Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:15:00 +0200
leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 I've changed strategy on the unpredictive
 qtopia/qtextended/qtextendedimproved keyboard.
 Instead of patching the matchbox keyboard I've changed the original
 qtopia keyboard. I've stretched it a little to make it larger and
 higher and i made it unpredictable. I added another gesture: if you
 slide from bottom-right along the diagonal to up-left you can toggle
 prediction.
 
 here you can find the binary and the patch.
 http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/26/qtextended-keyboard-made-unpredictive/
 
 the patch is on Franky's git tree but I guess it works with any Qt*
 since the keyboard doesn't seem changed at all. The binary is for the
 qt-extended-improved I'm using..
 
 two improvements are possible:
  - give a visual feedback when toggling prediction on/off
  - well, there are three more diagonal gestures that could be used if
 you have ideas.
 
 now matchbox seems quite useless.
 
 feedbacks are most welcome.
 
 ciao,
 leonardo.

Hi Leonardo,

thanks alrady!
Btw: your patch (diff) is reversed :-)

Franky

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Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:15:00 +0200
leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 I've changed strategy on the unpredictive
 qtopia/qtextended/qtextendedimproved keyboard.
 Instead of patching the matchbox keyboard I've changed the original
 qtopia keyboard. I've stretched it a little to make it larger and
 higher and i made it unpredictable. I added another gesture: if you
 slide from bottom-right along the diagonal to up-left you can toggle
 prediction.
 

Hi Leonardo,

your patch is in my git now and I'm recompiling as we speak, thanks
again!


Franky

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[all e/illume based] copy/paste

2009-04-26 Thread Petr Vanek
hi,

has copy/paste been discussed and some solution exist? I tried to
search through the wiki but no luck. selecting and copying text, then
pasting in applications doesn't seem to be really possible. The minimal
typical scenarios would probably be from sms/email to another sms/email
or web browser and vice-versa. Any ideas?

thank you
Petr


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Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone

2009-04-26 Thread rhn
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:40:19 +0200, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com
wrote:
 rhn ha scritto:
 This program was started before Yaouh! was published. Initially, it only
 downloaded the empty tiles, so I called it fill_gaps.py. For a long
time,
 I
 felt it's sufficient, so I didn't change it. Recently, I decided that I
 need something smarter - I tried out Yaouh!, which didn't have some of
 the
 funcionaltiy I wanted. The code was a bit messy, too.
   
 
 which funcionality do you want on yaouh? :)
 
The features I listed in the original post... Falling back to other mirrors
when a file can't be downloaded, removing old files and command-line
operation. I think merging both programs would be the best. I'd do it
myself, but I couldn't find my way through the code...

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FOR SALE: Two batteries and neoprene case

2009-04-26 Thread Ken Restivo
I have an OpenMoko neoprene carrying case and two (2) OpenMoko batteries for 
sale if anyone wants them.

Make me an offer. I'm in San Francisco so if you're local to the Bay Area I'll 
meet you somewhere. Otherwise I suppose I can ship it US mail reasonably 
cheaply.

Thanks.

(Sorry about the SPAM; I didn't realize how busy the list had become and forgot 
to put a big For Sale at the top).

-ken

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Re: [all e/illume based] copy/paste

2009-04-26 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Use ctrl+c and ctrl+v. Works well to me :P
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Re: [all e/illume based] copy/paste

2009-04-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:28:44 +0200 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz said:

 hi,
 
 has copy/paste been discussed and some solution exist? I tried to
 search through the wiki but no luck. selecting and copying text, then
 pasting in applications doesn't seem to be really possible. The minimal
 typical scenarios would probably be from sms/email to another sms/email
 or web browser and vice-versa. Any ideas?

nothing to do with e/illume, all to do with toolkit.

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Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:15:00 +0200
leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 I've changed strategy on the unpredictive
 qtopia/qtextended/qtextendedimproved keyboard.
 Instead of patching the matchbox keyboard I've changed the original
 qtopia keyboard. I've stretched it a little to make it larger and
 higher and i made it unpredictable. I added another gesture: if you
 slide from bottom-right along the diagonal to up-left you can toggle
 prediction.
 
 here you can find the binary and the patch.
 http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/26/qtextended-keyboard-made-unpredictive/
 
 the patch is on Franky's git tree but I guess it works with any Qt*
 since the keyboard doesn't seem changed at all. The binary is for the
 qt-extended-improved I'm using..
 
 two improvements are possible:
  - give a visual feedback when toggling prediction on/off
  - well, there are three more diagonal gestures that could be used if
 you have ideas.

Hi Leonardo,

it seems prediction is still being used ... I'm a dutch speaker, and it
seems that when I enter the word van, it predicts it to
een (because that word is in my personal prediction dictionary, from
before the changes).
If prediction is off, you should disable the use of any personal
dictionaries as well, as well as disabling saving to a dictionary.

Franky

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[QtEI] GITs

2009-04-26 Thread Fabio Locati
I think that we should have a complete list of the QtEI GITs:
- http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/
- http://github.com/lpotter/qtmoko/
- http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/
- http://github.com/FilipBE/qtextended/
- http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git

If you know others, please, report here.
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Re: [QtEI] GITs

2009-04-26 Thread Fabio Locati
Forgot mine -.-
- http://github.com/Fale/qtmoko/

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think that we should have a complete list of the QtEI GITs:
 - http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/
 - http://github.com/lpotter/qtmoko/
 - http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/
 - http://github.com/FilipBE/qtextended/
 - http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git

 If you know others, please, report here.
 --
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 Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1)
 Phone: +39-328-3799681
 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com

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Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:16:28 +0200
Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:15:00 +0200
 leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote:
 
  Hi list,
  
  I've changed strategy on the unpredictive
  qtopia/qtextended/qtextendedimproved keyboard.
  Instead of patching the matchbox keyboard I've changed the original
  qtopia keyboard. I've stretched it a little to make it larger and
  higher and i made it unpredictable. I added another gesture: if you
  slide from bottom-right along the diagonal to up-left you can toggle
  prediction.
  
  here you can find the binary and the patch.
  http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/26/qtextended-keyboard-made-unpredictive/
  
  the patch is on Franky's git tree but I guess it works with any Qt*
  since the keyboard doesn't seem changed at all. The binary is for
  the qt-extended-improved I'm using..
  
  two improvements are possible:
   - give a visual feedback when toggling prediction on/off
   - well, there are three more diagonal gestures that could be used
  if you have ideas.
 
