Ain't it funny..
The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they all are 'developer skills required', not 'consumer friendly'. We've had Freerunner around now for about a year and there's still not a proper web browser around (packaged, 'just works'). Slow/buggy/not supporting JavaScript/etc... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Browser_review OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze than OM2009. But still, we have open hardware that can be used as a daily phone. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 09:27:59 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they all are 'developer skills required', not 'consumer friendly'. We've had Freerunner around now for about a year and there's still not a proper web browser around (packaged, 'just works'). Slow/buggy/not supporting JavaScript/etc... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Browser_review OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze than OM2009. But still, we have open hardware that can be used as a daily phone. r It is good time for you, start 16th distro, maintain it, and become famous. :) I don't think that is slowing down, and I'm sure community shouldn't work on one stable distro, just because software is more important. As for me I think classic distros maintainers(from Debian to Gentoo) should work on maintaining SHR/FSO/OM projects, because they have much more experience and resources to maintain software, and devs should developing. I'm using some not-very-latest SHR-testing, it is stable enough for me to use it as every day phone, and read IRC in subway. And it is fun, results not so fun as process, so you can start effort smth, and you will be more lucky. :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: * keyboard: now that the keyboard prediction can be turned off, it is already much more usable, but still needs a lot of dragging left/right/up/down to make a real sentence with punctuation and stuff. So some extra buttons and rearranging of existing ones would be nice ... Is there any chance of ever getting the Qwo keyboard workring on QtEi ? qwo needs xorg as a requirement ... so no, since QtEi doesn't/can't use xorg Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries
See this also table: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stable_Hybrid_Release#Feature_overview Please update this table when you find new functionality of issues with existinf functionality. Bram Mertens wrote: Great, haven't seen that seen I've only subscribed to (only heard about it's exisitng) this week. Any idea when this would make it to testing? I seem to recall reading somewhere that SHR-testing is currently more recent than SHR-unstable. Is thta no longer true or is there another reason why this newer version of opimd is not in SHR-testing? Regards Bram On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: It can be done with elmphonelog, but requires new functionality from opimd that isn't in shr-testing. It works in shr-unstable though. This was announced on the shr-user list about a week ago. On Monday 04 May 2009, jeremy jozwik wrote: yes i would also like to know this one. the SHR phone log desperately needs this -- Forwarded message -- From: Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com Date: Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM Subject: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries To: community@lists.openmoko.org Hi So far I've been unable to figure out how to access the list of contacts on my SIM so it looks like I'll need to enter them again or import them somehow. I already have a number of recieved/mised calls that I can access from pyphonelog. Is it possible to convert/export these somehow so I can create contacts out of this list? All phones I have owned/used/seen have a feature like this where you can use a number to create a contact, send an SMS message, etc. Going further being to do the same from number in SMS messages would be great too. Thanks in advance. Bram ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
i would look at dealextreme.com there are many external battery packs which are much cheaper! i have http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9871 which really does not have 1mAh like it claims, but i can charge my freerunner about 1.5 to 2 times without problem and thats all i need. comes with mini-usb adapter and free shipping so its about: 14 Euros. There are many more on the website: http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.external%20battery You have to put freerunner to force fast charge with 500mA to load ... Greetings vale -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Solar-charger-%28was-Re%3A-News-Openmoko-Shop-Pulster%29-tp2708769p2791397.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
2009/5/5 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they all are 'developer skills required', not 'consumer friendly'. I dissgree, shr testing no need for developer skills, it just works as daily phone, it has passed the wife acceptance test his words: -Well, finally this thing seem to work, she was able to make and receive calls, sending sms, and also use the gps without more intructions than ocasional translation, We've had Freerunner around now for about a year and there's still not a proper web browser around (packaged, 'just works'). Slow/buggy/not supporting JavaScript/etc... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Browser_review whoosh from Hackable1 is what you are searching for, I hope it will be ported son to opkg/OE based distros. OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze than OM2009. Not I'm not but I have honestly admint I'm waiting for the final OM2009 before start testing. But still, we have open hardware that can be used as a daily phone. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 07:52:09 Bram Mertens wrote: Great, haven't seen that seen I've only subscribed to (only heard about it's exisitng) this week. Any idea when this would make it to testing? I seem to recall reading somewhere that SHR-testing is currently more recent than SHR-unstable. Is thta no longer true or is there another reason why this newer version of opimd is not in SHR-testing? I'm running SHR-Testing and I'm using elmphonelog. It works great except that it crashes when I try to store something to opimd. But for managing contacts on SIM card it works like a charm. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they all are 'developer skills required', not 'consumer friendly'. We've had Freerunner around now for about a year and there's still not a proper web browser around (packaged, 'just works'). Slow/buggy/not supporting JavaScript/etc... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Browser_review OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze than OM2009. But still, we have open hardware that can be used as a daily phone. r I have just moved from 2008.12 Kustomizer to SHR Testing and it works as a daily phone just fine. Chatted on pidgin for a long time yesterday without any problem for the first time. I shifted as I am traveling for the 2 months and wont be in office for regular updates so needed a stable phone for calling and sms. I think once paroli becomes non full screen (if it already has announcement needed) more people will be interested in OM 2009 as they can have a stable phone and also play mokomaze Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:22 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they all are 'developer skills required', not 'consumer friendly'. We've had Freerunner around now for about a year and there's still not a proper web browser around (packaged, 'just works'). Slow/buggy/not supporting JavaScript/etc... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Browser_review OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze than OM2009. But still, we have open hardware that can be used as a daily phone. r I have just moved from 2008.12 Kustomizer to SHR Testing and it works as a daily phone just fine. Chatted on pidgin for a long time yesterday without any problem for the first time. I shifted as I am traveling for the 2 months and wont be in office for regular updates so needed a stable phone for calling and sms. I think once paroli becomes non full screen (if it already has announcement needed) more people will be interested in OM 2009 as they can have a stable phone and also play mokomaze Rakshat Ok just saw that going to Illume is now possible in OM 2009. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
David Samblas Martinez wrote: 2009/5/5 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they all are 'developer skills required', not 'consumer friendly'. I dissgree, shr testing no need for developer skills, it just works as daily phone. I agree. I'm using shr (switching from time to time between unstable and testing) as my daily phone since two months. There are a lot of things which needs polishing, some nasty bugs to fix, but overall it just works, and you can see progresses almost everyday. shr-settings is slow, but well-thought. GPS works fine. Yesterday i installed notifier, which was definitely a missing feature (i encourage the shr-guys to include it in the release). The UI is nice looking (but a bit slow), it is well themed (every apps have the same look, it doesn't look like a pile of things thrown together like in OM 2008-). I can show it to people without fearing getting joked. The point is that it's far from finished, but you can see that it's getting better everyday. And that's definitely a good thing : it makes user feeling confident. I am feeling confident. Before shr, i was starting to believe that my neo will remain a geek toy. The only thing i miss from my OM-200x days is better contact management. The most nasty bug i'm suffering currently is the unreliable gprs. I use it a lot, and there is a bug in FSO with the muxer which leads the modem to hang over high load. It seems that mickey implemented a fix, but it's not yet available on my testing. Also the battery life is still way too short, and sound in calls is crappy. But it works. David Samblas Martinez wrote: Not I'm not but I have honestly admint I'm waiting for the final OM2009 before start testing. So am i. I will definitely have a look at it, but when it is closer to the release. I know that OM needs bug reports. But i also want something which seems functionnal.. Plus i really like shr.. Also, about activity, don't forget that shr for example has its own mailing list (until last week hosted here too, but now hosted by themselves). About the mokomaze example, i would say it's like dictator, for example. The soft just works, and it's nice. People may get bored of always complaining. Bugs trackers are maybe a better place to report bugs than mailing lists, even if it can be good to discuss issues in the ML. I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user feedback. But i didn't really want to wipe my working phone. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Ain%27t-it-funny..-tp2791276p2791563.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:22:03PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they all are 'developer skills required', not 'consumer friendly'. We've had Freerunner around now for about a year and there's still not a proper web browser around (packaged, 'just works'). Slow/buggy/not supporting JavaScript/etc... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Browser_review OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze than OM2009. But still, we have open hardware that can be used as a daily phone. r I have just moved from 2008.12 Kustomizer to SHR Testing and it works as a daily phone just fine. Chatted on pidgin for a long time yesterday without any problem for the first time. I shifted as I am traveling for the 2 months and wont be in office for regular updates so needed a stable phone for calling and sms. I think once paroli becomes non full screen (if it already has announcement needed) more people will be interested in OM 2009 as they can have a stable phone and also play mokomaze Mirko helped me with this! Edit /etc/paroli.cfg (or /etc/paroli/paroli.conf, look for it since I don't know from heart and the phone is in another room), and set to true the activated status of advanced and restart paroli. Then press aux for about 2 seconds until the menu appears, select phone, then profile, then illume. WARNING: be tolerant and wait a few seconds (maybe 10 at most) until the UI stabilizes. Have fun! Rui -- Grudnuk demand sustenance! Today is Setting Orange, the 52nd day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
