Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)
Thanks for you reply! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: the only cache is a runtime cache in ram - none on disk. and restart of e (including its own restart) will completely rebuild it from disk. it does monitor files and on changes, reads them. there could be a race condition with a partially written file by the time e reads it. so chances are... your command is just wrong. if it can change the name - its loading all the fields, and then running them. e may have a different $PATH in its environment than your shell remember, so use full paths to be explicit. I specified the full path. I will post the .desktop file later today. If I quit from paroli (using the illume bar), I cant relaunch it anymore. Just if I kill -HUP enlightenment. After that will start paroli. (I get a loading screen). So I need to kill enlightenment each time I quit paroli. Rather strange. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi c_c Sorry if I already asked the question : would it be possible to release a debian deb package for intone ? I know there are other possibilities, but your soft is very handy... Thanks in advance Kimaidou 2009/5/7 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com Hi, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: but I still get the black page bug. This is quite strange since I only get this behavior with this elementary application I cant seem to replicate this. Of course, in all probability, it must be something I'm doing wrong :-). Can you - if you have the time - go through the init code and see what could be off? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.40---beta-pre-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2826039.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
Yes, nice explanation. CSD is used as preferable scenario for transporting crypted voice. Regards Mile On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2009 22:44:49 +0200 Mile Davidovic david.moko.comun...@gmail.com wrote: Hello My understanding is next: - qt extended have support for CSD but quite rudimentary (these words are from qt extended documentation) - sample qt application works fine with CSD but only first time (they have problem with releasing resources) In general, OpenMoko is capable of working with CSD but my understanding is that CSD (at least on Qt) is not preferable working scenario. Regards Mile Hi Mile, I'm sorry, but I'm not really familiar with CSD calls, could you ellaborate? Circuit Switched Data, the original GSM data mode where the phone acts as a slow (9600) conventional modem. Later HSCSD increased the speed a bit by channel bonding. My k700i will let you select between analogue and ISDN modem behaviour, handy when calling an ISDN line as it doesn't need all the time consuming analogue negotiation when it connects. In theory it should be really simple to use; just configure ppp as if you were connecting to a serial modem. gsm0710muxd or equivalent may complicate this slightly, but I wouldn't expect it to be any worse than the current use of ppp for GPRS. That said, I haven't tried it. While GPRS is faster CSD has other advantages which may be critical in some cases. You can call into it, which may not be possible with GPRS as it is often hidden behind NAT. CDS also has lower, predictable latency whch made it the transport of choice for a GSM cryptophone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, kimaidou wrote: would it be possible to release a debian deb package for intone ? Yup. Debian package too coming this time :-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.40---beta-pre-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2826536.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
Hello I will try to help as much as possible and if ever I produce stable and bulletproof SW for CSD on QtExtended I will share my work. Regards Mile On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.bewrote: On Tue, 5 May 2009 22:44:49 +0200 Mile Davidovic david.moko.comun...@gmail.com wrote: Hello My understanding is next: - qt extended have support for CSD but quite rudimentary (these words are from qt extended documentation) - sample qt application works fine with CSD but only first time (they have problem with releasing resources) In general, OpenMoko is capable of working with CSD but my understanding is that CSD (at least on Qt) is not preferable working scenario. Regards Mile Hi Mile, I'm sorry, but I'm not really familiar with CSD calls, could you ellaborate? Also, it seems you've done some research in this. Care to join the development of QtEi for this part? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
roby wrote: sorry for continuing the ot, but.. i always dreamt of a tv adblocker, anybody know of some project in this direction? The easy way is to get a harddisk recorder/receiver, capable of pausing tv. When your movie/show/sport event begins, just pause it. Then, wait about as long as a commercial breaks usually is, before resuming and watching the movie slightly timeshifted. When an ad comes, just fast-forward past it. :-) An additional advantage is that you can pause the tv anytime, if you get a phonecall for example. And of course, recording stuff to watch at a completely different time. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PS3 Linux [was - Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV]
roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: On 6/05/2009 6:39 PM, Yorick Moko wrote: have you tried pairing yourn FR to the ps3 to use it as a controller/keyboard/music(or picture)streamer/whatever ? Since I left my FR out in the rain, I haven't done much with it. Surprisingly, it still works ... but the touch area of the shelf doesn't function. So I can boot, take a call but as soon as I load an app I can't go back etc. I've been meaning to throw the debian sd card back in Just turn the display upside down using xrandr, then the shelf is placed in a touch area that works. Or perhaps 90 degrees. Try it out with the terminal. If it works well, add the command to some startup script so it happens automatically. It is still fully useable if you connect a usb mouse (and enable the X cursor, which is easy.) But you probably don't want to use a phone with a mouse. :-) Also consider taking the display apart for cleaning. Water quickly cause corrotion wherever there is electricity. Might be worth a try taking the display off and cleaning with something like alcohol. Alcohol dissolves any water left over, it doesn't conduct electricity, and lefover alcohol evaporate quickly. If you get rid of any trapped water and corroded gunk, then the touchscreen might improve. There is the risk of breaking the thing further, but it seems sufficiently broken alredy. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PS3 Linux [was - Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV]
2009/5/7 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: It is still fully useable if you connect a usb mouse (and enable the X cursor, which is easy.) But you probably don't want to use a phone with a mouse. :-) you could always add a trackpad, maybe on the back case? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge
2009/5/7 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org Correct - usbdevstat allows 100mA, 500mA, 1A, and suspend (Tbl. 98, MBCC7), anyway... Setting chg_curlim won't help whatsoever, as you can set it only during device powered up and system running, and during this time the system consumption USB-to-SYS will add to the chg_curlim you set. So you exceed intended USB current by setting chg_curlim to the value you intend for USB current, just to shutdown device after that and hope to reach 'correct' USB current then eventually - that's silly. In my case I used setting chg_curlim also for when phone is on. Yes chg_curlim does not help to force usb real current to ie. 750m exactly. But ! This way I could have my phone use approx 750mA when on (by setting chg_curlim to 500mA). Of course it may sometimes consume up to 1A if needed (the peaks I was talking about...). But this is ok in my case for my weak dumb charger. What would not be ok is having chg_curlim not forced and phone pulling 1A for 30 minutes continuously while charging the battery faster than I need... (And usb_curlim to 500mA would on the other hand not charge quickly enough (about 300mA).) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
I have tried the 0.40 (*) version on shr-unstable and all works good as expected :) Petr * http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2825510/intone_0.40-pre_arm.ipk On Wed, 6 May 2009 18:03:09 -0700 (PDT) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com (C) wrote: Hi, Robin Paulson wrote: Do you want id3 tags in the list too? oh, in that case, i'm not that keen on adding it. i like how it's nice and responsive at the moment, even on slow hardware I'm still considering this. Will investigate the actual performance hit after this weekend's release. If it is acceptable at the time of the initial scan, I'll include this in a later release. Robin Paulson wrote: oh, i see. got you. is there a global mixer for doing this? Yup, I'll just use amixer to set the values. Robin Paulson wrote: can you make the play button change to a pause symbol when it's playing? Already Done. Ok. So here's what's done. * Bass and treble sliders * better sizes (imo) * dbus integration - prevent suspens and pause on incoming call * alternate ciew with id3 and album art * default icon if no album art exists * some clean ups * icon change of play button to pause when playing In process * saving and restoring system volume, bass and treble settings for exit and pause * album art icon sizing * getting song info for the alternate view when not playing * scanning files without extension crash Should be done by the weekend. One more thing, since now SHR, OM 2009 (unstable) and FSO all use the newer e libraries, I'm thinking of moving over to them. Just wanted to know if there are people still using older distributions - in which case I'll have to release 2 diff packages. For those on the newer libraries - a pre-release version is attached below. Just wanted to get some early feedback on the dbus stuff mainly - as also any other relevant points. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.30---beta-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2825510.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz -- Petr Vanek Customer Service Representative ROBE lighting s. r. o. TECHNICAL CENTER Palackeho 416 757 01 Valasske Mezirici Czech Republic Cell: +420 723 452 980 Fax : +420 571 669 255 E-mail: petr.va...@robe.cz http://www.robe.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] kernel with working g_ether to Windoze connection?
