Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-04 Thread Paul
matthias wrote:
 The SC019 seems the best choice to me: Rugged metal casing sounds
 really great.
 But the Sc021 is good as well, if getting them depends on a group-order.
   

I could live with the SC019 as well. I hope someone's keeping a 
scorelist. :-)

Paul


 Adrian Matter schrieb:
   
 Hello,

 I'm interested as well in anThe SC021.

 Adrian

 those are pritty awesome
 
 Definitely! I wonder what one of those would cost including shipping to 
 the Netherlands. The SC021 looks like a sweet deal.

 Paul
   

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Re: Network Management

2009-05-04 Thread kimaidou
@ Yozig : I partially agree with you, but...hey ! The best would be to share
your little scripts for people who cannot understand scripts (or english)
easily enough to make a proper one
:D
I know the wiki has a lot of information, but it is hard to understand all
the things (especially for networking). For example, I can just dummly
copy/paste the scripts, but I understand nothing about netmasks, masquerade
and everything. I know we can learn, but some guys have less time ans
learning skills than others

Cheers

Kimaidou

2009/5/4 Yogiz yog...@gmail.com

 On Sun, 3 May 2009 14:12:23 -0700
 Rodney D. Myers rod_my...@fastmail.fm wrote:

  On May 3, 2009, at 1:55 PM, roby wrote:
 
   On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM, RodM rdmyers...@gmail.com wrote:
   Once that happens, I will bring my OM out of the box, and start
   utilizing it
   again.
   you won't know when that happens, leaving it in the box...
  
   -- just joking, no flame --
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  Which is fine as well.

 What do you want plug-and played? Usb connection? Wifi? GPRS? It all
 seems like simple scripting when using the framework. I mostly only use
 Wifi and it wasn't too hard to make a shortcut on the desktop that
 turns on wifi and connects to preferred AP, if one doesn't exist then a
 free AP with the best connection quality and if that does not exist,
 flash the led so I know no APs are available. I'm not sure it could be
 made any more easier so with what exactly are you having problems with?

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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge

2009-05-04 Thread Cédric Berger
Sorry, my mail was not really clear.

Rask already answered questions.
But just about usb_limit :

2009/5/2 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org

 No you have to push USB_CURLIM to 500mA, if you want 500mA.

[... ]

  This way I have about 700-750mA pulled from my charger (though it can
 peak
  to 1A as needed).
 What's the rationale behind that?
 If you set USB_CURLIM to 750mA you get exactly the same behaviour without
 the
 useless when needed part.


As far as I know, 750mA is not an option for usb_curlim. (only 100, 500 and
1000 I think)
Anyway, bat_curlim allows more precise control.
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Re: Will my phone buzz?

2009-05-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh

Johny Tenfinger wrote:

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:47, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
  

If it says 0305 you have V5 and need a fix.



You're wrong. GTA02A5 and GTA02A6 don't differ regarding buzz. Now
only A7 and A8 differs.
  

Assuming I need the fix, where do I get the right capacitor?

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11

2009-05-04 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM, giacomo giotti mariani
giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote:
 Ciao,
 your work is great, as always.
 I'd like to ask to all of you involved in QtEI development: what do you
 think about something like a stable QtEI.tar.gz+kernel ready  for the
 FLASH (and/or SD card) memory?

sure, when you can find me a stable and working kernel :-)
For now I'm still on a kernel from April 4th, all newer kernels seem
to have some kind of issue (not unsuspending correctly ater some time,
WSOD, no wifi, ...) so for now I'm on an unstable kernel that is much
more stable than newer kernels :-)

But seriously, some issues still remain to be fixed before we can
release a stable QtE version:

* contact management:
  - I don't like it when SIM contacts get merged invisible, so I want
SIM contact import to be optional (and maybe also a SIM export should
exist as option)
  - the building of the contact list is slow (because of too many SQL
statements)
* bluetooth: 2.6.28 kernels like bluez4, QtE doesn't ...
* keyboard: now that the keyboard prediction can be turned off, it is
already much more usable, but still needs a lot of dragging
left/right/up/down to make a real sentence with punctuation and
stuff. So some extra buttons and rearranging of existing ones would be
nice ...

I'm still calling for help in any and all of these matters ...

Franky

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11

2009-05-04 Thread giacomo giotti mariani
Ciao,
your work is great, as always.
I'd like to ask to all of you involved in QtEI development: what do you
think about something like a stable QtEI.tar.gz+kernel ready  for the
FLASH (and/or SD card) memory?

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Re: [SHR-unstable]Blinking AUX button LED

2009-05-04 Thread Davide Scaini
i reflashed u-boot and kernel, now i can boot, but the new kernel is
affected of this strange bug of no wifi anymore... do you have any idea
where i can find the old shr 2.6.28? thanks (i mainly use the fr as a
net-pocketPc).
d

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
r...@sygehus.dkwrote:

 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 04:26:30PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
  Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes:
   Possible errors that lead to that situation:
   - bad rootfs kernel parameters in u-boot environment; - check if you
 need to change them;
 
  This can't surely cause missing filesystem support?

It can if you no longer have the correct mtdparts option.

