Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Hi, The only thing I notice, in our (community) work is that today we have a LOT of applications doing gpx recording (going with memory, I remember TangoGPS, BikeAtor, Navit, probably also GPS Sight and Mumpot). Some applications have a database to insert POIs (like TangoGPS), but still doesn't exists something integrating all the features we (OSMmappers/surveyors) need. Intregrating such things is on my todo list for mumpot. For now, I mark start and end points of a way while cycling on it (in between I select the highway class), osm data is directly created and take a photo of street signs or other things which I do not directly map on the place (perhaps for the name of a POI, or if the POI is not in my presets). Sometimes I stop to do some correction or manual editing. I upload the osm data on the go directly from mumpot. At home (on the next day or so) I download the osm data for the area again in JOSM and add the street names and other stuff from the photos. I really think an integrated solution would be best because then you do not need to switch between applications all the time and the space on the screen is limited. So doing voice recording could be a kind of fallback which can be activated on every object insertion if the presets are not enough. I'm also thinking about using buttons in the headset for example to start recording, or especially on the bicycle scenario, what about extra buttons on the handlebar? Greetings Andreas Kemnade signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: hum doesn't work with om 2009 can you post the error? Christian Gagneraud wrote: Thank you for your work, it looks cute! You're Welcome. @kimaidou - Here's the deb package. I haven't checked it on my phone (since I don't have debian) and I haven't added any dependencies cause I don't know what the packages are called. So can you tell me the full names of the following packages on debian ? -elementary (providing libelementary) -mplayer -sqlite3 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2843962/intone-0.40.deb intone-0.40.deb @Marcel-2 - I'm not sure what you mean. I've made a deb package for installing intone on a debian system. I hope the latest versions of elementary are available for debian. This version needs the newer libraries. @Yorick Moko - You're using a distribution with the older libraries. The newer libraries use names like 'libehal-ver-pre-01.so.0'. I'll release a ipk for the older libraries soon. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.40---beta-pre-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2843962.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
On May 8, 2009 8:48am, Andreas Kemnade andr...@kemnade.info wrote: The only thing I notice, in our (community) work is that today we have a LOT of applications doing gpx recording (going with memory, I remember TangoGPS, BikeAtor, Navit, probably also GPS Sight and Mumpot). Some applications have a database to insert POIs (like TangoGPS), but still doesn't exists something integrating all the features we (OSMmappers/surveyors) need. OSM2go would cover most people requirements. As far as I can tell (http://comiles.eu/~natanael/wordpress/tag/osm2go), it isn't quite there yet on the FR. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] I18N
hello all, i just want to make my shr-installation german.. i installed diffrent packages to make that: tangogps-locale-de locale-base-de-ch claws-mail-locale-de gpe-calendar-locale-de glibc-binary-localedata-de-ch shr-settings-locale-de libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2-locale-de libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-locale-de but there isn't anything german. so, is anywhere a config-file with which make's possible to change? i also search the enlightement-de-package.. in one installation, it was possible to select german as language, which package should be used for this? hope for help :) greets -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Mobile +41 77 447 73 74 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] kernel with working g_ether to Windoze connection?
Thank you very much! I'm downloading it... i'll give feedback. Thanks d On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2009 18:31:39 +0200 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: I am searching for a really olg 2.6.28 kernel... (and not a .28 mispelled that in fact it's a .29...) where can i find it? (I'm talking about something of the mid april...) thanks d Ps: wifi worked nicely on that, i just used some /etc/network/interfaces files and getted eth0 up from shr-setting panel... now it semms that with .29 kernels the interface is not really responding and i get kernel panics when insisting on ifup ifdown eth0 [sorry i can't be more precise since i haven't found the point where it breaks] I stuffed the April 14th kernel and modules up on my server, you can pull them from http://newkirk.us/om/testing/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr119785+2bea5c68313577b214b872b0edc5968db0cf3b68-r3.2-om-gta02.bin http://newkirk.us/om/testing/modules-2.6.28-oe1+gitr119785+2bea5c68313577b214b872b0edc5968db0cf3b68-r3.2-om-gta02.tgz I'll leave them there through the weekend if your or anyone wants them. j 2009/5/7 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt Thanks, Paul. I ended up upgrading from shr-testing to shr-unstable, and the problems are gone. So, the non-functional kernel+g_ether must have been: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02.bin And the current working one is: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119805+f656a97d946a2529630c9770a72c10a24dc397f9-r3.4-om-gta02.bin I was just surprised to see the problem getting fixed and lost and refixed at least 2 times in a row. It feels like someone made a patch and it just doesn't stick - maybe it didn't make it upstream and sometimes it isn't appllied? I don't know the kernel source stream from vanilla down to SHR, so I'm talking out of my... imagination. ;) Anyway, I'm glad it is solved, and I hope it doesn't come back so easily again. Citando Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Vasco Nevoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes: Why don't you just specify which kernel revision works and which doesn't? How any kernel dev is supposed to solve your problems if you even don't properly describe it? Why don't you use the kernel that worked on your FR in the meantime? If I knew, I wouldn't have a problem, would I? :) At least you know the date (and the place you downloaded) the kernel had no problems and the problematic revision you use now, but you don't specify it. The kernel commit that finally fixed RNDIS issues was f63e59c84aa21d2745f115209bf949eca27008b1 and it was added to andy-tracking branch on Mar 16. I don't see anything related since then. Since you don't specify what revision you use now, i'm unable to even say if your rev includes the commit or not. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
2009/5/8 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: The rework itself is essentially for free and Openmoko provides an additional free battery to make good your efforts and the time you don't have the Freerunner to use. I agree that this is _the_ deal for anyone in EU. Getting a new battery in practice covers even the postage costs. Purchased my rework already. Thank you a lot for making this happen, and also to Openmoko Inc for showing some support to an initiative like this. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone. dale, you told us all of this already -- at least ten times. you put up your freerunner for sale at ebay months ago. you don't write anything productive on this list. why don't you just shut up? unsubscribe from this list -- you don't use the fr, you don't contribute to either community or development. the only thing you do on this list is trolling. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Guten Tag, Sieg Heil. ... beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country reflects that... :) ) wow. insulting and slimy at once! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
I appreciate there is a very high identification with the product among the remaining users. But please dont behave like this is the Scientology mailinglist. Using an open phone obliges you to be open minded :-) it has nothing to with identification but with dale's way to act. he doesn't use an fr and he does in no way contribute -- what do you call someone who lurks on a list he is in no way affiliated to and posts repeatedly meanings consisting of only your point of interest is crap, everything you are talking about is crap and if you don't share my point of view you are idiots and nazis? if that doesn't fit your definition of troll -- mine does. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Friday 08 May 2009 09:47:00 Christoph Pulster wrote: Please discuss different point of views and dont call Dave a troll. The fact is, Freerunner was promoted as a phone. A lot of customers are not happy with the Freerunner as a daily phone. Sales are running very low for this reason. Although you might be right about Freerunner promoted as ready for final user on www.openmoko.com, when I bought it (August 2008), I perfectly knew software was not ready. Anyway, starting one hot thread like this at this moment has not sense and it's some kind of trolling, because if you buzz fix your Neo, and install SHR, Hackable::1, or even OM2009 on it, you will have a perfectly usable phone. Not perfect, but perfectly usable. I appreciate there is a very high identification with the product among the remaining users. But please dont behave like this is the Scientology mailinglist. Using an open phone obliges you to be open minded :-) I'm sorry, but I cannot subscribe this kind of sentences: I have been defrauded of $400. And so have you. The only difference is that I'm not willing to sit around pretending that being raped is all fun and games. Freedom of speech doesn't allow anybody to assume I'm blind nor to be condescending with me. Some time ago, I have recommended several friends *NOT* to buy a Freerunner, because software was not ready. It was a great toy for me, but my friends would get desperated. I think it's being open minded (and being a good friend ;) If someone feels raped, he can press charges to OM. But complaining on a community mailing list won't solve his problems. Don't you think? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:44 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone. dale, you told us all of this already -- at least ten times. you put up your freerunner for sale at ebay months ago. you don't write anything productive on this list. why don't you just shut up? unsubscribe from this list -- you don't use the fr, you don't contribute to either community or development. the only thing you do on this list is trolling. Hmmm ... I do contribute and I do use my freerunner (sometimes, mostly for testing only). So I want to react for once as well: You see, in the end, Dale's not that wrong: a year after I bought the phone, I would at least expect a stable simple phone (I couldn't care less about the extras), but as a company, Openmoko didn't provide this. Therefore community releases were born, but they shouldn't be necessary, only additional (or as an alternative). In the freerunner case, only the community provides software for the phone. A year later, I have to admit, I sometimes think about selling my phone as well. I'm still using my old phone as stable phone, simply because I don't want to recharge each day or reboot my phone every now and then because unsuspend fails again, or wsod, or risk having my phone not waking up on incoming calls, etc ... QtExtendedImproved is as close as it gets for me ... Koolu promised many times a stable android release, but there also: no release, months after original promise (I mean, really: low priority for the feature 'entering your sim PIN' ???). Sometimes people have to face the facts as well. I *love* opensource, I don't even own a windows pc, look up my name in google if you want proof. I've worked hard for this phone in the last months, but is it really worth it? What will I do if the phone breaks? Dunno yet ... Every project, even an open project, totally in the opensource hands, can fail ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: 2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/export hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price is not yet clear (expected to be less than 30 EUR incl. shipment) because we are in intensive discussions with Openmoko how they can help to reduce this fee for you. Is this rework fee valid also for your customers? Don't you offer a kind of warranty? The same for me, I'm your customer too. Thank you in advance for your answer. Bye! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
