Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: 2009/6/19 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Al Johnson You can even talk on the phone when FR is suspended! (yes, this is because Calypso, the GSM chip is separated from the main processor) openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: I was going to say it was a bug because having the audio chip powered during suspend is a power leak. It sounds like this has been fixed. Yepp, but the phone could be clever enough, that if it suspends during the call, it leaves the audio chip powered. this (leaving the audio powered on) would be very nice to have as a configurable option. someone who takes lots of incoming calls (say a service tech), could well benefit from it. Nice idea, would you please file a ticket on OM trac as a wishlist to System Software and set milestone to 2009-stable so it won't be forgotten? -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure: Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging , the phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have to put the battery off. It happens after a suspend. with any contact. It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry keeping the search... I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of logread to a pc. I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;( I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: App for remotely controlling jukebox software
Sam Kuper wrote: Is there any software for the Freerunner that, with minimal tweaking, lets it take the place of the iPhone or iPod Touch in a setup like this?[1] Have you looked at xmms2 and mpd (music player daemon). both are music players based on a client server model. you run the server on a computer that has speakers and has the music files (can be mounted over the network). then you run one of the many clients on any computer on the network. it looks like there is at least a mpd client for openmoko http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pythm Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] mplayer inits, but doesn't play
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Marceltan...@googlemail.com wrote: I've had this issue in 2009t4 and now also in t5. mplayer inits all the way long until it would actually play the file, Don't know much about anything but try this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Audio_problems -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jose Luis Perez Diezperezd...@gmail.com wrote: El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure: Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging , the phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have to put the battery off. It happens after a suspend. with any contact. It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry keeping the search... I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of logread to a pc. I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;( I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5. Please post the logs to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ with the bug rep!! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Jose Luis Perez Diez perezd...@gmail.comwrote: El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure: Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging , the phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have to put the battery off. It happens after a suspend. with any contact. It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry keeping the search... I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of logread to a pc. I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;( If you have ssh access you can stop it with : echo none /sys/class/leds/neo1973:vibrator/trigger I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB ste...@le-roux.info 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
2009/6/19 Jose Luis Perez Diez perezd...@gmail.com El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure: Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging , the phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have to put the battery off. It happens after a suspend. with any contact. It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry keeping the search... I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of logread to a pc. I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;( I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5. I had the phone go into unresumable suspend. I received a call while it was suspended, it woke up and I answered the call. I don't remember if I put it down or the other side. Then the phone went to suspend again, and there was another call coming, I heard it in my radios speakers, but the phone didn't wake up. I didn't wake up with the power button as well. I restarted it and tried to get the logs (/var/log/..), but it seems frameworkd only keeps a small portion of them, as the logs from before the restart got overwritten. I tried to reproduce the same scenario by myself, but without success. Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting them? Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
2009/6/20 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting them? easy - create a script which runs at shutdown, to copy the log file(s) in question to an archive location. maybe in one of the change-runlevel folders? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] wpa-exiting with code 1 ???
Hi guys, i'm experiencing some problems with shr unstable... so i downloaded the last one (20090617) and I use that with my favourite kernel (2.28-rc4) with its modules... but the problem still remains: when i try to connect to my home-wifi i get: r...@om-gta02 /etc/network $ ifup eth0 WPA: Configuring Interface ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with code 1 do you have any idea? thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
2009/6/19 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com 2009/6/20 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting them? easy - create a script which runs at shutdown, to copy the log file(s) in question to an archive location. maybe in one of the change-runlevel folders? That doesn't help in a situation where you turn off the phone by taking out the battery. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] mplayer inits, but doesn't play
Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2009 10:24:07 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Marceltan...@googlemail.com wrote:
I've had this issue in 2009t4 and now also in t5.
mplayer inits all the way long until it would actually play the file,
Don't know much about anything but try this:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Audio_problems
snd-pcm-oss doesn't help, mplayer still cannot find /dev/dsp. But anyway
it should use alsa and no oss-workaround...
Another issue: I called the neo from landline just to see if it helps
(sets gsmhandset.state I suppose...). Paroli doesn't notice that I
cancelled the call on landline and continues vibrating. No ringtone. And
Paroli seems to have crashed, too...
[Appending the log tail hoping someone can interpret that... Seems like
frameworkd marks the call as released but Paroli doesn't notice...?]