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Re: PISI 0.2 released

2009-05-04 Thread Michael Pilgermann

 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Sun, 3 May 2009 13:09:11 +0200
 Von: Richy klemms...@gmail.com
 An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 Betreff: Re: PISI 0.2 released

 I tried this on shr-testing but I get:
 
 r...@om-gta02 ~/.pisi $ pisigui
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /bin/pisigui, line 31, in module
  import pisi
File /opt/pisi/pisi.py, line 31, in module
  from events import events,  eventsSync
File /opt/pisi/events/events.py, line 22, in module
  import vobject
  ImportError: No module named vobject
 
 
  Maybe this is python-2.6 related?
Absolutely. The packages I assembled for vobject (you used the one from 
opkg.org?) have static links to the python 2.5 site-package folder inside. For 
testing purposes you might move them (under /usr/lib/python ...); I have to 
sort this out by assembling the dependend packages properly.

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Re: Network Management

2009-05-04 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 09:57, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote:
 For example, I can just dummly
 copy/paste the scripts, but I understand nothing about netmasks, masquerade
 and everything.

I wrote WiFi manager for SHR without any special knowledge about
netmasks, masquerade and everything :P It is in shr-settings
playground directory and it uses connman. Nothing difficult, trust me
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Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-04 Thread Daniel.Li
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 08:42 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote:
 :) Humm... I think I'd better let them to make a bid for small
 quantity. :D



YL-S03
High solar energy convert efficiency: over than 16% 
Solar energy board: 5.5V/80mA 
Dimension: 95×43×11.5mm 
High capacity build in battery: 1350mAH/3.7V \
Output voltage: DC 5.5±0.2V
Input voltage: DC 5.0-5.5V 
Output current: 700mA max
Input current: 800mA max 
Weight: about 55g 
charging time: about 3.5 hours (by computer)   
   about 15-20hours(by sunlight)  
Running time: about 1.1hours (discharging in max.700mA)


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Re: little today app for shr

2009-05-04 Thread KaZeR



The Digital Pioneer wrote:
 
 Yeah, I was afraid that would be the case. No matter, when I reject a
 call,
 it's easy enough to close the missed call message. If you ever find a way
 to
 do it, though, perhaps a config option is in order.
 


Maybe it's worth asking FSO for a different event?
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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11

2009-05-04 Thread leonardo
Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto:
  * contact management:
   - I don't like it when SIM contacts get merged invisible, so I want
 SIM contact import to be optional (and maybe also a SIM export should
 exist as option)
   - the building of the contact list is slow (because of too many SQL
 statements)
 * bluetooth: 2.6.28 kernels like bluez4, QtE doesn't ...
 * keyboard: now that the keyboard prediction can be turned off, it is
 already much more usable, but still needs a lot of dragging
 left/right/up/down to make a real sentence with punctuation and
 stuff. So some extra buttons and rearranging of existing ones would be
 nice ...

Moro Franky,
there is another issue that drives me crazy sometimes. If you have two
numbers for the same person and you want to send an SMS you have to
choose the person from the contact list before you write the SMS. Else,
when you chose the person from the list it automatically gets chosen the
first one (which in general is the home number...). It is really
annoying because you write the whole SMS and then you throw it away
because you can't choose the number.

This is a regression from Qtopia where it was possible to choose among
the addresses.

It's in my to-do list after the visual feedback on the keyboard.

ciao,
leonardo.


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Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-04 Thread Daniel.Li
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:32 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 08:42 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote:
  :) Humm... I think I'd better let them to make a bid for small
  quantity. :D
 

Sorry, I slipped. 

latest news from factory.

YL-S01: 26.47 USD
YL-S02: 20.59 USD
YL-S03: 10.00 USD


YL-S01
High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon convert 
efficiency is over than 16%
Solar energy board:DC5.0V/300mA
Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery: 2400mAh/3.7V
Input Voltage:DC5.0V-5.5V
Input current: 800mA Max.
Output Voltage: 5.5V,8.4V 
Output current: 700mA Max.
Dimension: 138 mm×79mm×25 mm
Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W 
charging time: about 6hours (by computer)
   about 8-12hours(by sunlight)
Running time: about 2hours (discharging in 700mA)

YL-S02
High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon convert 
efficiency is over than 16%
Solar energy board:DC5.0V/300mA
Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery:1800mAh/3.7V
Input Voltage:DC5.0V-5.5V
Input current: 800mA Max.
Output Voltage:DC5.5V±0.2V(unload)
Output current: 700mA Max.
Dimension:138 mm×79mm×25 mm
Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W 
charging time: about 4.5 hours (by computer)
  about 6-10hours(by sunlight)
Running time: about1.6hours (discharging in 700mA)

YL-S03
High solar energy convert efficiency: over than 16% 
Solar energy board: 5.5V/80mA 
Dimension: 95×43×11.5mm 
High capacity build in battery: 1350mAH/3.7V \
Output voltage: DC 5.5±0.2V
Input voltage: DC 5.0-5.5V 
Output current: 700mA max
Input current: 800mA max 
Weight: about 55g 
charging time: about 3.5 hours (by computer)   
   about 15-20hours(by sunlight)  
Running time: about 1.1hours (discharging in max.700mA)

 
 
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Re: SHR-testing 2009-05-02 broken?

2009-05-04 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Monday 04 May 2009 15:54:12 Yogiz wrote:

 When I boot for the first time, I get the message that there was an
 error loading the connman module and asking to disable it. The broken
 part seems to be the shutdown menu. When I press the power button or
 X from the top menu, I don't get the menu but a black vertical line
 about 1 px wide which disappears once I click anywhere on the screen.

 I upgraded to unstable but the problem is still there. Can anyone
 confirm or suggest something?