 Hi Leonardo,
 
 it seems prediction is still being used ... I'm a dutch speaker, and
 it seems that when I enter the word van, it predicts it to
 een (because that word is in my personal prediction dictionary, from
 before the changes).
 If prediction is off, you should disable the use of any personal
 dictionaries as well, as well as disabling saving to a dictionary.

never mind ...  wrong copy, ok now :-)
Although I still believe no dictionaries should be updated when in
non-predictive mode. I would also like not to have to click on a word
before being able to enter a space and continue to the next word, so
default accept would be nice as well in unpredictive mode ...
Probably KeyboardWidget::acceptWord() and OptionsWindow::acceptWord()
can benefit from you changes :-)

Franky

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Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-26 Thread Onen
Hi,

do you mean a local db, and you do not upload to an online db at all?

Onen

fredrik normann wrote:
 Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while 
 the phone will learn where it is all the time and can aply diffrent 
 settings do things according to that?
 
 -f-
 
 On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Onen onen.om http://onen.om@free.fr 
 http://free.fr wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 adding to my last comments...
 
 Onen wrote:
  
   Ok. If I understand you correctly, you would like some kind of
 anonymous
   account, where people could upload if they don't want to create an
   account? Did I understand you correctly?
  
   Well I have nothing against it, it is a good idea to me. But is
 it good
   enough regarding legal aspect? Creative commons license makes you
 have
   to put the name of contributors (and possibly link them to the
 data they
   provided, not sure about this). Is an anonymous account
 compatible with
   this? I guess, if people would upload using a same account, this
 would
   be one contributor name, and would legally be ok, isn't it?
  
 
 Another point against an open account: imagine somebody starts
 uploading garbage. Once we notice it. It could be difficult to know what
 to delete, if a lot of people are using this account. I am not very sure
 we could reliably rely on IP address to find out what should be deleted.
 
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Re: bicycling with OpenMoko

2009-04-26 Thread Chaosspawn23
ivvmm wrote:
 ivvmm wrote:
 Hey, seen many messages about audio mapping the OSM with new app called
 'Dictator' in neighbour thread and so on.

 But the first question that rises here is how to mount the phone on your
 bike?

 
 The thread has grown up with several branches, so would answer self
 post. I would like to thank you all for the suggestions and plenty of links.
 
 But there seems to be one thing against putting OpenMoko on handlebars.
 The vibrations that come from a wheel could be(and it seems it will be)
 killing for the device to drive through the forest or say off-road. It
 seems to be much safer for a device to put it in jacket or coat.

At least for me, the vibrations from a rought bike ride didn't harm the
freerunner at all. Of course you should take care it can't fall down, but that's
generally a good idea. ;)
If you keep the freerunner in a pocket, the downside is that the quality of the
gps readings goes down drastically (depends on the type of pocket, i.e. the
thickness of the material between the freerunner and the outside world) if you
don't use an external antenna. Just my experience, though...
But with a good bike mount (I use the one Daniel Willmann sugessted earlier -
the foam padding probably helps against vibrations, too) your freerunner should
be safe. :)

Regards,
Konstantin

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Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-26 Thread Onen
Hi,

regarding the settings based on location. ptitjes from SHR is working on 
an ologicd, which implements reasoning on the phone. He is interested in 
this cell location based service, as one of the inputs for his ologicd.

Onen

fredrik normann wrote:
 Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while 
 the phone will learn where it is all the time and can aply diffrent 
 settings do things according to that?
 
 -f-
 
 On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Onen onen.om http://onen.om@free.fr 
 http://free.fr wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 adding to my last comments...
 
 Onen wrote:
  
   Ok. If I understand you correctly, you would like some kind of
 anonymous
   account, where people could upload if they don't want to create an
   account? Did I understand you correctly?
  
   Well I have nothing against it, it is a good idea to me. But is
 it good
   enough regarding legal aspect? Creative commons license makes you
 have
   to put the name of contributors (and possibly link them to the
 data they
   provided, not sure about this). Is an anonymous account
 compatible with
   this? I guess, if people would upload using a same account, this
 would
   be one contributor name, and would legally be ok, isn't it?
  
 
 Another point against an open account: imagine somebody starts
 uploading garbage. Once we notice it. It could be difficult to know what
 to delete, if a lot of people are using this account. I am not very sure
 we could reliably rely on IP address to find out what should be deleted.
 
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Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-26 Thread Onen
Hi,

sorry but I am not sure to get your point.

At the moment, the clients (possibly stores the logs, for later upload) 
upload to their respective online dbs.

Jan, from the FSO team has built a proof of concept of a service on the 
phone (see FSO 5.5 beta announcement), which based on the db of raw data 
from the online site it downloads, builds a local db and propose a cell 
based location service directly on the phoone.

I don't know how (if) an update mechanism is implemented so far.

Is this what you have in mind?

Onen

fredrik normann wrote:
 And then you can have a sync scripts that syncs to what ever database 
 you like, cellhunter, openBmap
 
 -f-
 
 On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM, fredrik normann 
 fredrik.normann.j...@gmail.com mailto:fredrik.normann.j...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a
 while the phone will learn where it is all the time and can aply
 diffrent settings do things according to that?
 
 -f-
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Onen onen.om
 http://onen.om@free.fr http://free.fr wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 adding to my last comments...
 
 Onen wrote:
  
   Ok. If I understand you correctly, you would like some kind
 of anonymous
   account, where people could upload if they don't want to
 create an
   account? Did I understand you correctly?
  
   Well I have nothing against it, it is a good idea to me. But
 is it good
   enough regarding legal aspect? Creative commons license makes
 you have
   to put the name of contributors (and possibly link them to
 the data they
   provided, not sure about this). Is an anonymous account
 compatible with
   this? I guess, if people would upload using a same account,
 this would
   be one contributor name, and would legally be ok, isn't it?
  
 
 Another point against an open account: imagine somebody starts
 uploading garbage. Once we notice it. It could be difficult to
 know what
 to delete, if a lot of people are using this account. I am not
 very sure
 we could reliably rely on IP address to find out what should be
 deleted.
 
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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 9

2009-04-26 Thread Glen Ogilvie
Hi Franky,

Tried this by installing on Nand with QI, and it works pretty good.

I Used the kernel and image from: 
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5.1/om-gta02/

The link in the script to:
http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090404/
no longer works, as it looks like they have had a cleanup.

Regards
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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 9

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:02 +1200
Glen Ogilvie n...@linuxsolutions.co.nz wrote:

 Hi Franky,
 
 Tried this by installing on Nand with QI, and it works pretty good.
 
 I Used the kernel and image from: 
 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5.1/om-gta02/
 
 The link in the script to:
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090404/
 no longer works, as it looks like they have had a cleanup.
 