r...@d-a318:~# tail -n 50 /var/log/frameworkd.log
2009.06.19 15:57:35.691 ogsmdDEBUG+CRING, but call
status already ok: ignoring
2009.06.19 15:57:35.706 ogsmd.channelDEBUGCallChannel via
/dev/pts/2: got 17 bytes: '\r\n+CRING: VOICE\r\n'
2009.06.19 15:57:35.716 ogsmdWARNING CALLCHANNEL:
UNHANDLED INTERMEDIATE: +CRING: VOICE
2009.06.19 15:57:36.11 odeviced.idlenotifier DEBUGactive = False
2009.06.19 15:57:37.9 odeviced.idlenotifier DEBUGactive = False
2009.06.19 15:57:38.11 odeviced.idlenotifier DEBUGactive = False
2009.06.19 15:57:38.661 ogsmd.channelDEBUGMiscChannel via
/dev/pts/0: got 17 bytes: '\r\n+CRING: VOICE\r\n'
2009.06.19 15:57:38.672 ogsmd.modems.abstract.channel WARNING UNHANDLED
INTERMEDIATE: +CRING: VOICE
2009.06.19 15:57:38.683 ogsmd.channelDEBUG
UnsolicitedResponseChannel via /dev/pts/1: got 39 bytes: '\r\n+CRING:
VOICE\r\n\r\n+CLIP: ,1281\r\n'
2009.06.19 15:57:38.694 ogsmdDEBUG+CRING, but call
status already ok: ignoring
2009.06.19 15:57:38.709 ogsmd.channelDEBUGCallChannel via
/dev/pts/2: got 17 bytes: '\r\n+CRING: VOICE\r\n'
2009.06.19 15:57:38.719 ogsmdWARNING CALLCHANNEL:
UNHANDLED INTERMEDIATE: +CRING: VOICE
2009.06.19 15:57:39.9 odeviced.idlenotifier DEBUGactive = False
2009.06.19 15:57:39.47 ogsmd.channelDEBUG
UnsolicitedResponseChannel via /dev/pts/1: got 29 bytes: '\r\n%CPI:
1,1,0,1,1,031,0\r\n'
2009.06.19 15:57:39.63 ogsmd.device INFO
org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.CallStatus: 1 release {'status': 'release'}
2009.06.19 15:57:39.100 oeventsd.fso_triggers INFO Receive CallStatus,
status = release
2009.06.19 15:57:39.112 oeventsd.trigger DEBUGtrigger CallStatus
2009.06.19 15:57:39.121 oeventsd.fso_triggers DEBUGTrigger
CallListContains(active)
2009.06.19 15:57:39.130 oeventsd.ruleWARNING Untrigger for
'CallListContains(active)' called, but not yet triggered. Not untriggering
2009.06.19 15:57:39.142 oeventsd.fso_triggers INFO Receive CallStatus,
status = release
2009.06.19 15:57:39.153 oeventsd.trigger DEBUGtrigger CallStatus
2009.06.19 15:57:39.162 oeventsd.fso_triggers DEBUGTrigger
CallListContains(incoming)
2009.06.19 15:57:39.172 oeventsd.trigger DEBUGuntrigger
CallListContains(incoming)
2009.06.19 15:57:39.183 oeventsd.fso_triggers INFO Receive CallStatus,
status = release
2009.06.19 15:57:39.200 oeventsd.trigger DEBUGtrigger CallStatus
2009.06.19 15:57:39.209 oeventsd.fso_triggers DEBUGTrigger
CallListContains(incoming)
2009.06.19 15:57:39.219 oeventsd.trigger DEBUGuntrigger
CallListContains(incoming)
2009.06.19 15:57:39.229 oeventsd.trigger DEBUGuntrigger While
CallListContains(incoming) if ~(CallListContains(active)) then
[SetBrightness((90,))]
2009.06.19 15:57:39.244 oeventsd.fso_triggers INFO Receive CallStatus,
status = release
Re: App for remotely controlling jukebox software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin, Am 18.06.2009 um 02:33 schrieb Sam Kuper: Is there any software for the Freerunner that, with minimal tweaking, lets it take the place of the iPhone or iPod Touch in a setup like this?[1] [1] http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/#tutorial=wirelessmusic currently i am working on a GTK-app similar to and inspired by http://dacp.jsharkey.org/ i think by the end of next week i'll be able to release some alpha- like version .. cheers, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: mor...@morlac.de Jabber: mor...@skavaer.homelinux.org - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFKO55Rr81gVylJyzERAtJ/AJ4/X2g38ddJTAOVEqO9/+J7czMojgCgrSTh 2DWLqNiebWzNvOkCiGZc6Z0= =UZn3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2009/6/19 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com 2009/6/20 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting them? easy - create a script which runs at shutdown, to copy the log file(s) in question to an archive location. maybe in one of the change-runlevel folders? That doesn't help in a situation where you turn off the phone by taking out the battery. Unless you launch the script at *startup* :) Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] mplayer inits, but doesn't play
On June 19, 2009 08:04:39 am Marcel wrote: Another issue: I called the neo from landline just to see if it helps (sets gsmhandset.state I suppose...). Paroli doesn't notice that I cancelled the call on landline and continues vibrating. No ringtone. And Paroli seems to have crashed, too... [Appending the log tail hoping someone can interpret that... Seems like frameworkd marks the call as released but Paroli doesn't notice...?] Please open a bug and post the full frameworkd and paroli logs. Thanks Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2009 16:21:26 schrieb Nicola Mfb: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2009/6/19 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com 2009/6/20 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting them? easy - create a script which runs at shutdown, to copy the log file(s) in question to an archive location. maybe in one of the change-runlevel folders? That doesn't help in a situation where you turn off the phone by taking out the battery. Unless you launch the script at *startup* :) And this startup script could replace the actual logfile with a symlink to a location on the sd card or similar. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS IN OM 2009
How do i use GPS in OM 2009? TangoGPS? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPS-IN-OM-2009-tp3120325p3120325.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] mplayer inits, but doesn't play
Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2009 16:32:00 schrieb Angus Ainslie: On June 19, 2009 08:04:39 am Marcel wrote: Another issue: I called the neo from landline just to see if it helps (sets gsmhandset.state I suppose...). Paroli doesn't notice that I cancelled the call on landline and continues vibrating. No ringtone. And Paroli seems to have crashed, too... [Appending the log tail hoping someone can interpret that... Seems like frameworkd marks the call as released but Paroli doesn't notice...?] Please open a bug and post the full frameworkd and paroli logs. Thanks Angus Oh. Eeeh. Just took a look at the Neo before ssh'ing in and noticed Paroli's there again, but actually doing something with it takes ages... Report is here: http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ticket/192 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On June 19, 2009 07:27:49 am Michal Brzozowski wrote: Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting them? Michal Check here under log directory http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009#Using_OM2009 Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