Vasco Névoa wrote: I would, but I don't think my employer would agree. :) I use nothing but FLOSS everywhere, except of course at work, where I have to use the official workstation software... :P And it is very handy to hack the latest tweaks on my neo while waiting for a compilation to finish... ;) Right now, the Neo is networkless with SHR-testing in a Windows environment: - wifi is no good; - bluetooth way too complicated; - USB doesn't work; - GPRS stalls and doesn't allow opkg update, so forget upgrade SO GIMME THE WORKIN KERNEL ALREADY!!! :D I just find it strange all this back and forth, one version it works, the next it doesn't, then it works again, then not is that patch so difficult to keep alive?? When you use testing/unstable, you are part of the development. You are using stuff that is *not* regression tested before releasing. The stable distribution will likely be better in this respect, but stable hasn't happened yet. You can at least get wifi back by using a 2.6.28 kernel (available as older kernel images). This apparently works well with the latest testing, - if you also install the package with modules for that kernel. If you skip the modules, some other things (sound++) will fail. wifi will be back regardless. Also, USB networking works fine with the later kernels that break wifi, so any networking fix will need to be done on the windows machine. Linux (on the PC) also needed a change in the usb networking setup when the phone got a 2.6.29 kernel. So I expect that windows users need to do something too. This will likely not be reverted. As explained elswhere, the phone is now reporting the correct assigned MAC address for its usb network interface, it was wrong before. A networking setup that expects the old mac address will fail, so just change it! I guess other windows users can help you out with the details on how this is done? Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, Petr Vanek wrote: I have tried the 0.40 (*) version on shr-unstable and all works good as expected :) Thanks. Hope the playing song resumes correctly on call hang up. Any other feedback? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.40---beta-pre-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2826812.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Yup. Debian package too coming this time :-) -- GREAAT, thx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth headsets in FSO
Paul Fertser ha scritto: DJDAS dj...@djdas.net writes: Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto: Framework already supports BT headsets. The fact GUI is missing shows the lack of interest from end-users, well, i think it'll change soon. hmm ... I thought end-users were people actually using the phone, not unix-hackers ... That's why I wrote it ;) It's very nice you work on it. Too bad you use a dead-born deprecated distro ;) Well, to be honest I'm a maintainer of a distro called FDTF based on Om2008.9+FDOM(September version) I customized for the Italian community at http://forum.telefoninux.org. I still use it because it's quite stable, telephony works (little qtopia bugs but it's daily usable) and with the community suggestions I added various customizations in the startup scripts, keyboards, themes and so on. I'm stuck with it because I have no much time to re-test everything in FSO-based distros and I don't like their telephony-PIM (qtopia IMHO still rocks hard). So this is my development environment with pros cons obviously, but I think it's better to have a daily quite stable phone rather than something updated but quite unusable, I'll wait for real stable releases with no one who wants to recreate the wheel from scratch after something goes wrong at the end of the job ;) As Franky already mentioned, bluez3 and bluez4 interfaces are completely different, so porting won't be that easy :-/ No probs ;) It's just a matter of code One of the reasons FSO integrates functionality of powering and resetting devices is exactly that. Higher level app devs shouldn't be bothered with kernel changes, FSO quickly adopts to it and you receive all updates free. In fact, you might like the idea of FSO, take a look at specs ;) Oh, I know and appreciate FSO way but I need something really stable and working, not something randomly working after an update :P Seriously: as I said above I'll make BlueMoko compatible with FSO but for my daily use I'll stick with my FDTF until a real stable working out-of-the-box distro will be released ;) Thanks you, bye! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Tue, 5 May 2009, Petr Vanek wrote: Hi Angus, thank you for the info and hard work. hear, here. i had begun to fear that work had completely stopped on 2009 - but this is clearly not so! I have been testing paroli every two to three weeks (regularly i use shr). today i have flashed the testing release 2 image and used it this afternoon. the testing release seems to be full of new features. i flashed it to nand, i use qi. i have also flashed testing release 2 (1.5.2009, the paroli image) and am using it as my main phone (this may seem unwise, but i'd managed to roach 2008.12 so badly that qpe reliably crashed within 60s of rebooting the phone). i'd rather put my effort into going forward than replicating the past. where would you like us to report bugs? here, or is there a tracker? and what about things which are not necessarily bugs (ie, possible RFEs)? two times (huh, now again.. so three times) the tele crashed during phone call (call did not get disconnected so i could finish it.) then paroli restart or neo restart... i'm getting this, both with calls made and calls received. what can i provide that will help diagnose this? i never really understood the time changing by pressing the AUX button... and how do you set alarm time? now there's an interesting feature! autosuspend although enabled did not work, autodim does work i also find this. Bugs fixed Power button does not shutdown device not for me :) ditto. i still have it on so i can do more tests if necessary... and i'll have it on for a while. is there any documentation on the format of the paroil address book so i can try to get my contacts over in bulk? -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 10:50:48 schrieb kimaidou: Yup. Debian package too coming this time :-) -- GREAAT, thx So you got an elementary and python-elm package for Debian?! That'd be awsum, u knoez... ;) -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:05 AM, roby hariseldo...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for continuing the ot, but.. i always dreamt of a tv adblocker, anybody know of some project in this direction? http://compression.ru/video/tv_commercial_detector/index_en.html http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/How_to_write_a_new_method_of_commercial_detection KP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] kernel with working g_ether to Windoze connection?
Thanks, Paul. I ended up upgrading from shr-testing to shr-unstable, and the problems are gone. So, the non-functional kernel+g_ether must have been: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02.bin And the current working one is: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119805+f656a97d946a2529630c9770a72c10a24dc397f9-r3.4-om-gta02.bin I was just surprised to see the problem getting fixed and lost and refixed at least 2 times in a row. It feels like someone made a patch and it just doesn't stick - maybe it didn't make it upstream and sometimes it isn't appllied? I don't know the kernel source stream from vanilla down to SHR, so I'm talking out of my... imagination. ;) Anyway, I'm glad it is solved, and I hope it doesn't come back so easily again. Citando Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Vasco Nevoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes: Why don't you just specify which kernel revision works and which doesn't? How any kernel dev is supposed to solve your problems if you even don't properly describe it? Why don't you use the kernel that worked on your FR in the meantime? If I knew, I wouldn't have a problem, would I? :) At least you know the date (and the place you downloaded) the kernel had no problems and the problematic revision you use now, but you don't specify it. The kernel commit that finally fixed RNDIS issues was f63e59c84aa21d2745f115209bf949eca27008b1 and it was added to andy-tracking branch on Mar 16. I don't see anything related since then. Since you don't specify what revision you use now, i'm unable to even say if your rev includes the commit or not. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mokomaze as non-root
The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com writes: Not sure what all issues you're experiencing, but the accelerometers are probably root:root access only (they are on mine, SHR-unstable), if that's your problem. You can probably chmod them manually, but I'm sure you can mod some conf somewhere to change it. Not sure what... The largest problem are those /sys files, you can't change their permissions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] emacs package
On 6 May 2009, at 16:04, Stefan Monnier wrote: It's been asked before but I can't find any references to a package for Emacs. Does such exist? If not, how can I get Emacs running - If you run Debian on your FR, then you can just aptitude install emacs. Even easier - from within your terminal app run: opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/emacs_22.3-r0_armv 4t.ipk It takes a bit of time to install but when its there, there is no problem at all - works as it should Now to install fso-el: http://wiki.wjsullivan.net/collaboration.cgi/FsoEl Roland -- Quru Ltd, London ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