Just a question : before I used shr-testing and serenity, and my apps were black (tangogps, wifimofi). Yesterday I flashed my FR to restore a fresh new shr-testing, I restored serenity too, but my apps are grey (like a classical gtk widget). An idea ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 10:19:06 Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Just a question : before I used shr-testing and serenity, and my apps were black (tangogps, wifimofi). Yesterday I flashed my FR to restore a fresh new shr-testing, I restored serenity too, but my apps are grey (like a classical gtk widget). An idea ? Well, you're missing the GTK theme file. Unfortunately I cannot tell you where to find it. I'm looking for it myself for a while now without success. Anyone knows where to get the black gtk theme? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname
Xavier Cremaschi a écrit : No problem at all with shr and 2.6.29, but I solved the lack of modules by : - booting from sdcard - chrooting on flash - downloading and unpacking modules archive from http://build.shr-project.org Xavier. I must add : with 2.6.29-rc2 (packaged in files named 2.6.28, weird) it seems you cannot see the FR from a Microsoft Windows OS, when with 2.6.29-rc3 I can ssh without any problems. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
2009/5/5 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: fresh new shr-testing, I restored serenity too, but my apps are grey (like a classical gtk widget). Is there btw a current URL to screenshots of serenity? I'd be interested to see. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FrOSCon 2009: Call for Participation
Dear Openmoko community, I am one of the organizers of FrOSCon, the Free and Open Source Software Conference, an annual event held at the University of Applied Sciences Bonn-Rhein-Sieg, Germany. The fourth edition of FrOSCon will take place on August 22nd/23rd 2009. In the past two years Michael 'Mickey' Lauer, of Openmoko and FSO fame, held talks about the state of Openmoko that were met with lots of interest and were very well received. That is why I would love to see more participation from Openmoko and related projects. If you want to give a talk, please see our Call for Papers (http://www.froscon.de/en/program/call-for-papers.html, or submit a talk directly at http://cfp.froscon.org). Today, we also started a Call for Projects. At https://callforprojects.froscon.org you can register a booth or apply for a developer room. Developer rooms are provided for projects that want to organize their own track of talks or simply use the infrastracture for internal meetings, hack sessions etc. I hope to see some of you at FrOSCon 2009! Kind regards David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:22:03PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they all are 'developer skills required', not 'consumer friendly'. We've had Freerunner around now for about a year and there's still not a proper web browser around (packaged, 'just works'). Slow/buggy/not supporting JavaScript/etc... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Browser_review OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze than OM2009. But still, we have open hardware that can be used as a daily phone. r I have just moved from 2008.12 Kustomizer to SHR Testing and it works as a daily phone just fine. Chatted on pidgin for a long time yesterday without any problem for the first time. I shifted as I am traveling for the 2 months and wont be in office for regular updates so needed a stable phone for calling and sms. I think once paroli becomes non full screen (if it already has announcement needed) more people will be interested in OM 2009 as they can have a stable phone and also play mokomaze Mirko helped me with this! Edit /etc/paroli.cfg (or /etc/paroli/paroli.conf, look for it since I don't know from heart and the phone is in another room), and set to true the activated status of advanced and restart paroli. Then press aux for about 2 seconds until the menu appears, select phone, then profile, then illume. WARNING: be tolerant and wait a few seconds (maybe 10 at most) until the UI stabilizes. Have fun! Rui -- Grudnuk demand sustenance! Today is Setting Orange, the 52nd day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I am also still working on Tichy [1] when I have time (that is not so much I am afraid). I plan a new release soon. The next version will (hopefully) have : full screen switch, improved keyboard, a new style, a terminal application, support for exporting PIM data to org-mode format, and a lot of code cleaning. -gui [0] http://code.google.com/p/tichy/ -- http://charlie137.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname
fortunately i don't use M$Win. I followed you recipe, but i can't reproduce the wonderful balance that allowed me to connect to my departmental wifi... it seems having some issue, but no idea at which level... thanks i'll try with some other kind of net, then i'll give you feedback d ps: i think that not having a unique recipe that makes it simply work is at least weird... On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote: Xavier Cremaschi a écrit : No problem at all with shr and 2.6.29, but I solved the lack of modules by : - booting from sdcard - chrooting on flash - downloading and unpacking modules archive from http://build.shr-project.org Xavier. I must add : with 2.6.29-rc2 (packaged in files named 2.6.28, weird) it seems you cannot see the FR from a Microsoft Windows OS, when with 2.6.29-rc3 I can ssh without any problems. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
shr-unstable in the past?
hello community i don't know what's wrong. maybe i didn't see right, but on http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/?C=M;O=D is the last date the 23. april. yesterday it was the 4. may. so, why there are old images who replacet the new? hope, there's a logical answer.. :) greets ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
copy a file from smartphone to pc
Hello! I want to transfer a file from my smartphone to the pc, for exemple the file name is toto4 and the username of my pc is elzouebi I runned this command scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200 , it created a file called elzou...@192.168.0.200 on the smartphone :( also I runned this command scp totot4 elzou...@192.168.0.200:sender, sender is a folder on my pc I obtained this error messaj WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-x' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oForwardAgent no' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oPermitLocalCommand no' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oClearAllForwardings yes' /usr/bin/dbclient: exited: Error connecting: Connection refused lost connection what should I do, to copy a file from the smarphone to the pc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: copy a file from smartphone to pc
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 11:54:23 Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Hello! I want to transfer a file from my smartphone to the pc, for exemple the file name is toto4 and the username of my pc is elzouebi I runned this command scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200 , it created a file called elzou...@192.168.0.200 on the smartphone :( You have to give the destination of the copied file: scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200:/path/to/destination ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: copy a file from smartphone to pc
You don't say what OS you're running on your PC, but assuming it's something half-modern and Linux based, open a file browser (I use nautilus) and type in the address bar: sftp://r...@[ip address of phone] [ip address of phone] is usually 192.168.0.202 Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/5 Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com: Hello! I want to transfer a file from my smartphone to the pc, for exemple the file name is toto4 and the username of my pc is elzouebi I runned this command scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200 , it created a file called elzou...@192.168.0.200 on the smartphone :( also I runned this command scp totot4 elzou...@192.168.0.200:sender, sender is a folder on my pc I obtained this error messaj WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-x' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oForwardAgent no' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oPermitLocalCommand no' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oClearAllForwardings yes' /usr/bin/dbclient: exited: Error connecting: Connection refused lost connection what should I do, to copy a file from the smarphone to the pc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname
In the chroot, after unpacking, do not forget to do a depmod -a 2.6.29-rcX (put the name of your /lib/modules/directory here) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname
yes ;-) i did that... ok, maybe i should insist... but this situation makes me at least unhappy thanks Xavier d On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote: In the chroot, after unpacking, do not forget to do a depmod -a 2.6.29-rcX (put the name of your /lib/modules/directory here) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
hackable:1 - new release