 Regards
 Glen Ogilvie
 

Hmmm ... I can upload the nox image from that day as well I suppose,
but I only have 50 MB of space at my local internet provider, so I'll
find a new spot to put it all on.
But now I'm on the latest kernel using SHR specifics:

from this url
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/, the
following rootfs and uImage:
uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119800+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r3.4-om-gta02.bin
openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090423-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

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Re: [QtEI] GITs

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:33:07 +0200
Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forgot mine -.-
 - http://github.com/Fale/qtmoko/
 
 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Fabio Locati
 fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:
  I think that we should have a complete list of the QtEI GITs:
  - http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/
  - http://github.com/lpotter/qtmoko/
  - http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/
  - http://github.com/FilipBE/qtextended/
  - http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git
 
  If you know others, please, report here.
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that's about it for now I guess. I hope this gets cleaned up once
2.6.28 is accepted by all :-)

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Re: [QtEI] GITs

2009-04-26 Thread Fabio Locati
why? what will happen?

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke
liede...@telenet.be wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:33:07 +0200
 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forgot mine -.-
 - http://github.com/Fale/qtmoko/

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Fabio Locati
 fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:
  I think that we should have a complete list of the QtEI GITs:
  - http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/
  - http://github.com/lpotter/qtmoko/
  - http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/
  - http://github.com/FilipBE/qtextended/
  - http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git
 
  If you know others, please, report here.
  --
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 that's about it for now I guess. I hope this gets cleaned up once
 2.6.28 is accepted by all :-)

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Re: [QtEI] GITs

2009-04-26 Thread wim . delvaux
As CVS user, is there any 'howto' about GIT ? 

Thx

W


On Sunday 26 April 2009 13:22:15 Fabio Locati wrote:
 why? what will happen?

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke

 liede...@telenet.be wrote:
  On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:33:07 +0200
 
  Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Forgot mine -.-
  - http://github.com/Fale/qtmoko/
 
  On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Fabio Locati
 
  fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:
   I think that we should have a complete list of the QtEI GITs:
   - http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/
   - http://github.com/lpotter/qtmoko/
   - http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/
   - http://github.com/FilipBE/qtextended/
   - http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git
  
   If you know others, please, report here.
   --
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  that's about it for now I guess. I hope this gets cleaned up once
  2.6.28 is accepted by all :-)
 
  Franky
 
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Re: [QtEI] GITs

2009-04-26 Thread Vincent Pomageot
Hi !

There are :
http://book.git-scm.com/

and focused on cvs = git:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/gitcvs-migration.html

Regards

Vincent Pomageot

2009/4/26 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com

 As CVS user, is there any 'howto' about GIT ?

 Thx

 W


 On Sunday 26 April 2009 13:22:15 Fabio Locati wrote:
  why? what will happen?
 
  On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke
 
  liede...@telenet.be wrote:
   On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:33:07 +0200
  
   Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:
   Forgot mine -.-
   - http://github.com/Fale/qtmoko/
  
   On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Fabio Locati
  
   fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that we should have a complete list of the QtEI GITs:
- http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/
- http://github.com/lpotter/qtmoko/
- http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/
- http://github.com/FilipBE/qtextended/
- http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git
   
If you know others, please, report here.
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   that's about it for now I guess. I hope this gets cleaned up once
   2.6.28 is accepted by all :-)
  
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Re: bicycling with OpenMoko

2009-04-26 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/4/26 ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com:
 But there seems to be one thing against putting OpenMoko on handlebars.
 The vibrations that come from a wheel could be(and it seems it will be)
 killing for the device to drive through the forest or say off-road. It
 seems to be much safer for a device to put it in jacket or coat.

i'm not convinced you're going to do too much damage - moving parts
would be the worst affected by sustained vibration

it wouldn't need much in the way of damping, say some foam padding
between the clamp and freerunner, to reduce any vibration to nearly
zero

it would be very helpful of openmoko, to release any technical docs
for the mechanical side of the phone, i.e. the acceleration values
it's designed to, so we can make a more scientific assessment of what
sort of damping it needs

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Re: [QtEI] GITs

2009-04-26 Thread Fabio Locati
I would suggest: http://www.spheredev.org/wiki/Git_for_the_lazy
is very easy :)

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Vincent Pomageot
vincent.pomag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi !

 There are :
 http://book.git-scm.com/

 and focused on cvs = git:
 http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/gitcvs-migration.html

 Regards

 Vincent Pomageot

 2009/4/26 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com

 As CVS user, is there any 'howto' about GIT ?

 Thx

 W


 On Sunday 26 April 2009 13:22:15 Fabio Locati wrote:
  why? what will happen?
 
  On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke
 
  liede...@telenet.be wrote:
   On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:33:07 +0200
  
   Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:
   Forgot mine -.-
   - http://github.com/Fale/qtmoko/
  
   On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Fabio Locati
  
   fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that we should have a complete list of the QtEI GITs:
- http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/
- http://github.com/lpotter/qtmoko/
- http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/
- http://github.com/FilipBE/qtextended/
- http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git
   
If you know others, please, report here.
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   2.6.28 is accepted by all :-)
  
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Re: [QtEI] GITs

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:42:34 +0200
Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would suggest: http://www.spheredev.org/wiki/Git_for_the_lazy
 is very easy :)

And for remote git's, doing diffs and stuff:

http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2007/09/git-binary-files-and-cherry-picking.html

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Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:36:26 +0200
Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote:

 never mind ...  wrong copy, ok now :-)
 Although I still believe no dictionaries should be updated when in
 non-predictive mode. I would also like not to have to click on a word
 before being able to enter a space and continue to the next word, so
 default accept would be nice as well in unpredictive mode ...
 Probably KeyboardWidget::acceptWord() and OptionsWindow::acceptWord()
 can benefit from you changes :-)

Hi Leonardo,

I've changed your patch a bit:

- no more dictionary updates for non-predictive keyboard
- disabled the animation for non-predictive keyboard (where the
  selected word was pulled into the correct place, it is nice but a
  bit overkill and too slow).

Please check it out, I provided a .so file here:
http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/libqpredictivekeyboard.so
For the changes:
http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/commit/f818d487e3552e9b9832a9f5942ddfc3a2330031

I've already build a new image with this (not online yet, since I'm
setting it up on a new space). A visual hint for prediciveness would be
nice, but I leave that up to you :-)

And a question: wouldn't it be more logical to add a space by default
after each word? It was like that once I believe ...
Also, the capitalization is not working that good, maybe that can be
off as well, or maybe that can be another option (left-bottom=
right-up stroke + visual confirmation).

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shr-testing- how to switch on gsm?

2009-04-26 Thread Fernando Martins
I've just flashed shr testing 22nd April and I don't get the usual pin 
code request. Also, the icons Contacts and Mofi on the desktop are 
just two blank sheets.

Under settings, the GSM antena is set off but I can't change it to on. 
The Modem information does nothing (not yet implemented?).

So, how can I start GSM, manually and on startup?