Quoted from SHR mailist:

Ok, a completely new and rebuilt from scratch shr-testing is up. So far it 
seems to work nicely... apart from one little (and important) defect. The 
illume system menu is broken. It has a width of one pixel only... which makes 
hitting the correct button quite difficult :P It came with the update to a 
newer version of the e windowing system and is being worked on.

To shut down your FR without that menu... just press the Power button for some 
seconds and it will shut down nicely.

Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann

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Re: SHR-testing 2009-05-02 broken?

2009-05-04 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Montag 04 Mai 2009 15:54:12 schrieb Yogiz:
 Hi.

 I reflashed SHR anew today using the following files:

 kernel:
 uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta
02.bin

 rootfs:
 openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20090502-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

 When I boot for the first time, I get the message that there was an
 error loading the connman module and asking to disable it. The broken
 part seems to be the shutdown menu. When I press the power button or
 X from the top menu, I don't get the menu but a black vertical line
 about 1 px wide which disappears once I click anywhere on the screen.
Those are two different issues. The connman module is blacklisted by 
enlightenment upstream, because it needs adjustment to dbus API changes in 
connman. Would not work (and did not work) anyway. We will try to get rid of 
that error on first startup, but it is safe to just click on remove.

The shutdown menu is another issue... it broke by changes in enlightenment and 
needs fixing there. I was told somebody is working on it...


 I upgraded to unstable but the problem is still there. Can anyone
 confirm or suggest something?
Well... upgrading from testing to unstable won't bring you a new 
enlightenment, because at this moment the enlightenment in testing is newer 
than the one in unstable (which will change soon now)...


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Re: little today app for shr

2009-05-04 Thread KaZeR



monto wrote:
 
 
 Maybe it's worth asking FSO for a different event?
 
 well, a new version is out but now it's also included in shr feeds, it
 fixes the dirty bad startup script.
 It should be a good idea that the phone-gui will emit a dbus signal that
 show the rejected call, but actually i don't know.
 
 

How did you solve the dirty startup script?

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Re: [Mokomaze] Two bugreports and a feature-request (was: Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released)

2009-05-04 Thread Marcel
Moin.

Am Montag, 4. Mai 2009 07:05:56 schrieb ANT:
 neovento wrote:
 Can you fix this soon? That would be really great. :)

 I am trying to prevent ode's (debian sid) asserts, but no luck. Code of
 the game is correct. I've surfed the web and all recommends to
 recompile ode with --enable-release if that assert appears. I've found
 it was ./configure'd with --enable-double-precision and without
 --disable-debug, so the problem is in one of this flags. Anyway if some
 coding trick will be found to avoid the problem, Double Precision will
 drop the performance. Currently, install libode0debian1 from stable and
 have a fun.

double precision might kill performance on the neo, that's true. But in 
general it would rather cause internal ODE errors - the asserts should 
only be affected by disable-debug.
So sid's ODE package is kinda useless for us because we need single 
precision, correct?

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Re: SHR-testing 2009-05-02 broken?

2009-05-04 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 17:11 +0300, Yogiz wrote:
 Thank you both for the information. I'll use this chance to check out
 the new Openmoko 2009 testing image and I'll return to SHR once the
 problem gets sorted out.
 

Om2009 has the same problem as the issue is with e upstream. We are also
waiting/looking at a fix.

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Re: SHR-testing 2009-05-02 broken?

2009-05-04 Thread Yogiz
Thank you both for the information. I'll use this chance to check out
the new Openmoko 2009 testing image and I'll return to SHR once the
problem gets sorted out.

Yogiz

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Re: little today app for shr

2009-05-04 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
Il giorno lun, 04/05/2009 alle 05.57 -0700, KaZeR ha scritto:
 
 
 The Digital Pioneer wrote:
  
  Yeah, I was afraid that would be the case. No matter, when I reject a
  call,
  it's easy enough to close the missed call message. If you ever find a way
  to
  do it, though, perhaps a config option is in order.
  
 
 
 Maybe it's worth asking FSO for a different event?

well, a new version is out but now it's also included in shr feeds, it
fixes the dirty bad startup script.
It should be a good idea that the phone-gui will emit a dbus signal that
show the rejected call, but actually i don't know.

Bye

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Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-04 Thread Christian Gagneraud
Daniel.Li wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:32 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 08:42 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote:
 :) Humm... I think I'd better let them to make a bid for small
 quantity. :D
 
 Sorry, I slipped. 
 
 latest news from factory.
 
 YL-S01: 26.47 USD
 YL-S02: 20.59 USD
 YL-S03: 10.00 USD

Hi Daniel,

I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last 
holidays (3 weeks in Iceland, by bike), and i can tell you that they 
are not suitable for smartphone. I couldn't keep my Nokia N95/8GB charged.

When they say that you can charge your solar charger with sun light in 
8/12H, it means actually 8/12h exposed under the sun light at its 
zenith, on the equator of the earth!
By experience, i can tell you that you will need _at least_ two sunny 
days to get it charged properly (during which you took care of 
orienting the charger as the sun moves).

You have to be aware of these constraints as well:
- You can't charge your phone while you charge the charger itself
- If the charger is not fully charge (the light is not green), it 
won't charge your phone, _at all_!

As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times 
the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery).