Hi! OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks like that also the releasing of Community Updates (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped (actually the 'news' link has been removed from wiki main navigation). Brenda Wang wrote: Two days ago, I read the documentation list, there's some request about the link of wiki side bar. So I removed the news' link from wiki main navigation two days ago. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2943035|a2952101 I will add it back when next updates released. Regards Brenda Wang So we have to do it. I think it's vital for the community to have some kind of newsletter that allows one to have a quick look at what's happened, if you don't follow the mailing lists and IRC daily. I started the draft page here for the next updates: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009 Please add there everything that's happened since May 22nd. Adding news 1. Don't trust that someone else will add it, add it yourself and make it clean 2. Add links to blog posts, applications, mailing list posts that you think are worth to announce to the whole community Releasing 1. If it's The Release Date and you notice the news has not been released, DO IT! Don't trust that someone else will do it for you. 2. When you release, move the content of Talk: page to the actual wikipage. 3. Add a link to the released update page to http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates 4. Prepare the draft page for the next community news: captions, dates etc.. Releasing news on Thursdays every two weeks sound's good to me. 5. Send a post to the community mailing list with the link to the released news and the draft of the next news. The rules are also at http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates#Rules_for_community_updates r (hey, I just started this again, don't trust me to push it any further, do it yourself :D -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/YOUR-action-is-needed-to-get-the-Community-Updates-up---running-again-tp3115540p3120449.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] mplayer inits, but doesn't play
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 17:42, Marceltan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2009 16:32:00 schrieb Angus Ainslie: On June 19, 2009 08:04:39 am Marcel wrote: Another issue: I called the neo from landline just to see if it helps (sets gsmhandset.state I suppose...). Paroli doesn't notice that I cancelled the call on landline and continues vibrating. No ringtone. And Paroli seems to have crashed, too... [Appending the log tail hoping someone can interpret that... Seems like frameworkd marks the call as released but Paroli doesn't notice...?] Please open a bug and post the full frameworkd and paroli logs. Thanks Angus Oh. Eeeh. Just took a look at the Neo before ssh'ing in and noticed Paroli's there again, but actually doing something with it takes ages... Report is here: http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ticket/192 Do you have speech-dispatcher installed? If yes, then do: opkg remove -force-depends speech-dispatcher It's all evil, and it's unneeded. It should be removed from navit dependences, or fixed to work correctly on Neo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Hi! OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks like that also the releasing of Community Updates (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped Hooray! It's less than a year sine the FR commercial release and it's already abandonware! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/YOUR-action-is-needed-to-get-the-Community-Updates-up---running-again-tp3115540p3120549.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: The community transition should be announced with an help call for every kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering servers, developing, general coordination, transition news and so on. Maybe we could start a TODO list somewhere on the Wiki? I'm sure lots of people could help, but they need a clue about what needs to be done. I'd even post a list to the wiki, if I knew what needed to be done. Gerald. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 17:59, Gothnetopenm...@nastylittlehorse.net wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Hi! OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks like that also the releasing of Community Updates (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped Hooray! It's less than a year sine the FR commercial release and it's already abandonware! I don't think Openmoko support is really needed, and I would not call FR abandonware. More - it's now better than even before (SHR), and it looks it will be much better than now in near future (Cornucopia). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
VERY GOOD IDEA INDEED! thanks risto d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS IN OM 2009
or omgps, which is much friendlier to the battery life than tangoGPS 2009/6/19 Benny Källström benny.kallst...@multi.fi How do i use GPS in OM 2009? TangoGPS? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPS-IN-OM-2009-tp3120325p3120325.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS IN OM 2009
Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2009 19:28:36 schrieb jeremy jozwik: or omgps, which is much friendlier to the battery life than tangoGPS 2009/6/19 Benny Källström benny.kallst...@multi.fi How do i use GPS in OM 2009? TangoGPS? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPS-IN-OM-2009-tp3120325p3120325.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. But it doesn't support POIs yet afaik... -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
using North American Freerunner in Paris?