c_c wrote: Hi, Well, it took a lot longer than I thought - but finally - here's the alpha release of Intone - a mplayer frontend (for audio files - as of now) in C. Uses about 2% CPU (max) while running - memory goes up depending on your playlist - on my phone (~2500 songs) it uses about 15%. All you need to do is download the attached ipk and install it. Intone depends on sqlite3 and libelementary. If you have elementary on your phone upgraded to a level where the elementary test application shows you a demo of sliders and genlists, Intone should run on your phone. The recommended way to organise music is to put all the files in a folder (lets say Music), with sub folders named after artists (say Music -Eagles) and with sub sub folders holding albums (that becomes Music-Eagles-Hell Freezes Over-*.mp3). That way, Intone can correctly organise your music collection into albums. It automatically creates a default playlist containing all songs and individual playlists for each album. I have added features to manage playlists and albums - but there is always scope for improvement. Intone uses a sqlite database as a backend for the playlists and albums. That should, hopefully, give flexibility in adding more features later. Hi, hum.. stupid question: Where do you get the dependencies from? (mplayer, codecs, etc...). I'm using OM 2009 testing release 2. Thanks, Chris Things that don't work as of now :- 1. Feedback. - I haven't been able to add dialogs yet. So - wait a little while for Intone to finish long operations (like adding your music collection for the first time - my 2500 odd songs took about 6 secs - the button remains pressed too) 2. Dialogs for deleting stuff. It's safe - Intone does not delete any files - but it does delete tables(albums and playlists) - and it doesn't yet ask for confirmation. 3. Seek. Dont know how to use the slider for seeking. Any Ideas? 4. DBUS. - Haven't gotten around to learning edbus - so no occupy resouce CPU or pause on incoming calls yet. Will take some more time. 5. Album art and lyrics. - Don't yet know the best way to go about doing this other than downloading art from some retailers etc. Ideas welcome. 6. Toggle View. Not working yet. I intend having 2 more views - Album Art and Lyrics. I'm also looking at adding support for the button that the standard handsfree has - as a volume control (3 preselcted levels in rotation) or to go to next song (1 click) and prev song (2 clicks). Any suggestions? Since I also have half a podcast manager built (which I couldn't finish in time for the competition) - I'm also looking at adding that support in the future. Feedback Required 1. Bug reports. 2. Artwork - Ideas / png's / whatever 3. Elementary help. I have a lot of questions. Here are a few :- a) How do I reduce the vert height of 1 entry in the genlist? Right now each line in the list is too high (almost 3 text lines high) - so I get only about 4 song names on the screen. Can I reduce the height to say 1.5 text line - 2 text line? b) How do I use the pager with a genlist? In my case the pager works - but it doesn't show the genlist - the buttons all show up though. c) Dialogs and progress bars. I know elementary doesn't have them - but can I make/have a simple ty solution for the time being? Oh! And I'm only adding .oga, .mp3, .m4a and wma files into the albums. Any other types I need to add? I'll upload the code to intone.googlecode.com soon. All feedback welcome. Thanks. intone_0.20_arm.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 10:23 +0100, Tom Yates wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2009, Petr Vanek wrote: Hi Angus, thank you for the info and hard work. +1 SNIP i also find this. Bugs fixed Power button does not shutdown device not for me :) ditto. +1 i still have it on so i can do more tests if necessary... and i'll have it on for a while. is there any documentation on the format of the paroil address book so i can try to get my contacts over in bulk? I have a +/- 3 pixel band on the top with random noise and colors. Is it possible to add the use of the aux button to the wiki? I discovered it by accident. Could you make a manual on the wiki on how to use paroli? It is not all that intuitive. I made my phone dual boot now, if i like to hack i boot gentoo from SD card. if i need a phone that just works, i boot paroli. for now it is 90% gentoo and 10% paroli, due to missing features as GPS app, gprs, browser, mail client, etc. But then again perhaps it is best to have a stable phone and take it from there. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
it won't run here: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2825510/intone_0.40-pr e_arm.ipk Downloading http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2825510/intone_0.40-pre_arm.ipk Multiple packages (intone and intone) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (intone and intone) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Upgrading intone on root from 0.30 to 0.40-pre... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for intone: * elementary * r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2825510/intone_0.40-pr e_arm.ipk -force-depends Downloading http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2825510/intone_0.40-pre_arm.ipk Multiple packages (intone and intone) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (intone and intone) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Upgrading intone on root from 0.30 to 0.40-pre... Configuring intone Collected errors: * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for intone: * elementary * r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 intone intone: error while loading shared libraries: libehal-ver-pre-01.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie wrote: c_c wrote: Hi, Well, it took a lot longer than I thought - but finally - here's the alpha release of Intone - a mplayer frontend (for audio files - as of now) in C. Uses about 2% CPU (max) while running - memory goes up depending on your playlist - on my phone (~2500 songs) it uses about 15%. All you need to do is download the attached ipk and install it. Intone depends on sqlite3 and libelementary. If you have elementary on your phone upgraded to a level where the elementary test application shows you a demo of sliders and genlists, Intone should run on your phone. The recommended way to organise music is to put all the files in a folder (lets say Music), with sub folders named after artists (say Music -Eagles) and with sub sub folders holding albums (that becomes Music-Eagles-Hell Freezes Over-*.mp3). That way, Intone can correctly organise your music collection into albums. It automatically creates a default playlist containing all songs and individual playlists for each album. I have added features to manage playlists and albums - but there is always scope for improvement. Intone uses a sqlite database as a backend for the playlists and albums. That should, hopefully, give flexibility in adding more features later. Hi, hum.. stupid question: Where do you get the dependencies from? (mplayer, codecs, etc...). I'm using OM 2009 testing release 2. Thanks, Chris Things that don't work as of now :- 1. Feedback. - I haven't been able to add dialogs yet. So - wait a little while for Intone to finish long operations (like adding your music collection for the first time - my 2500 odd songs took about 6 secs - the button remains pressed too) 2. Dialogs for deleting stuff. It's safe - Intone does not delete any files - but it does delete tables(albums and playlists) - and it doesn't yet ask for confirmation. 3. Seek. Dont know how to use the slider for seeking. Any Ideas? 4. DBUS. - Haven't gotten around to learning edbus - so no occupy resouce CPU or pause on incoming calls yet. Will take some more time. 5. Album art and lyrics. - Don't yet know the best way to go about doing this other than downloading art from some retailers etc. Ideas welcome. 6. Toggle View. Not working yet. I intend having 2 more views - Album Art and Lyrics. I'm also looking at adding support for the button that the standard handsfree has - as a volume control (3 preselcted levels in rotation) or to go to next song (1 click) and prev song (2 clicks). Any suggestions? Since I also have half a podcast manager built (which I couldn't finish in time for the competition) - I'm also looking at adding that support in the future. Feedback Required 1. Bug reports. 2. Artwork - Ideas / png's / whatever 3. Elementary help. I have a lot of questions. Here are a few :- a) How do I reduce the vert height of 1 entry in the genlist? Right now each line in the list is too high (almost 3 text lines high) - so I get only about 4 song names on the screen. Can I reduce the height to say 1.5 text line - 2 text line? b) How do I use the pager with a genlist? In my case the pager works - but it doesn't show the genlist - the buttons all show up though. c) Dialogs and progress bars. I know elementary doesn't have them - but can I make/have a simple ty solution for the time being? Oh! And I'm only adding .oga, .mp3, .m4a and wma files into the albums. Any other types I need to add? I'll upload the code to intone.googlecode.com soon. All feedback welcome. Thanks. intone_0.20_arm.ipk
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: hum.. stupid question: Where do you get the dependencies from? (mplayer, codecs, etc...). I'm using OM 2009 testing release 2. Well, to get mplayer just do a 'opkg install mplayer'. mplayer includes all codecs it supports. There is an optimised version of mplayer (by paulTT) if you have a lot of ogg files here.[1] This will reduce CPU usage by about 50%. [1] http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.40---beta-pre-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2827184.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
is there any documentation on the format of the paroil address book so i can try to get my contacts over in bulk? It is in python pickle format I have been told. Look at ~/.paroli there is everything inside. (call logs, contacts, etc) If the call would work reliably I would be more than happy to use it as my daily phone. (sometimes I didnt get the call screen). And om2009 desperately need some love. For example remove the virtual desktop from illume bar. Cant imagine a usecase for this on a phone. Adapt the illume bar colors, icons to paroli, etc. Remove the application which does not start (Htop) Otherwise nice distro. Everything is inside what needed;) (paroli, terminal) This distro is so close to be a normal phone Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
Hi, Nice Job. Slick graphics and performance. If only the screen stopped blanking ... ;-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze-0.5.0--is-released-tp2754592p2827218.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: Is it possible to add the use of the aux button to the wiki? I discovered it by accident. Could you make a manual on the wiki on how to use paroli? It is not all that intuitive. I agree that the 2009 wiki page ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 ) should be updated and all these tips for new users should be definitely added. So everyone please, add your stuff there! r ps. there is a community effort to create a script to add the required apps hacks to 'plain' 2009 in http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX - it'll eventually be the kustomizer for 2009 (for kustomizer, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer ) - feel free to add your lines there.. -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo to be used as a WLAN phone connected to a Linux server with an ISDN card possible?