2009/5/7 Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.com: Podboy is a podcast aggregator/player written in Python/Elementary. http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/816/podboy_0.0.1-r0_all.ipk great stuff, trying it out now will you be hosting it in a repository of your own, or perhaps on opkg.org ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge
2009/5/7 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org A So you think the STANDARD kernel should care about this rather exotic case which isn't specified properly (how long would this charger see the 1A sometimes?) and needs massive care from userland anyway? I mean, there's some reason PCF50633 is built this way, huh? We got enough problems caring about real hw-glitches in this chip. I don't think it's recommendable to tweak it even further far beyond what's normal usecase. All I want from kernel is allowing me to set whatever values I need for both usb_curlim and chg_curlim. (also when charging from an external battery pack it is very usefull too not to pump all its juice just to fill internal battery - chg_curlim set to very low) btw your concept isn't working as you said yourself the USB current is reset to 500mA on powerdown. So how could you charge with 750mA? If system is powered up odds are it will take away 250mA. On powerdown state it seems to me there's no way at all to charge with 750mA. I really don't see the rationale behind all this. /j Personnaly I am not sure but it did not look like usb current was reset on powerdown when I tested (at least it was not reset to 100mA after I had to force it to 500 or 1000 on my dumb charger, and this is what I needed more !) Well, anyway, even if not perfect (chg_curlim following usb_curlim when it is changed), these settings proved really helpfull for me ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2009/5/8 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: The rework itself is essentially for free and Openmoko provides an additional free battery to make good your efforts and the time you don't have the Freerunner to use. I agree that this is _the_ deal for anyone in EU. Getting a new battery in practice covers even the postage costs. Purchased my rework already. Thank you a lot for making this happen, and also to Openmoko Inc for showing some support to an initiative like this. -Timo I had my phone recently fixed in a fix party in Germany. Do I also get a free battery? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New Mokomaze] Coming soon
On Friday 08 May 2009 02:32:40 Denis Johnson wrote: Could you or someone please describe where and how to install fsoraw on shr-testing (23 Apr or so) ? There is a howto on the mokomaze project webpage. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Am 08.05.2009 um 09:52 schrieb DJDAS: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: 2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/ export hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price is not yet clear (expected to be less than 30 EUR incl. shipment) because we are in intensive discussions with Openmoko how they can help to reduce this fee for you. Is this rework fee valid also for your customers? Don't you offer a kind of warranty? The same for me, I'm your customer too. Thank you in advance for your answer. Bye! Sorry, I missed the first mail. Maybe, you did not read the final announcement (the 30 EUR was the initial upper limit) that there is only 3 EUR left over just that our shop software calculates the correct shipment fee that covers shipment expenses. The rework itself is essentially for free and Openmoko provides an additional free battery to make good your efforts and the time you don't have the Freerunner to use. Nikolaus Schaller Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Thu, 7 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: Please report them to https://docs.openmoko.org/trac and set the milestone to Om2009 happy to. i just went off to report my first (that the paroli call screen often disappears during a call, making it hard to hang up) and saw on the new ticket page (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/wiki/NewTicket) the statement Never set Priority, Severity or Milestone - thats for the QA team only!. should i follow your instructions, or theirs? if theirs, how would you like these issues tagged? This is fixed with the current unstable but some new issues have shown up. If you would like to test the fixes change the repo from testing to unstable. For now don't upgrade framework just opkg install paroli. Once the issues with the framework are sorted there will be a new image. ok, thanks for that. i'll try to upgrade before logging any call-related bugs. I'm pretty sure I got my side of this fixed now ( again currently in unstable ). The current workaround is cp /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/paroli_rules.yaml /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/rules.yaml for the benefit of anyone reading the list archives, that seems to be /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/... not .../oeventsd/..., and it works for me - holding down the power button for 10s and releasing it starts the shutdown (within a few seconds). Thanks for testing thanks for coding! -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Hmmm ... I do contribute and I do use my freerunner (sometimes, mostly for testing only). So I want to react for once as well: then there's no need for you to feel addressed :-) You see, in the end, Dale's not that wrong: a year after I bought the phone, I would at least expect a stable simple phone (I couldn't care less about the extras), but as a company, Openmoko didn't provide this. well, that has beeen discussed so many times already and nothing in the views expressed has changed. i don't see how replaying the whole tape is supposed to make a difference. criticising the state the fr and the project is in, is ok -- in fact, it has imo made the buzz fix finally available, it has improvroved communication with the om staff ... but it's all crap, they are liars and defraudants is in no way solving anything -- and people who have nothing to post but such comments _are_ trolls. they are not interested in making something work, not in sorting out issues but to boost their little selves -- iaw: trolls. and for dale's -- i said what i think of his kind of argumentation. because I don't want to recharge each day or reboot my phone every now and then because unsuspend fails again, or wsod, or risk having my phone not waking up on incoming calls, etc ... yeah, and there we are again. _i_ for one do not have complaints (at least no significant amount different from other phones i used) about the use as daily phone. it works now about as reliable as my treo650 used to do (which had its bad days, too) and the last time i rebootet was for the buzz fix. i don't remember when i rebooted the last time before. and still, i too have discouraged friends interested. so? what i am saying is, everybody has its own defintion of working phone and almost everbody has its own software configuration. so, how is a globally true statement of fit to be used as ... possible? stating after one year the fr is still unsusable as (daily) phone is simply not true! it might be true for _you_, but it isn't for _me_ -- so please, always be aware that those statemants express only _your_ point of view, not an objective truth. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Cant let this pass ... On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 11:33 +0200, arne anka wrote: Hmmm ... I do contribute and I do use my freerunner (sometimes, mostly yeah, and there we are again. _i_ for one do not have complaints (at least no significant amount different from other phones i used) about the use as daily phone. Either you dont use your phone or its powered off in a draw :) ... see my last comment below as to why I say this. it works now about as reliable as my treo650 used to do (which had its bad days, too) and the last time i rebootet was for the buzz fix. i don't I have a 650 - the FR is still a long way from being as stable even now, as the 650 was when released. I was getting uptimes of weeks (and now with the sim in the FR, a battery charge lasts a full MONTH!!!) - the FR will usually only go a few days or resume cycles before a crash or reboot is needed and must be charged daily if any real use is made of it. It may go more if i dont use it, or get any calls but then, why have a phone :) Why am I contributing to a flame? - my phone came in the same batch as Dales to Oz (the first release), and yes, I do feel cheated somewhat as well - though I am now getting some of the service from my FR that it was supposed to have when we purchased it - but only because I am modifying the code for various bits and pieces. My point - the FR seems to be very flaky - what works for some wont work for others - in your case it works well, but for many others it is only partially working, or not at all - and this is after 12 months!. Want a concrete example - the FR keeps lousy time. otimed was introduced to help with this - but they hard coded a European IP number into it! So it works fine in Europe but not here for me in Perth Australia because its too far away to be accurate and reliable, but the European users and devs cant see a problem as it works for them ... Please understand that what you see, many others are not, and might have a quite different viewpoint on this ... BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Fernando Martins wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. How about quality of data, I mean, for instance if you have to backtrack in a road, will you have to delete the log and restart all over? How This is not how it works. You don't turn a tracklog directly into a OSM street, so this problem is avoided. 1. Walk around, with gps tracking on. 2. Using one of several possible apps, display the track on the PC, and download whatever OSM data there is for the region already. 3. So now you see some OSM data (if there were any) and your gps track on the screen. The next step then, is to draw roads using your track as a guideline. You will see where you backtracked, but you will of course draw that road only once. Your track will curve at intersections, but if you remember that the roads met at 90 degrees, then you draw them that way. 4. You also add any other information that you remember or wrote down. Such as street names, type of road, and so on. If you had several logs, then you just load all of them at the same time and draw more road lines. Essentially I'm trying to understand how burdensome (or not) it can become for a simple sightseeing to also do tracking. OSM mapping isn't complicated. You decide how much time you want to spend on it. You can draw just roads, roads with names, or even add all sorts of features like mailboxes, housenumbers, parks, parking lots... If drawing road lines becomes too much of a burden for you, just upload the traces to osm and hope that someone else will use them for drawing. A problem with this approach is that others won't know how the track was recorded, so they might make a wrong road where you crossed a lawn and things like that. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
Hi there! So updating paroli from testing should fix the tele crashing during calls. Can I just run http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr22+83d262ab5c88dd32078e6e931850d69f3c1eca51-r18_armv4t.ipk or does it need some other packages from unstable too, as dependencies? Also, is there a way to enable the illume theme etc from the command line (i mean the Press AUX long to get to MENU - DISPLAY - PROFILE and change it from Paroli to Illume -thing). Then, could someone point me to tools to manage gps (turn on/off), wlan, gprs etc.. from GUI. Or more generally - let others know what you've installed to make it do the tricks you want. Thanks! r - working on http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Hi there! So updating paroli from testing should fix the tele crashing during calls. Can I just run http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr22+83d262ab5c88dd32078e6e931850d69f3c1eca51-r18_armv4t.ipk or does it need some other packages from unstable too, as dependencies? Decided to give it a try and it installed with no problems so far.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
2009/5/8 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: How about quality of data, I mean, for instance if you have to backtrack in a road, will you have to delete the log and restart all over? How This is not how it works. You don't turn a tracklog directly into a OSM street, so this problem is avoided. it's perfectly acceptable to turn a tracklog into a road, and there are tools at osm/the tangogps website to do this. i find it's only useful where i'm doing a trip at high speed. at low speed the points are so close together, that the track jags all over the place and doesn't precisely represent where i walk/cycled if you do backtrack/stop for a few moments, it's possible to delete individual points from an osm way - just click on the one you want to remove, and press delete on your keyboard (this is using potlatch, by the way). or, if you've cut a corner, extra points can be added and dragged around ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