Hello Openmoko Community, a new release of hackable:1 is available! We have been working hard on ironing out bugs and making it a lot more usable and I am proud to announce that we have come a long way. Several developers are now using it as daily phone and internet device - so we are eating our own dogfood. hackable:1 now offers phone functionality and sms plus a full PIM suite consisting of contacts, calendar and todo list manager, plus a timesheet time tracker application. For internet use we have added a new browser optimised for small screens and speed. It is based on webkit and supports javascript and allows for quick access of all major functions. The Feedreader has been overhauled and comes with a set of predefined open source feeds to which you can add more to your personal liking. The default keyboard is hackers keyboard, i.e. for stylus use with all special characters quickly accessible. This allows for both, quickly typing an sms as well as using the command line effectively. hackable:1 is based on Debian Lenny thus 25.000 packages are only an apt-get far away. Many packages especially for development are pre-installed - compiler, linker, build tools, dev-libraries are already there for a quick start into development right on the phone, just in minutes. Changes since the last release (rev3) = * plenty of fixes to gsmd and phone-kit * finger scroll works well now, no longer unwanted application starts * plenty of fixes to the hackers keyboard - no more double key presses * fully Lenny based * added new browser woosh * updated feedreader * added calendar, todo, gallery * well working autorotate * and much, much more... How to install it = hackable:1 is running from SD card, thus you can easily check it out as it wont touch your installation in flash of the phone. Simply untar it onto a SD card, pop the SD card into the phone and boot from it. The steps are: - format a 1GB+ SD card with 8MB fat and the rest ext2 - untar the two tarballs - boot from the SD card The detailed steps for installation are here: http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Installation Technology == The hackable:1 apps are GTK+ and C for speed, however there is no restriction. You like qt, e, f or g? You like python, perl or erlang? Welcome on board, this is open source/free software and freedom is about choice. Pick your poison! As of now the applications are a mixture of finger-based and stylus based whichever seems to fit best. What to expect == There will still be bugs. Some apps are not fully optimized for usability. But it is usable as phone, as PDA and as internet device. It is a community project, you can easily join, voice your opinion and add code and applications. The RD department of Bearstech -the french distributor of the Openmoko Freerunners- is sponsoring the development, Bearstech is using it as base for various VAR projects and subsequently Bearstech wants to give back and is commited to the free software community. What does it look like in action Go to youtube and see yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izww_4Z421g Have fun! Marcus - on behalf of the hackable:1 team and community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com writes: Welcome on board, this is open source/free software and freedom is What debian repo should I add to sources.list to get the source code of woosh? Neither http://download.hackable1.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/source/ nor http://download.hackable1.org/debian/dists/sid/main/source/ seem to list it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11
is not possible to use it with SDL? On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: * keyboard: now that the keyboard prediction can be turned off, it is already much more usable, but still needs a lot of dragging left/right/up/down to make a real sentence with punctuation and stuff. So some extra buttons and rearranging of existing ones would be nice ... Is there any chance of ever getting the Qwo keyboard workring on QtEi ? qwo needs xorg as a requirement ... so no, since QtEi doesn't/can't use xorg Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Edit /etc/paroli.cfg (or /etc/paroli/paroli.conf, look for it since I don't know from heart and the phone is in another room), and set to true the activated status of advanced and restart paroli. lol a few corrections only: in /etc/paroli/paroli.conf enable settings: [settings] activated = True Then press aux for about 2 seconds until the menu appears, select phone, then profile, then illume. WARNING: be tolerant and wait a few seconds (maybe 10 at most) until the UI stabilizes. select display - profile and click on paroli, it will change to illume Have fun! yes :) -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:46:49 +0300 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: What debian repo should I add to sources.list to get the source code of woosh? Neither Currently only the tarball is available. You can get it from the woosh wiki page: http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/WooshBrowser Once I have a few hours of time I will clean and restructure the source and add it to svn. Most wanted features are finger scroll and text zoom. Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 08:27:59 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze than OM2009. I just prefer Debian over all these opkg-based distros because I love apt and the huge Debian repositories (besides also having sid on my desktop). Opkg-packaged software is being spread over various repos which one shouldn't mix too much and opkg simply feels ... unfriendly. On the other hand the fso stuff for example (not even thinking about elementary) gets packaged for opkg first and later for Debian, but there's always a downside... :) -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Marcel wrote: Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 08:27:59 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze than OM2009. I just prefer Debian over all these opkg-based distros because I love apt and the huge Debian repositories (besides also having sid on my desktop). Opkg-packaged software is being spread over various repos which one shouldn't mix too much and opkg simply feels ... unfriendly. On the other hand the fso stuff for example (not even thinking about elementary) gets packaged for opkg first and later for Debian, but there's always a downside... :) For better compatability between deb and opkg, I am still in favour of using the debian/ubuntu categories in opkg. See this thread from December: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-December/038472.html and http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-December/038546.html -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR-testing 2009-05-02 broken?
2009/5/4 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt: That's not all that broke. I opkg upgraded today, and shr-testing wouldn't launch X11 after a reboot. It is looking for a bunch of modules named /usr/lib/evas/modules/*/*/linux-gnueabi-arm-ver-pre-01/module.so, but the only ones that exist are /usr/lib/evas/modules/*/*/linux-gnueabi-arm/module.so So I linked the directories that do exist with the names that it is looking for, and it is working again. Why is X11 looking for linux-gnueabi-arm-ver-pre-01 instead of linux-gnueabi-arm, and why doesn't my system have it? someone upstream changed the name of the e packages, and opkg update + opkg upgrade is now broken. apparently the only way to get the new shr-testing is to re-flash, or do what you've done or wait till it's fixed by shr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
Nevertheless we will move forward with the solar chargers :), maybe some one wants to use the neo in the deep jungle :) 2009/5/5 vale va...@gmx.de: i would look at dealextreme.com there are many external battery packs which are much cheaper! i have http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9871 which really does not have 1mAh like it claims, but i can charge my freerunner about 1.5 to 2 times without problem and thats all i need. comes with mini-usb adapter and free shipping so its about: 14 Euros. There are many more on the website: http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.external%20battery You have to put freerunner to force fast charge with 500mA to load ... Greetings vale -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Solar-charger-%28was-Re%3A-News-Openmoko-Shop-Pulster%29-tp2708769p2791397.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FrOSCon 2009: Call for Participation
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 10:59:03 David Roetzel wrote: Today, we also started a Call for Projects. At https://callforprojects.froscon.org you can register a booth or apply for a developer room. Developer rooms are provided for projects that want to organize their own track of talks or simply use the infrastracture for internal meetings, hack sessions etc. That would be a great opportunity in my opinion. While I have too much on my back to organize it, if some of you guys can pull a hacking session / developer/user meeting off, I'd love to be there. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: Nevertheless we will move forward with the solar chargers :), maybe some one wants to use the neo in the deep jungle :) Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. More seriously, what about making an announce email in a new thread (this thread of discussion is getting quite long), so that people can manifest their interest and propose some tests to be carried on the solar charger you have selected. I'm really glad we are going forward on this! Chris 2009/5/5 vale va...@gmx.de: i would look at dealextreme.com there are many external battery packs which are much cheaper! i have http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9871 which really does not have 1mAh like it claims, but i can charge my freerunner about 1.5 to 2 times without problem and thats all i need. comes with mini-usb adapter and free shipping so its about: 14 Euros. There are many more on the website: http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.external%20battery You have to put freerunner to force fast charge with 500mA to load ... Greetings vale -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Solar-charger-%28was-Re%3A-News-Openmoko-Shop-Pulster%29-tp2708769p2791397.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
2009/5/5 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. or a hand-crank charger imo, this is a more reliable way of charging the battery - it'll work anywhere (in a building, underground, when it's raining), anytime (night) and is going to produce a bigger current than this size of solar panel does anyone know of any decent crank chargers that will output over usb? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com writes: Currently only the tarball is available. You can get it from the woosh wiki page: That has several files that are autogenerated with the glade tool. They are not modifiable source code. I asked the author for the glade project files and got them but afaik they are not available on that wiki page. I'm kind of trying to hint here that it'd be nice if you checked that the programs you distribute really contain source code so that they can be modified. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer-2 wrote: Hello Openmoko Community, a new release of hackable:1 is available! ... This is great news!! I've been looking forward to this so much, I think Debian is the most powerful OS for the FR and H1 certainly has my preference amongst the other distro's. I've tried the rev4-preview last weekend, works great en is blazingly fast compared to rev3 (IMO). Interface looks great and the best thing of all: it's very easy to add, modify or remove programs. There is however one thing that prevents me from using my FR as a daily phone (based on rev4-preview): http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/ticket/52 ticket #52 . I tried both Qi (andy's latest) and U-boot (from NOR, I believe) and in both cases the contacts app fails to recognize the '+' in front of the phone numbers of (all) my contacts and more importantly I never see *all* my contacts in the contact list! I use the latest moko11 firmware update btw, as I read on the ticket-page this might be related. It seems (not sure) that when using U-boot I see more contacts (about 30) than when using Qi (about 20), but I'm not entirely sure. Can you tell me if this bug is well know, if it is already fixed in rev4-rc1 or planned to be fixed in the near feature? I've tested with rev4-preview, I haven't had the time to fully test rev4-rc1. Please keep up the great work!! Cheers, Jeroen a.k.a. Tha_Man -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/hackable%3A1---new-release-tp2792131p2793787.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11