I have a North American version of the Freerunner (850/1800/1900MHz), but I'm going to be moving to Paris for 2 years starting in the Fall. Does anyone know anything about whether it will work there? Is the 1800MHz coverage any good, or is there only 900MHz in a lot of places? It will be most important in and around Paris, but if you have info about the rest of France and Europe, please share that as well, since I'll want to do at least some traveling while I have the chance. Also, since I'm spamming the list anyway, if anyone has any other useful information it would be much appreciated (Do all providers provide gprs? Is it better to sign a contract or pay as you go? Is there anything I need to know about French cell phone providers? or France in general? etc.). As you can probably tell I'm from the U.S., and I'm just starting to learn French, so it's a little difficult for me to get a lot of good information. I apologize if this is not an appropriate use of the mailing list, but I haven't been able to find any information specifically about the 900MHz vs. 1800MHz in France and I figured if anyone knows it will be people on this list. Thanks in advance Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS IN OM 2009
true, but you can do on map sketching for notes On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2009 19:28:36 schrieb jeremy jozwik: or omgps, which is much friendlier to the battery life than tangoGPS 2009/6/19 Benny Källström benny.kallst...@multi.fi How do i use GPS in OM 2009? TangoGPS? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPS-IN-OM-2009-tp3120325p3120325.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. But it doesn't support POIs yet afaik... -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using North American Freerunner in Paris?
my 900/1800/1900 works in north america so i would deduce yes, yes it will On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Matt Luzum mlu...@gmail.com wrote: I have a North American version of the Freerunner (850/1800/1900MHz), but I'm going to be moving to Paris for 2 years starting in the Fall. Does anyone know anything about whether it will work there? Is the 1800MHz coverage any good, or is there only 900MHz in a lot of places? It will be most important in and around Paris, but if you have info about the rest of France and Europe, please share that as well, since I'll want to do at least some traveling while I have the chance. Also, since I'm spamming the list anyway, if anyone has any other useful information it would be much appreciated (Do all providers provide gprs? Is it better to sign a contract or pay as you go? Is there anything I need to know about French cell phone providers? or France in general? etc.). As you can probably tell I'm from the U.S., and I'm just starting to learn French, so it's a little difficult for me to get a lot of good information. I apologize if this is not an appropriate use of the mailing list, but I haven't been able to find any information specifically about the 900MHz vs. 1800MHz in France and I figured if anyone knows it will be people on this list. Thanks in advance Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using North American Freerunner in Paris?
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:44 PM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: my 900/1800/1900 works in north america so i would deduce yes, yes it will On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Matt Luzum mlu...@gmail.com wrote: I have a North American version of the Freerunner (850/1800/1900MHz), but I'm going to be moving to Paris for 2 years starting in the Fall. Does anyone know anything about whether it will work there? Is the 1800MHz coverage any good, or is there only 900MHz in a lot of places? It will be most important in and around Paris, but if you have info about the rest of France and Europe, please share that as well, since I'll want to do at least some traveling while I have the chance. Also, since I'm spamming the list anyway, if anyone has any other useful information it would be much appreciated (Do all providers provide gprs? Is it better to sign a contract or pay as you go? Is there anything I need to know about French cell phone providers? or France in general? etc.). As you can probably tell I'm from the U.S., and I'm just starting to learn French, so it's a little difficult for me to get a lot of good information. I apologize if this is not an appropriate use of the mailing list, but I haven't been able to find any information specifically about the 900MHz vs. 1800MHz in France and I figured if anyone knows it will be people on this list. Thanks in advance Matt While I can't speak for France, I've used my FR in Italy with a local pre-paid SIM without issue. Cheers, Cameron 'Toaster' Frazier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Gerald Ageraldabli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: The community transition should be announced with an help call for every kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering servers, developing, general coordination, transition news and so on. Maybe we could start a TODO list somewhere on the Wiki? I'm sure lots of people could help, but they need a clue about what needs to be done. Exactly! About development I propose to expose peoples, projects and what is missing, an example: critical new openmoko community core development: *) FSO team is developing the middleware, they need c/vala experts, funding :) *) Mirko is working on Paroli, help is needed to create a a good wifi manager plugin *) Angus is working on om2009, openembedded experts are welcome *) Nelson, Luca, etc. is working on kernel, some guru needed or donate a debug board *) Thomas, Andreas etc. is working on xorg glamo, drm/dri experts are welcome *) xxx, yyy maintains the server infrastructure, gforge experts needed ... other community development: *) c_c is working on audio/video mediaplayer *) xxx is working on bluetooth manager *) yyy is adapting linphone UI for small devices *) zzz and www is testing qlwm for arm and writing qt applications to create a new and complete qt/x11 gui phone stack over fso, every qt developer is welcome *) xxx is working to support wpa2/enterprise in connman *) shr *) debian *) hackable:1 *) neovento *) gentoo *) qtmoko/qtimproved We need discussion boards too: *) how to use better the aux and power buttons *) killing freezed x11 fullscreen applications *) the wanted systray support *) windows manager status *) x11 server over qtimproved *) improving the user interaction with accelerometers *) long term architecture for om2010 ... The same for other tasks, there are few human resources, we need organization and coordination. Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using North American Freerunner in Paris?