On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed 
earlier, i would be only interested in 2 of them:, the SC019 and the 
SC020, mainly because these are the only ones which has internal 
battery with a capacity = 3000Ah

Regards,
Chris


 
 
 YL-S01
 High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon 
 convert efficiency is over than 16%
 Solar energy board:DC5.0V/300mA
 Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery: 2400mAh/3.7V
 Input Voltage:DC5.0V-5.5V
 Input current: 800mA Max.
 Output Voltage: 5.5V,8.4V 
 Output current: 700mA Max.
 Dimension: 138 mm×79mm×25 mm
 Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W 
 charging time: about 6hours (by computer)
about 8-12hours(by sunlight)
 Running time: about 2hours (discharging in 700mA)
 
 YL-S02
 High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon 
 convert efficiency is over than 16%
 Solar energy board:DC5.0V/300mA
 Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery:1800mAh/3.7V
 Input Voltage:DC5.0V-5.5V
 Input current: 800mA Max.
 Output Voltage:DC5.5V±0.2V(unload)
 Output current: 700mA Max.
 Dimension:138 mm×79mm×25 mm
 Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W 
 charging time: about 4.5 hours (by computer)
   about 6-10hours(by sunlight)
 Running time: about1.6hours (discharging in 700mA)
 
 YL-S03
 High solar energy convert efficiency: over than 16% 
 Solar energy board: 5.5V/80mA 
 Dimension: 95×43×11.5mm 
 High capacity build in battery: 1350mAH/3.7V \
 Output voltage: DC 5.5±0.2V
 Input voltage: DC 5.0-5.5V 
 Output current: 700mA max
 Input current: 800mA max 
 Weight: about 55g 
 charging time: about 3.5 hours (by computer)   
about 15-20hours(by sunlight)  
 Running time: about 1.1hours (discharging in max.700mA)
 




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Re: [Mokomaze] Two bugreports and a feature-request (was: Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released)

2009-05-04 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I was under the impression that the FR has no FPU at all, so single
precision may be better than double, but if you could just do everything in
ints, that would be best. Is there any way to pull that off?
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MokoMakefile

2009-05-04 Thread hadroneo

Hello,

When I try to build the openmoko toolchain with the MokoMakefile
I have encountered this error :

NOTE: make
make: GNUmakefile: Too many levels of symbolic links
make: stat: GNUmakefile: Too many levels of symbolic links
make: *** No rule to make target `GNUmakefile'.  Stop.
FATAL: oe_runmake failed

in the following package

NOTE: package coreutils-native-7.1-r0: task do_compile: started
ERROR: function do_compile failed

My procedure to build the openmoko toolchain was the following :

$ wget http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/Makefile
$ make setup
$ make fso-gta02-testing-image

Nowadays is it possible to build the openmoko toolchain with a
MokoMakefile or is it broken.

Best Regards,
hadroneo.

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Re: [Mokomaze] Two bugreports and a feature-request (was: Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released)

2009-05-04 Thread Marcel
Am Montag, 4. Mai 2009 17:36:01 schrieb The Digital Pioneer:
 I was under the impression that the FR has no FPU at all, so single
 precision may be better than double, but if you could just do
 everything in ints, that would be best. Is there any way to pull that
 off?

Aren't integers single precision? If yes, we just have to stick to 
Debian Lenny's ODE package or build our own ODE 0.11 with single 
precision... (Which would imho be the better solution since ODE improves 
continually [does that word exist?])

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Re: [Mokomaze] Two bugreports and a feature-request (was: Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released)

2009-05-04 Thread Yorick Moko
continuously

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am Montag, 4. Mai 2009 17:36:01 schrieb The Digital Pioneer:
 I was under the impression that the FR has no FPU at all, so single
 precision may be better than double, but if you could just do
 everything in ints, that would be best. Is there any way to pull that
 off?

 Aren't integers single precision? If yes, we just have to stick to
 Debian Lenny's ODE package or build our own ODE 0.11 with single
 precision... (Which would imho be the better solution since ODE improves
 continually [does that word exist?])

 --
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Re: [Mokomaze] Two bugreports and a feature-request (was: Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released)

2009-05-04 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I believe both are words.

It is my understanding that you can have single precision floating point
numbers (float) or double precision (double), and integer values are simply
ints. I could be wrong though. It did happen once before. ;)
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EDJE key-pressed events from textblocks?

2009-05-04 Thread Timo Scheffler
Hi!

I modified the zhone-app (I made an extra-style with small font to show
all 160 chars at sms-input) but now I wanted to see how many chars I
already have entered.

Is there a key-pressed-event or some other way to count the chars
enteres in the zhone-text-edit - edc?
It uses the textblock-part from EDJE and I am correct to assume, that
it's a direct text-input (without the python-script handling the pressed
keys?).

It's just a minor question, but I think it's nice to know how many chars
are left.
(Or do you have another simple and fingerfriendly programm that has
zhone's abilities that I could use instead?)

Timo

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SHR-testing 2009-05-02 broken?

2009-05-04 Thread Yogiz
Hi.

I reflashed SHR anew today using the following files:

kernel:
uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02.bin

rootfs:
openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20090502-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

When I boot for the first time, I get the message that there was an
error loading the connman module and asking to disable it. The broken
part seems to be the shutdown menu. When I press the power button or
X from the top menu, I don't get the menu but a black vertical line
about 1 px wide which disappears once I click anywhere on the screen.

I upgraded to unstable but the problem is still there. Can anyone
confirm or suggest something?

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[SHR] flashed kernel and uname

2009-05-04 Thread Davide Scaini
I flashed a 2.6.28 kernel to my fr with neotool. If i ask uname -r  i get
2.6.29-rc2... so obviously it is not able to load the correct modules.. how
do i fix it?
thanks
d
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Re: little today app for shr

2009-05-04 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
Il giorno lun, 04/05/2009 alle 07.36 -0700, KaZeR ha scritto:
 
 
 monto wrote:
  
  
  Maybe it's worth asking FSO for a different event?
  
  well, a new version is out but now it's also included in shr feeds, it
  fixes the dirty bad startup script.
  It should be a good idea that the phone-gui will emit a dbus signal that
  show the rejected call, but actually i don't know.
  