Regards,
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[SHR kernel] strange kernel messages

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Hi,

I'm getting these strange messages in the kernel (I'm running qtopia,
but these message are kernel generated ...):

Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] select 3396
(mediaserver), adj 15, size 2509, to kill
Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] select 3400
(messageserver), adj 15, size 2591, to kill
Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] select 3406
(qdsync), adj 15, size 2760, to kill
Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] select 3592
(btsettings), adj 15, size 3678, to kill
Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] send sigkill
to 3592 (btsettings), adj 15, size 3678

Does anybody know what these mean? I'm running the kernel version:
uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119800+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r3.4-om-gta02.bin
openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090423-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/

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Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable

2009-04-26 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:37:50PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote:

 i'm not entirely sure what it was, but i think it was related to some
 fiddling i did with depmod and modprobe on the phone. i'm guessing
 some usb modules weren't loaded by default

   The SHR packager forgot to run depmod before tarring up the rootfs.
Alternatively, the initscripts should run depmod on startup.

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[orrery] new version (2.6) available

2009-04-26 Thread Ken Young
If Sean is ever to begin receiving daily orders for pallets of 50,000
3G-enabled Freerunners, certain core applications must be attractive,
quickly responsive, and absolutely bullet proof.   We all know what these
applications are: Dialer, Contacts, Meteor Shower Information, SMS
Messaging and Calendar.Let's be frank - Meteor Shower Information has
long been the weak link in the Freerunner's PIM (Planet Information
Management) software suite.  This has been, I believe, one of the biggest
barriers to mainstream consumer acceptance of the phone.
Well no more.   A new version of the orrery program (version 2.6) is
available which provides several essential pieces of information about meteor
showers.   It puts YOU, the Freerunner owner, in charge of your nightly
meteor watching activities.

Version 2.6:
New user features:

   Added meteor shower information.   There
   is now a page under the opts menu which
   gives information about all meteor showers
   for the year (the year can be changed with
   the time menu, of course).   Things
   such as the dates of the showers, the
   maximum rate of meteors per hour, the
   phase of the moon for each shower's peak
   and the number of dark hours, are shown.
   Also shown is the number of dark hours
   for the next or current night.   The items
   menu allows you to specify that meteor
   radiants for currently active showers
   should be plotted on the sky display.
   The radiant position moves against the
   background stars as the shower progresses.

   Added a way to change the sky display's
   center azimuth quickly.   Now, if you
   tap the center of the pan area or press
   (long tap) anywhere in the pan area, a
   compass will appear which will allow you
   to select a new center azimuth with your
   finger or stylus.   When you release
   pressure on the screen, the display will
   be redrawn with the selected azimuth
   at the center.You can still pan in
   the old way by tapping in the panning area
   (bottom 1/5 of the screen).

Bug Fixes:

   Fixed a bug which prevented fullscreen
   mode and flashlights from working under
   SHR.

   Fixed nonstandard date display

The new version is available here:

http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/778/orrery_2.6_arm_2008.8.ipk

I thank the International Meteor Organization
(http://www.imo.net/imo/intro)
for permission to use their data to produce the meteor shower
related displays.



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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge

2009-04-26 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:16:17PM +0100, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
 Am Di  21. April 2009 schrieb Paul Fertser:
  
  drivers/power/pcf50633-charger.c:
  
  /*
  * We limit the charging current to be the USB current limit.
  * The reason is that on pcf50633, when it enters PMU Standby mode,
  * which it does when the device goes off, the USB current limit
  * reverts to the variant default.  In at least one common case, that
  * default is 500mA.  By setting the charging current to be the same
  * as the USB limit we set here before PMU standby, we enforce it only
  * using the correct amount of current even when the USB current limit
  * gets reset to the wrong thing
  */ 
 
 Whoever wrote this amazingly puzzling comment, I think he got something 
 severely wrong with operating principles of PMU PCF50633.
 Datasheet of PMU clearly states there's no situation whatever that could 
 result in batcharge current overloading the USB_CURLIM,

   The comment doesn't claim there is.

 as *allways* there 
 will be priority on serving system by providing up to 100% of usb current to 
 power it.

   Serving the system takes 0 mA in this particular case, because the device
is off.

 Bat charge will get whatever might remain after that, *up_to* the 
 charging limit programmed into PMU.

   Exactly.

 As we may charge our battery with 1C (=1200mA) it's perfectly safe to set bat 
 chg curlim to that value, and rely on PMU managing distribution of actual USB 
 supply current to system and charging according to the momentary needs.

   The problem is not that of staying under the 1200 mA permitted for the
battery. The problem is staying under the maximum USB current, which may be
as little as 100 mA.  We just can't do anything about the USB current limit
being reset to 500 mA, but we _can_ keep the charging current limited to 100
mA, which is good enough when the only consumer is the the battery charger.

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Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian

2009-04-26 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 05:49:05PM +0200, Nicola Mfb wrote:

 I will be happy to write an AMI gui but now I'm hold having problems
 with the alsa channel. Using the pcm default is not compatible with
 the default shipped /etc/asound.conf, so I just tried to use
 plughw:dnsoop and plughw:dmix, the result is that there freerunner
 does not ring on incoming call (and you cannot hear the other peer),
 while audio transmitting is perfect. Using plughw:0,0 for input/output
 works but I have stuttered audio (from freerunner to peer).

   Why are you not using hw:0,0?

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[SHR-testing] save SMS messages to text file?

2009-04-26 Thread Bram Mertens
Hi

I've succesfully flashed my GSM firmware with the provided uSD image
so now I'm able to use my FreeRunner as a phone.

My old phone has several SMS messages stored in it's internal memory
and allowed receiving messages to this memory even though the space on
the SIM for storing SMS messages is full.

Now off course only those messages on the SIM card are available on
the FreeRunner and the messages application immediately complained
that there is no space for new messages.  Doesn't the FreeRunner allow
storing SMS messages other than on the SIM?

And in any case: is there a way to extract or backup SMS messages to
a clear text file?  I couldn't find anyhting on the wiki about this.

Regards

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Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread leona...@lilik.it
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:36:26 +0200
 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote:
 

Hi Franky,

 never mind ...  wrong copy, ok now :-)
 Although I still believe no dictionaries should be updated when in
 non-predictive mode. I would also like not to have to click on a word
 before being able to enter a space and continue to the next word, so
 default accept would be nice as well in unpredictive mode ...

I didn't have time to check your patch. Anyway you cannot avoid a way to
accept a word. If you slide right, you put a whitespace, if you click
on the bar you accept the word and you have a free whitespace. I've
noticed also that while you wait for the animation to end, you can type
new letters, so you don't waste time.