cofundus call recorder competition results
There were 2 entries for the cofundus call recorder competition. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder by Tom and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator by Matthias Both fulfilled enough requirements and worked well (there were problems with different distros but with FSO based SHR testing they were ok). The person I asked to judge the softwares (Shakti Singh) liked Dictator for its user interface and call recorder for its implementation of splitting the incomming and outgoing voice into different channels. He has decided to declare both the submissions as joint winners and the prize money being divided among the two. Shakti suggested that the leather case be given to Tom as his solution worked straight out of the box while Matthias solution now fully functional with the second revision. I would request all of you to try the applications and provide feedback to the authors (or enhance them yourselves as the are open licensed) Also I would like to thank Tom and Matthias for the excellent applications they have written. This was a much sought after feature request on the Freerunner. Thanks Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka wrote: Guten Tag, Sieg Heil. ... beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country reflects that... :) ) wow. insulting and slimy at once! I'd just like to say thanks for addressing the points I make in such a calm and rational manner. If you were capable of being rational, you would have realised that I was referencing a totalitarian state, not a race, and then clarifying that I am not attempting to insult a race of people and that it's unfortunate that using your particular language happens to be a very effective way to express that. I do genuinely feel an affinity to your people, culture, and country. If you think that my being honest is being insulting and slimy, then whatever. I have already recieved one off-list email from a deutschlander who understood exactly what I was trying to say, so that indicates further to me that you're just being a fanboy and not thinking independently or even weighing my arguments - you see my posts, your mind closes, and you say troll like a reflex. And that's sad. If you would like to suggest a more appropriate way for me to have expressed what I wanted to, I would very much like to hear it. Note however that the sarcasm used in the greeting is important to my style, so any suggestion you might make would have to retain that. Also it would want to be short and effective. Alternatively, you're welcome to address the issues I'm raising. Or you could set up an email filter and consequently STFU. All are acceptable to me - I'm in favour of free speech. But true free speech requires rational dialogue, and I'm not seeing any rational dialogue from you. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKBCjkFbVnQRV3OEYRAqcBAJ9ClvhkIToyaGGXApiNrfsWA8kotACdHsVA WsQyQnqXKZj/1XIbpVHSEQA= =PtQt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cofundus call recorder competition results
Great and thanks to the developers! This is the approach that makes the Openmoko a useful device that is finally superior to others. Nikolaus Am 08.05.2009 um 14:35 schrieb rakshat hooja: There were 2 entries for the cofundus call recorder competition. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder by Tom and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator by Matthias Both fulfilled enough requirements and worked well (there were problems with different distros but with FSO based SHR testing they were ok). The person I asked to judge the softwares (Shakti Singh) liked Dictator for its user interface and call recorder for its implementation of splitting the incomming and outgoing voice into different channels. He has decided to declare both the submissions as joint winners and the prize money being divided among the two. Shakti suggested that the leather case be given to Tom as his solution worked straight out of the box while Matthias solution now fully functional with the second revision. I would request all of you to try the applications and provide feedback to the authors (or enhance them yourselves as the are open licensed) Also I would like to thank Tom and Matthias for the excellent applications they have written. This was a much sought after feature request on the Freerunner. Thanks Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka wrote: Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone. dale, you told us all of this already -- at least ten times. Sources? I don't think it has been ten. and I've certainly not said *all* this before. you put up your freerunner for sale at ebay months ago. I don't remember ever saying that. I may have said that I was *thinking* about it. Again, please cite sources. you don't write anything productive on this list. It's productive for people who might be thinking of buying a FR. why don't you just shut up? Why don't you just set up an email filter? unsubscribe from this list -- you don't use the fr, you don't contribute to either community or development. the only thing you do on this list is trolling. See my previous email - I've already addressed these assertions. come up with something new. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKBCn1FbVnQRV3OEYRAsf4AKCKRi/kEoB1qLv7LajMmWSl3KFphQCggCrp vCSUVbcKfznA2h0MuTUeQzo= =5YVO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you very much for a rational contribution to this thread, Franky. Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:44 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone. dale, you told us all of this already -- at least ten times. you put up your freerunner for sale at ebay months ago. you don't write anything productive on this list. why don't you just shut up? unsubscribe from this list -- you don't use the fr, you don't contribute to either community or development. the only thing you do on this list is trolling. Hmmm ... I do contribute and I do use my freerunner (sometimes, mostly for testing only). So I want to react for once as well: You see, in the end, Dale's not that wrong: a year after I bought the phone, I would at least expect a stable simple phone (I couldn't care less about the extras), but as a company, Openmoko didn't provide this. Therefore community releases were born, but they shouldn't be necessary, only additional (or as an alternative). In the freerunner case, only the community provides software for the phone. A year later, I have to admit, I sometimes think about selling my phone as well. I'm still using my old phone as stable phone, simply because I don't want to recharge each day or reboot my phone every now and then because unsuspend fails again, or wsod, or risk having my phone not waking up on incoming calls, etc ... QtExtendedImproved is as close as it gets for me ... Koolu promised many times a stable android release, but there also: no release, months after original promise (I mean, really: low priority for the feature 'entering your sim PIN' ???). Sometimes people have to face the facts as well. I *love* opensource, I don't even own a windows pc, look up my name in google if you want proof. I've worked hard for this phone in the last months, but is it really worth it? What will I do if the phone breaks? Dunno yet ... Every project, even an open project, totally in the opensource hands, can fail ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKBCp/FbVnQRV3OEYRAr2JAJ9Rkkm/6ojk5VkK7Gg7HtJYRfWFGgCfS9Hi GFo/0xu5j+bJEM/Mcuh9JLU= =eL2H -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
I love the interface, Python/Elementary looks and feels a hundred times better than GTK that most apps to the neo is written in, besides it's much lighter than GTK. Cudos! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-SHR--Podboy-%280.0.1---pre-alpha-release%29-tp2827386p2845175.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka wrote: so, how is a globally true statement of fit to be used as ... possible? it might be true for _you_, but it isn't for _me_ -- so please, always be aware that those statemants express only _your_ point of view, not an objective truth. According to Australian Laws, the customer's point of view is what matters. That's me. Hence they're breaching Australian consumer protection Laws by refusing to refund my money. I invite you to read the following for a good explanation of the Australian Laws, if you'd like more specific info: http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/CA256902000FE154/Lookup/CAV_Publications_Business_Information/$file/A4%20Refund%20Law%20Brochure.pdf#xml=http://search.justice.vic.gov.au/isysquery/irl5ab6/3/hilite If you think that my bringing the truth out into the open, or that my attempting to stand up for my rights is trolling, then I think that your opinions are very strange, given that the Open Source philosophy is really all about freedom, equality, and rights. I would once again Invite you to set up an email filter :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKBC6xFbVnQRV3OEYRAlatAJ4jR20i62eguCHDZC5gWHtxprr4bgCglOwM ST3e9Sh0BPNwtnxiLU7DmvM= =UDzH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi c_c Thanks for the link. I tryed to download it via wget, then install it with dpk -i, but it failed : debian-gta02:~# dpkg -i intone-0.40.deb dpkg-deb: unexpected end of file in header info member in intone-0.40.deb dpkg: error processing intone-0.40.deb (--install): subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: intone-0.40.deb It seems the header of the deb file is wrong 2009/5/8 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: hum doesn't work with om 2009 can you post the error? Christian Gagneraud wrote: Thank you for your work, it looks cute! You're Welcome. @kimaidou - Here's the deb package. I haven't checked it on my phone (since I don't have debian) and I haven't added any dependencies cause I don't know what the packages are called. So can you tell me the full names of the following packages on debian ? -elementary (providing libelementary) -mplayer -sqlite3 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2843962/intone-0.40.deb intone-0.40.deb @Marcel-2 - I'm not sure what you mean. I've made a deb package for installing intone on a debian system. I hope the latest versions of elementary are available for debian. This version needs the newer libraries. @Yorick Moko - You're using a distribution with the older libraries. The newer libraries use names like 'libehal-ver-pre-01.so.0'. I'll release a ipk for the older libraries soon. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.40---beta-pre-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2843962.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Next cofundus OM competition idea
I was wondering if FR could function as a fax client so one could send text and picture files directly to fax numbers and if there is any interest in such an application. If there is some interest I will set this up as the next OM software comp on cofundus. Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 14:43:16 schrieb Dale Maggee: arne anka wrote: Guten Tag, Sieg Heil. ... beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country reflects that... :) ) wow. insulting and slimy at once! I'd just like to say thanks for addressing the points I make in such a calm and rational manner. If you were capable of being rational, you would have realised that I was referencing a totalitarian state, not a race, and then clarifying that I am not attempting to insult a race of people and that it's unfortunate that using your particular language happens to be a very effective way to express that. I do genuinely feel an affinity to your people, culture, and country. If you think that my being honest is being insulting and slimy, then whatever. I have already recieved one off-list email from a deutschlander who understood exactly what I was trying to say, so that indicates further to me that you're just being a fanboy and not thinking independently or even weighing my arguments - you see my posts, your mind closes, and you say troll like a reflex. And that's sad. If you would like to suggest a more appropriate way for me to have expressed what I wanted to, I would very much like to hear it. Note however that the sarcasm used in the greeting is important to my style, so any suggestion you might make would have to retain that. Also it would want to be short and effective. Alternatively, you're welcome to address the issues I'm raising. Or you could set up an email filter and consequently STFU. All are acceptable to me - I'm in favour of free speech. But true free speech requires rational dialogue, and I'm not seeing any rational dialogue from you. Dale, I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such an affair is completely inappropriate. You may like our country as much as you want, still using this... deprecated language doesn't make me feel you really know what you're referencing there. There are WAY better examples for freedom of speech. This is no more rationale than you may think the other's contributions to be. Yours sincerely, Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 09:25:03 schrieb c_c: @kimaidou - Here's the deb package. I haven't checked it on my phone (since I don't have debian) and I haven't added any dependencies cause I don't know what the packages are called. So can you tell me the full names of the following packages on debian ? -elementary (providing libelementary) -mplayer -sqlite3 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2843962/intone-0.40.deb intone-0.40.deb @Marcel-2 - I'm not sure what you mean. I've made a deb package for installing intone on a debian system. I hope the latest versions of elementary are available for debian. This version needs the newer libraries. That's the trick about it: There's no official elementary debian package yet and Mirko (?) told me some days ago on #openmoko that the python bindings aren't that good yet, either. (Correct my if I remember wrong) So the only choice is to build elm by hand since the new set of e17 packages which is in preparation at the moment (Joachim Breitner is working on them afaik, see pkg-e-devel mailinglist) doesn't contain elm yet. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:04:10PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: I was wondering if FR could function as a fax client so one could send text and picture files directly to fax numbers and if there is any interest in such an application. If there is some interest I will set this up as the next OM software comp on cofundus. How about a telephony suite that actually works? :) As much as I despise (sorry folks, too slow and doesn't quite cut it) the qtopia suite, it's still the one that works best... Rui -- Keep the Lasagna flying! Today is Pungenday, the 55th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Marcel wrote: I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such I call for the rule of Godwin's Law! Rui -- Frink! Today is Pungenday, the 55th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 15:51:40 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:04:10PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: I was wondering if FR could function as a fax client so one could send text and picture files directly to fax numbers and if there is any interest in such an application. If there is some interest I will set this up as the next OM software comp on cofundus. How about a telephony suite that actually works? :) Some hacking marathon for paroli could help. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Marcel wrote: I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such I call for the rule of Godwin's Law! Rui nice 1! Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 15:51:40 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:04:10PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: I was wondering if FR could function as a fax client so one could send text and picture files directly to fax numbers and if there is any interest in such an application. If there is some interest I will set this up as the next OM software comp on cofundus. How about a telephony suite that actually works? :) Some hacking marathon for paroli could help. Absolutely! Someone could work on the paroli config and actually implement this stuff: http://www.paroli-project.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/settings_full.png r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 10:16 +0100, Tom Yates wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: Please report them to https://docs.openmoko.org/trac and set the milestone to Om2009 happy to. i just went off to report my first (that the paroli call screen often disappears during a call, making it hard to hang up) and saw on the new ticket page (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/wiki/NewTicket) the statement Never set Priority, Severity or Milestone - thats for the QA team only!. should i follow your instructions, or theirs? if theirs, how would you like these issues tagged? When you enter the bug Please set the milestone, and even the severity or priority. I will however change any one of them as I see fit. I think that statement refers more to bug that are already in trac, I'll find out how to get it adjusted. This is fixed with the current unstable but some new issues have shown up. If you would like to test the fixes change the repo from testing to unstable. For now don't upgrade framework just opkg install paroli. Once the issues with the framework are sorted there will be a new image. ok, thanks for that. i'll try to upgrade before logging any call-related bugs. I'm pretty sure I got my side of this fixed now ( again currently in unstable ). The current workaround is cp /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/paroli_rules.yaml /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/rules.yaml for the benefit of anyone reading the list archives, that seems to be /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/... not .../oeventsd/..., and it works for me - holding down the power button for 10s and releasing it starts the shutdown (within a few seconds). Yup that's a better path ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 15:12 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Hi there! So updating paroli from testing should fix the tele crashing during calls. Can I just run http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr22+83d262ab5c88dd32078e6e931850d69f3c1eca51-r18_armv4t.ipk or does it need some other packages from unstable too, as dependencies? Decided to give it a try and it installed with no problems so far.. r Yeah it should not have any other dependencies. Glad it's working. There is a Kustomizer 2009 thread on one of the lists that will install a lot of the popular apps into Om2009. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:04:10PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: I was wondering if FR could function as a fax client so one could send text and picture files directly to fax numbers and if there is any interest in such an application. If there is some interest I will set this up as the next OM software comp on cofundus. How about a telephony suite that actually works? :) I agree this is very important (though I am quite happy with SHR testing (16th april)- calls and sms and gprs for browsing work perfectly) I dont think a small cofundus project is an answer for this. SHR, OM 2009, QTEI, Android, FYP, Hackable 1 + some I am missing are all trying to get there. I still dont think we will have a fully functional telephoney stack before the 4th quarter of 2009. My idea is to have a large nummber of stable and interesting apps avaialble when stable telephony arrives on the FR. So I am looking at smaller projects - those that can be done in a month by one person. Rakshat As much as I despise (sorry folks, too slow and doesn't quite cut it) the qtopia suite, it's still the one that works best... Rui -- Keep the Lasagna flying! Today is Pungenday, the 55th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 15:12 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Hi there! So updating paroli from testing should fix the tele crashing during calls. Can I just run http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr22+83d262ab5c88dd32078e6e931850d69f3c1eca51-r18_armv4t.ipk or does it need some other packages from unstable too, as dependencies? Decided to give it a try and it installed with no problems so far.. r Yeah it should not have any other dependencies. Glad it's working. There is a Kustomizer 2009 thread on one of the lists that will install a lot of the popular apps into Om2009. Angus FYI Risto started Kustomizer and is the main author of Kustomizer 2009 so far so I am pretty sure he already knew this!!! Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 19:56 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: FYI Risto started Kustomizer and is the main author of Kustomizer 2009 so far so I am pretty sure he already knew this!!! Rakshat I thought the name looked familiar, I guess I need more coffee :) Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com writes: I agree this is very important (though I am quite happy with SHR testing (16th april)- calls and sms and gprs for browsing work perfectly) I dont think a small cofundus project is an answer for this. SHR, OM 2009, QTEI, Indeed, and many of the issues are in the GSM firmware which most won't have any access. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] kernel with working g_ether to Windoze connection?
AFAIK this is a .28 mispelled... or at least is what uname -r answers (2.6.29-rc3)... anyway you've been very kind ;-) but i still don't have wifi working. f On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much! I'm downloading it... i'll give feedback. Thanks d On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.uswrote: On Thu, 7 May 2009 18:31:39 +0200 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: I am searching for a really olg 2.6.28 kernel... (and not a .28 mispelled that in fact it's a .29...) where can i find it? (I'm talking about something of the mid april...) thanks d Ps: wifi worked nicely on that, i just used some /etc/network/interfaces files and getted eth0 up from shr-setting panel... now it semms that with .29 kernels the interface is not really responding and i get kernel panics when insisting on ifup ifdown eth0 [sorry i can't be more precise since i haven't found the point where it breaks] I stuffed the April 14th kernel and modules up on my server, you can pull them from http://newkirk.us/om/testing/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr119785+2bea5c68313577b214b872b0edc5968db0cf3b68-r3.2-om-gta02.bin http://newkirk.us/om/testing/modules-2.6.28-oe1+gitr119785+2bea5c68313577b214b872b0edc5968db0cf3b68-r3.2-om-gta02.tgz I'll leave them there through the weekend if your or anyone wants them. j 2009/5/7 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt Thanks, Paul. I ended up upgrading from shr-testing to shr-unstable, and the problems are gone. So, the non-functional kernel+g_ether must have been: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02.bin And the current working one is: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119805+f656a97d946a2529630c9770a72c10a24dc397f9-r3.4-om-gta02.bin I was just surprised to see the problem getting fixed and lost and refixed at least 2 times in a row. It feels like someone made a patch and it just doesn't stick - maybe it didn't make it upstream and sometimes it isn't appllied? I don't know the kernel source stream from vanilla down to SHR, so I'm talking out of my... imagination. ;) Anyway, I'm glad it is solved, and I hope it doesn't come back so easily again. Citando Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Vasco Nevoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes: Why don't you just specify which kernel revision works and which doesn't? How any kernel dev is supposed to solve your problems if you even don't properly describe it? Why don't you use the kernel that worked on your FR in the meantime? If I knew, I wouldn't have a problem, would I? :) At least you know the date (and the place you downloaded) the kernel had no problems and the problematic revision you use now, but you don't specify it. The kernel commit that finally fixed RNDIS issues was f63e59c84aa21d2745f115209bf949eca27008b1 and it was added to andy-tracking branch on Mar 16. I don't see anything related since then. Since you don't specify what revision you use now, i'm unable to even say if your rev includes the commit or not. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