Lorn Potter ha scritto: The order of numbers on a new contact is this: Mobile, Home But listed on the details page as this: Home Mobile. When I tested this, and created a new sms, I got the Mobile number. I have contacts that I imported from Qtopia that have home number, a home mobile but no simple mobile number. In these cases the home number comes before then the home mobile. It's in my to-do list after the visual feedback on the keyboard. Having to choose would add a few more clicks to actually sending an sms. But, being able to choose between business mobile and mobile might mean the difference between a won contract and a kick in the pants. so the logic might be if you have only fixed number do not let me chose, if there is more then a mobile, let me chose. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
On Tue, 05 May 2009 15:20:44 +0300 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com writes: Currently only the tarball is available. You can get it from the woosh wiki page: That has several files that are autogenerated with the glade tool. They are not modifiable source code. Yes, they are :-) It is just a hint for a developer using glade to not edit those files because glade simply overwrites them again. But naturally you can modify them. It is like if there was a comment Go and buy a bottle of Coke, now!. You wouldn't have to do that ;-) There was a discussion on debian-legal not long ago about this very comment from glade and consensus was that it has no importance. Regards, Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
yeah, this release rocks! :D just one question.. is it possible to import vcard and ics-files? if it is, its my new favourite :) greets On Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 12.26:17 Marcus Bauer wrote: Hello Openmoko Community, a new release of hackable:1 is available! We have been working hard on ironing out bugs and making it a lot more usable and I am proud to announce that we have come a long way. Several developers are now using it as daily phone and internet device - so we are eating our own dogfood. hackable:1 now offers phone functionality and sms plus a full PIM suite consisting of contacts, calendar and todo list manager, plus a timesheet time tracker application. For internet use we have added a new browser optimised for small screens and speed. It is based on webkit and supports javascript and allows for quick access of all major functions. The Feedreader has been overhauled and comes with a set of predefined open source feeds to which you can add more to your personal liking. The default keyboard is hackers keyboard, i.e. for stylus use with all special characters quickly accessible. This allows for both, quickly typing an sms as well as using the command line effectively. hackable:1 is based on Debian Lenny thus 25.000 packages are only an apt-get far away. Many packages especially for development are pre-installed - compiler, linker, build tools, dev-libraries are already there for a quick start into development right on the phone, just in minutes. Changes since the last release (rev3) = * plenty of fixes to gsmd and phone-kit * finger scroll works well now, no longer unwanted application starts * plenty of fixes to the hackers keyboard - no more double key presses * fully Lenny based * added new browser woosh * updated feedreader * added calendar, todo, gallery * well working autorotate * and much, much more... How to install it = hackable:1 is running from SD card, thus you can easily check it out as it wont touch your installation in flash of the phone. Simply untar it onto a SD card, pop the SD card into the phone and boot from it. The steps are: - format a 1GB+ SD card with 8MB fat and the rest ext2 - untar the two tarballs - boot from the SD card The detailed steps for installation are here: http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Installation Technology == The hackable:1 apps are GTK+ and C for speed, however there is no restriction. You like qt, e, f or g? You like python, perl or erlang? Welcome on board, this is open source/free software and freedom is about choice. Pick your poison! As of now the applications are a mixture of finger-based and stylus based whichever seems to fit best. What to expect == There will still be bugs. Some apps are not fully optimized for usability. But it is usable as phone, as PDA and as internet device. It is a community project, you can easily join, voice your opinion and add code and applications. The RD department of Bearstech -the french distributor of the Openmoko Freerunners- is sponsoring the development, Bearstech is using it as base for various VAR projects and subsequently Bearstech wants to give back and is commited to the free software community. What does it look like in action Go to youtube and see yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izww_4Z421g Have fun! Marcus - on behalf of the hackable:1 team and community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:04 -0700, KaZeR wrote: I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user feedback. But i didn't really want to wipe my working phone. You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It boots way faster that way anyway :) Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
On Tue, 5 May 2009 05:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Tha_Man jeroenb...@hotmail.com wrote: There is however one thing that prevents me from using my FR as a daily phone (based on rev4-preview): http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/ticket/52 ticket #52 . Can you tell me if this bug is well know, if it is already fixed in rev4-rc1 or planned to be fixed in the near feature? We'll have a look into it this week as some of the devs are meeting. With a bit of luck it gets squashed in the next ten days. Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
On Tue, 5 May 2009 15:09:25 +0200 Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch wrote: yeah, this release rocks! :D just one question.. is it possible to import vcard and ics-files? if it is, its my new favourite :) We haven't yet looke into it, but it is based on e-d-s and thus there are already ics and vcard files around and I'm sure there are apps out there for syncing with evolution. Otherwise probably a bit of shell/perl/python will do the trick. Look in ~/.evolution/ for the .ics files journal.ics, calendar.ics, tasks.ics. The evolution data server must be stopped when you edit them or it may overwrite them later on. HTH Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: copy a file from smartphone to pc
Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Hello! I want to transfer a file from my smartphone to the pc, for exemple the file name is toto4 and the username of my pc is elzouebi I runned this command scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200 , it created a file called elzou...@192.168.0.200 on the smartphone :( You forgot the trailing ':' - the command should read: scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200: (the colon is what scp uses to detect a remote location, apparently) also I runned this command scp totot4 elzou...@192.168.0.200:sender, sender is a folder on my pc Is it a folder in the home folder of elzouebi, i.e. is it ~elzouebi/sender ? Else you have to give the full path after the colon. I obtained this error messaj WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-x' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oForwardAgent no' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oPermitLocalCommand no' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oClearAllForwardings yes' /usr/bin/dbclient: exited: Error connecting: Connection refused lost connection Is there a ssh server running on your home pc? what should I do, to copy a file from the smarphone to the pc Why not go the inverse road? Copy the file from your pc with: scp r...@192.168.0.202:/path/to/toto4 . If you're on Windows, you can also use WinSCP for that. Regards, Andreas Fischer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
All very nice!!! Is there a list of FR adapted (i.e. fingerfriendly) applications? If yes I can answer th next question myself: - a music player that works - an alarm that also works who can help? Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com writes: But naturally you can modify them. It is like if there was a comment Go and buy a bottle of Coke, now!. You wouldn't have to do that ;-) There was a discussion on debian-legal not long ago about this very comment from glade and consensus was that it has no importance. Was that concensus for the general case of all automatically generated files or just the specific case where the files have been modified by hand after being generated? http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2008/08/msg00177.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
i barely use my phone so openmoko is working great as a ogg and gps tool. On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:04 -0700, KaZeR wrote: I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user feedback. But i didn't really want to wipe my working phone. You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It boots way faster that way anyway :) Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:35 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: latest news from factory. YL-S01: 26.47 USD 2400mAh/3.7V YL-S02: 20.59 USD 1800mAh/3.7V YL-S03: 10.00 USD 1350mAH/3.7V Hi Daniel, I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last holidays (3 weeks in Iceland, by bike), and i can tell you that they are not suitable for smartphone. I couldn't keep my Nokia N95/8GB charged. When they say that you can charge your solar charger with sun light in 8/12H, it means actually 8/12h exposed under the sun light at its zenith, on the equator of the earth! By experience, i can tell you that you will need _at least_ two sunny days to get it charged properly (during which you took care of orienting the charger as the sun moves). Thanks for you info. And it's very useful. I found that YB-E5008 has only 3.6V/1100mAH. http://y-toshenzhentech.itm.com.cn/532951/solar-charge-yb-e5008-for-mobile-phone-mp34.htm Well, I have to re-check it with factory before I buy one :) You have to be aware of these constraints as well: - You can't charge your phone while you charge the charger itself YL-S** series can charge your phone when the charger is charged with solar energy board :) - If the charger is not fully charge (the light is not green), it won't charge your phone, _at all_! Humm, I have checked with factory. LED of YL-S** series only indicates how much battery is left. And even it shows red, it can still charge the FR. 70%-100%Green 30%-70% Orange 0%-30% red Of course, I think we had better to test it. And I think you are right the higher capacity the better :) As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery). On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed earlier, i would be only interested in 2 of them:, the SC019 and the SC020, mainly because these are the only ones which has internal battery with a capacity = 3000Ah Yeah, I have checked with them again. They have larger capacity 3.0/3.5/4.0Ah But the price is a little bit higher. :) Regards, Chris -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:03 +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: You can suggest what test do you like to be performed and I will publish the results on that wiki. Excellent! A link is appreciated here. Thanks So the due the other YL series doesn't has more than 2400mAh They have larger capacity. 3.0/3.5/4.0 price is a little bit higher. and to avoid more shipping/customs costs (really expesive from china). Humm I'm in China. Seems good for me to buy one :) I think does't worth the effort to try to buy samples from them. I'll try to see what I can do. But I don't know how to test if I got one. :( I will keep you informed about the progress of the plan :) -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR-testing 2009-05-02 broken?