Hi, I am asking if it would be possible to use my Neo FreeRunner to be a phone to be used instead of an ISDN dect phone? I have a Linux server, but not tried any of this. If possible, what packages do I need (on FreeRunner and openSuSE Linux 11.1) Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
Hi, Podboy is a podcast aggregator/player written in Python/Elementary. Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly. It uses Feedparser Python module for download/parsing of podcast feeds, Gstreamer for playing of episodes and SQLite for storing data. It's still pretty alpha. Everything is subject to be changed, especially the database so it is possible you should lose your podcasts and yours settings with next releases. It requires a very recent version of python-elementary so I think Podboy can be run only under SHR :-( Features * Subscription, unsubscription (confirmation dialog) to podcasts * Check for new episodes * Download of a single episode or all available episodes * Delete an episode (confirmation dialog) * Player: play/pause/stop, mute, sliders for playing position of episodes and volume * Volume and playing positions of episodes are saved * Auto-suspend is disabled during playing * Playing is stopped on incoming GSM call TODO * Import/export of podcasts feeds (OPML format) * Management of played episodes * Automatic deletion of episodes older than x days * GUI improvements * ... Possible bugs * Freezing of the application after a suspend (Gstreamer problem ?) Suggestions/feedback/bug reports are welcome. Source is available at http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/podboy/ Screenshots: http://podboy.projects.openmoko.org/screenshots/ http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/816/podboy_0.0.1-r0_all.ipk Happy listening, -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo to be used as a WLAN phone connected to a Linux server with an ISDN card possible?
2009/5/7 Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: Hi, I am asking if it would be possible to use my Neo FreeRunner to be a phone to be used instead of an ISDN dect phone? I have a Linux server, but not tried any of this. If possible, what packages do I need (on FreeRunner and openSuSE Linux 11.1) Thanks Lothar For sure there are better solutions, but one that come up in my mind is to get an isdn card for your linux server supported by asterisk (zaptel?), and use some softphone on freerunner. Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo to be used as a WLAN phone connected to a Linux server with an ISDN card possible?
Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: I am asking if it would be possible to use my Neo FreeRunner to be a phone to be used instead of an ISDN dect phone? I have a Linux server, but not tried any of this. If possible, what packages do I need (on FreeRunner and openSuSE Linux 11.1) If asterisk can make calls using your ISDN line then this should be very easy. Just use linphone3 SIP client on FR and register to your asterisk. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge
Am Do 7. Mai 2009 schrieb Cédric Berger: 2009/5/7 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org Correct - usbdevstat allows 100mA, 500mA, 1A, and suspend (Tbl. 98, MBCC7), anyway... Setting chg_curlim won't help whatsoever, as you can set it only during device powered up and system running, and during this time the system consumption USB-to-SYS will add to the chg_curlim you set. So you exceed intended USB current by setting chg_curlim to the value you intend for USB current, just to shutdown device after that and hope to reach 'correct' USB current then eventually - that's silly. In my case I used setting chg_curlim also for when phone is on. Yes chg_curlim does not help to force usb real current to ie. 750m exactly. But ! This way I could have my phone use approx 750mA when on (by setting chg_curlim to 500mA). Of course it may sometimes consume up to 1A if needed (the peaks I was talking about...). But this is ok in my case for my weak dumb charger. What would not be ok is having chg_curlim not forced and phone pulling 1A for 30 minutes continuously while charging the battery faster than I need... (And usb_curlim to 500mA would on the other hand not charge quickly enough (about 300mA).) So you think the STANDARD kernel should care about this rather exotic case which isn't specified properly (how long would this charger see the 1A sometimes?) and needs massive care from userland anyway? I mean, there's some reason PCF50633 is built this way, huh? We got enough problems caring about real hw-glitches in this chip. I don't think it's recommendable to tweak it even further far beyond what's normal usecase. btw your concept isn't working as you said yourself the USB current is reset to 500mA on powerdown. So how could you charge with 750mA? If system is powered up odds are it will take away 250mA. On powerdown state it seems to me there's no way at all to charge with 750mA. I really don't see the rationale behind all this. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo to be used as a WLAN phone connected to a Linux server with an ISDN card possible?
Ok, thanks. I have a AVM Fritz PCI ISDN card that works with the answering machine and the fax software hylafax. So I'll give it a try. The Fritz is as lspci -v told: 00:0c.0 Network controller: AVM GmbH A1 ISDN [Fritz] (rev 02) Subsystem: AVM GmbH FRITZ!Card ISDN Controller Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 Memory at fdb0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32] I/O ports at 9000 [size=32] Kernel modules: hisax_fcpcipnp, hisax Would that work? Lothar Am 07.05.2009 um 13:27 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: I am asking if it would be possible to use my Neo FreeRunner to be a phone to be used instead of an ISDN dect phone? I have a Linux server, but not tried any of this. If possible, what packages do I need (on FreeRunner and openSuSE Linux 11.1) If asterisk can make calls using your ISDN line then this should be very easy. Just use linphone3 SIP client on FR and register to your asterisk. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mokomaze as non-root
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 12:44:20PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com writes: Not sure what all issues you're experiencing, but the accelerometers are probably root:root access only (they are on mine, SHR-unstable), if that's your problem. You can probably chmod them manually, but I'm sure you can mod some conf somewhere to change it. Not sure what... The largest problem are those /sys files, you can't change their permissions. What do you need them for? In OmNewRotate I use /dev/input/events3 and it always works regardless of kernel! Rui -- Kallisti! Today is Boomtime, the 54th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo to be used as a WLAN phone connected to a Linux server with an ISDN card possible?
2009/5/7 Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: Ok, thanks. I have a AVM Fritz PCI ISDN card that works with the answering machine and the fax software hylafax. So I'll give it a try. The Fritz is as lspci -v told: 00:0c.0 Network controller: AVM GmbH A1 ISDN [Fritz] (rev 02) Subsystem: AVM GmbH FRITZ!Card ISDN Controller Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 Memory at fdb0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32] I/O ports at 9000 [size=32] Kernel modules: hisax_fcpcipnp, hisax Would that work? Umh it may be with the capi channel, but cannot help further as I never had ISDN line/card, please test and reports :) Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo to be used as a WLAN phone connected to a Linux server with an ISDN card possible?
Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: 00:0c.0 Network controller: AVM GmbH A1 ISDN [Fritz] (rev 02) Subsystem: AVM GmbH FRITZ!Card ISDN Controller Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 Memory at fdb0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32] I/O ports at 9000 [size=32] Kernel modules: hisax_fcpcipnp, hisax Would that work? No idea, you need to google around I'm afraid. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mokomaze as non-root
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org writes: What do you need them for? In OmNewRotate I use /dev/input/events3 and it always works regardless of kernel! lindi1:~/debian/debian-mokomaze/mokomaze-0.5.0$ grep -r /sys src/*c src/accelerometers.c: fh = fopen(/sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/threshold, mode); src/accelerometers.c: fh = fopen(/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/lis302dl.2/threshold, mode); src/accelerometers.c: fh = fopen(/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/spi_s3c24xx_gpio.0/spi3.1/threshold, mode); src/vibro.c:fvibro = fopen(/sys/class/leds/neo1973:vibrator/brightness, w); src/vibro.c:fvibro = fopen(/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-vibrator.0/leds/neo1973:vibrator/brightness, w); ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
c_c wrote: Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: hum.. stupid question: Where do you get the dependencies from? (mplayer, codecs, etc...). I'm using OM 2009 testing release 2. Well, to get mplayer just do a 'opkg install mplayer'. mplayer includes all codecs it supports. hum doesn't work with om 2009, anyway, i followed the instructions at http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX, and now it's working! Thank you for your work, it looks cute! There is an optimised version of mplayer (by paulTT) if you have a lot of ogg files here.[1] This will reduce CPU usage by about 50%. [1] http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Detecting headset button press
arne anka wrote: fso framework detects headset plug-in and switches alsa stae accordingly -- why don't you have a look at fso, how they do that? In my qtopia-x11 version I've used this workaround [1] to do it. Maybe it helps. [1] http://dev.3v1n0.net/gitweb/?p=qtopia-x11.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce3bcd11addffab7c3b1050f33ed8e67b0505740 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
try this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 13:19 +0200, Valery Febvre wrote: It requires a very recent version of python-elementary so I think Podboy can be run only under SHR :-( Hi Valery, Om2009 is using a pretty recent version of python-elementary 40284, is that recent enough ? Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 10:23 +0100, Tom Yates wrote: where would you like us to report bugs? here, or is there a tracker? and what about things which are not necessarily bugs (ie, possible RFEs)? Please report them to https://docs.openmoko.org/trac and set the milestone to Om2009 two times (huh, now again.. so three times) the tele crashed during phone call (call did not get disconnected so i could finish it.) then paroli restart or neo restart... i'm getting this, both with calls made and calls received. what can i provide that will help diagnose this? This is fixed with the current unstable but some new issues have shown up. If you would like to test the fixes change the repo from testing to unstable. For now don't upgrade framework just opkg install paroli. Once the issues with the framework are sorted there will be a new image. i never really understood the time changing by pressing the AUX button... and how do you set alarm time? now there's an interesting feature! autosuspend although enabled did not work, autodim does work i also find this. Bugs fixed Power button does not shutdown device not for me :) ditto. I'm pretty sure I got my side of this fixed now ( again currently in unstable ). The current workaround is cp /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/paroli_rules.yaml /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/rules.yaml Thanks for testing Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Kustomizer for OM2009, see http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX
Hi there! As we're all waiting OM2009 [1] to become a stable release, we already started writing a bash script that will install all the coolest apps and hacks in a clean OM2009. The purpose of this is to help people easily fast to convert their barebone OM2009 to a phone/PDA/something. You're welcome to join writing the script, it's actually easier than you'd think. For instructions, code and more information, go to http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX Enjoy your freedom! r [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
Hi Ed, On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 12:18 +0200, Ed Kapitein wrote: I have a +/- 3 pixel band on the top with random noise and colors. That is from using qi. We'll check the theme to see if that can be fixed. Is it possible to add the use of the aux button to the wiki? I discovered it by accident. Could you make a manual on the wiki on how to use paroli? It is not all that intuitive. There are some basic hints at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 If you find any more hidden features they can be added there. I made my phone dual boot now, if i like to hack i boot gentoo from SD card. if i need a phone that just works, i boot paroli. for now it is 90% gentoo and 10% paroli, due to missing features as GPS app, gprs, browser, mail client, etc. But then again perhaps it is best to have a stable phone and take it from there. GPRS can be enabled from the settings app ( one of the AUX button uses ) If you change the paroli theme to illume ( in settings ) you can get all of the apps that you're used to. TangoGPS , browser (midori, dillo, fennec), claws mail. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 13:53 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: ps. there is a community effort to create a script to add the required apps hacks to 'plain' 2009 in http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX - it'll eventually be the kustomizer for 2009 (for kustomizer, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer ) - feel free to add your lines there.. callrec is in the feeds now so there shouldn't be any need to install it from an outside source. Is there a dictator recipe somewhere ? There are 4 apps that I would add to the feed if there were bitbake recipes for them pythm, woosh, intone and mokomaze. The players would need to to have mp3 support installed from outside the OM feeds. I'm also open to suggestions of other applications. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
Angus Ainslie wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 13:19 +0200, Valery Febvre wrote: It requires a very recent version of python-elementary so I think Podboy can be run only under SHR :-( Hi Valery, Om2009 is using a pretty recent version of python-elementary 40284, is that recent enough ? Yes. But auto-suspend and incoming GSM calls will be not handled. Currently, code requires ophonekitd which is only available under SHR (I think). I planned to look at ousaged for the next release. -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:02 +0200, pam dirac wrote: try this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! There is only one item for update OSM, how to config this program to update Google Maps? On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)
On Thu, 7 May 2009 08:01:10 +0200 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com said: Thanks for you reply! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: the only cache is a runtime cache in ram - none on disk. and restart of e (including its own restart) will completely rebuild it from disk. it does monitor files and on changes, reads them. there could be a race condition with a partially written file by the time e reads it. so chances are... your command is just wrong. if it can change the name - its loading all the fields, and then running them. e may have a different $PATH in its environment than your shell remember, so use full paths to be explicit. I specified the full path. I will post the .desktop file later today. If I quit from paroli (using the illume bar), I cant relaunch it anymore. Just if I kill -HUP enlightenment. After that will start paroli. (I get a loading screen). So I need to kill enlightenment each time I quit paroli. Rather strange. actually - did you make sure paroli ACTUALLY quit? that it didnt stay running and just iconify its window? -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 23:39 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: So I need to kill enlightenment each time I quit paroli. Rather strange. actually - did you make sure paroli ACTUALLY quit? that it didnt stay running and just iconify its window? Currently paroli won't quit. It backgrounds itself so it can catch calls and bring up the answer window ( this will configurable in the future ) Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....
On 24/04/09 03:16:21, wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wrote: ... Micro SD card does it support ? I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? Thx 8GB cards work fine. Might try a 16GB when the price comes down. Michael. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mokomaze as non-root
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 02:57:13PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org writes: What do you need them for? In OmNewRotate I use /dev/input/events3 and it always works regardless of kernel! lindi1:~/debian/debian-mokomaze/mokomaze-0.5.0$ grep -r /sys src/*c src/accelerometers.c: fh = fopen(/sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/threshold, mode); src/accelerometers.c: fh = fopen(/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/lis302dl.2/threshold, mode); src/accelerometers.c: fh = fopen(/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/spi_s3c24xx_gpio.0/spi3.1/threshold, mode); src/vibro.c:fvibro = fopen(/sys/class/leds/neo1973:vibrator/brightness, w); src/vibro.c:fvibro = fopen(/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-vibrator.0/leds/neo1973:vibrator/brightness, w); Ah oops, that's true :( Rui -- All Hail Discordia! Today is Boomtime, the 54th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)