c_c wrote: Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: hum doesn't work with om 2009 can you post the error? Simple, mplayer and other dependencies are not in the default feeds (http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing) As already stated, i managed to install everything by following Kustomizer for OM2009 instructions (http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX) Chris Christian Gagneraud wrote: Thank you for your work, it looks cute! You're Welcome. @kimaidou - Here's the deb package. I haven't checked it on my phone (since I don't have debian) and I haven't added any dependencies cause I don't know what the packages are called. So can you tell me the full names of the following packages on debian ? -elementary (providing libelementary) -mplayer -sqlite3 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2843962/intone-0.40.deb intone-0.40.deb @Marcel-2 - I'm not sure what you mean. I've made a deb package for installing intone on a debian system. I hope the latest versions of elementary are available for debian. This version needs the newer libraries. @Yorick Moko - You're using a distribution with the older libraries. The newer libraries use names like 'libehal-ver-pre-01.so.0'. I'll release a ipk for the older libraries soon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Steve, I appreciate your replying to this thread. I would however point out that I believe that you should have already been aware of this issue before I raised it in this public mailing list: I sent three emails to Openmoko asking about getting a refund, and received no reply to any of them. I've pasted these emails below, after the ---BEGIN EMAIL THREAD--- Line. You were cc'd in two of these emails (the ones saying I've had no reply). I eventually got a response from Tony Tu on the trac ticket, at which point I stopped sending emails to you. As I've indicated, I've already gone through the process of requesting a refund for the device, and this was declined. I think you should be able to find all the info you need at https://support.openmoko.com/trac/ticket/36 I think that if you want to discuss the refund issue with me, it may be more appropriate to do so off-list, but I realise that I may have created a public image issue for you here (given my usage of the words thieves and defrauded), and that you may therefore want to keep this public. If you're willing to work with me to resolve my grievances and prove my assertions incorrect, then I'd be more than happy to come back here and retract my previous statements once it's resolved :). That might be more appropriate, rather than flooding the mailing list with what will effectively be back-and-forth personal conversations between you and me. but if you want to discuss it in this public place I have no problem with that either - up to you. Since having my application for a refund declined, I had come to kind of accept that I had been screwed, and I have since bought another phone. Since I did that, I've (in my less angry moments) come to see the FR as a kind-of-cool little open-source device, as long as you don't want to use it as a phone. I haven't really done anything much with it, because so far I've been too angry to really even look at it, but I will admit that it does have potential for something, even if it's not as a reliable phone. (That's my whole point, by the way: That it's not a usable phone, even after a year of waiting, and I bought it because I wanted a working open source phone, and I was told that the FR would meet that requirement). I would therefore perhaps be open to accepting a partial refund and keeping the device as a PDA-sized linux device (The AU Laws allow for that), even if I never use it. But I think that if this were to happen I would maybe not feel cheated anymore and could possibly once again enjoy participating constructively in the community. I Look forward to hearing from you. Regards, - -Dale - ---BEGIN EMAIL THREAD--- Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: FreeRunner]] Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:19:34 +1100 From: Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net To: cont...@openmoko.com, s...@openmoko.com, st...@openmoko.com Having received absolutely no response whatsoever after more than a week, even after opening a refund ticker in trac (#36), I resend my email once again... - Original Message Subject: [Fwd: FreeRunner] Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:25:12 +1100 From: Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net To: cont...@openmoko.com CC: s...@openmoko.com, mic...@openmoko.org, st...@openmoko.com Having received no response whatsoever to my previous email, I'll send it again, and add a few more addresses. Hopefully I'll get a reply this time. Please see below. Regards, - -Dale - Original Message Subject: FreeRunner Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:35:41 +1100 From: Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net To: cont...@openmoko.com Hi, Please advise what is the process for getting my money back for my Neo Freerunner. Before I purchased this device almost a year ago, I was told that it could reliably make and recieve phone calls, as per Steve's email below. This is not, nor has it ever been the case - The device has *never* reliably made or recieved phone calls, it's overall stability is completely sub-par, and the ASU software stack mentioned turned out to be even less reliable and also slower than the original 2007.2 software stack. I have listened to Openmoko's promises regarding solving the issues, and these promises have not been met, repeatedly. In addition to this, as far as I can see, Openmoko's emphasis does not appear to be on stability or being able to use the device reliably as a phone, you seem to be more interested in building new frameworks from the ground up than actually making the device do what I bought it to do. While I'll agree that FSO may *one day* provide a usefull framework, it is presently far away from this goal (*still* no PIM!). In addition, a working phone that could be used as an everyday phone has a suspend mode, will happily go for more than 4-6 hours without being attached to a battery charger, and will actually wake up from suspend mode when appropriate (i.e if somebody calls). Thus this device does not do what you have told me
Re: nandwrite problem in writing uboot env (/dev/mtd2)
Hello list,
some day ago I decided to change some uboot environment variable (ext2
fs in ext3 fs) from my OM2008.12 booted from the uSD.
I started with:
cat /dev/mtd2 uboot_env.bin
(the same as nanddump /dev/mtd2 uboot_env_dump.bin as diff confirmed).
A edited it with vim and changed the 2 of ext2 into a 3, flashed it with
nandwrite -p /dev/mtd2 uboot_env.bin.new
but, on reboot, the mobile stopped at the uboot menu (it looked empty to it)
and I noticed:
r...@om-gta02:~/ubootenv# ls -l
-rw-r--r--1 root root 262144 Mar 26 00:09 uBoot_env.bin
-rw-r--r--1 root root 262145 Mar 26 00:18 uBoot_env.bin.new
so I edited with vim -b obtaining:
r...@om-gta02:~/ubootenv# ls -l
-rw-r--r--1 root root 262144 Mar 26 00:09 uBoot_env.bin
-rw-r--r--1 root root 262144 Mar 26 00:18 uBoot_env.bin.new
but the same result at boot time.
Using xxd and diff I obtained:
--- uBoot_env.bin.new.xxd Thu Mar 26 00:40:13 2009
+++ uBoot_env.bin.xxd Thu Mar 26 00:40:00 2009
@@ -16,10 +16,10 @@
0f0: 3230 3030 3030 3000 626f 6f74 6465 6c61 200.bootdela
100: 793d 3100 6d65 6e75 5f31 3d42 6f6f 7420 y=1.menu_1=Boot
110: 6672 6f6d 206d 6963 726f 5344 2028 4641 from microSD (FA
-120: 542b 6578 7433 293a 2073 6574 656e 7620 T+ext3): setenv
+120: 542b 6578 7432 293a 2073 6574 656e 7620 T+ext2): setenv
130: 626f 6f74 6172 6773 2024 7b62 6f6f 7461 bootargs ${boota
140: 7267 735f 6261 7365 7d20 726f 6f74 6673 rgs_base} rootfs
-150: 7479 7065 3d65 7874 3320 726f 6f74 3d2f type=ext3 root=/
+150: 7479 7065 3d65 7874 3220 726f 6f74 3d2f type=ext2 root=/
160: 6465 762f 6d6d 6362 6c6b 3070 3220 726f dev/mmcblk0p2 ro
170: 6f74 6465 6c61 793d 3520 247b 6d74 6470 otdelay=5 ${mtdp
180: 6172 7473 7d20 726f 3b20 6d6d 6369 6e69 arts} ro; mmcini
And flashing back the old env:
nandwrite -p /dev/mtd2 uboot_env.bin
it boot fine again.
Where am I wrong?
Thank you very much and excuse me for my bad english.
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Re: nandwrite problem in writing uboot env (/dev/mtd2)
giacomo \giotti\ mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it writes: Where am I wrong? There's a CRC checkum. Use fw_setenv instead of vim. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
It Ain't funny [Was: Ain't it funny..]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Marcel wrote: I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such I call for the rule of Godwin's Law! Rui I had never heard of Godwin's Law until now! :O http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law I was sitting here puzzling over Marcel's comment, which I didn't understand: using this... deprecated language doesn't make me feel you really know what you're referencing there. This had me confused - I knew exactly what I meant! Totalitarian. I was trying to figure out what he was saying, and/or politely say I don't understand what you mean... then I read this: I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler or to Nazis to think a bit harder about the Holocaust and I said to myself: Oh, shit... I have been very ignorant, and now realise that I have said something very inappropriate. And I humbly and sincerely apologise for that. I feel pretty bad about this, especially the part where I couldn't figure out what Marcel was trying to say. Now I understand. and I feel like a complete dick. Sorry. Generally when I hear the word nazi used, it means totalitarian, not monster or mass murderer - think of the soup nazi in Seinfeld. That's what I meant. Not the other. *At All*. Sorry. The wiki page also says: when an adversary uses an inappropriate Hitler or Nazi comparison, you have only to say 'Godwin's Law' and a trapdoor falls open, plunging your rival into a pool of hungry crocodiles. Oh Noes, not crocodiles! The wiki page fails to mention any possible exclusion from this horrible fate for cases of extreme ignorance followed by sincere repentance... is there any such exclusion, or are the crocs already gnawing at my stupid ass? Seriously, please accept my apologies for this. I have learned something today. Thank you for enlightening me. - -Dale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKBFn/FbVnQRV3OEYRAtZKAKCUMaK3h6/h3h+9ky/xHoObRg5RJQCcClmG uI+eJe3qxhgy3sHyt/L5JkU= =dl+v -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcel wrote: Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 14:43:16 schrieb Dale Maggee: arne anka wrote: Guten Tag, Sieg Heil. ... beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country reflects that... :) ) wow. insulting and slimy at once! I'd just like to say thanks for addressing the points I make in such a calm and rational manner. If you were capable of being rational, you would have realised that I was referencing a totalitarian state, not a race, and then clarifying that I am not attempting to insult a race of people and that it's unfortunate that using your particular language happens to be a very effective way to express that. I do genuinely feel an affinity to your people, culture, and country. If you think that my being honest is being insulting and slimy, then whatever. I have already recieved one off-list email from a deutschlander who understood exactly what I was trying to say, so that indicates further to me that you're just being a fanboy and not thinking independently or even weighing my arguments - you see my posts, your mind closes, and you say troll like a reflex. And that's sad. If you would like to suggest a more appropriate way for me to have expressed what I wanted to, I would very much like to hear it. Note however that the sarcasm used in the greeting is important to my style, so any suggestion you might make would have to retain that. Also it would want to be short and effective. Alternatively, you're welcome to address the issues I'm raising. Or you could set up an email filter and consequently STFU. All are acceptable to me - I'm in favour of free speech. But true free speech requires rational dialogue, and I'm not seeing any rational dialogue from you. Dale, I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such an affair is completely inappropriate. You may like our country as much as you want, still using this... deprecated language doesn't make me feel you really know what you're referencing there. There are WAY better examples for freedom of speech. This is no more rationale than you may think the other's contributions to be. Yours sincerely, Marcel Marcel, I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?) You shouldn't be. I was wrong, and said something inappropriate through ignorance. Contradicting me is perfectly fine when I'm wrong - I'll learn from it! :) using this... deprecated language doesn't make me feel you really know what you're referencing there. Exactly. I had no Idea. I had meant one thing, and completely failed to realise that I was also implying something far, far worse. Please accept my apologies. I would also ask you to read my response to Rui's message. Kind Regards, - -Dale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKBF4MFbVnQRV3OEYRAqrSAKCaC51cep8DVrh+GdDndgnVbJHiIACgtXiD iUHCezfGlmimfbP70xMuMkM= =iyY7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 17:05 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 15:51:40 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:04:10PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: I was wondering if FR could function as a fax client so one could send text and picture files directly to fax numbers and if there is any interest in such an application. If there is some interest I will set this up as the next OM software comp on cofundus. How about a telephony suite that actually works? :) Some hacking marathon for paroli could help. Absolutely! Someone could work on the paroli config and actually implement this stuff: http://www.paroli-project.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/settings_full.png Tell me what the bounty is and maybe we can get an image up today ;) Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: where to get qi from? wiki has conflicting information. and, why is 2009 not listed in distros?