 Probably KeyboardWidget::acceptWord() and OptionsWindow::acceptWord()
 can benefit from you changes :-)
 
 - no more dictionary updates for non-predictive keyboard
 - disabled the animation for non-predictive keyboard (where the
   selected word was pulled into the correct place, it is nice but a
   bit overkill and too slow).

that's better!

 
 Please check it out, I provided a .so file here:
 http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/libqpredictivekeyboard.so

thanks, the university server seems to be lazy today. tomorrow I hope it
will be fixed.

 For the changes:
 http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/commit/f818d487e3552e9b9832a9f5942ddfc3a2330031
 
 I've already build a new image with this (not online yet, since I'm
 setting it up on a new space). A visual hint for prediciveness would be
 nice, but I leave that up to you :-)

I've checked it quickly, it doesn't seem really easy, I should get more
ocnfident with Qt. I hope I will have time to make it visible.
Is it better something like a p on a corner or a very short popup
saying unpredictive?

 
 And a question: wouldn't it be more logical to add a space by default
 after each word? It was like that once I believe ...

that's what it does. When you  accept the word you have a whitespace added.

 Also, the capitalization is not working that good, maybe that can be
 off as well, or maybe that can be another option (left-bottom=
 right-up stroke + visual confirmation).

capitalization doesn't work really ok. Well, it just doesn't work actually.

Something I've noticed that could be improved is that if you type a
single letter and you want to accept it it's quite hard to touch with
your finger the letter, since it's quite little. I guess this is
inherited from the predictive keyboard. It would be better to make the
whole bar reactive instead of the single letter.

ciao,
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[all] Car charger

2009-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
David,

You have a car charger in your shop:

http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=44

Does this have the appropriate resistor to allow the FR to
automatically select a higher charging rate?

Regards

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Re: [SHR-testing] save SMS messages to text file?

2009-04-26 Thread Johny Tenfinger
We (SHR) started to work on opimd, instead of waiting to it, so stay tuned -
we already have almost working contacts-on-somewhere-else-than-SIM (actually
selectable: CVS or SQLite) implementation. After that we will focus on
messages :)
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Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:22:52 +0200
leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote:

 I didn't have time to check your patch. Anyway you cannot avoid a way
 to accept a word. If you slide right, you put a whitespace, if you
 click on the bar you accept the word and you have a free whitespace.
 I've noticed also that while you wait for the animation to end, you
 can type new letters, so you don't waste time.

Hmmm ... I didn't notice that before, and it works :-)

snip
  
  I've already build a new image with this (not online yet, since I'm
  setting it up on a new space). A visual hint for prediciveness
  would be nice, but I leave that up to you :-)
 
 I've checked it quickly, it doesn't seem really easy, I should get
 more ocnfident with Qt. I hope I will have time to make it visible.
 Is it better something like a p on a corner or a very short popup
 saying unpredictive?

well, I prefer something visible all the time, since the keyboard
maintains it's state across usage
 
  And a question: wouldn't it be more logical to add a space by
  default after each word? It was like that once I believe ...
 
 that's what it does. When you  accept the word you have a whitespace
 added.

I know now :-)
 
  Also, the capitalization is not working that good, maybe that can be
  off as well, or maybe that can be another option (left-bottom=
  right-up stroke + visual confirmation).
 
 capitalization doesn't work really ok. Well, it just doesn't work
 actually.

Well, it works, but it takes the first word you type as beginning of a
sentence (and thus capitalizes it), even if you correct a sentence and
restart in the middle ...
 
 Something I've noticed that could be improved is that if you type a
 single letter and you want to accept it it's quite hard to touch with
 your finger the letter, since it's quite little. I guess this is
 inherited from the predictive keyboard. It would be better to make the
 whole bar reactive instead of the single letter.

true, but sliding to the right accepts the word as well ...

Franky

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Re: [all] Car charger

2009-04-26 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 26 April 2009, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
 David,

 You have a car charger in your shop:

 http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=44

 Does this have the appropriate resistor to allow the FR to
 automatically select a higher charging rate?

Since it talks about plugging a USB cable into it it can't have the resistor 
as there's no pin on that end of the cable for it to connect to. You would 
need a charger with a captive lead and mini-b plug like the mains charger has 
for it to include the resistor.

On the DIY front mini-b plugs with all pins available are hard to find in 
small quantities, in the UK at least. Has anyone found a source?


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Re: [SHR-testing] save SMS messages to text file?

2009-04-26 Thread ivvmm
Johny Tenfinger wrote:
 We (SHR) started to work on opimd, instead of waiting to it, so stay
 tuned - we already have almost working
 contacts-on-somewhere-else-than-SIM (actually selectable: CVS or SQLite)
 implementation. After that we will focus on messages :)
 

Am I right if I say that you are helping the FSO team when you say that
you are writing the opimd?



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Re: shr-testing- how to switch on gsm?

2009-04-26 Thread ivvmm
Fernando Martins wrote:
 I've just flashed shr testing 22nd April and I don't get the usual pin 
 code request. Also, the icons Contacts and Mofi on the desktop are 
 just two blank sheets.
 
 Under settings, the GSM antena is set off but I can't change it to on. 
 The Modem information does nothing (not yet implemented?).
 
 So, how can I start GSM, manually and on startup?
 
 Regards,
 Fernando
 

Something goes wrong. It should have started automatically. What image
did you flash exactly?




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Re: [SHR-testing] save SMS messages to text file?

2009-04-26 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 21:19, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am I right if I say that you are helping the FSO team when you say that
 you are writing the opimd?


Yes. Look at opimd commits:
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=summary
I am Sebastian Krzyszkowiak :)
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Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:15:07 +0200
Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:36:26 +0200
 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote:
 
  never mind ...  wrong copy, ok now :-)
  Although I still believe no dictionaries should be updated when in
  non-predictive mode. I would also like not to have to click on a
  word before being able to enter a space and continue to the next
  word, so default accept would be nice as well in unpredictive
  mode ... Probably KeyboardWidget::acceptWord() and
  OptionsWindow::acceptWord() can benefit from you changes :-)
 
 Hi Leonardo,
 
 I've changed your patch a bit:
 
 - no more dictionary updates for non-predictive keyboard
 - disabled the animation for non-predictive keyboard (where the
   selected word was pulled into the correct place, it is nice but a
   bit overkill and too slow).
 
 Please check it out, I provided a .so file here:
 http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/libqpredictivekeyboard.so
 For the changes:
 http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/commit/f818d487e3552e9b9832a9f5942ddfc3a2330031
 
 I've already build a new image with this (not online yet, since I'm
 setting it up on a new space). A visual hint for prediciveness would
 be nice, but I leave that up to you :-)

btw, I also added code for a backspace key. I *know* that you can slide
to the left for backspace, but if you want to delete an entire
sentence (or just 10 letters), this becomes ridiculous. Therefore: the
backspace key is to be found in the same group as the return key.
I've updated the current image with it.
Now just some buttons to quickly go from letters to ciphers and to the
sentence-characters (.,?, etc...). Instead of always needing to
slide up and down ... There's place for at least 3 extra signs on the
letters screen, I would use them for uppercase (and in the uppercase
version: lowercase), numbers and sentence-characters. This would
work more reliable and quicker than the basic sliding ...