On Thu, 07 May 2009 07:56:23 -0600 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org said: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 23:39 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: So I need to kill enlightenment each time I quit paroli. Rather strange. actually - did you make sure paroli ACTUALLY quit? that it didnt stay running and just iconify its window? Currently paroli won't quit. It backgrounds itself so it can catch calls and bring up the answer window ( this will configurable in the future ) and thats probably why it comes back up again. one of 2 things. 1. if iconified - e will match the command line to the .desktop file - or simply know that that .desktop file launched that app and thus running it again if the window for that app is still there should simply bring that window up again... or 2. paroli has its own session finding/handling so it finds the existing instance of itself and ipc's asking it to show its window again - much like firefox does or a whole bunch of apps these days can do. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
Valery Febvre wrote: Podboy is a podcast aggregator/player written in Python/Elementary. Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly. I've just seen the screenshots but the interface is very cool. Compliments ;) It uses Feedparser Python module for download/parsing of podcast feeds, I've not tried it, so I'm only figuring this, but not to block the interface you could use the ecore_con (ecore_file_download) functions to retrieve the data. Gstreamer for playing of episodes and SQLite for storing data. Is it gstreamer better than mplayer (from the performance point of view)? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery (both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? Regards, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net http://palfocus.oicp.net/ ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net http://palfocus.oicp.net/ ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: copy a file from smartphone to pc
Am Mi 6. Mai 2009 schrieb George Brooke: (particularly good if you have different installs with different ssh keys and you don't want to keep editing your known_hosts file. #!/bin/sh /sbin/ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 /sbin/route add -host 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0 #ssh to Neo without contantly being nagged about known_hosts ssh \ -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no \ -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null \ r...@192.168.0.202 #cheers #/j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
I have same request ;-) I'm in Canada Jim Ancona wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote: Am 28.04.2009 um 22:30 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: 2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/ export hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price is not yet clear (expected to be less than 30 EUR incl. shipment) because we are in intensive discussions with Openmoko how they can help to reduce this fee for you. Openmoko has given us now full support and therefore, we can reduce the fee dramatically. A bad news is that you have to cover 2 way shipment. But another good news is that Openmoko provides a free battery as a gift for each shipment. Can someone from Openmoko comment on whether there are plans to offer something similar outside the EU? I'm in the US, but I'm sure Freerunner users elsewhere are also interested. Jim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Debuzzing-tp2736682p2829163.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
Am Mi 6. Mai 2009 schrieb roguem...@roguewrt.org: Although they become redundant pretty quick in our circles, they are great for the non-technical. I just wish they would support some viable way of upgrading/flashing to support more codecs. I don't think I'll be seeing an rs232 port an LCD TV anytime soon :) 32LG3000 http://de.lge.com/products/model/detail/lcdtv_32lg3000.jhtml • 32“ (81cm) Bildschirmdiagonale • Bildschirmgröße 708 x 398mm im 16:9 Format • 1.366 x 768 Pixel Auflösung, 8 bit Farbauflösung • Spitzenhelligkeit 500cd/m² / Kontrastverhältnis 15.000:1 (dynamisch) • Film Mode (3:2 / 2:2 Pull Down), Just Scan, Eye Care, Fresh White • HDMI Deep-Color-Technologie • 1 DVB-T- analoger Hyperband-Tuner mit 8-Tage DVB-T EPG • Eingangssignale: VGA-SXGA, PAL / SECAM / NTSC, SDTV HDTV (480i, 480p, 576i, 576p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p mit 30fps, 60fps, 24fps und 50fps) • Invisible Speaker System • Clear-Voice-Technologie für kristallklaren Sound • SRS TruSurround XT Soundoptimierung • Expert Mode, ISF ready, AV Mode • Eingänge: PC, RS-232C, PC Audio, 2 Scart (1 x RGB), Video, S-Video, 3 HDMI ^^^ +USB (Service) (1.3) mit HDCP und SIMPLINK, Komponente (YUV), Kopfhöreranschluss • Gehäusefarbe: Pianolackdesign • + 20° drehbarer Standfuß • HD ready signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Speed of NAND flash vs. SD card (Was: Ain't it funny..)
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 07:12:25AM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It boots way faster that way anyway :) NAND flash ought to be a lot faster than Glamo's MMC interface. Where is the bug? FWIW, I tried a simple hdparm run on NOR flash, NAND flash and SD card: r...@debian-gta02:~# hdparm --direct -t /dev/mtdblock0 # NOR flash /dev/mtdblock0: Timing O_DIRECT disk reads:2 MB in 1.24 seconds = 1.61 MB/sec r...@debian-gta02:~# hdparm --direct -t /dev/mtdblock3 # NAND flash /dev/mtdblock3: Timing O_DIRECT disk reads:8 MB in 2.89 seconds = 2.77 MB/sec r...@debian-gta02:~# hdparm --direct -t /dev/mmcblk0# Glamo MMC /dev/mmcblk0: Timing O_DIRECT disk reads:8 MB in 3.46 seconds = 2.31 MB/sec -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) Regards, Juan Lucas __ De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
perhaps you should enable gps tracking and fill in those gaps : ) On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) Regards, Juan Lucas __ De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. I guess that doesn't really help you with your current problem, however, but hopefully you'll work something out. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) Regards, Juan Lucas __ De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Indeed: http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/13-Howto-contribute-to-OpenStreetMap.html Although I logged my tracks in TangoGPS, then converted them to GPX files using Prune: http://sourceforge.net/projects/prune-gps/ Before uploading to OSM. Works like a charm. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Online Petition gegen Internetsperren
Hallo, this mail is addressed to all german people they should read visit epetitionen.bundestag.de MfG Marian Kerler ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[H:1] connectivity
Hi List, I've been testing H:1 today and I could not find a way to use wifi nor GPRS from the list of apps . I could launch wifi-radar from the terminal but my AP uses WPA and wifi-radar is strange. It asks me for a driver to use WPA. is it ath6k? wpa_supplicant? regards, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2009-FSO-zhone] pyphonelog
I installed following: pyphonelog_0.16.3-r0_armv4t.ipk pyphonelogd_0.11.0_armv4t.ipk using the latest test fso-zhone jffs but when starting the application it crashes! Any hint to make it work? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] kernel with working g_ether to Windoze connection?
I am searching for a really olg 2.6.28 kernel... (and not a .28 mispelled that in fact it's a .29...) where can i find it? (I'm talking about something of the mid april...) thanks d Ps: wifi worked nicely on that, i just used some /etc/network/interfaces files and getted eth0 up from shr-setting panel... now it semms that with .29 kernels the interface is not really responding and i get kernel panics when insisting on ifup ifdown eth0 [sorry i can't be more precise since i haven't found the point where it breaks] 2009/5/7 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt Thanks, Paul. I ended up upgrading from shr-testing to shr-unstable, and the problems are gone. So, the non-functional kernel+g_ether must have been: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02.bin And the current working one is: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119805+f656a97d946a2529630c9770a72c10a24dc397f9-r3.4-om-gta02.bin I was just surprised to see the problem getting fixed and lost and refixed at least 2 times in a row. It feels like someone made a patch and it just doesn't stick - maybe it didn't make it upstream and sometimes it isn't appllied? I don't know the kernel source stream from vanilla down to SHR, so I'm talking out of my... imagination. ;) Anyway, I'm glad it is solved, and I hope it doesn't come back so easily again. Citando Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Vasco Nevoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes: Why don't you just specify which kernel revision works and which doesn't? How any kernel dev is supposed to solve your problems if you even don't properly describe it? Why don't you use the kernel that worked on your FR in the meantime? If I knew, I wouldn't have a problem, would I? :) At least you know the date (and the place you downloaded) the kernel had no problems and the problematic revision you use now, but you don't specify it. The kernel commit that finally fixed RNDIS issues was f63e59c84aa21d2745f115209bf949eca27008b1 and it was added to andy-tracking branch on Mar 16. I don't see anything related since then. Since you don't specify what revision you use now, i'm unable to even say if your rev includes the commit or not. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] connectivity
On Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 18.21:22 Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Hi List, I've been testing H:1 today and I could not find a way to use wifi nor GPRS from the list of apps . I could launch wifi-radar from the terminal but my AP uses WPA and wifi-radar is strange. It asks me for a driver to use WPA. is it ath6k? wpa_supplicant? regards, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community in which distro? on shr i would use mofi.. it's not very stable, but it works lot of times.. the driver should be already installed.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
There is no bitbake recipe for dictator so far. Unfortunately! And I think there won't be, cause I don't know how to make one and I ain't got the time to get used to it. So, is there someone who can do that? It won't be too hard, for it's just a python-something. Angus Ainslie schrieb: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 13:53 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: ps. there is a community effort to create a script to add the required apps hacks to 'plain' 2009 in http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX - it'll eventually be the kustomizer for 2009 (for kustomizer, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer ) - feel free to add your lines there.. callrec is in the feeds now so there shouldn't be any need to install it from an outside source. Is there a dictator recipe somewhere ? There are 4 apps that I would add to the feed if there were bitbake recipes for them pythm, woosh, intone and mokomaze. The players would need to to have mp3 support installed from outside the OM feeds. I'm also open to suggestions of other applications. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] connectivity