actually i can't find any qi stuff in http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ at the moment Michael Shiloh schrieb: Nelson Castillo wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org wrote: Nelson Castillo wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org wrote: I'm not looking for Qi, but I'm asking where should we tell people to find Qi. That is what I understood. Will it always be there? Should I change both references on the wiki to point at your directory? Not yet, let me coordinate first please. I'll update this thread soon. I just got the reply. The auto-builder puts Qi here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ Right now the latest is: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/qi-s3c2442-1.0.2+gitr237+c2a6b7ab3df7c1b68d47769f6e35733be1eaab58.udfu I think we should use this URI. Never send a human to do a machine's job.. Thanks for doing the research. Care to update the wiki? It's late here in CA and I'm ready to call it a day. M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
I would like a BT app (that works with FSO based distros). A GUI that allows you to find a headset and pair with it (preferably supporting A2DP), that allows you to send an receive files (I believe this is OBEX), etc. This is the feature I am currently missing most. -Steven On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:23 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: My idea is to have a large nummber of stable and interesting apps avaialble when stable telephony arrives on the FR. So I am looking at smaller projects - those that can be done in a month by one person. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Steven ** montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.commontgoss%2bopenmokocommun...@gmail.com , that allows you to send an receive files (I believe this is OBEX), etc. This is the feature I am currently missing most. -Steven Does copyu work for you to send files? Rakshat On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:23 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: My idea is to have a large nummber of stable and interesting apps avaialble when stable telephony arrives on the FR. So I am looking at smaller projects - those that can be done in a month by one person. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 05:58:52AM +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) I believe it's what they call an urban canyon. When you have something tall - usually a building - which reflects the GPS signals on one side of you, you will appear to be in a different position than where you really are. Whatch your HDOP values - it's the third of the slash separated values shown by TangoGPS on the main screen. If it's as much as 4.5, the position shown can easily be 30 - 40 m off. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Steven ** montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.com , that allows you to send an receive files (I believe this is OBEX), etc. This is the feature I am currently missing most. -Steven Does copyu work for you to send files? Rakshat I don't know what that is. But I know it's not installed on my Neo. -Steven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Get your facts straight... he doesn't use an fr No, I don't use one, but I own one. That's the whole problem: I had to buy another phone, just to have a phone. and he does in no way contribute http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool -- what do you call someone who lurks on a list he is in no way affiliated to Dunno. But that doesn't describe me. and posts repeatedly meanings consisting of only your point of interest is crap, everything you are talking about is crap and if you don't share my point of view you are idiots and nazis? This is what Christoph is talking about with his scientology reference - my emails are saying things that are not favorable to OM, and you therefore dismiss them without even really reading them. My emails contain significant points which you have entirely failed to address. Instead you focus on my tone, call me a troll, and tell me to shut up and go away. To me it sounds like you're not interested in freedom of speech. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKBHogFbVnQRV3OEYRAna3AJ0VQW4hncP6W31XJg7N+wDGOmIKlwCeOh+L wDixe2oUe1ALeokWfyzK85I= =KHzR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christoph Pulster wrote: IMO most misunderstandings happen because marketing of the Freerunner was focused on mobile phone. So customers expect a mobile phone to use as a mobile phone. However Freerunner is a multi-purpose developement plattform with GSM functionality among many other functionalities. Exactly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKBHrGFbVnQRV3OEYRAu3WAJ44Rmh+zoBielVKEkBWkzgQEuZ2NwCdHfSg /zHYEEJ6KHRatvcK4q0EzbU= =J9CR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: It Ain't funny [Was: Ain't it funny..]
Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 18:12:47 schrieb Dale Maggee: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Marcel wrote: I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such I call for the rule of Godwin's Law! Rui I had never heard of Godwin's Law until now! :O http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law I was sitting here puzzling over Marcel's comment, which I didn't understand: using this... deprecated language doesn't make me feel you really know what you're referencing there. This had me confused - I knew exactly what I meant! Totalitarian. I was trying to figure out what he was saying, and/or politely say I don't understand what you mean... then I read this: I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler or to Nazis to think a bit harder about the Holocaust and I said to myself: Oh, shit... I have been very ignorant, and now realise that I have said something very inappropriate. And I humbly and sincerely apologise for that. I feel pretty bad about this, especially the part where I couldn't figure out what Marcel was trying to say. Now I understand. and I feel like a complete dick. Sorry. Generally when I hear the word nazi used, it means totalitarian, not monster or mass murderer - think of the soup nazi in Seinfeld. That's what I meant. Not the other. *At All*. Sorry. The wiki page also says: when an adversary uses an inappropriate Hitler or Nazi comparison, you have only to say 'Godwin's Law' and a trapdoor falls open, plunging your rival into a pool of hungry crocodiles. Oh Noes, not crocodiles! The wiki page fails to mention any possible exclusion from this horrible fate for cases of extreme ignorance followed by sincere repentance... is there any such exclusion, or are the crocs already gnawing at my stupid ass? Seriously, please accept my apologies for this. I have learned something today. Thank you for enlightening me. Accepted. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
copyu failed for me on shr-testing 20090422. bluetooth was enabled but ive just found that you need to manually start the bluetooth through the terminal on other distributions. im going to try later this week again On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:13 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Steven ** montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.com , that allows you to send an receive files (I believe this is OBEX), etc. This is the feature I am currently missing most. -Steven Does copyu work for you to send files? Rakshat On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:23 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: My idea is to have a large nummber of stable and interesting apps avaialble when stable telephony arrives on the FR. So I am looking at smaller projects - those that can be done in a month by one person. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mokomaze as non-root
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 10:59:20PM -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
Not sure what all issues you're experiencing, but the accelerometers are
probably root:root access only (they are on mine, SHR-unstable), if that's
your problem. You can probably chmod them manually, but I'm sure you can mod
some conf somewhere to change it. Not sure what...
Comparing SHR unstable (from about 3 weeks ago)
/etc/udev/rules.d/permissions.rules
# input devices
KERNEL==event[0-9]*, ATTRS{name}==*dvb*|*DVB*|* IR * \
MODE=0664,GROUP=video
KERNEL==js[0-9]*, MODE=0664
KERNEL==lirc[0-9]*, GROUP=video
with Debian /lib/udev/rules.d/91-permissions.rules
# input devices
KERNEL==event[0-9]*, ATTRS{name}==*dvb*|*DVB*|* IR * \
MODE=0664,GROUP=video
KERNEL==js[0-9]*, MODE=0664
KERNEL==event[0-9]*, ENV{ID_CLASS}==joystick, \
MODE=0664,GROUP=audio
KERNEL==lirc[0-9]*, GROUP=video
there's a difference in the input device section and indeed I have some
input devices with group audio and read permission for everybody:
# ls -l /dev/input/
total 0
crw-rw 1 root root 13, 64 May 5 11:39 event0
crw-rw 1 root root 13, 65 May 5 11:39 event1
crw-rw-r-- 1 root audio 13, 66 May 5 11:39 event2
crw-rw-r-- 1 root audio 13, 67 May 5 11:39 event3
crw-rw 1 root root 13, 68 May 5 11:39 event4
crw-rw 1 root root 13, 63 May 5 11:39 mice
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Re: nandwrite problem in writing uboot env (/dev/mtd2)
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 05:34:59PM +0200, giacomo giotti mariani wrote: [snip] Where am I wrong? You're not using uboot-envedit from the fso-utils package. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
+1000 for having gui for easily pair to a Bt headset AND route the sound. This app is really missing, as a BT headset is the only way to avoid the anoying Buz without make surgery on my freerunner Pleaaasse ! :D 2009/5/8 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com copyu failed for me on shr-testing 20090422. bluetooth was enabled but ive just found that you need to manually start the bluetooth through the terminal on other distributions. im going to try later this week again On Fri, May 8, 2009a at 11:13 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Steven ** montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.commontgoss%2bopenmokocommun...@gmail.com , that allows you to send an receive files (I believe this is OBEX), etc. This is the feature I am currently missing most. -Steven Does copyu work for you to send files? Rakshat On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:23 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: My idea is to have a large nummber of stable and interesting apps avaialble when stable telephony arrives on the FR. So I am looking at smaller projects - those that can be done in a month by one person. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: expenses. The rework itself is essentially for free and Openmoko provides an additional free battery to make good your efforts and the time you don't have the Freerunner to use. I've tried to order this but when I try and pay via a credit card, I get a blank screen. I see that it warns about pop-up blockers on the page but I've even tried using IE6 (under Wine) and I still get the blank screen. Is the payment processing broken at the moment? Jon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: It Ain't funny [Was: Ain't it funny..]