Franky

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Re: [SHR-testing] save SMS messages to text file?

2009-04-26 Thread arne anka
 And in any case: is there a way to extract or backup SMS messages to
 a clear text file?  I couldn't find anyhting on the wiki about this.

if you need a short-term solution, you should be able to fetch your sms  
via mdbus and the appropriate fso-framework methods.
that should allow you, to fetch the sms, in a second step save to file and  
afterwards freein space on your sim.

if you know python, have a look at zhone how the sms are fetched and write  
your own script.

can't test right now, since i  backing up my device in anticipation of the  
buzz fix party come weekend ...

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[debian] new navit

2009-04-26 Thread arne anka
to whom it may concern ...
i just created a new debian package of navit  
(navit_0.1.0+svn-2234_armel.deb) and uploaded it to
 http://www.ginguppin.de/node/26

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[all] wiki: eclipe + qt4

2009-04-26 Thread arne anka
i just stumbled about the wiki entry regarding eclipse and qt4 and are a  
bit puzzled about the troublesome configuration:
there's actually a very nice qt-plugin for eclipse, created by trolltech  
itself!

http://www.qtsoftware.com/developer/eclipse-integration

works nice, i need to check the cross compiling setup, but normal  
development (incl running qmake and uic automatically) just works.
maybe someone with wiki write access can update the page?

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[QtEI] LODI file

2009-04-26 Thread Fabio Locati
Is these 800 and some Kb really useful? It seems not updated and,
maybe, not useful... what do you think about this file?

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Re: [debian] new navit

2009-04-26 Thread Marcel
Am Sonntag, 26. April 2009 21:39:11 schrieb arne anka:
 to whom it may concern ...
 i just created a new debian package of navit
 (navit_0.1.0+svn-2234_armel.deb) and uploaded it to

  http://www.ginguppin.de/node/26

Nice! Going to install it, but I'll see if I find time to try it. *g*

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Re: [all] Car charger

2009-04-26 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/4/26 Jeffrey Ratcliffe jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com:
 David,

 You have a car charger in your shop:

 http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=44

 Does this have the appropriate resistor to allow the FR to
 automatically select a higher charging rate?

As far as I know it only provides 500mA, as a normal desktop computer will do.

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Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread leona...@lilik.it
 I've already build a new image with this (not online yet, since I'm
 setting it up on a new space). A visual hint for prediciveness would
 be nice, but I leave that up to you :-)
 
 btw, I also added code for a backspace key. I *know* that you can slide
 to the left for backspace, but if you want to delete an entire
 sentence (or just 10 letters), this becomes ridiculous. Therefore: the
 backspace key is to be found in the same group as the return key.
 I've updated the current image with it.

you can select the text you want to cancel and leftslide, but it's very
unconfortable.

 Now just some buttons to quickly go from letters to ciphers and to the
 sentence-characters (.,?, etc...). Instead of always needing to
 slide up and down ... There's place for at least 3 extra signs on the
 letters screen, I would use them for uppercase (and in the uppercase
 version: lowercase), numbers and sentence-characters. This would
 work more reliable and quicker than the basic sliding ...

we could use the other three diagonals. I think it's better then filling
the keyboard with more buttons, or it will end up like matchbox keyboard.

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Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.

2009-04-26 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Xoves, 23 de Abril de 2009, Tomas Riveros Schober escribiu:
 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann escribió:
  Am Donnerstag 23 April 2009 16:05:43 schrieb Daniel.Li:
  On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 15:47 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote:


 Well, latest SHR testing does not have Illume SHR listed as a theme
 anymore (20090422-om-gta02)

Is that a bug or a feature?

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Re: [SHR kernel] strange kernel messages

2009-04-26 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be writes:
 Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] send sigkill
 to 3592 (btsettings), adj 15, size 3678

You are running out of memory and linux is killing processes.


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Re: [debian] new navit

2009-04-26 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes:
 to whom it may concern ...
 i just created a new debian package of navit  
 (navit_0.1.0+svn-2234_armel.deb) and uploaded it to
 http://www.ginguppin.de/node/26

Is the debian source package also available somewhere?

http://navit.latouche.info/debian/sid/navit_0.1.0+svn-2234.diff.gz

does

./configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) 
--prefix=/usr --mandir=\$${prefix}/share/man --infodir=\$${prefix}/share/info 
CFLAGS=-g -O --disable-samplemap

but you mention using

--enable-avoid-float --disable-garmin --disable-samplemap --disable-postgresql 
--disable-graphics-opengl --disable-graphics-win32 --disable-gui-win32 
--disable-vehicle-demo --disable-vehicle-wince

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RE: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread Roland
Hello Leonardo and Franky,

I haven't tried out your changes yet but they sound very useful. I would
also prefer the three switching buttons suggested by Franky. I think when
putting them e.g. at the far right, they wouldn't really fill up the space
too much or make the other keys too small.

Another idea: Wouldn't it be possible to toggle the predictability of the
keyboard through an option in the context (options) menu? By putting a
checkmark in front you would also have a visual information about the state.
I think this should be possible because when changing to the undocked
keyboard the option Change input Method changes into a submenu.

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Re: [SHR kernel] strange kernel messages

2009-04-26 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Domingo, 26 de Abril de 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribiu:
 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be writes:
  Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] send sigkill
  to 3592 (btsettings), adj 15, size 3678

 You are running out of memory and linux is killing processes.

You can configure swap on SD card. It's not the fastest in the world, but it 
works :)


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[QtEI] Translation suggestion

2009-04-26 Thread Fabio Locati
I have looked around and it seems that QtEI should be translated with
Qt Linguistic. Is this the best tool?

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Re: [SHR kernel] strange kernel messages

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:29:28 +0300
Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:

 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be writes:
  Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] send
  sigkill to 3592 (btsettings), adj 15, size 3678
 
 You are running out of memory and linux is killing processes.
 

huh??? Almost nothing is running, and I never experienced this before.
I *know* I can configure swap, but I don't want to do that, it would
dramatically decrease performance if the phone starts swapping ...
Weird though: this started after using SHR as base system for qtopia,
instead of fso. Is this a coincidence, or is the kernel really that
different? I also switched from the kernel of April 4th to April 23th.
This is interesting to follow up ...