Vinzenz Hersche escribió: On Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 18.21:22 Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Hi List, I've been testing H:1 today and I could not find a way to use wifi nor GPRS from the list of apps . I could launch wifi-radar from the terminal but my AP uses WPA and wifi-radar is strange. It asks me for a driver to use WPA. is it ath6k? wpa_supplicant? regards, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community in which distro? Hackable:1 (H:1), and I don't know if mofi works with it, since it comes preinstalled with wifi-radar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 18:41 +0200, matthias wrote: There is no bitbake recipe for dictator so far. Unfortunately! And I think there won't be, cause I don't know how to make one and I ain't got the time to get used to it. So, is there someone who can do that? It won't be too hard, for it's just a python-something. If it uses distutils the recipe is almost trivial Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
the most i remember seeing was a command that limited the update intervals. faster updates for traveling quickly, slower for slow movement. cant say i remember where i read that though On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: it can get a bit noisy when walking though Which reminds me (getting OT now though), did anything ever come of the various GPS modes that the chipset supports? Last I remember you could issue a command to indicate if you where walking / in a car. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Joseph Reeves wrote: I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. How about quality of data, I mean, for instance if you have to backtrack in a road, will you have to delete the log and restart all over? How about connecting two pieces of log? What about changing direction 90º; if walking (or even biking or car), in reality you are not doing 90º, will be doing a diagonal or a curve, but one wants to provide to OSM a 90º road connection. Essentially I'm trying to understand how burdensome (or not) it can become for a simple sightseeing to also do tracking. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
no burden whats so ever. i just set it and forget it. if you want to modify or string log files all you need to is open the log file in any text editor and copy paste delete what have you. quality and accuracy are surprisingly good from what i have seen. only thing that messes me up are large concrete buildings or high rises in downtown areas. if you have an OSM account take a look at my gpstraces. all done with the openmoko and tangoGPS http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jerjozwik/traces On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. How about quality of data, I mean, for instance if you have to backtrack in a road, will you have to delete the log and restart all over? How about connecting two pieces of log? What about changing direction 90º; if walking (or even biking or car), in reality you are not doing 90º, will be doing a diagonal or a curve, but one wants to provide to OSM a 90º road connection. Essentially I'm trying to understand how burdensome (or not) it can become for a simple sightseeing to also do tracking. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] connectivity
On Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 18.42:12 Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Vinzenz Hersche escribió: On Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 18.21:22 Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Hi List, I've been testing H:1 today and I could not find a way to use wifi nor GPRS from the list of apps . I could launch wifi-radar from the terminal but my AP uses WPA and wifi-radar is strange. It asks me for a driver to use WPA. is it ath6k? wpa_supplicant? regards, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community in which distro? Hackable:1 (H:1), and I don't know if mofi works with it, since it comes preinstalled with wifi-radar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ah, sry, didn't realise the h:1 :s i think, at this time is wifi-radar the best, but i read, there should be wifid or something like..this is also in the h:1-installation (i couldn't start the h:1-part now, because i copy some great files to the card).. it's more fingerfriendly, but doesn't work for me, maybe for you or with update? but i also think, marcus bauer knows more about this.. :) greets ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
it does not. But i can make it use it in the next release. just wait. matthias Angus Ainslie schrieb: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 18:41 +0200, matthias wrote: There is no bitbake recipe for dictator so far. Unfortunately! And I think there won't be, cause I don't know how to make one and I ain't got the time to get used to it. So, is there someone who can do that? It won't be too hard, for it's just a python-something. If it uses distutils the recipe is almost trivial Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
arne anka wrote: nope. he's just a troll. he's just saying what a lot of people are thinking I still hope to use my OM for *something*, but the chances of it ever being a reliable mobile phone are looking pretty slim. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Ain%27t-it-funny..-tp2791276p2833785.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
There are 4 apps that I would add to the feed if there were bitbake recipes for them pythm, woosh, intone and mokomaze. The players would I'm sure SHR has bitbake recipes for mokomaze and pythm. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] kernel with working g_ether to Windoze connection?
On Thu, 7 May 2009 18:31:39 +0200 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: I am searching for a really olg 2.6.28 kernel... (and not a .28 mispelled that in fact it's a .29...) where can i find it? (I'm talking about something of the mid april...) thanks d Ps: wifi worked nicely on that, i just used some /etc/network/interfaces files and getted eth0 up from shr-setting panel... now it semms that with .29 kernels the interface is not really responding and i get kernel panics when insisting on ifup ifdown eth0 [sorry i can't be more precise since i haven't found the point where it breaks] I stuffed the April 14th kernel and modules up on my server, you can pull them from http://newkirk.us/om/testing/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr119785+2bea5c68313577b214b872b0edc5968db0cf3b68-r3.2-om-gta02.bin http://newkirk.us/om/testing/modules-2.6.28-oe1+gitr119785+2bea5c68313577b214b872b0edc5968db0cf3b68-r3.2-om-gta02.tgz I'll leave them there through the weekend if your or anyone wants them. j 2009/5/7 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt Thanks, Paul. I ended up upgrading from shr-testing to shr-unstable, and the problems are gone. So, the non-functional kernel+g_ether must have been: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02.bin And the current working one is: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119805+f656a97d946a2529630c9770a72c10a24dc397f9-r3.4-om-gta02.bin I was just surprised to see the problem getting fixed and lost and refixed at least 2 times in a row. It feels like someone made a patch and it just doesn't stick - maybe it didn't make it upstream and sometimes it isn't appllied? I don't know the kernel source stream from vanilla down to SHR, so I'm talking out of my... imagination. ;) Anyway, I'm glad it is solved, and I hope it doesn't come back so easily again. Citando Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Vasco Nevoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes: Why don't you just specify which kernel revision works and which doesn't? How any kernel dev is supposed to solve your problems if you even don't properly describe it? Why don't you use the kernel that worked on your FR in the meantime? If I knew, I wouldn't have a problem, would I? :) At least you know the date (and the place you downloaded) the kernel had no problems and the problematic revision you use now, but you don't specify it. The kernel commit that finally fixed RNDIS issues was f63e59c84aa21d2745f115209bf949eca27008b1 and it was added to andy-tracking branch on Mar 16. I don't see anything related since then. Since you don't specify what revision you use now, i'm unable to even say if your rev includes the commit or not. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:51 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: perhaps you should enable gps tracking and fill in those gaps : ) Sure, when I'm back. I'm happy to use these tracks to update OSM :) On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:52 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later Truely ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, So do I. and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. I have used tangoGPS for 4 hour continous logging when bicycling. (56 km) IT'S GOOD! I guess that doesn't really help you with your current problem, however, but hopefully you'll work something out. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) Regards, Juan Lucas __ De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:54 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: Indeed: http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/13-Howto-contribute-to-OpenStreetMap.html Although I logged my tracks in TangoGPS, then converted them to GPX files using Prune: http://sourceforge.net/projects/prune-gps/ Before uploading to OSM. Works like a charm. Humm... Excellent! Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) whats that now? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:gpsview#how_can_i_walk_into_the_river_8 On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:01 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) whats that now? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
ah yes, thats what i mean by the gps log getting noisy when walking. if you had be on bike i think it would have been fine. most of my tracking is by car or train so i dont get those : ) On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:gpsview#how_can_i_walk_into_the_river_8 On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:01 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) whats that now? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Speed of NAND flash vs. SD card (Was: Ain't it funny..)