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote: Generally when I hear the word nazi used, it means totalitarian, not monster or mass murderer - think of the soup nazi in Seinfeld. That's what I meant. Not the other. *At All*. Sorry. That just goes to show the meaning has gotten diluted from overuse, doesn't it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: where to get qi from? wiki has conflicting information. and, why is 2009 not listed in distros?
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Max Giesbert giesb...@exactt.de wrote: actually i can't find any qi stuff in http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ at the moment I was told the build scripts should fill the directory... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner as a wireless streamplayer?
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: O Domingo, 19 de Abril de 2009, MartinG escribiu: Is it possible to download an image, simply reflash the phone, connect to my wlan, and opkg/ipkg install a player that is able play streams from my local server? With shr you will be able to connect to your wlan with no extra software with mofi. Don't forget to turn on wifi on SHR-Settings before opening mofi Debian will be sightly more complex. You can download any of the mplayer frontends from www.opkg.org. Thanks for your feedback - I've (finally) installed SHR testing now. Looks quite nice, and was easy to reflash :). I've only tested it for half a day (and managed to crash/hardlock the thing several times already :/, but hey, maybe the best Freerunner software I've seen wrt look and feel). I managed to get Mofi working to connect to my wlan (WPA-PSK+AES). But, after suspend/resume, I'm not sure however how to get online again (over wlan). Maybe a know issue? (It seems I'm not able to enable wlan again in the settings) As for mplayer - are there any known to work mplayer frontends (or any other *player frontends) for SHR? I managed to get pythm work, but am not sure how to make it load files over the LAN. As a sidenote; I am not able to boot the device when USB is connected. Is this a know bug? Are there any known workarounds? -MartinG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Finger friendly keyboards
Hi, So far on my FR, I've mostly been typing non-dictionary words so the predictive keyboard has been getting in my way. I knew a few people had created finger friendly keyboards so I had a bit of a play. Firstly I tried EasyTouch_SHR: http://www.opkg.org/package_174.html But like many of the commenters on that page, it didn't work for me, first it altered my theme but also (as I didn't remove my other keyboards I suspect), all the keys on the keyboards overlapped each other. Then I tried Michal Brzozowski's keyboard: http://markmail.org/message/ufdue7qhlfjwabkn but I didn't like the design decision to design it around flexing the case. I started to create my own (which I may still do) but found if I just used the keyboard files from the EasyTouch_SHR it worked basically as I wanted. I just put the keyboard files (.kbd) from and the package into /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards (and moved the Default and Numbers keyboards to a backup directory). It's work very nicely on a recent SHR-Testing - maybe the keyboard files could be hosted separately or even better a minimal package could be made that just automated that. Has anyone else tried this? Jon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[openBmap] Release 0.3.0
Hello everyone! Here is the new release of the openBmap[1] GSM/GPS logger to build a free database of GSM coverage. Highlights: For the project: * We have a twitter feed[2]. It gets updated every time uploaded logs start getting processed. For the software: * Beta Neighbour cells log now stable and activated! We are still evaluating how to use it for map generation. Neighbours cells are not taken into account for statistics on main Webpage right now. * Log files are now much bigger, you should have less files to upload. * If logs in memory when exiting, they will be written to disk. * Ignore neighbour cell if lac, cid or rxlev is 0. * GUI now says: GPS is active, and waiting for 3D fix. * Fix: GPS time in log is now based on GPS data. Was using the local time of the phone. * When MCC changes, write logs to file. This means, a log file, only contains data related to a same MCC, that is to say, to one country. * Details in CHANGELOG. As usual thanks to Stefan and mrmoku for putting it into FSO and SHR feeds. ipk package available at sourceforge and opkg.org[3]. If anybody is interested in building a package for debian, please contact me! Comments, feedback, as usual are more than welcome. Onen [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenBmap [2] http://twitter.com/openBmap/ [3] http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 13:46 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Essentially I'm trying to understand how burdensome (or not) it can become for a simple sightseeing to also do tracking. OSM mapping isn't complicated. You decide how much time you want to spend on it. You can draw just roads, roads with names, or even add all sorts of features like mailboxes, housenumbers, parks, parking lots... That's great! If drawing road lines becomes too much of a burden for you, just upload the traces to osm and hope that someone else will use them for drawing. A problem with this approach is that others won't know how the track was recorded, so they might make a wrong road where you crossed a lawn and things like that. Agree. Other can use these track just as reference. I hope I can upload those tracks myself when I have more time. It's fun. Helge Hafting -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/5/7 Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.com: Podboy is a podcast aggregator/player written in Python/Elementary. http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/816/podboy_0.0.1-r0_all.ipk great stuff, trying it out now will you be hosting it in a repository of your own, or perhaps on opkg.org ? Yes, certainly opkg.org -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly keyboards
Jon Levell wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedHi, So far on my FR, I've mostly been typing non-dictionary words so the predictive keyboard has been getting in my way. Me too... Actually... I think I have only one finger friendly solution which will remedy that. What I wish for is a large transparent fullscreen keyboard which is activated by a short press on AUX. (long press = some menu) Combine this with auto-rotation and writing an SMS will just be turning you Neo and pressing AUX. You'll have large keys, to easily hit and you'll be able to see the text you write through the keyboard overlay. /Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 20:24 +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 05:58:52AM +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) I believe it's what they call an urban canyon. When you have something tall - usually a building - which reflects the GPS signals on one side of you, you will appear to be in a different position than where you really are. Whatch your HDOP values - it's the third of the slash separated values shown by TangoGPS on the main screen. If it's as much as 4.5, the position shown can easily be 30 - 40 m off. Thanks for the info. Very great to know more about GPS, not just track where you have been, also how to use GPS accurately. :) -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Version 0.4 of MokoGeocaching released
This is a litle gtk python script that searches the geocaching.com site for caches near your current position or a user specified lattitude and longitude and add the cache as a poi in tangogps. This is version 0.4 and the code is still not pretty but quite usable. The package can be found here http://www.opkg.org/package_141.html Warning: I have only tested it on shr unstable The script can now: - get gps location from phone - user can manually set location - user can specify range - script can download matching geocaches and add as poi - read geocaching.com username and password from configuration file - threaded gtk and downloading - but unfortunately not searching - unicode support - gui input for username and password - user can specify whether he wants to download already found caches or skip them and whether he wants to download just caches of a specific type - hints are downloaded and user can specify if hints will be displayed encoded or decoded - coordversion is added. It's a tool to convert coordinates in their different presentations (see below) Future plans: code commenting and sanitizing threaded search Coordversion: You can convert coordinates from one presentation into the two others by entering the given coordinates into the matching row and press the at the end of the line. The other fields will be updated or the status field will display an error. The three presentations are: row - presentation - example - first row - decimal degree - 52.12346 013.98765 second row - degree, decimal minutes - 52 7.4076 13 59.259 third row - degree, minutes, decimal seconds - 52 7 24 11 179 15 You can add the coordinate you just converted as poi into tangogps. Therefore you can specify a name (which will be the title of the poi) and click on add as poi. ATTENTION: It will always be added the point which is currently in the FIRST ROW (decimal degree field). In the two fields below you can enter bearing values in degree and kilometers. By clicking the button in the same row the program will calculate the new coordinates to the given coordinates (again taken from the first row) the angle and the distance and display them in the fields below. From there you can move the new coordinates up again by clicking ^ to keep converting them into other presentations or add them as a poi. Example: You are on a geocaching Trip and on one stage you get the coordinates 52 30.87294, 013 21.003738 and are told to go 150 meters in 45°. You would enter the coordinates into the second row and press the button next to it to get the decimal degree presentation into the first row (52.514549, 13.3500623). Then you would enter 45 and 0.15 in the bearing fields and hit . The new coordinates are displayed below. By pressing ^ you bring the new coordinates up again. Now you can, for example, add a nice name like Stage 2 on my multi and press add as poi. The new poi should now be visible in tangogps. Installation: install python-sqlite3 python-pygtk python-pygtk python-netclient python-mime run mokogeocaching.py or use the mokogeocaching icon located in the launcher. Mokogeocaching works best with tangogps 0.9.6 because of a bug in 0.9.5 where tangogps crashes if a poi i larger than 1500 charaters. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 12:42:42AM +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: So taking in account your comments above this means the problem case is intentionally shutting down the device during charging from solarpanel. 1) I don't see why anybody should do this To save energy for later. 2) this should be handled during shutdown, rather than all the time by syncing BAT_CURLIM with USB_CURLIM. I'll give it a try. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Valery Febvre wrote: Podboy is a podcast aggregator/player written in Python/Elementary. Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly. I've just seen the screenshots but the interface is very cool. Compliments ;) Thx It uses Feedparser Python module for download/parsing of podcast feeds, I've not tried it, so I'm only figuring this, but not to block the interface you could use the ecore_con (ecore_file_download) functions to retrieve the data. Are you sure that ecore_file has a Python bindings available? Gstreamer for playing of episodes and SQLite for storing data. Is it gstreamer better than mplayer (from the performance point of view)? No. -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
DON'T PANIC
DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/bootsplash DON'T PANIC.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] I18N
hers...@puzzle.ch wrote: hello all, i just want to make my shr-installation german.. i installed diffrent packages to make that: tangogps-locale-de locale-base-de-ch claws-mail-locale-de gpe-calendar-locale-de glibc-binary-localedata-de-ch shr-settings-locale-de libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2-locale-de libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-locale-de but there isn't anything german. so, is anywhere a config-file with which make's possible to change? i also search the enlightement-de-package.. in one installation, it was possible to select german as language, which package should be used for this? hope for help :) greets Like in every normal GNU/Linux distribution create an executable sh script in /etc/profile.d/ (better to name it lang.sh) where put lines #!/bin/sh export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 do not forget to make it executable. /etc/profile is responsible for launching that script. good luck signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