  
 
 How did you solve the dirty startup script?
 

made a script in /etc/X11Xsession.d/ , this should solve the X
initialization and modified the script itself to continue to try to
connect to dbus sleeping 5 seconds every retry.

Bye!

Pietro


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Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname

2009-05-04 Thread Johny Tenfinger
It's correct. It's not 2.6.28 kernel. It's only wrong package name.

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Re: SHR-testing 2009-05-02 broken?

2009-05-04 Thread Vasco Névoa

That's not all that broke.
I opkg upgraded today, and shr-testing wouldn't launch X11 after a reboot.
It is looking for a bunch of modules named  
/usr/lib/evas/modules/*/*/linux-gnueabi-arm-ver-pre-01/module.so,  
but the only ones that exist are
/usr/lib/evas/modules/*/*/linux-gnueabi-arm/module.so
So I linked the directories that do exist with the names that it is  
looking for, and it is working again.

Why is X11 looking for linux-gnueabi-arm-ver-pre-01 instead of  
linux-gnueabi-arm, and why doesn't my system have it?


Citando Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org:

 On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 17:11 +0300, Yogiz wrote:
 Thank you both for the information. I'll use this chance to check out
 the new Openmoko 2009 testing image and I'll return to SHR once the
 problem gets sorted out.


 Om2009 has the same problem as the issue is with e upstream. We are also
 waiting/looking at a fix.

 Angus


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Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname

2009-05-04 Thread Davide Scaini
some weeks ago i had a REALLY working kernel (with shr unstable), with
reliable wifi and so on... the i upgraded loosing this wonderful balance of
stability and working software. Do you have any hint on a really working
kernel/shr distribution?
thanks
d

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote:

 uh...
 ... nice!
 thanks... but the kernel has no modules then... even nicer!
 I flashed right now a fso kernel and seems working...
 d


 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.comwrote:

 It's correct. It's not 2.6.28 kernel. It's only wrong package name.

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Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname

2009-05-04 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
No problem at all with shr and 2.6.29, but I solved the lack of modules by :
- booting from sdcard
- chrooting on flash
- downloading and unpacking modules archive from 
http://build.shr-project.org

Xavier.


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No suspend/poweroff menù

2009-05-04 Thread Biagio Marino
Hello,
when i push the power-off button whit the last upgrade (this evening)
the menù doesn't work?
When i can fix this?


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Re: No suspend/poweroff menù

2009-05-04 Thread Marcel
Hello,

Please prefix the subject line with the distribution you are using, for 
example:
[OM2007] No suspend/poweroff menù
so that we know what you are talking about.

--
Marcel

Am Montag, 4. Mai 2009 19:12:38 schrieb Biagio Marino:
 Hello,
 when i push the power-off button whit the last upgrade (this evening)
 the menù doesn't work?
 When i can fix this?



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[SHR] Shelf Gadget configuration and E restart

2009-05-04 Thread Laura Vance
The clock on my visible shelf has been overlapping my GSM gadget, so I 
wanted to remove and re-add it.

expand the Shelf - wrench - Shelf Gadgets - clock.

This would cause Enlightenment to crash and I would have to restart it 
(popup window with options of restart and exit).  After a few crashes, I 
was finally able to remove the clock.

I then tried the same process to put the clock back, and it wouldn't 
return to the shelf.  Every time produces the same Enlightenment crash.  
I've tried rebooting the phone with no success.

How can I get my clock back on the shelf?  Is there a config file I can 
manually edit?  I've grepped to try to find where it would be, but I 
don't think the recursive option (-r) on the grep is working properly, 
because it didn't find some files in /etc/ that the same grep from 
within the directory would find.

-Laura

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Re: No suspend/poweroff menù

2009-05-04 Thread Johny Tenfinger
He's talking about SHR. And mrmoku told users on maillist, that there
is syscon menu problem. It's known and upstream, so please: don't spam
every maillist with known, upstream bugs...

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Re: [SHR] Shelf Gadget configuration and E restart

2009-05-04 Thread Johny Tenfinger
It was upstream problem, which should be now fixed.

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Re: [SHR] Shelf Gadget configuration and E restart

2009-05-04 Thread Petr Vanek
On Mon, 4 May 2009 19:33:38 +0200
Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com (JT) wrote:

It was upstream problem, which should be now fixed.

please keep the original question in the email you answer so one knows
what the question was.

On Mon, 04 May 2009 10:32:21 -0600
Laura Vance van...@thespazcat.com (LV) wrote:

The clock on my visible shelf has been overlapping my GSM gadget, so I 
wanted to remove and re-add it.

besides the bug described before (above), there is an easy way to
reposition shelf gadgets: just long tap on them, then you can drag them
where you want. (too bad we cannot do this with launcher icons...)

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Re: [Mokomaze] Two bugreports and a feature-request

2009-05-04 Thread Fox Mulder
The Digital Pioneer wrote:
 I believe both are words.
 
 It is my understanding that you can have single precision floating point
 numbers (float) or double precision (double), and integer values are
 simply ints. I could be wrong though. It did happen once before. ;)

Single precision floating point numbers use 32bit and double precision
floating point use 64bit according to IEEE754 standard for floating
point numbers. So double precision needs calculation with longer numbers
and needs more cpu power with no hardware fpu unit present.

