:26PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/4/24 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann m...@mnet-online.de: Did you try Franky's suggestion? It is indeed ethX now... what number is 'x'? i tried with 0, 1 and 2, and 0 and 1 gave a 'no such device' error, 2 gave 'unknown interface' Perhaps you could try looking in /var/log/syslog on Ubuntu? If unsure :- Unplug the USB, run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' then plug it back in and post the output to the list. Cheers Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
2009/4/24 Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk: i tried with 0, 1 and 2, and 0 and 1 gave a 'no such device' error, 2 gave 'unknown interface' Perhaps you could try looking in /var/log/syslog on Ubuntu? If unsure :- Unplug the USB, run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' then plug it back in and post the output to the list. ok, i'm confused now. why do i want to run this on my host? the problem's with the phone, isn't it? anyway: Apr 24 22:20:01 inzy-laptop /USR/SBIN/CRON[16759]: (root) CMD ([ -x /usr/sbin/update-motd ] /usr/sbin/update-motd 2/dev/null) Apr 24 22:20:04 inzy-laptop kernel: [12898.209072] eth1: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) Apr 24 22:20:34 inzy-laptop kernel: [12928.209045] eth1: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
PaulTT wrote: i think spam via bluetooth is even worse than email spamming. more and more worse. :( the idea and the implementation, however, it's veery coool :)) Well, with bluetooth you can either turn it off, or reject incoming offer. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/bluetooth-spam-tp2675548p2691649.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: connect a sensor
my project is to connect a gyroscope to my openmoko, the gyroscope is analog, but with A/D convertisser, and the output is SPI, until now I didn't connect it electrically, but supposed that the sensor is connected to available SPI pins, how can I read data from gyroscope, can I write just a setup program to access to it, or what should I know or can I obtain how could the smarthphone read from accelerometers . ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster
Christoph Pulster wrote: Our price of Freerunner GTA02 is 249 eur. Buying two units its 229 eur. I like to support two-person-communities AKA Openmoko-friends. Second we add a small english booklet to each order for free. http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/medium/handbuch-engl.jpg Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg I have had two of these pens and for both the laser pointer and the LED were most of the time dimmed. This was probably because of bad conduction with the batteries. If I unscrew the pen they would sometimes light up at full power, when pressing the buttons. The idea is very good but the quality guarantee is, in my opinion, not so high. Feel free to do with this feedback as you please. Perhaps a poll would give a more objective insight in the quality of these devices. have fun, Chris Openmoko Shop www.pulster.eu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko newbie questions
El Thursday, 23 de April de 2009 22:46:48 Foss User va escriure: Now, I don't know which one I should be going for. I am from India and we use GSM sim cards here. I use Vodafone SIM card. So which is the one I should be buying? I will also check http://www.idasystems.net/ they are the India distibutor. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
On Friday 24 April 2009 05:49:48 am Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 24 April 2009, Adam Jimerson wrote: While we are on the subject of Intone, I don't know if this was already brought up, but Intone shouldn't be able to adjust the FreeRunners volume level, while adjusting Intone to a nice volume to listen to music it also made my phone so quite I missed several calls because I couldn't hear it ring. I don't know if this was intended but IIRC mplayer has its own volume control that Intone can manage. If intone listens to fso messages it could pause on incoming call and restore the volume to its original state, then resume when the call ends. If it can do that, can't it also be set to restore the volume to its original state when intone is closed so that the user doesn't have to remember the original volume for when they close it? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
Am Freitag 24 April 2009 12:20:00 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2009/4/24 Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk: ok, i'm confused now. why do i want to run this on my host? the problem's with the phone, isn't it? I don't know why, but the interface name on my host changed. For me it's now eth1. dmesg looks like this when i plug in my neo: usb 8-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5 usb 8-1: New USB device found, idVendor=1457, idProduct=5122 usb 8-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 8-1: Product: RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget usb 8-1: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.29-rc3 with s3c2410_udc usb 8-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices eth1 (cdc_ether): not using net_device_ops yet eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.3-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:72:33 eth1: no IPv6 routers present so if u look at the beginning of the last three lines you see the interface name. greets Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Testing upgrade question
2009/4/24 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: ifconfig reveals only a loopback adapter, and 'ifup usb0' tells me 'the device is already configured' I had the same problem with shr-unstable from 20090423. 'ifconfig usb0' shows that the interface is configured but not up, so 'ifconfig usb0 up' brings the interface up and it should work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster
Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg I have had two of these pens and for both the laser pointer and the LED were most of the time dimmed. This was probably because of bad conduction with the batteries. If I unscrew the pen they would sometimes light up at full power, when pressing the buttons. The idea is very good but the quality guarantee is, in my opinion, not so high. Feel free to do with this feedback as you please. Perhaps a poll would give a more objective insight in the quality of these devices. The pen i recieved from pulster works very nicely. Actually, its the only thing i recieved when i ordered a freerunner + accesoires that Just Works. :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian
2009/4/24 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com writes: But I'm happy, asterisk runs fine in a real case. Can you check if you get lower latency by only running linphone on fr and having the 3g stick connected to fr itself? I cannot before next tuesday, but during the weekend I'll test FR connected to ADSL router directly with wifi. I'm quite sure that playing with asound.conf will fix the high latency, as using asterisk with direct plughw:0,0 (short period/buffer size) gived stuttered alsa capture, but near realtime output playback Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
What you haven't experienced then is Toothing. Apparently, it's rife on the trains between London and Brighton (in the UK) and often ends up with the people toothing each other getting it together... Nothing to do with spam. If OpenMoko made this really easy then there'd be lots of new users! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothing Being far to square for such fun, it's fortunate that my train goes to Bognor! Roland On 24 Apr 2009, at 10:48, PaulTT wrote: i think spam via bluetooth is even worse than email spamming. more and more worse. :( the idea and the implementation, however, it's veery coool :)) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Is there anything propietary in OpenMoko cells?