Clarification, I have a N.American FR. Apologies. Cheers, Cameron 'Toaster' Frazier On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Cameron Frazierfrazier.came...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:44 PM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: my 900/1800/1900 works in north america so i would deduce yes, yes it will On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Matt Luzum mlu...@gmail.com wrote: I have a North American version of the Freerunner (850/1800/1900MHz), but I'm going to be moving to Paris for 2 years starting in the Fall. Does anyone know anything about whether it will work there? Is the 1800MHz coverage any good, or is there only 900MHz in a lot of places? It will be most important in and around Paris, but if you have info about the rest of France and Europe, please share that as well, since I'll want to do at least some traveling while I have the chance. Also, since I'm spamming the list anyway, if anyone has any other useful information it would be much appreciated (Do all providers provide gprs? Is it better to sign a contract or pay as you go? Is there anything I need to know about French cell phone providers? or France in general? etc.). As you can probably tell I'm from the U.S., and I'm just starting to learn French, so it's a little difficult for me to get a lot of good information. I apologize if this is not an appropriate use of the mailing list, but I haven't been able to find any information specifically about the 900MHz vs. 1800MHz in France and I figured if anyone knows it will be people on this list. Thanks in advance Matt While I can't speak for France, I've used my FR in Italy with a local pre-paid SIM without issue. Cheers, Cameron 'Toaster' Frazier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2009] airplane mode
I'm spending about 4 or 5 hours on an airplane tomorrow, and I was wondering if there was a way to make OM2009 safe for use on an airplane - similar to the 'airplane mode' that QTEI provides. I know that there's no UI for it - but is there something I can kill, or some dbus magic I can do to address this? Warren -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using North American Freerunner in Paris?
jeremy jozwik wrote: my 900/1800/1900 works in north america so i would deduce yes, yes it will Well, I do know that almost everywhere in the US uses the 1900MHz band (the phone T-mobile sold me 6 years ago doesn't even work with 850MHz, so I had to buy a different one that would work near my parents' house in the rural midwest). My impression was that this isn't the case for Europe in general, though. It certainly seems a bit much to assume that they only use the 1800MHz band most places, although it would be great for me if that is the case. Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using North American Freerunner in Paris?
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Matt Luzummlu...@gmail.com wrote: I have a North American version of the Freerunner (850/1800/1900MHz), but I'm going to be moving to Paris for 2 years starting in the Fall. Does anyone know anything about whether it will work there? Is the 1800MHz coverage any good, or is there only 900MHz in a lot of places? It will be most important in and around Paris, but if you have info about the rest of France and Europe, please share that as well, since I'll want to do at least some traveling while I have the chance. jOERG in a recent message comments that the USA FR could work on the 900 MHz see: http://n2.nabble.com/US-triband-vs-EU-triband-tp3095084p3095084.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
Le 14414ième jour après Epoch, Warren Baird écrivait: I'm spending about 4 or 5 hours on an airplane tomorrow, and I was wondering if there was a way to make OM2009 safe for use on an airplane - similar to the 'airplane mode' that QTEI provides. I know that there's no UI for it - but is there something I can kill, or some dbus magic I can do to address this? Maybe removing the SIM card ? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
thats something i would have liked on my last trip. perhaps some sort of scripting voodoo could disable gps, wiki, gsm, and bluetooth in one shot rather then having to sift through the 4 different shr-settings options. heck even a car mode could be good too On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM, François TOURDE fr...@tourde.org wrote: Le 14414ième jour après Epoch, Warren Baird écrivait: I'm spending about 4 or 5 hours on an airplane tomorrow, and I was wondering if there was a way to make OM2009 safe for use on an airplane - similar to the 'airplane mode' that QTEI provides. I know that there's no UI for it - but is there something I can kill, or some dbus magic I can do to address this? Maybe removing the SIM card ? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OM on LWN
Hi, An article about OpenMoko and the FreeRunner was published in last weeks LWN and is now freely available to non-subscribers: http://lwn.net/Articles/336787/ Reading that article makes me think the author must be an incredibly intelligent and likeable chap ;) Jon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-testing] turning illume keyboard off causes illume to fail with ffalarms
nice interesting error creeping on me this morning, after installing literki i figured i would switch the keyboard to none in elementary. works great for the adding new contact, the one place where the default keyboard would auto show. i could now use literki without the interface changing. trouble is when i go to ffalarms led clock mode i get the white screen of death endlessly. and with no interface to close out ffalarms the only solution is a battery take out. anyone got some ideas for me to stop this from happening? - jeremy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