Ciao,
 Rainer

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Re: [SHR] Shelf Gadget configuration and E restart

2009-05-04 Thread Laura Vance
Petr Vanek wrote:

On Mon, 4 May 2009 19:33:38 +0200
Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com (JT) wrote:

  

It was upstream problem, which should be now fixed.



please keep the original question in the email you answer so one knows
what the question was.

On Mon, 04 May 2009 10:32:21 -0600
Laura Vance van...@thespazcat.com (LV) wrote:

  

The clock on my visible shelf has been overlapping my GSM gadget, so I 
wanted to remove and re-add it.



besides the bug described before (above), there is an easy way to
reposition shelf gadgets: just long tap on them, then you can drag them
where you want. (too bad we cannot do this with launcher icons...)

--
Petr Vaněk
  

Darn, I wish I would've known that before removing the clock.  Now I'm 
still stuck with E resetting every time I try to re-add the clock.

How do I put the clock back with E crashing every time?  Is there a 
config file that I can edit?  I couldn't find one with grep -ri, but the 
recursive seems to not work, and it's very tedious to go into every 
directory to grep.

-Laura

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Re: [SHR] Shelf Gadget configuration and E restart

2009-05-04 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Montag 04 Mai 2009 19:23:20 schrieb Laura Vance:
 Petr Vanek wrote:
 On Mon, 4 May 2009 19:33:38 +0200
 
 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com (JT) wrote:
 It was upstream problem, which should be now fixed.
 
 please keep the original question in the email you answer so one knows
 what the question was.
 
 On Mon, 04 May 2009 10:32:21 -0600
 
 Laura Vance van...@thespazcat.com (LV) wrote:
 The clock on my visible shelf has been overlapping my GSM gadget, so I
 wanted to remove and re-add it.
 
 besides the bug described before (above), there is an easy way to
 reposition shelf gadgets: just long tap on them, then you can drag them
 where you want. (too bad we cannot do this with launcher icons...)
 
 --
 Petr Vaněk

 Darn, I wish I would've known that before removing the clock.  Now I'm
 still stuck with E resetting every time I try to re-add the clock.

 How do I put the clock back with E crashing every time?  Is there a
 config file that I can edit?  I couldn't find one with grep -ri, but the
 recursive seems to not work, and it's very tedious to go into every
 directory to grep.
e config is in ~/.e
The easiest way is to just remove that dir. You will loose all the 
modifications you did to the e configuration though... The configuration is in 
binary form, so no text config file to edit.


 -Laura

Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann


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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11

2009-05-04 Thread Ali
Hi, fyi, http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/fso-image-nox-om-gta02.jffs
in the script is broken as you are missing the 2. The correct link is
http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/fso-image-nox-om-gta02.jffs2  


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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11

2009-05-04 Thread Lorn Potter

On 04/05/2009, at 11:01 PM, leonardo wrote:

 Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto:
 * contact management:
  - I don't like it when SIM contacts get merged invisible, so I want
 SIM contact import to be optional (and maybe also a SIM export should
 exist as option)
  - the building of the contact list is slow (because of too many SQL
 statements)
 * bluetooth: 2.6.28 kernels like bluez4, QtE doesn't ...
 * keyboard: now that the keyboard prediction can be turned off, it is
 already much more usable, but still needs a lot of dragging
 left/right/up/down to make a real sentence with punctuation and
 stuff. So some extra buttons and rearranging of existing ones would  
 be
 nice ...

 Moro Franky,
 there is another issue that drives me crazy sometimes. If you have two
 numbers for the same person and you want to send an SMS you have to
 choose the person from the contact list before you write the SMS.  
 Else,
 when you chose the person from the list it automatically gets chosen  
 the
 first one (which in general is the home number...).

The order of numbers on a new contact is this:

Mobile, Home

But listed on the details page as this:
Home
Mobile.

When I tested this, and created a new sms, I got the Mobile number.


 It is really
 annoying because you write the whole SMS and then you throw it away
 because you can't choose the number.

 This is a regression from Qtopia where it was possible to choose among
 the addresses.

 It's in my to-do list after the visual feedback on the keyboard.

Having to choose would add a few more clicks to actually sending an sms.
But, being able to choose between business mobile and mobile might  
mean the difference between a won contract and a kick in the pants.



 ciao,
 leonardo.


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 http://leonardo.lilik.it
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Re: little today app for shr

2009-05-04 Thread Bram Mertens
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
mont...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, bored loosing some calls and always need to periodically check
 pyphenlog i wrote a really simple apps that warn me if one or more call
 are lost.
 Here is the link to opkg, any suggestion is welcome.

 http://www.opkg.org/package_213.html

 Clicking on 1 missed call it opens pyhoneloh and clicking on 1 unread
 message it opens opemoko-messages3, editing the script is simple so you
 can modify that apps.

 The app is insvisible, just sit there and wait for missed calls or
 incoming messages.

 The way it's autostarted is tricky, sleep 180 and then run it, just to
 be shure that illume and frameworkd are running.

 Bye!

 Pietro

Another compliment, this really comes in handy!

I do get the following warning (I started it using the init script
from an ssh session after installing):
r...@om-gta02 ~ $
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242:
DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters
  super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ Let's go on

Kind regards

Bram

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Re: [Shr-User] little today app for shr

2009-05-04 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
Il giorno lun, 04/05/2009 alle 22.12 +0200, Bram Mertens ha scritto:
[snip]
 
 Another compliment, this really comes in handy!
 