I had to reflash because DBUS wasn't running the way it should and so all the phone apps were broken. :( But now the new kernel broke the windows USB connectivity again!!! Aaarrgghh!! Citando Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: 2009/5/4 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt: That's not all that broke. I opkg upgraded today, and shr-testing wouldn't launch X11 after a reboot. It is looking for a bunch of modules named /usr/lib/evas/modules/*/*/linux-gnueabi-arm-ver-pre-01/module.so, but the only ones that exist are /usr/lib/evas/modules/*/*/linux-gnueabi-arm/module.so So I linked the directories that do exist with the names that it is looking for, and it is working again. Why is X11 looking for linux-gnueabi-arm-ver-pre-01 instead of linux-gnueabi-arm, and why doesn't my system have it? someone upstream changed the name of the e packages, and opkg update + opkg upgrade is now broken. apparently the only way to get the new shr-testing is to re-flash, or do what you've done or wait till it's fixed by shr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko and LCD TV
Hello, Yesterday I accidentally put my OM phone near LCD TV (Samsung). SW on OM is QT Extended and when I press power button (to wake up mobile) TV immediately turn off. I tried again and TV changed channel. So, on my phone this behavioure is repeatable. Is it normal behavioure? Thanks in advance Mile ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 18:38:42 schrieb Mile Davidovic: Hello, Yesterday I accidentally put my OM phone near LCD TV (Samsung). SW on OM is QT Extended and when I press power button (to wake up mobile) TV immediately turn off. I tried again and TV changed channel. So, on my phone this behavioure is repeatable. If the neo had an infrared led I'd have guessed it sends some random signal, but since it does not... Voodoo... °_° Seriously: Electromagnetic fields? GSM? I really have to try that with my TV... -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
2009/5/5 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 18:38:42 schrieb Mile Davidovic: Yesterday I accidentally put my OM phone near LCD TV (Samsung). SW on OM is QT Extended and when I press power button (to wake up mobile) TV immediately turn off. I tried again and TV changed channel. So, on my phone this behavioure is repeatable. If the neo had an infrared led I'd have guessed it sends some random signal, but since it does not... Voodoo... °_° Seriously: Electromagnetic fields? GSM? I really have to try that with my TV... There are various standards that define the kinds/amount of EMI that an electrical device must: (1) be able to cope with, and/or (2) not produce in excess of. It sounds like either your OM or your TV might not be fully compliant. Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
Denis Johnson is it possible to expose some of the physics settings to the user ? Yes, but it is not planned yet. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze-0.5.0--is-released-tp2754592p2800188.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Two bugreports and a feature-request (was: Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released)
Marcel-2 So sid's ODE package is kinda useless for us because we need single precision, correct? Yes, I think so. build our own ODE 0.11 with single precision... I've already packed it. But it would be great to have properly-packed version in pkg-fso repository. The Digital Pioneer if you could just do everything in ints, that would be best. Is there any way to pull that off? There is no integer-only version of ODE. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze-0.5.0--is-released-tp2754592p2800244.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
I agree. Luckily I have additional Samsung TV (19 inch) and 5 OM phones. I will check with more phones. Regards Mile On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote: 2009/5/5 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 18:38:42 schrieb Mile Davidovic: Yesterday I accidentally put my OM phone near LCD TV (Samsung). SW on OM is QT Extended and when I press power button (to wake up mobile) TV immediately turn off. I tried again and TV changed channel. So, on my phone this behavioure is repeatable. If the neo had an infrared led I'd have guessed it sends some random signal, but since it does not... Voodoo... °_° Seriously: Electromagnetic fields? GSM? I really have to try that with my TV... There are various standards that define the kinds/amount of EMI that an electrical device must: (1) be able to cope with, and/or (2) not produce in excess of. It sounds like either your OM or your TV might not be fully compliant. Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
Daniel.Li wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:35 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: latest news from factory. YL-S01: 26.47 USD 2400mAh/3.7V YL-S02: 20.59 USD 1800mAh/3.7V YL-S03: 10.00 USD 1350mAH/3.7V Hi Daniel, I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last holidays (3 weeks in Iceland, by bike), and i can tell you that they are not suitable for smartphone. I couldn't keep my Nokia N95/8GB charged. When they say that you can charge your solar charger with sun light in 8/12H, it means actually 8/12h exposed under the sun light at its zenith, on the equator of the earth! By experience, i can tell you that you will need _at least_ two sunny days to get it charged properly (during which you took care of orienting the charger as the sun moves). Thanks for you info. And it's very useful. I found that YB-E5008 has only 3.6V/1100mAH. http://y-toshenzhentech.itm.com.cn/532951/solar-charge-yb-e5008-for-mobile-phone-mp34.htm Actually, i've looked inside my charger, and the battery is definitely a 2.1Ah. It looks like different manufacturer use same name for _almost_ the same device, yeah, almost... Well, I have to re-check it with factory before I buy one :) You have to be aware of these constraints as well: - You can't charge your phone while you charge the charger itself YL-S** series can charge your phone when the charger is charged with solar energy board :) - If the charger is not fully charge (the light is not green), it won't charge your phone, _at all_! Humm, I have checked with factory. LED of YL-S** series only indicates how much battery is left. And even it shows red, it can still charge the FR. Yeah, with mine i couldn't charge a N95, to tell you the truth i was very disappointed with this charger... 70%-100% Green 30%-70% Orange 0%-30%red Of course, I think we had better to test it. And I think you are right the higher capacity the better :) As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery). On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed earlier, i would be only interested in 2 of them:, the SC019 and the SC020, mainly because these are the only ones which has internal battery with a capacity = 3000Ah Yeah, I have checked with them again. They have larger capacity 3.0/3.5/4.0Ah wow, 4Ah, do you have any links? Chris But the price is a little bit higher. :) Regards, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Two bugreports and a feature-request (was: Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released)
neovento Could you provide a link to the version that works? I tried the lenny package, but no success. Aww. I've finally got my Hackable:1 working and I've tested the .deb package. After installing libode0.11 from unstable it asserts (because of double precision). After installing libode0.9 from stable - the game trying to find libode0.11 (yes, the executable is compiled for using single-precision libode = 0.11). So, I've packed a .deb of an up-to-date ode0.11 with single precision. Now it works and the game runs faster than on my SHR testing. NEW: I've released a new revision of the game - 0.5.1. Now .deb depends from my libode, not libode0debian1. One more feature introduced: anti-aliasing [1] Check the homepage [2]. [1] http://mokomaze.projects.openmoko.org/images/anti-aliasing.png [2] http://mokomaze.projects.openmoko.org/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze-0.5.0--is-released-tp2754592p2800527.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko neo shape
I think that is little heavy for my neck? Mile On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: It has been designed for the asian market, where it's pretty fashionable to hold your phone with a strap around the neck. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
i was playing the game at work and a co-worker wanted to play. he was much more... active at playing then me and managed to get the ball stuck in the top edge of sceen on level 1 and 4. and it does not like to pop back out. no matter how hard you shake it : ) On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:01 AM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: Denis Johnson is it possible to expose some of the physics settings to the user ? Yes, but it is not planned yet. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze-0.5.0--is-released-tp2754592p2800188.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko, glibc and backtrace
Hello I tried to use backtrace function from glibc on OM and I failed. I tried some google and I found some page which claims that backtrace is not supported in arm eabi. Also, I tried to debug some application with gdbserver and it seems that bt command does not work as expected. Do we have some wiki page about debugging OM? Kind regards Mile ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 19:16, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: i was playing the game at work and a co-worker wanted to play. he was much more... active at playing then me and managed to get the ball stuck in the top edge of sceen on level 1 and 4. and it does not like to pop back out. no matter how hard you shake it : ) I can confirm. That bug is sometimes happening. It hapenns sometimes when i'm holding phone in Y axis (to earth) with screen to me. Previous version didn't have this bug. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Two bugreports and a feature-request (was: Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released)
Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 19:03:26 schrieb ANT: build our own ODE 0.11 with single precision... I've already packed it. But it would be great to have properly-packed version in pkg-fso repository. I'd love to do that, but it will take some time since I'm just beginning with packaging and won't have time to do it before next tuesday. My plan looks like making a proper, working package for mokomaze before I try something more complex to get into the process. (Hadn't intended to tell you until I had finished... ;D) I'll see how I get along. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Angus Ainslie-2 (via Nabble) a écrit : On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:04 -0700, KaZeR wrote: I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user feedback. But i didn't really want to wipe my working phone. You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It boots way faster that way anyway :) Indeed, but i'll have to buy another uSD card. Well, it's not expensive anyway :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Ain%27t-it-funny..-tp2791276p2801283.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
Hi Angus, thank you for the info and hard work. I have been testing paroli every two to three weeks (regularly i use shr). today i have flashed the testing release 2 image and used it this afternoon. the testing release seems to be full of new features. i flashed it to nand, i use qi. Paroli settings screen - change illume profile ( paroli fulsscreen or illume ) great and worked, one can choose upon demand so this is good. - GPRS settings APN settings enable or disable GPRS got connected instantly, just worked., great. G indication for connection is super. but i could eventually not get disconnected - had to kill paroli and eventually reboot anyways - profile settings menu ringtone volume vibration on incoming call message volume vibration on incoming message and others - this needs to be enabled from /etc/paroli/paroli.cfg as some features are still a little experimental the setting app is good. Tons of new feature's in the FSO framework - Automatic timezones for mutlizone countries - lots under the hood check here to see all of them http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=summary Bugs fixed Power button does not shutdown device otimed sets timezone incorrectly in large countries FSO 389 Power status events ignored FSO 381 feeds are incorrectly set to unstable interface is responsive and consistent. i quite like it but had to get used to it... as i say i use it every now and then. i can imagine a bit different theming but i am sure this will come and it's not a priority now. i do like the one consistent application approach. now issues: the buttons are too small for fingers sometimes (delete on messages, + to add a message etc.) two times (huh, now again.. so three times) the tele crashed during phone call (call did not get disconnected so i could finish it.) then paroli restart or neo restart... sending sms while off signal gave no error, but no sms saved as draft so got simply lost... operator name not displayed (did get displayed in illume shelf though) sms receiving OK the biggest issue (and this is what i was hoping would be solved) is still the lng delay on call answer between pressing the answer button and the ring stopping and caller getting through. i actually lost one call on this. i never really understood the time changing by pressing the AUX button... and how do you set alarm time? autosuspend although enabled did not work, autodim does work Bugs fixed Power button does not shutdown device not for me :) i still have it on so i can do more tests if necessary... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