Franky

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Re: [QtEI] LODI file

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:54:31 +0200
Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is these 800 and some Kb really useful? It seems not updated and,
 maybe, not useful... what do you think about this file?
 

dunno, never cared about that LODI file :-)

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Re: [QtEI] Translation suggestion

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:14:05 +0200
Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have looked around and it seems that QtEI should be translated with
 Qt Linguistic. Is this the best tool?
 

I don't know the tool, but I do believe there's much work to be done
here: many classes still use tr while I believe every class should
use qApp-translate for translations.
Thoughts, suggestions?

Franky

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Openmoko kernels

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
To the people who maintain the script for daily kernel builds in
unstable/experimental at
http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/
and
http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/daily/om-gta02/

Please, check your script: the generated images are useless, because
the usb0 interface on the phone is not activated. And this has nothing
to do with usb0=ethX interface change on the host. It seems some
depmod's are forgotten, but eg. for the nox image it is impossible to
change anything about that (no X on the phone).
Therefore: please change your script (and test it) before bringing out
new images ...

Franky

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Re: shr-testing- how to switch on gsm?

2009-04-26 Thread Fernando Martins
ivvmm wrote:
 Fernando Martins wrote:
   
 I've just flashed shr testing 22nd April and I don't get the usual pin 
 code request. Also, the icons Contacts and Mofi on the desktop are 
 just two blank sheets.
 

 Something goes wrong. It should have started automatically. What image
 did you flash exactly?

   

I'm not sure  what else can I tell you, from 
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/

uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin dated 22-04-2009
shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 dated 22-04-2009

The first time shr booted, it asked for some settings. There was a part 
on quick starting some apps, which I dismissed and now I wonder if I 
overlooked GMS startup.

Later on, when I looked at the phone again, there was a dialog box 
stating that ophonekit was not started with an option to start, which I 
did, but nothing happened (no pin code request).

I didn't get any error during flashing, but I don't know if dfu-util 
does indeed verify the image.

Regards,
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Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-26 Thread fredrik normann
Understand that things are moving in the same direction :) but I still think
a local db of the data you have collected yourself is a good idea :)

I am playing with some code my self now, trying to make something.

-f-

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi,

 regarding the settings based on location. ptitjes from SHR is working on
 an ologicd, which implements reasoning on the phone. He is interested in
 this cell location based service, as one of the inputs for his ologicd.

 Onen

 fredrik normann wrote:
  Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while
  the phone will learn where it is all the time and can aply diffrent
  settings do things according to that?
 
  -f-
 
  On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Onen onen.om http://onen.om@free.fr
  http://free.fr wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  adding to my last comments...
 
  Onen wrote:
   
Ok. If I understand you correctly, you would like some kind of
  anonymous
account, where people could upload if they don't want to create an
account? Did I understand you correctly?
   
Well I have nothing against it, it is a good idea to me. But is
  it good
enough regarding legal aspect? Creative commons license makes you
  have
to put the name of contributors (and possibly link them to the
  data they
provided, not sure about this). Is an anonymous account
  compatible with
this? I guess, if people would upload using a same account, this
  would
be one contributor name, and would legally be ok, isn't it?
   
 
  Another point against an open account: imagine somebody starts
  uploading garbage. Once we notice it. It could be difficult to know
 what
  to delete, if a lot of people are using this account. I am not very
 sure
  we could reliably rely on IP address to find out what should be
 deleted.
 
  Onen
 
 
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Re: [SHR kernel] strange kernel messages

2009-04-26 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:28:29 +0200
Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote:

 Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] select 3396
 (mediaserver), adj 15, size 2509, to kill
 Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] select 3400
 (messageserver), adj 15, size 2591, to kill
 Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] select 3406
 (qdsync), adj 15, size 2760, to kill
 Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] select 3592
 (btsettings), adj 15, size 3678, to kill
 Apr 26 17:21:48 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [25301.345000] send sigkill
 to 3592 (btsettings), adj 15, size 3678
 
 Does anybody know what these mean? I'm running the kernel version:
 uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119800+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r3.4-om-gta02.bin
 openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090423-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/
 
 Franky

well, it got worse: using this kernel, all of the sudden (after 2 hours
of suspend), the phone wouldn't come back to life anymore. Only
battery removal worked ... not good ... so not a good kernel at all.
I'll stick with basic fso kernels after all ... the one from April 4th
never behaved like this.

Franky

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Re: [all e/illume based] copy/paste

2009-04-26 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Petr Vanek wrote:
 hi,
 
 has copy/paste been discussed and some solution exist? I tried to
 search through the wiki but no luck. selecting and copying text, then
 pasting in applications doesn't seem to be really possible. The minimal
 typical scenarios would probably be from sms/email to another sms/email
 or web browser and vice-versa. Any ideas?

Recent versions of Elementary include a support for easy copy/paste
actions. I think it's a good example that could be ported also to other
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request: friq

2009-04-26 Thread Jesus McCloud
HiHo.
i am sure soe of you know this game. the original version is called 
gimme friction baby.
but there is also a gp2x and a zaurus port available called friq, so i 
think it might not be that difficult do port it to openmoko.
i think this would be a great game to have (there is also an android 
version avalable, but i don't think that this is of any help, since it 
is a totally different system)

friq: http://www.users.waitrose.com/~thunor//friq/index.html (including 
source for the zaurus version)
gimme friction baby http://www.addictinggames.com/gimmefrictionbaby.html 
(for those of you who don't know it)

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Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-26 Thread leona...@lilik.it
Roland wrote:
 Hello Leonardo and Franky,
 
 I haven't tried out your changes yet but they sound very useful. I would
 also prefer the three switching buttons suggested by Franky. I think when
 putting them e.g. at the far right, they wouldn't really fill up the space
 too much or make the other keys too small.

if you try the patch you'll notice the keyboard is quite larger now...

 Another idea: Wouldn't it be possible to toggle the predictability of the
 keyboard through an option in the context (options) menu? By putting a
 checkmark in front you would also have a visual information about the state.
 I think this should be possible because when changing to the undocked
 keyboard the option Change input Method changes into a submenu.

That was my first attempt, but it seems that that menu has nothing to
deal with the keyboard itself. It just sends basic signals like
create/destroy to the widget and sets up the next one.
Anyway, toggling/untoggling predictability is not something you do that
often I guess, and it works ok with the diagonal slide.

I'm having harder time in showing some graphics on the keyboard to have
a feedback from that action.

ciao,
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Re: [SHR-testing] save SMS messages to text file?

2009-04-26 Thread Daniel.Li
I don't know about current status. But it seems impossible, if u are
using openmoko-message, see below
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2619250 

On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 20:13 +0200, Bram Mertens wrote:
 Hi
 
 I've succesfully flashed my GSM firmware with the provided uSD image
 so now I'm able to use my FreeRunner as a phone.
 