LOL It's a pitty Qi doesn't has bootsplash It really fits 2009/5/9 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org: DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/bootsplash ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: LOL It's a pitty Qi doesn't has bootsplash It really fits +1 2009/5/9 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org: DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/bootsplash ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Re: DON'T PANIC
Am Sa 9. Mai 2009 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/bootsplash btw this is obviously complemetary to http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr-overlay.git;a=blob;f=openembedded/recipes/shr/shr-splash-theme-dontpanic_git.bb;h=b834874c02312ca571157ba664c438e7a79ab61b;hb=26908b589b17b8a5c11e66a1451bd58c6f45baeb Together this should make for a smooth splashscreen experience under SHR /j For the record: idea DocScrutinizer (jOERG), artwork Dos1 (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: nandwrite problem in writing uboot env (/dev/mtd2)
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes: You're not using uboot-envedit from the fso-utils package. uboot-envedit is horribly slow. fw_setenv is in debian main and works faster. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: +1000 for having gui for easily pair to a Bt headset AND route the sound. This app is really missing, as a BT headset is the only way to avoid the anoying Buz without make surgery on my freerunner How about just starting by writing down a list of headsets that work with freerunner so that people know what to buy? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
is there anything you can do about the audio cutting in and out with opening applications or while the device is going into auto-dimming while playing? On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie wrote: c_c wrote: Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: hum doesn't work with om 2009 can you post the error? Simple, mplayer and other dependencies are not in the default feeds (http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing) As already stated, i managed to install everything by following Kustomizer for OM2009 instructions (http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX) Chris Christian Gagneraud wrote: Thank you for your work, it looks cute! You're Welcome. @kimaidou - Here's the deb package. I haven't checked it on my phone (since I don't have debian) and I haven't added any dependencies cause I don't know what the packages are called. So can you tell me the full names of the following packages on debian ? -elementary (providing libelementary) -mplayer -sqlite3 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2843962/intone-0.40.deb intone-0.40.deb @Marcel-2 - I'm not sure what you mean. I've made a deb package for installing intone on a debian system. I hope the latest versions of elementary are available for debian. This version needs the newer libraries. @Yorick Moko - You're using a distribution with the older libraries. The newer libraries use names like 'libehal-ver-pre-01.so.0'. I'll release a ipk for the older libraries soon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly keyboards
Peter Mogensen a...@bigendian.dk writes: Actually... I think I have only one finger friendly solution which will remedy that. What I wish for is a large transparent fullscreen keyboard xcompmgr + xvkbd can already do that but I found smaller keyboard actually faster to use since I don't need to move my fingers that much. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner as a wireless streamplayer?
2009/5/9 MartinG grons...@gmail.com: As for mplayer - are there any known to work mplayer frontends (or any other *player frontends) for SHR? I managed to get pythm work, but am not sure how to make it load files over the LAN. intone is great. no idea if it will play files over a LAN though As a sidenote; I am not able to boot the device when USB is connected. Is this a know bug? Are there any known workarounds? huh? mine boots fine when it's plugged into USB. in fact, this is the only way i can 'revive' it when the battery goes completely flat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
Il giorno sab, 09/05/2009 alle 00.52 +0200, Pander ha scritto: David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: LOL It's a pitty Qi doesn't has bootsplash It really fits +1 +2 but here's my illume bg http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/6f20a27ca0dd0d8731aae98ae93f39b2.png if you like it i can make that img available, it's not really good but it's funny. Pietro And remember the answer :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] kernel with working g_ether to Windoze connection?
Odd, I'm running that on my FR still and never noticed that. If you're interested, I stuffed a few other kernels up there as well. (I'd picked that one because it was mid-april, and ID'd as 2.6.28) Feb2: http://newkirk.us/om/testing/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin http://newkirk.us/om/testing/modules-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.tgz Feb26: http://newkirk.us/om/testing/uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02.bin http://newkirk.us/om/testing/modules-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02.tgz Mar19: http://newkirk.us/om/testing/uImage-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr119749+1e257a0e99817a338e3706708ebb5036518e46d8-r3-om-gta02.bin http://newkirk.us/om/testing/modules-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr119749+1e257a0e99817a338e3706708ebb5036518e46d8-r3-om-gta02.tgz Apr15: http://newkirk.us/om/testing/uImage-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr119789+9a690f4~33bbeeba62ff28ae38ff7f869e4b05-r3-om-gta02.bin I thought I had another one from early April, but can't find it anywhere now. j On Fri, 8 May 2009 16:46:54 +0200 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK this is a .28 mispelled... or at least is what uname -r answers (2.6.29-rc3)... anyway you've been very kind ;-) but i still don't have wifi working. f On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much! I'm downloading it... i'll give feedback. Thanks d On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.uswrote: On Thu, 7 May 2009 18:31:39 +0200 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: I am searching for a really olg 2.6.28 kernel... (and not a .28 mispelled that in fact it's a .29...) where can i find it? (I'm talking about something of the mid april...) thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-testing] pimlico dates
my last question about pimlico dates came back with no responses. so here is to hopeing... it seems that dates is not getting the correct day from the device. running the date command in the terminal displays friday may 8th. but hitting the today button inside of dates selects saturday may 9th. i thought the year was wrong but it is correct. i dont see much information for the app on the wiki page or the program page so im wondering if there is anyone out on the list with any ideas - jeremy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
Dale Maggee wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Steve, I appreciate your replying to this thread. I would however point out that I believe that you should have already been aware of this issue before I raised it in this public mailing list: I sent three emails to Openmoko asking about getting a refund, and received no reply to any of them. I've pasted these emails below, after the ---BEGIN EMAIL THREAD--- Line. You were cc'd in two of these emails (the ones saying I've had no reply). I eventually got a response from Tony Tu on the trac ticket, at which point I stopped sending emails to you. Dale, as you can well imagine since I receive mail every single time a FR is ordered, since I receive mail every time we get a request for a return, since I receive mail from the community list and the developer list and since I received mail from cont...@openmoko univers...@openmoko.. oh heck every public mail we have plus I have my email on every press release, you can well imagine that I might have forgotten your name. But I didn't. Two people handled the RMAs on product purchased from OM store. And with Tony on the job I just assumed it would handled. I've been informed that we dont have a record a record of you purchasing the phone from us. That probably explains why Tony could not process the return. As I've indicated, I've already gone through the process of requesting a refund for the device, and this was declined. I think you should be able to find all the info you need at https://support.openmoko.com/trac/ticket/36 Yes. As I stated above we have no record of you purchaing the phone at our store: openmoko.com If you purchased it elsewhere please let me know. All of the guys here who have dealt with me will tell you that I'm a fair and reasonable person. I think that if you want to discuss the refund issue with me, it may be more appropriate to do so off-list, but I realise that I may have created a public image issue for you here (given my usage of the words thieves and defrauded), and that you may therefore want to keep this public. If you're willing to work with me to resolve my grievances and prove my assertions incorrect, then I'd be more than happy to come back here and retract my previous statements once it's resolved :). That might be more appropriate, rather than flooding the mailing list with what will effectively be back-and-forth personal conversations between you and me. but if you want to discuss it in this public place I have no problem with that either - up to you. Makes no difference to me. If I handled this privately I'm sure some lunatic down the road who slam me for taking it private and launch into yact, yet another conspiracy theory. You put your return request into the RMA process for the Openmoko store. For that process to work we have to be able to find you in the database. So, if you could verify that you did in fact purchase the phone from that store ( the sn and imei would help) Then I can do two things: 1. Figure out how the heck the system didnt capture your information 2. Process your return. WRT your language. If I took offense, then I'd be a thief. ( that's a joke.. took a fence) Seriously, I'm no person to lecture people about having a colorful way of expressing anger. I'll just say that some weapons have more collateral damage then others. And sometimes you can frag yourself, intentionally or otherwise, if you don't get clear of the blast zone. Since having my application for a refund declined, I had come to kind of accept that I had been screwed, and I have since bought another phone. Since I did that, I've (in my less angry moments) come to see the FR as a kind-of-cool little open-source device, as long as you don't want to use it as a phone. I haven't really done anything much with it, because so far I've been too angry to really even look at it, but I will admit that it does have potential for something, even if it's not as a reliable phone. I'll check from my side but did they give you a reason for being declined. (That's my whole point, by the way: That it's not a usable phone, even after a year of waiting, and I bought it because I wanted a working open source phone, and I was told that the FR would meet that requirement). I would therefore perhaps be open to accepting a partial refund and keeping the device as a PDA-sized linux device (The AU Laws allow for that), even if I never use it. But I think that if this were to happen I would maybe not feel cheated anymore and could possibly once again enjoy participating constructively in the community. Let's see what turns up when I get the ID numbers I requested. If you bought it from somebody else, then there might be a variety of remedies. But here in the states to process a return proof of purchase is required. Again, I'm not insinuating that you didnt
Re: DON'T PANIC
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/bootsplash +1 for the H2G2 reference :D Regards Sudharshan S ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