 I do get the following warning (I started it using the init script
 from an ssh session after installing):
 r...@om-gta02 ~ $
 /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242:
 DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters
   super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
 
 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ Let's go on
 
 Kind regards
 
 Bram

I know, i think that this is something about dbus or edbus, i've tried
with an interactive python session 

--- BEGIN PASTE

GiSkArD-uNsTaBlE root # DISPLAY=:0 python
Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Jan 22 2009, 17:13:34) 
[GCC 4.1.2] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import elementary
 elementary.init()
 import dbus
 import e_dbus
 import dbus
 dbus_loop = e_dbus.DBusEcoreMainLoop()
  File stdin, line 1
dbus_loop = e_dbus.DBusEcoreMainLoop()
^
IndentationError: unexpected indent
 dbus_loop = e_dbus.DBusEcoreMainLoop()
 system_bus = dbus.SystemBus(mainloop = dbus_loop)
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242:
DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters
  super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
 

--- END PASTE

so i can't do nothing about that, if you don't like let's go it's not
a problem, look in the source and delete line 151 and line 155 but these
aren't errors.

Bye!

Pietro



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[SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries

2009-05-04 Thread Bram Mertens
Hi

So far I've been unable to figure out how to access the list of
contacts on my SIM so it looks like I'll need to enter them again or
import them somehow.

I already have a number of recieved/mised calls that I can access from
pyphonelog.  Is it possible to convert/export these somehow so I can
create contacts out of this list?  All phones I have owned/used/seen
have a feature like this where you can use a number to create a
contact, send an SMS message, etc.

Going further being to do the same from number in SMS messages would
be great too.

Thanks in advance.

Bram

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Re: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries

2009-05-04 Thread jeremy jozwik
yes i would also like to know this one. the SHR phone log desperately needs this


-- Forwarded message --
From: Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Subject: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries
To: community@lists.openmoko.org


Hi

So far I've been unable to figure out how to access the list of
contacts on my SIM so it looks like I'll need to enter them again or
import them somehow.

I already have a number of recieved/mised calls that I can access from
pyphonelog.  Is it possible to convert/export these somehow so I can
create contacts out of this list?  All phones I have owned/used/seen
have a feature like this where you can use a number to create a
contact, send an SMS message, etc.

Going further being to do the same from number in SMS messages would
be great too.

Thanks in advance.

Bram

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11

2009-05-04 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Mon, 04 May 2009 12:14:14 -0700
Ali alish...@interchange.ubc.ca wrote:

 Hi, fyi, http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/fso-image-nox-om-gta02.jffs
 in the script is broken as you are missing the 2. The correct link is
 http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/fso-image-nox-om-gta02.jffs2  
 

well, it's only in the comment, not in the script :-)
But thanks, fixed it now!

Franky

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11

2009-05-04 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Tue, 5 May 2009 05:51:17 +1000
Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote:

  It is really
  annoying because you write the whole SMS and then you throw it away
  because you can't choose the number.
 
  This is a regression from Qtopia where it was possible to choose
  among the addresses.
 
  It's in my to-do list after the visual feedback on the keyboard.
 
 Having to choose would add a few more clicks to actually sending an
 sms. But, being able to choose between business mobile and mobile
 might mean the difference between a won contract and a kick in the
 pants.

nicely put :-)
So, something else to add to the list ...

Franky

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Re: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries

2009-05-04 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Yes, indeed. This is a feature I was really wanting just today in
SHR-unstable.
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Re: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries

2009-05-04 Thread Al Johnson
It can be done with elmphonelog, but requires new functionality from opimd 
that isn't in shr-testing. It works in shr-unstable though. This was announced 
on the shr-user list about a week ago.

On Monday 04 May 2009, jeremy jozwik wrote:
 yes i would also like to know this one. the SHR phone log desperately needs
 this


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM
 Subject: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org


 Hi

 So far I've been unable to figure out how to access the list of
 contacts on my SIM so it looks like I'll need to enter them again or
 import them somehow.

 I already have a number of recieved/mised calls that I can access from
 pyphonelog.  Is it possible to convert/export these somehow so I can
 create contacts out of this list?  All phones I have owned/used/seen
 have a feature like this where you can use a number to create a
 contact, send an SMS message, etc.

 Going further being to do the same from number in SMS messages would
 be great too.

 Thanks in advance.

 Bram

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Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-04 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Christoph and I were talking about this and agree with Christian we
must think on this devices more as  auxiliary batteries with a plus
than solar chargers, so the higher capacity the better.
We are interested in offer this in our shops so we will proceed the
following way, as we do with the Slim BT Keyboard, but this time even
more open and community driven.
I will order a sample of the following models  from en-hancing.com to
test them and put the results on a wiki page along with some pictures
of them on the field.
SC019 3000mAh  coolrought the more expensive
SC020 3600mAh  the highest capacity but seems slightly weaker than sc019
SC018 2600mAh only one solar panel but with higher battery than SC021
and twice cheaper, if it has a mini usb adaptor can be a
better choice for cheaper option

SC021 is only 2000mAh  is just a little bit cheaper than
SC019/20 options

You can suggest what test do you like to be performed and I will
publish the results on that wiki.
After that test we(community included in that we) can disscuss what
model fits  most of all  and I will proceed with an order to have
stock in our shops.
Please be aware than final price will be higher than we have disscused
here, after some quick maths the SC019/20 model will be about 69EUR ,
SC018 about 39EUR, the SC021 about 59EUR(too much for a 2000mAh
battery IMHO)   those prices are just to orientate, custom fees and
Euro/dollar equivalence when the order is finally made are really hard
to calculate(near a lottery really) is just to you have an idea.