nytowl was kind enough to provide the way to turn off GSM to me on the #paroli irc chat: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetAntennaPower False I'm cleaning things up at work prior to a vacation, so I don't have time to add it to the wiki now - but if no one has done it in the next day or two, I'll add it there somewhere... Warren On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:48 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.comwrote: thats something i would have liked on my last trip. perhaps some sort of scripting voodoo could disable gps, wiki, gsm, and bluetooth in one shot rather then having to sift through the 4 different shr-settings options. heck even a car mode could be good too On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM, François TOURDE fr...@tourde.orgwrote: Le 14414ième jour après Epoch, Warren Baird écrivait: I'm spending about 4 or 5 hours on an airplane tomorrow, and I was wondering if there was a way to make OM2009 safe for use on an airplane - similar to the 'airplane mode' that QTEI provides. I know that there's no UI for it - but is there something I can kill, or some dbus magic I can do to address this? Maybe removing the SIM card ? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/19/2009 07:51 PM, Nicola Mfb wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Gerald Ageraldabli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: The community transition should be announced with an help call for every kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering servers, developing, general coordination, transition news and so on. Maybe we could start a TODO list somewhere on the Wiki? I'm sure lots of people could help, but they need a clue about what needs to be done. Exactly! About development I propose to expose peoples, projects and what is missing, an example: critical "new openmoko community" core development: *) FSO team is developing the middleware, they need c/vala experts, funding :) *) Mirko is working on Paroli, help is needed to create a a good wifi manager plugin *) Angus is working on om2009, openembedded experts are welcome *) Nelson, Luca, etc. is working on kernel, some guru needed or donate a debug board *) Thomas, Andreas etc. is working on xorg glamo, drm/dri experts are welcome *) xxx, yyy maintains the server infrastructure, gforge experts needed ... other community development: *) c_c is working on audio/video mediaplayer *) xxx is working on bluetooth manager *) yyy is adapting linphone UI for small devices *) zzz and www is testing qlwm for arm and writing qt applications to create a new and complete qt/x11 gui phone stack over fso, every qt developer is welcome *) xxx is working to support wpa2/enterprise in connman *) "" shr *) "" debian *) "" hackable:1 *) "" neovento *) "" gentoo *) "" qtmoko/qtimproved We need discussion boards too: *) how to use better the aux and power buttons *) killing freezed x11 fullscreen applications *) the wanted systray support *) windows manager status *) x11 server over qtimproved *) improving the user interaction with accelerometers *) long term architecture for om2010 ... The same for other tasks, there are few human resources, we need organization and coordination. I fully agree, this kind of information is very difficult to find. I think providing this information might increase confidence that the community is alive. Personally, I'm curious who are the people that are doing development, or whatever for the Openmoko project. I'm wondering whether people are employed by Openmoko, sponsored or hacking away in their free time. Updating this page is probably a good start: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who I encourage the developers/maintainers/contributors of the different distributions to elaborate a little bit about the latest developments in the community updates. It's quite difficult to get an idea of the maturity/liveliness of the different distributions. Thanks to all who is contributing to the Openmoko community! Jan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAko7/msACgkQvuFuLCp9giA8GgCg68eQzehhWh1qOJZAeoFiR8Tm 0wgAoMzgBHjS2PvPFzZezKYtneQkmrT9 =uq+e -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
But you're allowed to use GPS on airplanes, aren't you? So there needs to be an option to turn GPS on, if wanted. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070622093234AAVSmN3 http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?s=498a551e1c059901bfe0bb8a2c2da5ccshowtopic=187898 r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
you might be allowed to. but i have yet to actually get a gps lock after leaving the terminal. so whats the point? i tried on several occasions to get it to work. even with a lock in the terminal, after sitting in the plane waiting to taxi i loose the signal On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: But you're allowed to use GPS on airplanes, aren't you? So there needs to be an option to turn GPS on, if wanted. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070622093234AAVSmN3 http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?s=498a551e1c059901bfe0bb8a2c2da5ccshowtopic=187898 r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:26 PM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: you might be allowed to. but i have yet to actually get a gps lock after leaving the terminal. so whats the point? i tried on several occasions to get it to work. even with a lock in the terminal, after sitting in the plane waiting to taxi i loose the signal I tried to track a flight once, too. The problem is probably that airplanes are a faraday cage as they're usually made of some kind of metal. I didn't have a window seat to test if one has a signal there. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
window seat makes no difference : ) in fact for several minuets i was holding my freerunner against the window and got nothing... On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Jakob jackram...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:26 PM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: you might be allowed to. but i have yet to actually get a gps lock after leaving the terminal. so whats the point? i tried on several occasions to get it to work. even with a lock in the terminal, after sitting in the plane waiting to taxi i loose the signal I tried to track a flight once, too. The problem is probably that airplanes are a faraday cage as they're usually made of some kind of metal. I didn't have a window seat to test if one has a signal there. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2009 23:35:17 schrieb Jakob: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:26 PM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: you might be allowed to. but i have yet to actually get a gps lock after leaving the terminal. so whats the point? i tried on several occasions to get it to work. even with a lock in the terminal, after sitting in the plane waiting to taxi i loose the signal I tried to track a flight once, too. The problem is probably that airplanes are a faraday cage as they're usually made of some kind of metal. I didn't have a window seat to test if one has a signal there. My dad once had a gps track from someone that looked pretty nice, but I don't know details about how he did that... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