Hi, recently i have discovered this list with truly opened operative systems that the FSF recommeds. Is OpenMoko absolutely compromise with open source? If yes, have you thought in asking to add OpenMoko to that list? Bye ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there anything propietary in OpenMoko cells?
Javier Garcia tirengar...@yahoo.es writes: recently i have discovered this list with truly opened operative systems that the FSF recommeds. Is OpenMoko absolutely compromise with open source? If yes, have you thought in asking to add OpenMoko to that list? Depends on what you mean. Openmoko is a distro, company and a piece of hardware. I only consider the hardware here since I do not use the openmoko distro but debian on my phone. The GSM stack runs an a separate ARM processor using a proprietary operating system (Nucleus PLUS real-time operating system based on strings from the firmware image). It was not field-upgradeable until late 2008 when openmoko inc. published a port of the firmware upgrade utility fluid.exe (it's binary-only) so that a bug could be fixed. The wlan, gps and bluetooth chips also run some proprietary code but I do not know if they are field-upgradeable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
Roland Whitehead wrote: What you haven't experienced then is Toothing. Apparently, it's rife on the trains between London and Brighton (in the UK) and often ends up with the people toothing each other getting it together... Nothing to do with spam. If OpenMoko made this really easy then there'd be lots of new users! Hehe, I once did this on a ICE train. I was bored so I scanned for bluetooth devices. And then send them text files. O group of girls answered. Was really funny. Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :) -- MFG Tilman Baumann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster
tomas nackaerts wrote: Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg I have had two of these pens and for both the laser pointer and the LED were most of the time dimmed. This was probably because of bad conduction with the batteries. If I unscrew the pen they would sometimes light up at full power, when pressing the buttons. The idea is very good but the quality guarantee is, in my opinion, not so high. Feel free to do with this feedback as you please. Perhaps a poll would give a more objective insight in the quality of these devices. The pen i recieved from pulster works very nicely. Actually, its the only thing i recieved when i ordered a freerunner + accesoires that Just Works. :-) The pen just worked when I got it. Looks good, nice design. The batteries ran out very quickly. Bought new ones, they ran out very quickly. I guess the laser can drain the batteries in a minute or two, so one can't really use it much for pointing. Do a laser need that much power, or is it just a simple design that lacks current limiting? The third set of batteries didn't work well for me. conduction seems rather bad, perhaps this is fixable by installing some actual wires instead of relying on the casing. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian
Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com writes: But I'm happy, asterisk runs fine in a real case. Can you check if you get lower latency by only running linphone on fr and having the 3g stick connected to fr itself? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
El Friday, 24 de April de 2009 13:48:37 Alexey Feldgendler va escriure: O group of girls answered. Was really funny. Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :) Modern advances in mobile computing technologies still don't get one laid. Someone needs to work on that. we need to fill a bug report then. G ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
/home/root/.intone/intone_songs.db attached On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:57 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Yorick Moko wrote: when i try to add my directory it always crashes to desktop i get no error message whatsoever just a plain crash it's just one folder with 100+ mp3s Could you send me your /home/root/.intone/intone_songs.db? It's probably due to an inconsistent db. Will help me fix whatever causes this crash. BTW I'm managing around 3.5GB of songs in 25 folders. :-) Thought there's always a situation where something can happen that I've not catered for. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.30---beta-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2689065.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community intone_songs.db Description: Binary data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
2009/4/24 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann m...@mnet-online.de: Did you try Franky's suggestion? It is indeed ethX now... what number is 'x'? i tried with 0, 1 and 2, and 0 and 1 gave a 'no such device' error, 2 gave 'unknown interface' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/4/24 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann m...@mnet-online.de: Did you try Franky's suggestion? It is indeed ethX now... what number is 'x'? i tried with 0, 1 and 2, and 0 and 1 gave a 'no such device' error, 2 gave 'unknown interface' Please post here output of /sbin/ip link show It would be much easier for everyone than just guessing the name of the network device. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....
Tilman Baumann wrote: Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hallo wim.delvaux, * wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com [24-04-09 04:16]: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have never tried it, but i have heared it supports SDHC cards, but can't boot it? (Booting with Uboot???/Qi???; i don't know) More or less. :) SDHC is no problem for Linux. But UBoot can not load a kernel from SDHC. The wiki has a section how to boot a rootfs from sd and use the kernel from internal flash. And *never ever* use Qi on GTA01. You will loose the DFU loader! It says this on the wiki Booting from SDHC requires a u-boot from 2008-07-23 or later. *But pay attention* : there are problems with SDHC cards at suspend time. I got it from here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards Might only apply to GTA02 though. Ben. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Testing upgrade question
2009/4/24 Hermann Lacheiner hermann.lachei...@gmail.com: 2009/4/24 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: ifconfig reveals only a loopback adapter, and 'ifup usb0' tells me 'the device is already configured' I had the same problem with shr-unstable from 20090423. 'ifconfig usb0' shows that the interface is configured but not up, so 'ifconfig usb0 up' brings the interface up and it should work. hmm. 'device not found' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
i think spam via bluetooth is even worse than email spamming. more and more worse. :( the idea and the implementation, however, it's veery coool :)) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:44:32 +0200, Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name wrote: Hehe, I once did this on a ICE train. I was bored so I scanned for bluetooth devices. And then send them text files. O group of girls answered. Was really funny. Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :) Modern advances in mobile computing technologies still don't get one laid. Someone needs to work on that. -- Alexey Feldgendler ale...@feldgendler.ru [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