 My old phone has several SMS messages stored in it's internal memory
 and allowed receiving messages to this memory even though the space on
 the SIM for storing SMS messages is full.
 
 Now off course only those messages on the SIM card are available on
 the FreeRunner and the messages application immediately complained
 that there is no space for new messages.  Doesn't the FreeRunner allow
 storing SMS messages other than on the SIM?
 
 And in any case: is there a way to extract or backup SMS messages to
 a clear text file?  I couldn't find anyhting on the wiki about this.
 
 Regards
 
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Re: shr-testing- how to switch on gsm?

2009-04-26 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/4/27 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl:
 I'm not sure  what else can I tell you, from
 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/

 uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin dated 22-04-2009
 shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 dated 22-04-2009

 The first time shr booted, it asked for some settings. There was a part
 on quick starting some apps, which I dismissed and now I wonder if I
 overlooked GMS startup.

 Later on, when I looked at the phone again, there was a dialog box
 stating that ophonekit was not started with an option to start, which I
 did, but nothing happened (no pin code request).

yeah, i'm getting exactly this error also. i later found out my sim
had been borked by the messages app in 2008.12, but trying it with a
friend's sim (which worked fine in his motorola and qte phone) i had
the same response

the gsm switch keeps going back to off also, even with a working sim

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Re: Navit skins...

2009-04-26 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 D. Gassen wrote:
 Am 06.04.2009 um 02:49 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño):

 Hello, some days ago I saw this nice skin for Navit [1] on scap.
 Please, could the author share it? :P

 Anyway, how can these skins be written?
 Maybe you want to check out [1], [2] and [3].
 
 Thanks after few searches I found that too :P

I've finally modified the OSD skin to improve the usability (from my
point of view). You can find it here [4].

 And... How can be enabled the 3d-view? Should I change something in my
 navit.xml to get it working with latest svn version?
 On [1] they mention a cegui (not supported anymore) that can be  
 started in 3D mode by specifying:
 
 Well, it should work also in the gtk view using a svn version of navit
 (check also its wiki homepage), but it doesn't to me. :(

I've just found that to use the 3d-mode with the gtk interface I have to
set manually the pitch by using the w and x key of the keyboard
(rotation with a and d).

Maybe should be added a pre-set 3d view in the Display menu too.

[4]
http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD#Freerunner_version_by_Trevi.C3.B1o

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Re: [all e/illume based] copy/paste

2009-04-26 Thread Charles Clément

In X you just have to make a selection to copy the text most of the
time, so if a toolkit/application let you select the text you might be
able to copy it. With qwo there is a gesture to paste such text ; from
region 4 to 6. It is based on a shortcut that in X, pressing Shift +
Insert will paste the clipboard.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:38:20AM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 Petr Vanek wrote:
  hi,
  
  has copy/paste been discussed and some solution exist? I tried to
  search through the wiki but no luck. selecting and copying text, then
  pasting in applications doesn't seem to be really possible. The minimal
  typical scenarios would probably be from sms/email to another sms/email
  or web browser and vice-versa. Any ideas?
 
 Recent versions of Elementary include a support for easy copy/paste
 actions. I think it's a good example that could be ported also to other
 toolkits (wich mostly need patches, BTW).
 
 
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Re: [SHR-testing] save SMS messages to text file?

2009-04-26 Thread David Ford
this is what i use to dump the messages from my sim card to a text 
file.  then i delete the messages on the sim card so i have room for new 
messages.

a limit of 30 messages is entirely impractical.  that gets filled up 
before noon arrives unless i constantly delete messages.

r...@nibbly-bits:~# cat backup_messages.sh
#!/bin/sh
d=$(date +%Y.%m.%d-%H%M)
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device 
org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessagebook 'all'  messages-$d.txt


On 04/26/09 19:06, Daniel.Li wrote:
 I don't know about current status. But it seems impossible, if u are
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 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2619250

 On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 20:13 +0200, Bram Mertens wrote:

 Hi

 I've succesfully flashed my GSM firmware with the provided uSD image
 so now I'm able to use my FreeRunner as a phone.

 My old phone has several SMS messages stored in it's internal memory
 and allowed receiving messages to this memory even though the space on
 the SIM for storing SMS messages is full.

 Now off course only those messages on the SIM card are available on
 the FreeRunner and the messages application immediately complained
 that there is no space for new messages.  Doesn't the FreeRunner allow
 storing SMS messages other than on the SIM?

 And in any case: is there a way to extract or backup SMS messages to
 a clear text file?  I couldn't find anyhting on the wiki about this.

 Regards

 Bram

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[shr-testing] minor error on opkg upgrade

2009-04-26 Thread Robin Paulson
for the last few days now, whenever i do opkg upgrade, i get:

Package shr-theme is already installed in root.

i've tried -force-reinstall, it still does it

it's not hugely important, but why is this happening, and how can i stop it?

cheers

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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-04-26 Thread c_c

Hi,
 The openmoko feeds have changed some library names to something like
libecore_evas-ver-pre-01.so.0. And now programs compiled here don't run on
any other distribution.
  Will need more time to come up with a release. I'm pretty much done adding
dbus support and have altered the finger size to hopefully better
propotions.
  Will release soon.




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Re: [all e/illume based] copy/paste

2009-04-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:38:20 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net
said:

 Petr Vanek wrote:
  hi,
  
  has copy/paste been discussed and some solution exist? I tried to
  search through the wiki but no luck. selecting and copying text, then
  pasting in applications doesn't seem to be really possible. The minimal
  typical scenarios would probably be from sms/email to another sms/email
  or web browser and vice-versa. Any ideas?
 
 Recent versions of Elementary include a support for easy copy/paste
 actions. I think it's a good example that could be ported also to other
 toolkits (wich mostly need patches, BTW).

yes. just hold down your finger for a second and presto.. menu (you can paste
or begin selecting things). the selection is malleable ie the first time when
there is no selection you define it with a drag. but after that pressing near
the beginning or end of the selection allows you to adjust it to get it right.
press and hold again for menu to copy or cut or cancel. cancel just
clears the selection and does nothing. copy and cut put that selection in the
copy buffer, and going anywhere else to paste will paste it.

so it's there in elementary -= handling copy/paste with fingers on a
touchscreen. but other toolkits will have a .. harder time.

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Re: [QtEI] LODI file

2009-04-26 Thread Lorn Potter
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:54:31 +0200
 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is these 800 and some Kb really useful? It seems not updated and,
 maybe, not useful... what do you think about this file?

 
 dunno, never cared about that LODI file :-)

LODI stands for List Of Deliverable Items, which is a list of all the files in 
the package.

It was used by the trolltech release manager. It's safe to remove.

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