jeremy jozwik ...managed to get the ball stuck in the top edge of sceen on level 1 and 4. and it does not like to pop back out. no matter how hard you shake it : ) Johny Tenfinger I can confirm. That bug is sometimes happening. It hapenns sometimes when i'm holding phone in Y axis (to earth) with screen to me. I've just fixed (I hope) this problem and updated the source tarball and installation packages. If you already got 0.5.1 without this fix, please download/install it again! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze-0.5.0--is-released-tp2754592p2801954.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 20:10, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: I've just fixed (I hope) this problem and updated the source tarball and installation packages. If you already got 0.5.1 without this fix, please download/install it again! It works, thanks :) But there is also another bug: when i'm holding FR exactly in Y axis to earth (my english isn't good enough to explain it in better way ;P) with hole up, and screen to you - ball stops. It runs again when only i move FR a little. If i'll back to that problematic position, it stops again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr - messages + wsod
ivvmm wrote: Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote: Il giorno mar, 21/04/2009 alle 22.30 +0400, ivvmm ha scritto: Pietro Montorfano wrote: just get back to the old 2.6.29-r2 kernel and then wsod will go away. How can this be achieved? The WSOD is really getting on my nerves. Quite simple but dirty: 1) download a tar.gz version of shr which was running and the uImage, let's say the one built on 10th of april, before the big upgrade. 2) get the /lib/modules/2.6.29-r2 dir out of the tar.gz 3) copy it to your FR with scp, obviously it should be in /lib/modules 4) run depmod -ae from your FR 5a) if you are using the flash, use dfu-util to flash the kernel 5b) if you are using the uSD, copy the uImage in the right place There are other ways like using opkg or something similar but, hey, this is simple and it's working :D Bye! Pietro Thank you for the solution. But why just SHR developers do not revert the kernel packages in testing and leave newer in unstable? It seems that I've found the way to avoid WSOD. If is somehow connected with the backlight of the display. If you live it at 100% the WSOD will not happen. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
Hi Petr, thanks for the detailed report and especially for sharing it. I already stated at the issues you mentioned and hope to report positive outcomes later this week ;) Some comments are in-line Keep it coming :=) /mirko Petr Vanek wrote: sending sms while off signal gave no error, but no sms saved as draft so got simply lost... Good point, added to my list. operator name not displayed (did get displayed in illume shelf though) Talked about this earlier today on irc and we agreed it should be optional, so also on my list :) the biggest issue (and this is what i was hoping would be solved) is still the lng delay on call answer between pressing the answer button and the ring stopping and caller getting through. i actually lost one call on this. I am not entirely sure I can do much about this, as the UI is waiting for signals form the framework ... i never really understood the time changing by pressing the AUX button... and how do you set alarm time? Alarm as well as Time will migrate into the settings app, which I also need to clean a bit, lots of settings laying around in current unstable. Thanks again :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
Johny Tenfinger there is also another bug: when i'm holding FR exactly in Y axis to earth (my english isn't good enough to explain it in better way ;P) with hole up, and screen to you - ball stops. It runs again when only i move FR a little. If i'll back to that problematic position, it stops again. Ok, I've just renewed the packages again. Please reinstall it. Now the ball doesn't stops but slows down. There is no better solution yet. P.S. I hope this fixes will not break something else :P -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze-0.5.0--is-released-tp2754592p2803775.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko, glibc and backtrace
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 19:19 +0200, Mile Davidovic wrote: Hello I tried to use backtrace function from glibc on OM and I failed. I tried some google and I found some page which claims that backtrace is not supported in arm eabi. Also, I tried to debug some application with gdbserver and it seems that bt command does not work as expected. Do we have some wiki page about debugging OM? Kind regards Mile ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community hi,I tried debuging wesnoth on the openmoko and succeeded. however I was told to use svn boost wich didn't compile,I must look into it. I wrote how I've done it here: http://gnutoo.homelinux.org/blog/index.php?entry=entry090410-230918 I'll paste the content here for convenience: debugging wesnoth on the openmoko(128MB of ram) Friday, April 10, 2009, 11:09 PM - openembedded Posted by Administrator I've successfully produced a stacktrace from wesnoth under gdb on the openmoko. Here's are the problem: *gdb didn't work on the openmoko...it was related to this bugreport: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10046 I or someone must fix it. *gdbserver-gdb did work under the openmoko...but it went out of ram while loading the symbols... There are several remainings solutions: *make it produce a coredump and load it under your desktop/laptop computer *use gdbserver(openmoko,armv4t,128MB of ram)-gdb(x86,lot of ram) *use another solution like qemu but **qemu from openmoko had problems: ***uboot didn't load the kenrel and rebooted the (virtual) machine ***qemu refused to load something else than a (virtual) flash disk **use normal qemu-system-arm with another (virtual) machine: ***or must cross-compile a system from scratch for it(using openembedded of course) ***or must use an existing system and so you need to do some hard work to make your application on it *use swap(slow and would need repartitioningworks only if you have enough space so here's the solution for the core: *check if the core dump size is illimited: # ulimit unlimited else set it to unlimited: # ulimit unlimited *then create a directory and cd into it $ mkdir cr $ cd cr *then make the application produce the core file: $ export DISPLAY=:0 $ wesnoth -f -r 480x640 --log-debug=all *then export your device's filesystem trough ssh # sshfs r...@192.168.0.202:/ /mnt/moko/ *then compile gdb for armv target: **or use openembedded: $ bitbake gdb-cross $ ~/oetmp/cross/armv4t/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gdb replace ~/oetmp by your openembedded temp dir **if you don't have openembedded use this commands: $ wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gdb/gdb-6.8.tar.bz2 $ tar xvzf gdb-6.8.tar.bz2 $ cd gdb-6.8 $ ./configure --target=arm-linux $ make $ cd gdb $ cp gdb ../../ $ cd ../../ $ gdb then you are into gdb: GNU gdb 6.8 Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type show copying and show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --target=arm-linux. (gdb) set sysroot /mnt/moko (gdb) file /mnt/moko/usr/bin/wesnoth Reading symbols from /mnt/moko/usr/bin/wesnoth...Reading symbols from /mnt/moko/usr/bin/.debug/wesnoth...done. done. (gdb) target core core Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/lib/libpthread.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libboost_iostreams-mt-d.so Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libboost_regex-mt-d.so Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libSDL_net-1.2.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/lib/libdl.so.2 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libX11.so.6 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libXext.so.6 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/lib/libm.so.6 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/lib/libc.so.6 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libts-1.0.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/lib/ld-linux.so.3 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libz.so.1 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/lib/librt.so.1 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 Loaded symbols for /mnt/moko/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: the biggest issue (and this is what i was hoping would be solved) is still the lng delay on call answer between pressing the answer button and the ring stopping and caller getting through. i actually lost one call on this. I am not entirely sure I can do much about this, as the UI is waiting for signals form the framework ... Does the ringtones are already in .wav format? Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
LK the biggest issue (and this is what i was hoping would be LK solved) is still the lng delay on call answer between LK pressing the answer button and the ring stopping and caller LK getting through. i actually lost one call on this. LK LK I am not entirely sure I can do much about this, as the UI is LK waiting for signals form the framework ... LK LK Does the ringtones are already in .wav format? i have tried this on latest shr testing with no success - still long delay between button press and real answer... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
(Very very very)³ * (very+infinity) nice thing!!! :D That was what I was hoping for: committed merchants in touch with the community! I hope you will provide some of them for sale soon. cheers Matthias David Reyes Samblas Martinez schrieb: Christoph and I were talking about this and agree with Christian we must think on this devices more as auxiliary batteries with a plus than solar chargers, so the higher capacity the better. We are interested in offer this in our shops so we will proceed the following way, as we do with the Slim BT Keyboard, but this time even more open and community driven. I will order a sample of the following models from en-hancing.com to test them and put the results on a wiki page along with some pictures of them on the field. SC019 3000mAh coolrought the more expensive SC020 3600mAh the highest capacity but seems slightly weaker than sc019 SC018 2600mAh only one solar panel but with higher battery than SC021 and twice cheaper, if it has a mini usb adaptor can be a better choice for cheaper option SC021 is only 2000mAh is just a little bit cheaper than SC019/20 options You can suggest what test do you like to be performed and I will publish the results on that wiki. After that test we(community included in that we) can disscuss what model fits most of all and I will proceed with an order to have stock in our shops. Please be aware than final price will be higher than we have disscused here, after some quick maths the SC019/20 model will be about 69EUR , SC018 about 39EUR, the SC021 about 59EUR(too much for a 2000mAh battery IMHO) those prices are just to orientate, custom fees and Euro/dollar equivalence when the order is finally made are really hard to calculate(near a lottery really) is just to you have an idea. So the due the other YL series doesn't has more than 2400mAh and to avoid more shipping/customs costs (really expesive from china). I think does't worth the effort to try to buy samples from them. I will keep you informed about the progress of the plan :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will my phone buzz?