On Friday 24 April 2009, Adam Jimerson wrote: While we are on the subject of Intone, I don't know if this was already brought up, but Intone shouldn't be able to adjust the FreeRunners volume level, while adjusting Intone to a nice volume to listen to music it also made my phone so quite I missed several calls because I couldn't hear it ring. I don't know if this was intended but IIRC mplayer has its own volume control that Intone can manage. If intone listens to fso messages it could pause on incoming call and restore the volume to its original state, then resume when the call ends. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
kimaidou wrote: Yes it is, we just have to add this functionality to the dialer-app or create another one. (just playing sound using a state routing it to Mono1 - not playing it back. and then recording after playing a short signal.) it's not hard to do, even in python. I think it just hasn't been implemented because each provider provides some kind of mailbox. But it would be nice because checking the mailbox is not always free! Not always free (e.g. when you are abroad), and it is limited : * you cannot keep a message as long as you want, * you cannot copy the message to you PC, * you cannot use a I am not here message different for each caller (e.g : a message for my mum, another for my boss, etc.) * you cannot forward a voice message to another person *etc. I do like the idea. I don't know for other countries, but messages boxes in France are really limited, even if they are free. I'm really interested in this feature. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-All---Dictator---the-most-undemocratic-recording-and-dictation-software-ever-tp2669029p2692308.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] Delete all contacts on sim/export to sim/import from sim
Hi all, it seems qtextended by default imports all contacts from SIM (wether or not you want it). If the contact was already in the addressbook (like in my case: I first imported my VCF file), it tries to merge the two, but this sometimes fails (mostly because the name is shorter on the sim than on the phone). End result: 2 contacts in the list with the same number, but one with a shorter name ... Even the logic for updating the SIM is flawed: I have 200 contacts on SIM (the maximum here), and these get imported. But when I try to edit a contact that's imported from SIM, I get a warning that the SIM is full and the contact can't be saved on the SIM, even though the contact is on the SIM (this can be a simple bug, though). So my question is: can I prevent this automatic import from SIM contacts (make it optional via a config file or so)? Or is there a way to delete all contacts on the SIM via the qtextended interface (I might have overlooked something)? Ideally, I would have 2 options: export all to sim, import all from sim. No intelligent logic when a contact gets updated, that the SIM needs updating as well ... I don't care about merging and stuff, and my current SonyEricsson P900 does it like that as well :-) Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
rhn wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:45:28 +0200, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently How recent would that be? I run yaouh to get the latest tiles where I have updated the map. Of course, this is often the same tiles as I refreshed a couple of days earlier. So I think this has to be optional. Some kind of uses need to check fairly new tiles. I use the program in exactly the same way. Skipping files is not for sake of less transfer, but for less time spent on contacting remote servers (that's the same reason why I believe deleting files long unused is necessary). As of now, skipping files one day old is completely sufficient for me. Unless you do many updates every day and the tile server gets updated quicker than in my area. The value should be adjustable (including 0) in my opinion. Sometimes yaouh crash (or the phone crash.) When restarting the download, avoiding checking the same stuff again would be nice. Skipping the most recent files will do that - another way is to have the app record how far it gets and restart from the same place. * forcing download empty tiles What does that mean? The current version treats the empty files (size 0) left by tangoGPS as ones needed to download by force, that is, not checking for the server modification date. For example download every tile that has 2 (or 3 or four) neighbors downloaded to 'fill the gaps' in the map. That's an interesting idea... unfortunately, the program would need to be rewritten because it uses recursive traversal of dictionaries now (and I think Yaouh! does so, too). Yaouh recurses through the directories, but python lets you control the order. You can have the top level first or the bottom level first. Ah, excellent! It'd also be nice to have an option for automatically zooming out. That is, if I have a bunch of tiles at zoom 15 (downloaded using tangogps perhaps) then I want the zoom 14 tiles covering the same area, as well as the zoom 13 tiles, and so on all the way up to the top. Of course, the number of tiles quickly gets lower as one goes up, and usually hits a tile that is there already after a few levels. I think this will be the next thing I implement when I get some free time. I'm looking forward to that. :-) Another thing that'd be nice to have, is duplicate tile detection. There are a lot of sea tiles, empty land tiles, and probably some tiles containing only forest or similiar. This could save lots of space, but not download time. It'd still be necessary to check if empty land suddenly isn't empty anymore. Is it really that good? Thousands of tiles wold be necessary to make any real difference, even if the internal storage of a Freerunner is used. I have about 60.000 tiles. The blank tile has size 103. I assume that any tile with actual detail won't compress so well. There are 28.000 such tiles, almost half of them. On ext3, they actually use 4096 byte each, as they have to use whole blocks. That's 109MB saved from a total of 316MB. A reiserfs system with tail packing might get closer to the 2.75MB actually needed. A few megabytes saved when a few hundred is laying there isn't worth the trouble. Imagine storing modify dates for each sea tile independently when they are all symlinked to the same file (if you want to use the skipping functionality mentioned above to save time). ls -l shows me different timestamps for a file and for the symlink pointing to it. The symlink timestamp seems to be the creation time for the link. The file timestamp is updated when the file is updated, no matter what link is used to update it. So symlinks can indeed be used. When you check a symlink and find that the file has changed - break the link and download the now unique file. (In theory, it might match another existing file, e.g. when empty land turns into empty forest.) When the file isn't changed, just delete the link and recreate it, in order to force a new link timestamp. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote: El Friday, 24 de April de 2009 13:48:37 Alexey Feldgendler va escriure: O group of girls answered. Was really funny. Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :) Modern advances in mobile computing technologies still don't get one laid. Someone needs to work on that. we need to fill a bug report then. G And if someone stets the bug on 'WORKSFORME'? -- MFG Tilman Baumann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....