So the due the other YL series doesn't has more than 2400mAh and to
avoid more shipping/customs costs (really expesive from china). I
think does't worth the effort to try to buy samples from them.

I will keep you informed about the progress of the plan :)

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2009/5/4 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie:
 Daniel.Li wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:32 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 08:42 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote:
 :) Humm... I think I'd better let them to make a bid for small
 quantity. :D

 Sorry, I slipped.

 latest news from factory.

 YL-S01: 26.47 USD
 YL-S02: 20.59 USD
 YL-S03: 10.00 USD

 Hi Daniel,

 I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last
 holidays (3 weeks in Iceland, by bike), and i can tell you that they
 are not suitable for smartphone. I couldn't keep my Nokia N95/8GB charged.

 When they say that you can charge your solar charger with sun light in
 8/12H, it means actually 8/12h exposed under the sun light at its
 zenith, on the equator of the earth!
 By experience, i can tell you that you will need _at least_ two sunny
 days to get it charged properly (during which you took care of
 orienting the charger as the sun moves).

 You have to be aware of these constraints as well:
 - You can't charge your phone while you charge the charger itself
 - If the charger is not fully charge (the light is not green), it
 won't charge your phone, _at all_!

 As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times
 the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery).

 On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed
 earlier, i would be only interested in 2 of them:, the SC019 and the
 SC020, mainly because these are the only ones which has internal
 battery with a capacity = 3000Ah

 Regards,
 Chris




 YL-S01
 High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon 
 convert efficiency is over than 16%
 Solar energy board:DC5.0V/300mA
 Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery: 2400mAh/3.7V
 Input Voltage:DC5.0V-5.5V
 Input current: 800mA Max.
 Output Voltage: 5.5V,8.4V
 Output current: 700mA Max.
 Dimension: 138 mm×79mm×25 mm
 Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W
 charging time: about 6hours (by computer)
about 8-12hours(by sunlight)
 Running time: about 2hours (discharging in 700mA)

 YL-S02
 High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon 
 convert efficiency is over than 16%
 Solar energy board:DC5.0V/300mA
 Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery:1800mAh/3.7V
 Input Voltage:DC5.0V-5.5V
 Input current: 800mA Max.
 Output Voltage:DC5.5V±0.2V(unload)
 Output current: 700mA Max.
 Dimension:138 mm×79mm×25 mm
 Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W
 charging time: about 4.5 hours (by computer)
   about 6-10hours(by sunlight)
 Running time: about1.6hours (discharging in 700mA)

 YL-S03
 High solar energy convert efficiency: over than 16%
 Solar energy board: 5.5V/80mA
 Dimension: 95×43×11.5mm
 High capacity build in battery: 1350mAH/3.7V \
 Output voltage: DC 5.5±0.2V
 Input voltage: DC 5.0-5.5V
 Output current: 700mA max
 Input current: 800mA max
 Weight: about 55g
 charging time: about 3.5 hours (by computer)
   

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11

2009-05-04 Thread Denis Johnson
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke
liede...@telenet.be wrote:
 * keyboard: now that the keyboard prediction can be turned off, it is
 already much more usable, but still needs a lot of dragging
 left/right/up/down to make a real sentence with punctuation and
 stuff. So some extra buttons and rearranging of existing ones would be
 nice ...

Is there any chance of ever getting the Qwo keyboard workring on QtEi ?

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Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released

2009-05-04 Thread Denis Johnson
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:30 AM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually, I am following this way. I am sure that the game itself is more
 important than a tons of statistic and sub-menus: just launch the game and
 start playing. So, if the feature of showing information about level time
 and retries count will be added, it will be optional.

The nicest and most playable game I have seen on the FR to date. Well
done and thank you for your time.

While we are discussing options, I notice that the feel and response
is a heavier ball then perhaps the visuals suggest. Is it possible to
expose some of the physics settings to the user ? even just via some
properties in a file or start-up switches ?

regards Denis

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Re: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries

2009-05-04 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Sweet. I assume elm means elementary, which sounds great. Where can I get
it? It doesn't seem to be in the feeds.
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Re: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries

2009-05-04 Thread Bram Mertens
Great, haven't seen that seen I've only subscribed to (only heard
about it's exisitng) this week.

Any idea when this would make it to testing?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that SHR-testing is currently more
recent than SHR-unstable.  Is thta no longer true or is there another
reason why this newer version of opimd is not in SHR-testing?

Regards

Bram

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Al Johnson
openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:
 It can be done with elmphonelog, but requires new functionality from opimd
 that isn't in shr-testing. It works in shr-unstable though. This was announced
 on the shr-user list about a week ago.

 On Monday 04 May 2009, jeremy jozwik wrote:
 yes i would also like to know this one. the SHR phone log desperately needs
 this


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM
 Subject: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org


 Hi

 So far I've been unable to figure out how to access the list of
 contacts on my SIM so it looks like I'll need to enter them again or
 import them somehow.

 I already have a number of recieved/mised calls that I can access from
 pyphonelog.  Is it possible to convert/export these somehow so I can
 create contacts out of this list?  All phones I have owned/used/seen
 have a feature like this where you can use a number to create a
 contact, send an SMS message, etc.

 Going further being to do the same from number in SMS messages would
 be great too.

 Thanks in advance.

 Bram

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