As a matter of fact, it's really slow to tar -xf .tar file, compared with my 2440 demo board. I takes me half a day to unzip the file system to sd card with fso image. If it's with my demo board to unzip, very quick, about 10min or so. What's wrong with fso image to unzip the tar package? On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:39 +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 07:12:25AM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It boots way faster that way anyway :) NAND flash ought to be a lot faster than Glamo's MMC interface. Where is the bug? FWIW, I tried a simple hdparm run on NOR flash, NAND flash and SD card: r...@debian-gta02:~# hdparm --direct -t /dev/mtdblock0# NOR flash /dev/mtdblock0: Timing O_DIRECT disk reads:2 MB in 1.24 seconds = 1.61 MB/sec r...@debian-gta02:~# hdparm --direct -t /dev/mtdblock3# NAND flash /dev/mtdblock3: Timing O_DIRECT disk reads:8 MB in 2.89 seconds = 2.77 MB/sec r...@debian-gta02:~# hdparm --direct -t /dev/mmcblk0 # Glamo MMC /dev/mmcblk0: Timing O_DIRECT disk reads:8 MB in 3.46 seconds = 2.31 MB/sec -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
2009/5/8 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:02 +0200, pam dirac wrote: try this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! There is only one item for update OSM, how to config this program to update Google Maps? that wasn't an overly helpful link. yaouh is for updating tiles you already have on your system. if there are no tiles there, it won't update anything. it's more for osm, where the tiles change in some areas by the day. in one area, google's rarely change in the space of a year. you need to select the google repository in 'config', then drag the map around to download tiles. as noted though, if you abuse the system, you will be black-listed although only for a limited time i believe. i also hear a given ip is allowed to download a limited number of tiles not through the api, before access is cut. the figure i was quoted was 1000. ymmv ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
I'm also open to suggestions of other applications. Openmoocow. It is simple and nice to show off. Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 11:15 +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/5/8 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:02 +0200, pam dirac wrote: try this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! There is only one item for update OSM, how to config this program to update Google Maps? that wasn't an overly helpful link. yaouh is for updating tiles you already have on your system. if there are no tiles there, it won't update anything. it's more for osm, where the tiles change in some areas by the day. in one area, google's rarely change in the space of a year. I think it's OK. well, mountain area :) you need to select the google repository in 'config', then drag the map around to download tiles. I didn't see any other repository in drop down list in yaouh. And I didn't know where to find yaouh's config file. So is there any manual to guide me though this? If there is, a link will also do. as noted though, if you abuse the system, you will be black-listed although only for a limited time i believe. Ah I just wanna download the area that I'll pass though during travel. i also hear a given ip is allowed to download a limited number of tiles not through the api, before access is cut. the figure i was quoted was 1000. ymmv Is there any server that is for public service, providing service for software like tangoGPS? Or is there any website to download zipped google maps? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Is there any server that is for public service, providing service for software like tangoGPS? Or is there any website to download zipped google maps? http://www.openaerialmap.org/map/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
On 8/05/2009 1:36 AM, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Mi 6. Mai 2009 schrieb roguem...@roguewrt.org: Although they become redundant pretty quick in our circles, they are great for the non-technical. I just wish they would support some viable way of upgrading/flashing to support more codecs. I don't think I'll be seeing an rs232 port an LCD TV anytime soon :) 32LG3000 http://de.lge.com/products/model/detail/lcdtv_32lg3000.jhtml • 32“ (81cm) Bildschirmdiagonale • Bildschirmgröße 708 x 398mm im 16:9 Format • 1.366 x 768 Pixel Auflösung, 8 bit Farbauflösung • Spitzenhelligkeit 500cd/m² / Kontrastverhältnis 15.000:1 (dynamisch) • Film Mode (3:2 / 2:2 Pull Down), Just Scan, Eye Care, Fresh White • HDMI Deep-Color-Technologie • 1 DVB-T- analoger Hyperband-Tuner mit 8-Tage DVB-T EPG • Eingangssignale: VGA-SXGA, PAL / SECAM / NTSC, SDTV HDTV (480i, 480p, 576i, 576p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p mit 30fps, 60fps, 24fps und 50fps) • Invisible Speaker System • Clear-Voice-Technologie für kristallklaren Sound • SRS TruSurround XT Soundoptimierung • Expert Mode, ISF ready, AV Mode • Eingänge: PC, RS-232C, PC Audio, 2 Scart (1 x RGB), Video, S-Video, 3 HDMI ^^^ +USB (Service) (1.3) mit HDCP und SIMPLINK, Komponente (YUV), Kopfhöreranschluss • Gehäusefarbe: Pianolackdesign • + 20° drehbarer Standfuß • HD ready Well there you go :) ... maybe I just didn't look properly, I probably do have one ;) One of my media players supports upgrading via rs232 but I've yet to find an image and a documented method of upgrade. So despite them existing, I'm not holding my breath for an upgrade path that consumers are able to perform. I imagine this would be brand specific however. Or maybe you just have to take it to an authorised service centre ... or maybe it's just there in case they decide at some point it might be useful to support their consumers. I've yet to put more than a passing thought into it ... but it's good to know some manufacturers are leaving the option open :) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka wrote: Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone. Once I got it and said WTF This doesn't work as a phone! I was told by OM that 2008.8 would. So I waited. It was worse than 2007.2. I was told that 2008.12 would be much better. So I waited. Was there even any difference? Sure, the animations might have been a bit smoother, or something, but it still didn't work as a phone. When I asked for my money back I was told that it had been too long since I placed my order... despite the fact that the only reason I waited so long was that I trusted OM when they said that I would eventually get a working phone. I contacted Consumer Affairs here in AU. They told me that OM were legally bound by our laws (which include a clause giving me the right to demand a refund if the item doesn't do what I was led to believe it would do). They told me that according to the letter of the law, OM were required to give me a refund. They also told me that since they're based overseas, there's basically no way to enforce it. In short: OM Have Lied to me, then violated the consumer protection laws they're bound to by selling a Neo to an Australian Citizen by refusing to refund my money. That means that *OpenMoko Are THIEVES*. Anything I say about them is justified. IMO you can't be a troll if you're in the right. And I am. I have been defrauded of $400. And so have you. The only difference is that I'm not willing to sit around pretending that being raped is all fun and games. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKA3cVFbVnQRV3OEYRArmhAJsHt3UILhaN/1Rjt30yL8+0jtOUPwCdHLMV gIMfLw0JvJV+o4sZQD9DYrY= =nJ+d -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
2009/5/8 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: that wasn't an overly helpful link. yaouh is for updating tiles you already have on your system. if there are no tiles there, it won't update anything. it's more for osm, where the tiles change in some areas by the day. in one area, google's rarely change in the space of a year. I think it's OK. well, mountain area :) you need to select the google repository in 'config', then drag the map around to download tiles. I didn't see any other repository in drop down list in yaouh. And I didn't know where to find yaouh's config file. when i say 'you need to select the google repository in config', i mean in tangogps, not yaouh. there is no config or setup for yaouh. it has one drop-down list, and one button this bit is very important -- the repository won't appear in yaouh's list until there are files on your system! So is there any manual to guide me though this? If there is, a link will also do. no manual, there's no need: 1. get some tiles by dragging the map around (in tangogps), 2. when you want to update them (in the case of google tiles, maybe once a year; in the case of osm tiles, maybe once every two weeks), run yaouh, 3. select the repository you want to update (in yaouh), 4. hit the triangle button (in yaouh) 5. wait. it's slow - maybe 100-200 tiles/minute? Ah I just wanna download the area that I'll pass though during travel. as long as it's fairly small, you'll be fine Is there any server that is for public service, providing service for software like tangoGPS? openstreetmap.org is the configured default repository; tango was built to use maps from there. there are several others, providing different types of data. none i know of (free, anyway - google's service is under a strict license) with the coverage of osm though Or is there any website to download zipped google maps? no, that would be against their terms and conditions try the pirate bay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
seriously... go write the prime minister or something. if your not going to contribute your just wasting everyone else's time On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka wrote: Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone. Once I got it and said WTF This doesn't work as a phone! I was told by OM that 2008.8 would. So I waited. It was worse than 2007.2. I was told that 2008.12 would be much better. So I waited. Was there even any difference? Sure, the animations might have been a bit smoother, or something, but it still didn't work as a phone. When I asked for my money back I was told that it had been too long since I placed my order... despite the fact that the only reason I waited so long was that I trusted OM when they said that I would eventually get a working phone. I contacted Consumer Affairs here in AU. They told me that OM were legally bound by our laws (which include a clause giving me the right to demand a refund if the item doesn't do what I was led to believe it would do). They told me that according to the letter of the law, OM were required to give me a refund. They also told me that since they're based overseas, there's basically no way to enforce it. In short: OM Have Lied to me, then violated the consumer protection laws they're bound to by selling a Neo to an Australian Citizen by refusing to refund my money. That means that *OpenMoko Are THIEVES*. Anything I say about them is justified. IMO you can't be a troll if you're in the right. And I am. I have been defrauded of $400. And so have you. The only difference is that I'm not willing to sit around pretending that being raped is all fun and games. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKA3cVFbVnQRV3OEYRArmhAJsHt3UILhaN/1Rjt30yL8+0jtOUPwCdHLMV gIMfLw0JvJV+o4sZQD9DYrY= =nJ+d -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