If you remove the two tork screws and remove the front cover you will se the board rev. In anycase if you have A5 or A6 you are susceptible to the buzz issue. If you bought 900 and dont experience it it is likely that you are communicating on 1900 which doesnt, according to anecdotal reports, suffer from the buzz symptoms Shachar Shemesh wrote: Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz writes: Can anyone tell me how I can find out? Is there some way to look at the board of a phone and tell whether it has the fix? cat /proc/cpuinfo If it says 0305 you have V5 and need a fix. I'm sorry if I'm asking a silly question. When I do cat /proc/cpuinfo I get Revision: 24420360, so presumably I'm okay. Then again, while trying to figure out what field I was supposed to be looking at, I stumbled upon http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware. From there, it seems that the user space gets that data from the kernel, which in turn gets it from the boot loader, which doesn't get it from anywhere at all hardware related. I've upgraded my boot loader with an image I downloaded from the Internet (so I could boot from ext2 partitions on a microsd card). So now I have to wonder whether the fact that it says 24420360 actually means anything other than I upgraded my u-boot? I have the debug board, which implicitly means I have the screw driver needed to open the device (already did once). I was more looking for something that says this is the change you need to do in order to fix the buzz, and then just open the device and have a look whether that change is already in place. Thanks, Shachar P.s. This is somewhat academic, as I'm fairly certain that my phone is a V6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
thats why i have mine set to vibrate. strange until it actually stops but its better then a long ringer On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: LK the biggest issue (and this is what i was hoping would be LK solved) is still the lng delay on call answer between LK pressing the answer button and the ring stopping and caller LK getting through. i actually lost one call on this. LK LK I am not entirely sure I can do much about this, as the UI is LK waiting for signals form the framework ... LK LK Does the ringtones are already in .wav format? i have tried this on latest shr testing with no success - still long delay between button press and real answer... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
go to the category Use OM.2008 GTK-Theme on http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks or try this opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/moko-gtk-theme_0.1.0+svnr4734-r0_armv4t.opk opkg -force-depends install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/moko-gtk-engine_0.1.0+svnr4734-r0_armv4t.opk echo include \/usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc\ /home/root/.gtkrc-2.0 - jeremy On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/5 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: fresh new shr-testing, I restored serenity too, but my apps are grey (like a classical gtk widget). Is there btw a current URL to screenshots of serenity? I'd be interested to see. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: toolchain with Ubuntu Jaunty (9.04)
Yes, it works fins as far as I can see. On 4/6/09, Michael Tansella michael-tanse...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, has anybody tried the new toolchain with new Ubuntu (9.04)? Is it compatible? Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
Hello My understanding is next: - qt extended have support for CSD but quite rudimentary (these words are from qt extended documentation) - sample qt application works fine with CSD but only first time (they have problem with releasing resources) In general, OpenMoko is capable of working with CSD but my understanding is that CSD (at least on Qt) is not preferable working scenario. Regards Mile On 3/27/09, Tuan TRINH openmoko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ed, Thank you. Will try and come back to you later. Cordially, Tuan On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: Hi Tuan, I think our distributions differ to much to be of any more help. i am using om2008.12, you could try to run that of an sd card and see if it works that way. Aparently you do have a working data number on your phone, so that is a good thing. The hardware in the FR is capabale of making data calls, so that is a good thing too. Good luck, and let us know your success/failures, we all can learn from it. Kind regards, Ed On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 13:11 +0700, Tuan TRINH wrote: Hi Ed, My answers are bellow. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: Hi Tuan, Strange that no connection is made to the landline modem. you see no response, but dou you see the at commands echoed back? When I make data calls, I see AT cmd echo back with OK -- modem acepts cmd. if not use ate1 to see the responses. I always use ATE1 at fisrt. you can restart /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd with the -v option and use logread to see what is send and received from the modem. Woop, I never see this process via ps. I use qtextend and before doing things with socat I always shutdown qtextend so I can connect to /dev/ttySA0. Do I need this before making data calls? Actually I can make voice calls by ATs without this. If you use the motorola to call your FR, can you pick up the call with the ATA command? Can, after seeing RING, I use ATH to accept. Do you see a ring message? Good luck ! Ed On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 17:38 +0700, Tuan TRINH wrote: Hi Ed, Just try to initiate data call but no success. There is a strange symptom that is: If I use the same SIM but on other mobile (Motorora Z8) I can hear the far end land-line modem sound respone but if I use FR to call the same modem: (1) via AT commands I see no response, both sound and response modem characters so can not use expect(CONNECT) with ppp (2) via GUI, it drop the call. My FR can do voice call normally. Do you have any way to debug the status of data call while using AT commands? I just know +CEER but it does not give much info. Cordially, Tuan SNIP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
On Tue, 5 May 2009 22:44:49 +0200 Mile Davidovic david.moko.comun...@gmail.com wrote: Hello My understanding is next: - qt extended have support for CSD but quite rudimentary (these words are from qt extended documentation) - sample qt application works fine with CSD but only first time (they have problem with releasing resources) In general, OpenMoko is capable of working with CSD but my understanding is that CSD (at least on Qt) is not preferable working scenario. Regards Mile Hi Mile, I'm sorry, but I'm not really familiar with CSD calls, could you ellaborate? Also, it seems you've done some research in this. Care to join the development of QtEi for this part? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
ANT ant0...@gmail.com writes: The debian package is untested, so let me know if it works or not. http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/815/mokomaze_0.5.1-1_armel.deb seems to depend on libode but there is no such package in debian. Perhaps it means libode1? I built my own debian package from 0.5.0 sources but it fails to start: li...@ginger:~$ sudo mokomaze File_loader: savegame file not found File_loader: 14 game levels parsed Accelerometer: starting auto-detection of device type Accelerometer: Neo Freerunner detected Accelerometer: current threshold value is 0 Accelerometer: threshold is not required to be changed. Accelerometer: threshold is not required to be restored. ODE INTERNAL ERROR 1: assertion bNormalizationResult failed in _dNormalize4() [../../include/ode/odemath.h] Aborted Any idea what should I check? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 12:57:17 pm Sam Kuper wrote: There are various standards that define the kinds/amount of EMI that an electrical device must: (1) be able to cope with, and/or (2) not produce in excess of. It sounds like either your OM or your TV might not be fully compliant. It sounds like its his TV I just tried it with my OM and my Toshiba 21 inch LCD and the TV didn't turn off signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: copy a file from smartphone to pc
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 14:25:23 Andreas Fischer wrote: Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Hello! I want to transfer a file from my smartphone to the pc, for exemple the file name is toto4 and the username of my pc is elzouebi I runned this command scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200 , it created a file called elzou...@192.168.0.200 on the smartphone :( You forgot the trailing ':' - the command should read: scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200: (the colon is what scp uses to detect a remote location, apparently) also I runned this command scp totot4 elzou...@192.168.0.200:sender, sender is a folder on my pc Is it a folder in the home folder of elzouebi, i.e. is it ~elzouebi/sender ? Else you have to give the full path after the colon. I obtained this error messaj WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-x' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oForwardAgent no' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oPermitLocalCommand no' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oClearAllForwardings yes' /usr/bin/dbclient: exited: Error connecting: Connection refused lost connection Is there a ssh server running on your home pc? what should I do, to copy a file from the smarphone to the pc Why not go the inverse road? Copy the file from your pc with: scp r...@192.168.0.202:/path/to/toto4 . If you're on Windows, you can also use WinSCP for that. Another usefull way to send files to your om is to setup a bonjour (zeroconf) IM account in pidgin on your phone and another on your desktop and then use that to send files between them (particularly good if you have different installs with different ssh keys and you don't want to keep editing your known_hosts file). solar.george signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
On Tuesday 05 May 2009, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2009 22:44:49 +0200 Mile Davidovic david.moko.comun...@gmail.com wrote: Hello My understanding is next: - qt extended have support for CSD but quite rudimentary (these words are from qt extended documentation) - sample qt application works fine with CSD but only first time (they have problem with releasing resources) In general, OpenMoko is capable of working with CSD but my understanding is that CSD (at least on Qt) is not preferable working scenario. Regards Mile Hi Mile, I'm sorry, but I'm not really familiar with CSD calls, could you ellaborate? Circuit Switched Data, the original GSM data mode where the phone acts as a slow (9600) conventional modem. Later HSCSD increased the speed a bit by channel bonding. My k700i will let you select between analogue and ISDN modem behaviour, handy when calling an ISDN line as it doesn't need all the time consuming analogue negotiation when it connects. In theory it should be really simple to use; just configure ppp as if you were connecting to a serial modem. gsm0710muxd or equivalent may complicate this slightly, but I wouldn't expect it to be any worse than the current use of ppp for GPRS. That said, I haven't tried it. While GPRS is faster CSD has other advantages which may be critical in some cases. You can call into it, which may not be possible with GPRS as it is often hidden behind NAT. CDS also has lower, predictable latency whch made it the transport of choice for a GSM cryptophone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Compatibility between deb and opkg (Was: Ain't it funny..)