Ben Wilson wrote: Tilman Baumann wrote: Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hallo wim.delvaux, * wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com [24-04-09 04:16]: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have never tried it, but i have heared it supports SDHC cards, but can't boot it? (Booting with Uboot???/Qi???; i don't know) More or less. :) SDHC is no problem for Linux. But UBoot can not load a kernel from SDHC. The wiki has a section how to boot a rootfs from sd and use the kernel from internal flash. And *never ever* use Qi on GTA01. You will loose the DFU loader! It says this on the wiki Booting from SDHC requires a u-boot from 2008-07-23 or later. *But pay attention* : there are problems with SDHC cards at suspend time. This is GTA02 I got it from here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards Might only apply to GTA02 though. It does. Unfortunately the ancient knowledge of GTA01 users degenerates in the wiki. Some GTA02 only topics are not marked as such. -- MFG Tilman Baumann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Thomas Zimmermann zimmerm...@vdm-design.de wrote: Am Freitag 24 April 2009 12:20:00 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2009/4/24 Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk: ok, i'm confused now. why do i want to run this on my host? the problem's with the phone, isn't it? I don't know why, but the interface name on my host changed. For me it's now eth1. Check: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005384.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name wrote: Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote: El Friday, 24 de April de 2009 13:48:37 Alexey Feldgendler va escriure: O group of girls answered. Was really funny. Bur did not help me to ge laied tough. :) Modern advances in mobile computing technologies still don't get one laid. Someone needs to work on that. we need to fill a bug report then. G And if someone stets the bug on 'WORKSFORME'? They get unceremoniously lynched by the list... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Matthias Felsche wrote: Dear list, a new application has been released at opkg.org: http://www.opkg.org/package_207.html http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator It's a recording application which records your speech via mic, the incoming gsm-sound only or both -- a whole phonecall. I hope you will enjoy it! Please gimme feedback on errors etc. I already know it's recording volume is quite low. I tried it with the SHR testing distro. Dictator recorded both sides of a phone call, albeit very low. Recording from mic only didn't work for me. I got nothing, even though I happened to sneeze loudly in the middle of one test. Also, dictator seems to record in stereo, while these sources are mono. One channel is silent. Avoiding unnecessary stereo gives the cpu less work, which is important with this weak cpu. (The game linball works with mono sound files but have choppy sound with stereo, for example.) Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] Woosh! browser from Hackable:1
They got some cool stuff going on over at Hackable:1. One that caught my eye is their new web browser, Woosh. Announcement: http://lists.hackable1.org/pipermail/hackable1-user/2009-April/000237.html and their wiki page: http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/WooshBrowser I installed their .deb into my non-Hackable:1 debian install (Debian-FSO) without issue and it works great. It is totally minimal, but quite fast. --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question
Here is what I have for my interfaces configuration /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # Wireless interfaces #iface wlan0 inet dhcp #wireless_mode managed #wireless_essid any iface atml0 inet dhcp # Wired or wireless interfaces iface eth0 inet dhcp wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf iface eth1 inet dhcp # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether) # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 gateway 192.168.0.200 up echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 /etc/resolv.conf up echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 /etc/resolv.conf # Bluetooth networking iface bnep0 inet dhcp can someone tell me what I am doing wrong to get wireless working as eth0? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 23 April 2009 07:29:46 am arne anka wrote: you should be able, to determine the ap associated to by using the iwutils. does it also happen, when you execute the dhclient manually? It seems something is not right in my network interfaces is not right, iwlist scan on both eth0 and wlan0 (even though it is commented out) produces a Interface doesn't support scanning so it seems that I don't have eth0 correctly configured for wireless. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
On Friday 24 April 2009 15:16:38 Nelson Castillo wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Thomas Zimmermann zimmerm...@vdm-design.de wrote: Am Freitag 24 April 2009 12:20:00 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2009/4/24 Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk: ok, i'm confused now. why do i want to run this on my host? the problem's with the phone, isn't it? I don't know why, but the interface name on my host changed. For me it's now eth1. Check: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005384.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community On my Ubuntu 8.10 the shr-unstable behaves exactly as described in the link. The X depends on your number of network cards. I use a notebook which has a cable and a Wifi ethernet adapter named eth0 and eth1. However the Neo becomes eth3 as it connects. I collected the information from the Wiki about USB Networking in a script, which i use until I managed to integrate the Neo better into Ubuntu and it's various network configuration mechanisms. The script has a variable for the interface as the first line. Adapt it to your needs and run it after you have connected your Neo to the USB port. I use ifconfig to check out the known network cards and their configuration. Regards thomas No Neo: eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:00:22:c5:db inet6 addr: fe80::215:ff:fe22:c5db/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:117175 errors:141 dropped:141 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:9346 errors:0 dropped:5 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:3955 (3.9 KB) TX bytes:4599 (4.5 KB) Interrupt:21 Memory:c840-c8400fff loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:2560 (2.5 KB) TX bytes:2560 (2.5 KB) Neo connected: eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:00:22:c5:db inet6 addr: fe80::215:ff:fe22:c5db/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:131173 errors:141 dropped:141 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:10491 errors:0 dropped:5 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:3955 (3.9 KB) TX bytes:4599 (4.5 KB) Interrupt:21 Memory:c840-c8400fff eth3 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1f:11:01:2e:ee inet6 addr: fe80::21f:11ff:fe01:2eee/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:1564 (1.5 KB) TX bytes:580 (580.0 B) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:2560 (2.5 KB) TX bytes:2560 (2.5 KB) Neo configured with frnet.sh eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:00:22:c5:db inet6 addr: fe80::215:ff:fe22:c5db/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:133181 errors:141 dropped:141 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:10667 errors:0 dropped:5 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:3955 (3.9 KB) TX bytes:4599 (4.5 KB) Interrupt:21 Memory:c840-c8400fff eth3 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1f:11:01:2e:ee inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21f:11ff:fe01:2eee/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:46 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:57 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:5546 (5.5 KB) TX bytes:10629 (10.6 KB) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:2560 (2.5 KB) TX bytes:2560 (2.5 KB) frnet.sh Description: application/shellscript ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org
Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question
/etc/network/interfaces has nothing, repeat, nothing to do with the _naming_ of the interfaces! it kicks in onyl after the interfaces are created already. as i wrote already in my first answer: check the udev rules! here on my desktop debian it is /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules that makes the interfaces. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictationsoftware ever
Hi.. Helge Hafting wrote: Also, dictator seems to record in stereo, while these sources are mono. One channel is silent. Avoiding unnecessary stereo gives the cpu less work, which is important with this weak cpu. I haven't tested Dictator yet.. but I really liked the way the other recording software[1] did it.. with incoming/outgoing sound separated on different channel that.. Maybe that's something for a next version, too? if it is already, sorry 'bout the noise.. :) [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
serial console port
I have Neo FreeRunner and Dboard_v3. I connected my phone to debug board via flexible cable and usb cable to my windown PC. I could not get u boot prompt or anything from console serial. I can see serial com port for debug board on my PC, but i could not get anything from the phone. I use Hyper terminal to talk the phone. I am trying to access u boot via Debug board_v3 using serial port, is this possible? please help ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question
I don't have a udev rule like that here are the udev rules that I have 50-udev-default.rules 95-udev-late.rules 60-persistent-input.rules local.rules 60-persistent-storage-tape.rules permissions.rules 60-persistent-storage.rules run.rules 80-drivers.rules udev.rules I checked them but I didn't see anything that looked like it configured network devices, then again it doesn't help that I don't know what I am looking for. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:11 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: /etc/network/interfaces has nothing, repeat, nothing to do with the _naming_ of the interfaces! it kicks in onyl after the interfaces are created already. as i wrote already in my first answer: check the udev rules! here on my desktop debian it is /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules that makes the interfaces. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question
Funny according to gmail it is the same thread, anyways when I did the grep for wlan nothing was returned but eth returned this r...@om-gta02 /etc/udev/rules.d $ grep -r eth /etc/udev/ /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:SUBSYSTEM==aoe, NAME=etherd/%k, GROUP=disk /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules:SUBSYSTEM==aoe, KERNEL==discover, NAME=etherd/%k /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules:SUBSYSTEM==aoe, KERNEL==err, NAME=etherd/%k /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules:SUBSYSTEM==aoe, KERNEL==interfaces, NAME=etherd/%k /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules:SUBSYSTEM==aoe, KERNEL==revalidate, NAME=etherd/%k On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: since you started a new thread w/o sufficiently quoting or explaining your issue, i am not sure, if the name you _have_ is wlan0 or ethX (where X != 0). in either case my first attempt would be to grep through /etc/udev/ for the static part (ie wlan or eth): grep -r wlan /etc/udev/ and if something turnes up to have a lokk at the line in question. f ex the rule mentioned reads SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==00:1a:a0:a0:f8:18, ATTR{type}==1, KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth0 ATTR(address) denotes the mac address. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question
/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:SUBSYSTEM==aoe, NAME=etherd/%k, GROUP=disk well, that's not we are looking for. next step: ist the driver built-in or loaded as module? in case it is a module (which name?) modinf modulename would be interesting. and the, grepping /etc for wlan would be interesting: grep -Ir wlan /etc/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster
2009/4/24 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: The batteries ran out very quickly. Sounds somewhat familiar. The third set of batteries didn't work well for me. conduction seems rather bad, perhaps this is fixable by installing some actual wires instead of relying on the casing. Maybe we could get a bigP pen fix rework SOP? -Timo (sorry, Friday) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:SUBSYSTEM==aoe, NAME=etherd/%k, GROUP=disk well, that's not we are looking for. next step: ist the driver built-in or loaded as module? in case it is a module (which name?) modinf modulename would be interesting. and the, grepping /etc for wlan would be interesting: grep -Ir wlan /etc/ As far as I know the driver is built-in the kernel as for grepping /etc for wlan this is all it get /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....
2009/4/24 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com: ... Micro SD card does it support ? I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have a Transcend 4Gb sdhc card and it works fine with my neo1973. I tried booting off of it but apparently the stock bootloader can't boot from microSD cards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question
/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools containing? mine on my desktop does nowhere mention the string wlan. do a grep through /var and maybe a strings /boot/vmlinuz | grep wlan if it is built-in and no udev rule exists, the name would be hardcoded and can, if at all, only be overridden by a boot param. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a app similar to the Dog Whistle for the iPhone
Adam Jimerson wrote: Thanks that is what I was looking for, No probs. to bad there isn't a UI or anything for it. Tadaaa! Hope pasting it into an email doesn't ruin the formatting. This is my first pygtk/pygst program and it has been cobbled together from various code examples on the web. I hope you like it. Stuart #!/usr/bin/env python ## # testtone.py # Hacked together by Stuart Pullinger (s dot pullinger at elec dot gla dot ac dot uk) from the following sources: # http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/index.html # http://pygstdocs.berlios.de/pygst-tutorial/index.html # http://www.jonobacon.org/2006/08/28/getting-started-with-gstreamer-with-python/ ## import pygtk pygtk.require('2.0') import gtk import pygst pygst.require(0.10) import gst class TestTone: def startstop(self, widget, data=None): if self.playing: #we are playing so stop self.pipeline.set_state(gst.STATE_NULL) self.playing = False else: #we are stopped so start playing self.pipeline.set_state(gst.STATE_PLAYING) self.playing = True def change_freq(self, adj): self.audiotestsrc.set_property('freq', adj.value) def change_vol(self, adj): self.audiotestsrc.set_property('volume', adj.value) def delete_event(self, widget, event, data=None): print delete event occurred return False def destroy(self, widget, data=None): print destroy signal occurred gtk.main_quit() def __init__(self): # create a new window self.window = gtk.Window(gtk.WINDOW_TOPLEVEL) self.window.connect(delete_event, self.delete_event) self.window.connect(destroy, self.destroy) self.window.set_border_width(10) self.button = gtk.Button(Start / Stop) self.button.connect(clicked, self.startstop, None) self.adjustfreq = gtk.Adjustment(440, 20, 2, 10, 100, 0) self.freq_button = gtk.SpinButton(adjustment=self.adjustfreq, climb_rate=0.5, digits=2) self.adjustfreq.connect('value_changed', self.change_freq) self.adjustvol = gtk.Adjustment(0.4, 0, 1, 0.01, 0.1, 0) self.vol_button = gtk.SpinButton(adjustment=self.adjustvol, climb_rate=0.5, digits=2) self.adjustvol.connect('value_changed', self.change_vol) self.pipeline = gst.Pipeline(mypipeline) self.audiotestsrc = gst.element_factory_make(audiotestsrc, audio) self.audiotestsrc.set_property('freq', 440) self.audiotestsrc.set_property('volume', 0.4) self.pipeline.add(self.audiotestsrc) self.sink = gst.element_factory_make(alsasink, sink) self.pipeline.add(self.sink) self.audiotestsrc.link(self.sink) self.playing = False self.vbox = gtk.VBox(False, 0) self.vbox.pack_start(self.freq_button) self.vbox.pack_start(self.vol_button) self.vbox.pack_start(self.button) self.window.add(self.vbox) self.button.show() self.freq_button.show() self.vol_button.show() self.vbox.show() self.window.show() def main(self): # All PyGTK applications must have a gtk.main(). Control ends here # and waits for an event to occur (like a key press or mouse event). gtk.main() # If the program is run directly or passed as an argument to the python # interpreter then create a HelloWorld instance and show it if __name__ == __main__: testtone = TestTone() testtone.main() ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Woosh! browser from Hackable:1
does it have ssl support? On 4/24/09, Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org wrote: They got some cool stuff going on over at Hackable:1. One that caught my eye is their new web browser, Woosh. Announcement: http://lists.hackable1.org/pipermail/hackable1-user/2009-April/000237.html and their wiki page: http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/WooshBrowser I installed their .deb into my non-Hackable:1 debian install (Debian-FSO) without issue and it works great. It is totally minimal, but quite fast. --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster
LOL 2009/4/24 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: 2009/4/24 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: The batteries ran out very quickly. Sounds somewhat familiar. The third set of batteries didn't work well for me. conduction seems rather bad, perhaps this is fixable by installing some actual wires instead of relying on the casing. Maybe we could get a bigP pen fix rework SOP? -Timo (sorry, Friday) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Woosh! browser from Hackable:1
Yep, I just tried it. It is webkit-based, I believe. --Brock On 2009.04.24.20.51, rakshat hooja wrote: | does it have ssl support? | | On 4/24/09, Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org wrote: | They got some cool stuff going on over at Hackable:1. One that caught my | eye is their new web browser, Woosh. Announcement: | |http://lists.hackable1.org/pipermail/hackable1-user/2009-April/000237.html | | and their wiki page: | |http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/WooshBrowser | | I installed their .deb into my non-Hackable:1 debian install | (Debian-FSO) without issue and it works great. It is totally minimal, | but quite fast. | | --Brock | | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community | | | | -- | -- | Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware | and is also a very feature rich browser. | www.firefox.com | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Woosh! browser from Hackable:1
any posibility to repack it as ipkg, for SHR/OM2009? 2009/4/24 Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org: Yep, I just tried it. It is webkit-based, I believe. --Brock On 2009.04.24.20.51, rakshat hooja wrote: | does it have ssl support? | | On 4/24/09, Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org wrote: | They got some cool stuff going on over at Hackable:1. One that caught my | eye is their new web browser, Woosh. Announcement: | | http://lists.hackable1.org/pipermail/hackable1-user/2009-April/000237.html | | and their wiki page: | | http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/WooshBrowser | | I installed their .deb into my non-Hackable:1 debian install | (Debian-FSO) without issue and it works great. It is totally minimal, | but quite fast. | | --Brock | | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community | | | | -- | -- | Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware | and is also a very feature rich browser. | www.firefox.com | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Woosh! browser from Hackable:1
rakshat hooja wrote: does it have ssl support? Every webkit based browser has it. You only have to use the right libcurl (compiled with libgnutls support) or the right libsoap (for webkit/gtk). If you need that, search in the archives. I've posted some binaries that could help you ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while the phone will learn where it is all the time and can aply diffrent settings do things according to that? -f- On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, adding to my last comments... Onen wrote: Ok. If I understand you correctly, you would like some kind of anonymous account, where people could upload if they don't want to create an account? Did I understand you correctly? Well I have nothing against it, it is a good idea to me. But is it good enough regarding legal aspect? Creative commons license makes you have to put the name of contributors (and possibly link them to the data they provided, not sure about this). Is an anonymous account compatible with this? I guess, if people would upload using a same account, this would be one contributor name, and would legally be ok, isn't it? Another point against an open account: imagine somebody starts uploading garbage. Once we notice it. It could be difficult to know what to delete, if a lot of people are using this account. I am not very sure we could reliably rely on IP address to find out what should be deleted. Onen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
And then you can have a sync scripts that syncs to what ever database you like, cellhunter, openBmap -f- On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM, fredrik normann fredrik.normann.j...@gmail.com wrote: Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while the phone will learn where it is all the time and can aply diffrent settings do things according to that? -f- On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, adding to my last comments... Onen wrote: Ok. If I understand you correctly, you would like some kind of anonymous account, where people could upload if they don't want to create an account? Did I understand you correctly? Well I have nothing against it, it is a good idea to me. But is it good enough regarding legal aspect? Creative commons license makes you have to put the name of contributors (and possibly link them to the data they provided, not sure about this). Is an anonymous account compatible with this? I guess, if people would upload using a same account, this would be one contributor name, and would legally be ok, isn't it? Another point against an open account: imagine somebody starts uploading garbage. Once we notice it. It could be difficult to know what to delete, if a lot of people are using this account. I am not very sure we could reliably rely on IP address to find out what should be deleted. Onen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SF/CA BuzzFix Party (Was Re:US Buzz/GPS Fix)