On Friday 19 June 2009 23:26:57 jeremy jozwik wrote: i tried on several occasions to get it to work. even with a lock in the terminal, after sitting in the plane waiting to taxi i loose the signal I tried once and got a fix :P IIRC it was with OM2008.12 in a B737 (Between Stockholm and Paris). With the neo stuck to the windows, it took 15 minutes to get a fix :) But since normal fix raise from more than 2 minutes in an ideal place to less than 30s inside my room, you could expect better result now. (last time I took a plane, my phone was in buzz fix so I didn't retry) -- Vincent MEURISSE ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Pianobar on FR
Hey, does anyone care to tackle packaging Pianobar ( http://uint16.ath.cx/html/00/17.html) for the FR? That would be awesome. Or perhaps make a Canola plugin for it or something. -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
window seat makes no difference : ) in fact for several minuets i was holding my freerunner against the window and got nothing... I used gps on my freerunner successfully on several flights :-). I just pushed FR against the window and got a fix within few minutes. Afterwards, everything worked nicely. I am using an old FSO milestone 5 build; to enable airplane mode there it is sufficient to close zhone ;-). Greets Richard On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Jakob jackram...@googlemail.com mailto:jackram...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:26 PM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com mailto:jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: you might be allowed to. but i have yet to actually get a gps lock after leaving the terminal. so whats the point? i tried on several occasions to get it to work. even with a lock in the terminal, after sitting in the plane waiting to taxi i loose the signal I tried to track a flight once, too. The problem is probably that airplanes are a faraday cage as they're usually made of some kind of metal. I didn't have a window seat to test if one has a signal there. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
you might be allowed to. but i have yet to actually get a gps lock after leaving the terminal. so whats the point? i tried on several occasions to get it to work. even with a lock in the terminal, after sitting in the plane waiting to taxi i loose the signal hi, i track flights on regular basis :) what you might find out is: - in terminals, the glass has metal coating so no fix - you can get a fix on a plane easily and track your flight even with fr in the pocket in the seat in front of you (just needs to stick out a bit). make sure you get a fix before departing (see bellow) - during the flight, the blinds get usually shut, but you can stuck your fr right behind it (with a bit of force :) - FSO has a bug in reporting the speed - you will notice in speed above 200km - check between shr settings and tango - FSO is quite unable to get a fix while in 1m altitude and (or) high speed. it sees the satelites, get's a fix and then for some reason something happens and no satelite is being seen anymore. this will repeat fo as long as you leave it. - shr settings would allow you to switch gsm off but unfortunately, although it's fso based, it is too much related to ophonekitd and therefore the whole work will have to be duplicated in distros not using ophonekit. so now the same settings are being worked on for om2009. what a shame... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki
2009/6/16 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm Hi, I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's working well for me so I'm announcing it. http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk I made some improvements that you suggested and fixed a few small bugs. The layouts are improved. The landscape layout is now almost fullscreen and has numbers and all terminal-frequent symbols on the front page. Typing in the terminal is now really easy and fast. Shift works per symbol now. Pressing shift twice turns on caps lock, so you can type more uppercase symbols. The next thing I plan to do (but not until 2 or 3 weeks from now) is to use normal fonts for display, so you can change the font and size to your liking and add national characters. Again, I'd like to hear more improvement ideas, as I'd like to make literki THE keyboard that everyone will use. If anyone is an expert on Xlib, I'd be grateful for any input on how to make it less sluggish when the transparency mask changes (shift, etc). And also from distribution maintainers on anything else I'd need to do to make it possible to integrate and add to the various distros. You can use the same url to download (same filename): http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk Or download from opkg.org. Have fun! Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki
some kind of visual feedback for when ctrl or alt is active for doing a ctrl+x in nano and such On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fmwrote: 2009/6/16 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm Hi, I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's working well for me so I'm announcing it. http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk I made some improvements that you suggested and fixed a few small bugs. The layouts are improved. The landscape layout is now almost fullscreen and has numbers and all terminal-frequent symbols on the front page. Typing in the terminal is now really easy and fast. Shift works per symbol now. Pressing shift twice turns on caps lock, so you can type more uppercase symbols. The next thing I plan to do (but not until 2 or 3 weeks from now) is to use normal fonts for display, so you can change the font and size to your liking and add national characters. Again, I'd like to hear more improvement ideas, as I'd like to make literki THE keyboard that everyone will use. If anyone is an expert on Xlib, I'd be grateful for any input on how to make it less sluggish when the transparency mask changes (shift, etc). And also from distribution maintainers on anything else I'd need to do to make it possible to integrate and add to the various distros. You can use the same url to download (same filename): http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk Or download from opkg.org. Have fun! Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever
Just a quick post to note that on 0.2-r2, recording from mic chops about half of my recording. If I record 10 seconds, about plays back, if I record 5, about 2.5 plays back. You get the point. :) Otherwise, I love this app! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-All---Dictator---the-most-undemocratic-recording-and-dictation-software-ever-tp2669029p3122632.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New case (was Re: Freerunner's Future)