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:31:47PM +0200, Pander wrote: For better compatability between deb and opkg, I am still in favour of using the debian/ubuntu categories in opkg. See this thread from December: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-December/038472.html and http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-December/038546.html A significant incompatibility is that deb uses architectures 'armel' and 'any' while opkg uses 'armv4t' and 'all'. AFAIK there is no way of specifying to dpkg/apt that they are equivalent. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 13:19:53 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/5/5 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. or a hand-crank charger imo, this is a more reliable way of charging the battery - it'll work anywhere (in a building, underground, when it's raining), anytime (night) and is going to produce a bigger current than this size of solar panel does anyone know of any decent crank chargers that will output over usb? Some wind-up torches can charge mobile phones, I've emailed one place to see if they can tell me what power theirs can output but no reply yet. solar.george signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
On Tuesday 05 May 2009, Adam Jimerson wrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009 12:57:17 pm Sam Kuper wrote: There are various standards that define the kinds/amount of EMI that an electrical device must: (1) be able to cope with, and/or (2) not produce in excess of. It sounds like either your OM or your TV might not be fully compliant. It sounds like its his TV I just tried it with my OM and my Toshiba 21 inch LCD and the TV didn't turn off No interaction with my Panasonic either. On an OT note the Panasonic, along with most recent Sonys, is running linux. Is anyone aware of any custom TV firmware projects? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 21:20:56 jeremy jozwik wrote: go to the category Use OM.2008 GTK-Theme on http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks or try this opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/moko-gtk-theme_0.1 .0+svnr4734-r0_armv4t.opk opkg -force-depends install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/moko-gtk-engine_0. 1.0+svnr4734-r0_armv4t.opk echo include \/usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc\ /home/root/.gtkrc-2.0 - jeremy On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/5 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: fresh new shr-testing, I restored serenity too, but my apps are grey (like a classical gtk widget). Also an e17 like theme from the shr-devel list. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [Shr-devel] gtk theme e17 style Date: Wednesday 15 Apr 2009 From: Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com To: shr-devel shr-de...@projects.openmoko.org i discovered the following screenie at scap: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/071114f77f2687065a65f9d8a1f76bee.png it looks nice. since i am currently using shr unstable and the overall performance is tolerable - i am completely satisfied (it is called unstable, but it works a sexpected, although a little sluggish) i don't mind a littel speed impact my gtk apps are 17 bw styled. howto: 1) download http://www.suse-art.org/content/show.php/E17+B_and_W?content=95680 2) untar to /usr/share/themes 3) echo include \/usr/share/themes/B_and_W/gtk-2.0/gtkrc\ /home/root/.gtkrc-2.0 4) init 6 5) enjoy! br ___ Shr-devel mailing list shr-de...@projects.openmoko.org http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-devel --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/071114f77f2687065a65f9d8a1f76bee.png 404'd on me On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:40 AM, George Brooke solar.geo...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009 21:20:56 jeremy jozwik wrote: go to the category Use OM.2008 GTK-Theme on http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks or try this opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/moko-gtk-theme_0.1 .0+svnr4734-r0_armv4t.opk opkg -force-depends install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/moko-gtk-engine_0. 1.0+svnr4734-r0_armv4t.opk echo include \/usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc\ /home/root/.gtkrc-2.0 - jeremy On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/5 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: fresh new shr-testing, I restored serenity too, but my apps are grey (like a classical gtk widget). Also an e17 like theme from the shr-devel list. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [Shr-devel] gtk theme e17 style Date: Wednesday 15 Apr 2009 From: Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com To: shr-devel shr-de...@projects.openmoko.org i discovered the following screenie at scap: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/071114f77f2687065a65f9d8a1f76bee.png it looks nice. since i am currently using shr unstable and the overall performance is tolerable - i am completely satisfied (it is called unstable, but it works a sexpected, although a little sluggish) i don't mind a littel speed impact my gtk apps are 17 bw styled. howto: 1) download ht 2) untar to /usr/share/themes 3) echo include \/usr/share/themes/B_and_W/gtk-2.0/gtkrc\ /home/root/.gtkrc-2.0 4) init 6 5) enjoy! br ___ Shr-devel mailing list shr-de...@projects.openmoko.org http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-devel --- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 18:13 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery). On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed earlier, i would be only interested in 2 of them:, the SC019 and the SC020, mainly because these are the only ones which has internal battery with a capacity = 3000Ah Yeah, I have checked with them again. They have larger capacity 3.0/3.5/4.0A wow, 4Ah, do you have any links? They told me that they have 3.0/3.5 samples. And they can change to 4 Ah battery, easily. The mechanical design is the same. I'm afraid they didn't have web page update. I'll keep contacting with them for price/spec, etc. If there is any news, I'll keep the thread update. Chris -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
shr-config
Today I flashed shr-unstable. And I wanted to install shr-config. But this is what i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install shr-config Collected errors: * Cannot find package shr-config. r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list |grep shr-config r...@om-gta02 ~ $ Has shr-config changed the name? It's not in the repository? I liked it, and how it was progressing Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 23:33 +0100, George Brooke wrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009 13:19:53 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/5/5 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. or a hand-crank charger imo, this is a more reliable way of charging the battery - it'll work anywhere (in a building, underground, when it's raining), anytime (night) and is going to produce a bigger current than this size of solar panel does anyone know of any decent crank chargers that will output over usb? Some wind-up torches can charge mobile phones, I've emailed one place to see if they can tell me what power theirs can output but no reply yet. I think the theory might be the same. solar board charge internal battery, and then battery charge phone. crank output charge internal battery, and then battery charge phone. The question is how much mAh crank output and how much time it take to charge the internal battery. :) solar.george ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:16:06PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: When installing opk/ipk packages from e.g. http://www.opkg.org/, there will be problems with unmet dependencies because Debian uses other package names for some of the packages providing the dependencies. I've created a few small packages which create a mapping of the package names so tricks like --force-depends/--ignore-depends should not be necessary. See: http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/ [snip] Also, it would probably be preferable for those packages to have a name that makes it clear that they're not real. E.g. you might call them something like adapter-opkg-foo, and then have them provide the required feature. I would if APT supported it. Unfortunately, the APT support for Provides: is buggy enough that it only works for packages which are already installed, and I'm hoping to eventually be able to do something like # apt-install-package-file http://www.opkg.org/package.opk and have APT install the dependencies automatically (including having them marked as such). -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
where to get qi from? wiki has conflicting information. and, why is 2009 not listed in distros?
1) Where is qi? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Installation says http://people.openmoko.org/andy/ but http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 says http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ which is right? Tell me and I'll correct the wiki. 2) 2009 not described in download page Is there a reason that 2009 is not referenced in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download I know it's still under development but it should still be listed. If there are no objections I'll write a paragraph and link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] emacs package
Roland Whitehead rol...@quru.com writes: It's been asked before but I can't find any references to a package for emacs. Does such exist? If not, how can I get emacs running - doesn't need to be xemacs as I'm quite happy to run it either in terminal or via a remote session. I install joe (http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/joe_3.1-r1_armv4t.opk) which includes jmacs an emacs-like editor. TIA Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: where to get qi from? wiki has conflicting information. and, why is 2009 not listed in distros?
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org wrote: 1) Where is qi? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Installation says http://people.openmoko.org/andy/ but http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 says http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ which is right? Tell me and I'll correct the wiki. Hello Michael, thanks for your concern. I just put the latest Qi in this URI. http://people.openmoko.org/arhuaco/qi/latest/ I think distributors will pick the revision they feel comfortable with and it does not have to be the latest. If the latest Qi can be built automatically with existing infrastructure it will be better. I'll ask Angus and send an update as a reply to this email. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
On Tue, 5 May 2009 11:56:37 +0300 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/5 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: fresh new shr-testing, I restored serenity too, but my apps are grey (like a classical gtk widget). Is there btw a current URL to screenshots of serenity? I'd be interested to see. -Timo The screenshots at scap.linuxtogo.org eventually 'fall off the end' as they are replaced by newer screenshot uploads. I've not been working much on Serenity the past few weeks, (so many other things demanding time and attention, like family and work ;) but by this weekend I'll try to have a new ipk for the latest state of it, plus new screenshots. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: where to get qi from? wiki has conflicting information. and, why is 2009 not listed in distros?
I'm not looking for Qi, but I'm asking where should we tell people to find Qi. Will it always be there? Should I change both references on the wiki to point at your directory? Nelson Castillo wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org wrote: 1) Where is qi? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Installation says http://people.openmoko.org/andy/ but http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 says http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ which is right? Tell me and I'll correct the wiki. Hello Michael, thanks for your concern. I just put the latest Qi in this URI. http://people.openmoko.org/arhuaco/qi/latest/ I think distributors will pick the revision they feel comfortable with and it does not have to be the latest. If the latest Qi can be built automatically with existing infrastructure it will be better. I'll ask Angus and send an update as a reply to this email. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: where to get qi from? wiki has conflicting information. and, why is 2009 not listed in distros?
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org wrote: I'm not looking for Qi, but I'm asking where should we tell people to find Qi. That is what I understood. Will it always be there? Should I change both references on the wiki to point at your directory? Not yet, let me coordinate first please. I'll update this thread soon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