From: Doug Jones dj...@frombob.to Date: April 22, 2009 12:51:19 PM PDT To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org +1 I'm also in California. If somebody threw a Buzz Fix party anywhere in California, I would be there. Isn't Openmoko in California too? Fremont Buzz Fix Party, anyone? I do have soldering experience, but not with such small parts. (In my day, everything was the size of a Buick.) But I'm game. I'm San Francisco and would also show up for a CA BuzzFix Party if somebody threw one. For the SF Bay Area, I would suggest a couple places, both in San Francisco: NoiseBridge, a hackerspace that focuses on both hardware and software hacks in The Mission. PariSoma, a co-working space in SOMA that is the the SF/North Bay OpenMoko reselller and where I bought my FR from :) Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Andy Selby andyfro...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/4/24 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have a Transcend 4Gb sdhc card and it works fine with my neo1973. I tried booting off of it but apparently the stock bootloader can't boot from microSD cards The GTA01 u-boot only recognices properly uSD but both uSD and uSDHC are properly recogniced by the kernel. If your GTA01 has no SIM installed the SD is not detectected by u-boot. (I have a fake one cut from a credit card) In http://n2.nabble.com/-PATCH--u-boot-support-for-sdhc-card-on-gta01-tp2481011p2481011.html Frédéric Leroy has a patch that works for him. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Radek Polak wrote: Hi Mikko, i have already something descibed it in previous mail. But in more details it's like that: Let's say you have working project for X11/QT in QTCreator. Moro Radek! Im having some problems and, well, turning for your advice. I created a project and got it ported nicely but the window shows up in the top-left corner on moko display and, it is not fullscreen... it also lacks the theme of qte, so it looks gray. I studied the examples in qte build dir and noticed that those use some macros to create the main(), after hours of try and error I gave up. Do you use those macros to create your main, and if not, how do you manage to make your app fullscreen and with the correct theme? I appreciate all the help you have given and are hoping to receive some nice pointers again. So, kudos in advance. - -- husku -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknyBacACgkQYntoxOJkGJJwUACeKmvT47KNLn+YXgpBpAKdhCn5 CR0AoKq2Z8KOUSo0XX6AzHccwgtEl3Jq =TIhN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
2009/4/24 Roland Whitehead rol...@quru.com: What you haven't experienced then is Toothing. Apparently, it's rife on the trains between London and Brighton (in the UK) and often ends up with the people toothing each other getting it together... Nothing to do with spam. If OpenMoko made this really easy then there'd be lots of new users! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothing Which has a link to Dogging! BlueDogging anyone? :) I hacked my Bluetooth logger to post devices found to Twitter. A more interesting read than most people's Twitter feeds! John. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
fredrik normann wrote: Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while the phone will learn where it is all the time and can aply diffrent settings do things according to that? -f- It seems a smart behaviour but still there is no activity in this direction in the FSO stack. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SF/CA BuzzFix Party (Was Re:US Buzz/GPS Fix)
I am also in the SF Bay area (Menlo Park) and would gladly catch a buzz fix party anywhere in the Bay Area. Its awfully short notice and I don't have the parts or equipment on hand to do the fix, but I will be at the SuperHappyDevHouse tomorrow in Oakland: http://superhappydevhouse.org/SuperHappyDevHouse32 But if someone wanted to show up with parts and soldering iron, I'll have my Neo and play along. Jason On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Steve 'dillo Okay (Roadknight Mobility Labs) armad...@gothpunk.com wrote: From: Doug Jones dj...@frombob.to Date: April 22, 2009 12:51:19 PM PDT To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org +1 I'm also in California. If somebody threw a Buzz Fix party anywhere in California, I would be there. Isn't Openmoko in California too? Fremont Buzz Fix Party, anyone? I do have soldering experience, but not with such small parts. (In my day, everything was the size of a Buick.) But I'm game. I'm San Francisco and would also show up for a CA BuzzFix Party if somebody threw one. For the SF Bay Area, I would suggest a couple places, both in San Francisco: NoiseBridge, a hackerspace that focuses on both hardware and software hacks in The Mission. PariSoma, a co-working space in SOMA that is the the SF/North Bay OpenMoko reselller and where I bought my FR from :) Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.net wrote: On Friday 24 April 2009 15:16:38 Nelson Castillo wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Thomas Zimmermann zimmerm...@vdm-design.de wrote: Am Freitag 24 April 2009 12:20:00 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2009/4/24 Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk: ok, i'm confused now. why do i want to run this on my host? the problem's with the phone, isn't it? I don't know why, but the interface name on my host changed. For me it's now eth1. Check: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005384.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community On my Ubuntu 8.10 the shr-unstable behaves exactly as described in the link. The X depends on your number of network cards. I use a notebook which has a cable and a Wifi ethernet adapter named eth0 and eth1. However the Neo becomes eth3 as it connects. I collected the information from the Wiki about USB Networking in a script, which i use until I managed to integrate the Neo better into Ubuntu and it's various network configuration mechanisms. The script has a variable for the interface as the first line. Adapt it to your needs and run it after you have connected your Neo to the USB port. I use ifconfig to check out the known network cards and their configuration. On my Fedora 10 laptop nothing appears to happen anymore when I plug in the Neo. No messages in /var/log/messages, nothing in dmesg. [m8...@fedora10 ~]$ sudo /sbin/ip link show 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:1c:23:01:c4:a0 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: wmaster0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000 link/ieee802.11 00:1b:77:60:df:64 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 4: wlan0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:1b:77:60:df:64 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 5: pan0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN link/ether 52:6d:38:6a:32:49 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff I am booting from U-Boot (in NAND) though, the post referenced above mentions SHR-testing (the distro on the SD I'm booting from) behaving differently when booted from QI. I get the same result on my Xubuntu laptop so I fear that something else got broken with the opkg update, opkg upgrade I performed. So far I haven't found a description of what is needed on the side of the FreeRunner itself. When I check ifconfig -a on the FreeRunner I see an eth0 interface with no IP address, eth0:avah alias with IP 169.254.7.134 and the loopback device. ip link show shows the loopback device and the eth0 interface. When I check the /etc/network/interfaces it contains a comment right before the auto usb0 section saying: # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether) # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr ifup usb0 retruns: ifup: interface usb0 already configured but ifconfig usb0 returns: ifconfig usb0: error fetching interface information: Device not found modprobe g_ether on the FreeRunner fails to locate the module so maybe some modules are missing? Or is this module no longer needed? loading the usbnet module on either the Fedora or the Xubuntu laptop does not help. One final note: the hardware is fine, when I start FDOM from the device's main memory it is still recognized. Thanks in advance. Bram ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Delete all contacts on sim/export to sim/import from sim
On 24/4/09 10:53 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Hi all, it seems qtextended by default imports all contacts from SIM (wether or not you want it). If the contact was already in the addressbook (like in my case: I first imported my VCF file), it tries to merge the two, but this sometimes fails (mostly because the name is shorter on the sim than on the phone). End result: 2 contacts in the list with the same number, but one with a shorter name ... Even the logic for updating the SIM is flawed: I have 200 contacts on SIM (the maximum here), and these get imported. But when I try to edit a contact that's imported from SIM, I get a warning that the SIM is full and the contact can't be saved on the SIM, even though the contact is on the SIM (this can be a simple bug, though). So my question is: can I prevent this automatic import from SIM contacts (make it optional via a config file or so)? Or is there a way to delete all contacts on the SIM via the qtextended interface (I might have overlooked something)? Ideally, I would have 2 options: export all to sim, import all from sim. No intelligent logic when a contact gets updated, that the SIM needs updating as well ... I don't care about merging and stuff, and my current SonyEricsson P900 does it like that as well :-) I believe 4.2 used to be like that, with a menu entry for sim import/export, but someone thought that too convenient. Please add to trak and I can look at reimplementing this, as it really bugs me too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
2009/4/25 Nelson Castillo arhu...@freaks-unidos.net: On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Thomas Zimmermann zimmerm...@vdm-design.de wrote: Am Freitag 24 April 2009 12:20:00 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2009/4/24 Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk: ok, i'm confused now. why do i want to run this on my host? the problem's with the phone, isn't it? I don't know why, but the interface name on my host changed. For me it's now eth1. Check: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005384.html well, this is interesting. lsusb no longer shows my neo as attached what gives? i rebooted the phone and the laptop, and still nothing dmesg gives this, which looks like it can see the phone, but not figure out what it is [ 1448.937469] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 1451.316831] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 18 [ 1466.428058] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [ 1481.644065] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [ 1481.863121] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 19 [ 1482.092099] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [ 1483.696065] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 20 [ 1498.808067] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [ 1514.032503] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [ 1514.248047] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 21 [ 1529.361074] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [ 1544.581050] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [ 1544.797061] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 22 [ 1555.205040] usb 1-1: device not accepting address 22, error -110 [ 1555.319135] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 23 [ 1565.728069] usb 1-1: device not accepting address 23, error -110 [ 1565.729365] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 any ideas? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Delete all contacts on sim/export to sim/import from sim
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:39:24 +1000 Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote: On 24/4/09 10:53 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Hi all, it seems qtextended by default imports all contacts from SIM (wether or not you want it). snip I believe 4.2 used to be like that, with a menu entry for sim import/export, but someone thought that too convenient. Please add to trak and I can look at reimplementing this, as it really bugs me too. Hi Lorn, ticket in karadog's trac created as an enhancement request. For the rest, I think I tracked it down to the file src/libraries/qtopiapim/qcontactsqlio.cpp, function ContactSqlIO::matchPhoneNumber. I added a comment to the ticket, maybe you can see if my rewrite of that bit of logic is ok: http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/38#comment:1 With friendly regards, Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA01 - qtextendedimproved -kernel image
Hi all, I want to update my NEO1973 (GTA01v4) to the newest available version of qtembeddedimproved and some kernel. Since the WIKI generally speaks about the freerunner, stating exceptions for GTA01 that turn out to refer to the freerunner, confuses me. So I downloaded the following files : qt-extended-4.4.3-rootfs.jffs2 testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin Now my devices hangs while stating 'starting kernel'. So I presume the testing-om-gta01... is not a proper kernel image. QUESTION : which is the latest compatible GTA01 kernel and where can I find it ? Thx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, @Yorick Moko - Thanks for the db file. Will look for the problem. @ vendion - When mplayer is already playing something - I don't think the ringtone will be played too. Intone already remembers the volume to which it was set when closed. I can restore the system volume too. Will add that too. Thanks. @ Al Johnson - I agree. the ability to pause on incoming calls is missing. I'm working on it. Should be done by Sunday. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.30---beta-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2701088.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA01 - qtextendedimproved -kernel image
I have a GTA01 which I am using with Qt Extended and I have been wondering the same for a few days but as I have been really busy at work I did not find much resources but I guess that we will have to compile it. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:32 PM, wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wrote: Hi all, I want to update my NEO1973 (GTA01v4) to the newest available version of qtembeddedimproved and some kernel. Since the WIKI generally speaks about the freerunner, stating exceptions for GTA01 that turn out to refer to the freerunner, confuses me. So I downloaded the following files : qt-extended-4.4.3-rootfs.jffs2 testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin Now my devices hangs while stating 'starting kernel'. So I presume the testing-om-gta01... is not a proper kernel image. QUESTION : which is the latest compatible GTA01 kernel and where can I find it ? Thx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pablo Miño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
2009/4/24 Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com: Flashing the latest SHR image and kernel from http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ 23 April uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119800+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r3.4-om-gta02.bin I could not connect via SSH over USB from my Ubuntu 8.10 host. lsusb on the host could see the neo but could not ifup usb0 Only after reflashing just the kernel back to Apr 9, could I again reconnect via SSH. I have not tried kernels posted between those dates to work out where the problem starts. Howver to confirm it, I have reflashed back to the latest 23rd April but could not connect, then reflashed back to 9th April and worked again. is this related to a discrepancy in the version of the modules? i.e. the modules not being the same as the version of the kernel? it's been pointed out to me that the kernel is version 2.6.29-rc3, while the modules are apparently version -rc2 where can i get an older version of the kernel - the only one on the shr site appears to be the latest, i.e. 22nd april? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community