to whomever does this, please put a small stylus into a recess in the new case :) On 06/18/09 20:18, Werner Almesberger wrote: [ Let's give threads that change direction a clearer name than just Freerunner's Future ] Fabian Sch?lzel wrote: I'm not an engineer, but a draftsman, so I could also help with the mechanical design and modeling of the case and other things related to the project. Great ! I think redoing the GTA02 case should be a project on its own, independent from gta02-core or such. [...] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Joerg Lippmannjl_li...@donalbain.de wrote: Then the Freerunner is not for you. It may sound harsh, but it's definitely *not* suitable for daily use. Period. Brolin, I must respectfully disagree with Joerg's advice to you. There are flaws, including the ones Joerg points out, but they do not necessarily make the Freeruner unsuitable as a daily phone. I think it depends on the person. I use mine daily as my only phone and it works well for me. From your description of yourself, I suspect you would be happy with a Freerunner as well, as long as you don't expect it to do everything you want out of the box. Battery life? Yes, Joerg is correct that it's mediocre. I do charge it every night, but that's not a big deal, especially since it charges off of any USB port. The sound quality is terrible according to Joerg, but that has not been my experience. Perhaps I'm just lucky, having bought a later model unit, but people have actually been telling me how crystal clear I sound compared to my old Samsung phone. The one thing I don't like about the sound on the Freerunner is that the default volume is too low, but it's not been enough of a problem for me to even look into how to increase it. Joerg also mentioned that the device is lame. I'm not quite sure what he means. The Freerunner is certainly lacking features that some proprietary phones boast, such as a multitouch interface and 3G/4G data transfer. Since I live in a big city and have WiFi nearly everywhere I go, the lack of 3G is not a disadvantage for me. And multitouch? Well, somehow I survive without. The one thing that jumps out at me in your request, Brolin, is keeping your SMS messages on the microSD card instead of the SIM. I know that the SHR distribution, which I'm using, stores everything on the SIM by default. Perhaps David Ford's improved SMS app will do what you want? Alternatively, if you are happy with simply archiving your SMS to a text file, David Ford sent out a one line script to do so about a month ago. (I can dig it up if you need.) --Ben 2009/6/17 David Murrell dmurr...@waikato.ac.nz Fundamentally, at this point, my Openmoko Freerunner fails the Not Interested in Technology - Significant Other Acceptance Procedure, otherwise known NIT-SOAP. That is not a problem for me because I am single. :) P.S. You may not be single for long. One little known feature of the Freerunner is that it is an Ultra-Powerful Magnet for Attractive People. They will sidle up to you and exclaim, OMG! Is that a Debian box in your pocket?! ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
Hi, On Saturday June 20 2009 00:35:24 Petr Vanek wrote: - in terminals, the glass has metal coating so no fix And I wasted an one hour transit delay by sitting next to the window waiting for a fix..., - during the flight, the blinds get usually shut, but you can stuck your fr right behind it (with a bit of force :) Worked for me (http://www.klomp.eu/gps.jpg) :-) - FSO has a bug in reporting the speed - you will notice in speed above 200km - check between shr settings and tango I didn't checked this. - FSO is quite unable to get a fix while in 1m altitude and (or) high speed. it sees the satelites, get's a fix and then for some reason something happens and no satelite is being seen anymore. this will repeat fo as long as you leave it. I tried with the latest SHR unstable (about 5 weeks ago) and didn't had this problem. Maybe it is fixed? Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?
best. email. yet. you should link that sms script. perhaps it can be modified to siphon off the contacts too On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.netwrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Joerg Lippmannjl_li...@donalbain.de wrote: Then the Freerunner is not for you. It may sound harsh, but it's definitely *not* suitable for daily use. Period. Brolin, I must respectfully disagree with Joerg's advice to you. There are flaws, including the ones Joerg points out, but they do not necessarily make the Freeruner unsuitable as a daily phone. I think it depends on the person. I use mine daily as my only phone and it works well for me. From your description of yourself, I suspect you would be happy with a Freerunner as well, as long as you don't expect it to do everything you want out of the box. Battery life? Yes, Joerg is correct that it's mediocre. I do charge it every night, but that's not a big deal, especially since it charges off of any USB port. The sound quality is terrible according to Joerg, but that has not been my experience. Perhaps I'm just lucky, having bought a later model unit, but people have actually been telling me how crystal clear I sound compared to my old Samsung phone. The one thing I don't like about the sound on the Freerunner is that the default volume is too low, but it's not been enough of a problem for me to even look into how to increase it. Joerg also mentioned that the device is lame. I'm not quite sure what he means. The Freerunner is certainly lacking features that some proprietary phones boast, such as a multitouch interface and 3G/4G data transfer. Since I live in a big city and have WiFi nearly everywhere I go, the lack of 3G is not a disadvantage for me. And multitouch? Well, somehow I survive without. The one thing that jumps out at me in your request, Brolin, is keeping your SMS messages on the microSD card instead of the SIM. I know that the SHR distribution, which I'm using, stores everything on the SIM by default. Perhaps David Ford's improved SMS app will do what you want? Alternatively, if you are happy with simply archiving your SMS to a text file, David Ford sent out a one line script to do so about a month ago. (I can dig it up if you need.) --Ben 2009/6/17 David Murrell dmurr...@waikato.ac.nz Fundamentally, at this point, my Openmoko Freerunner fails the Not Interested in Technology - Significant Other Acceptance Procedure, otherwise known NIT-SOAP. That is not a problem for me because I am single. :) P.S. You may not be single for long. One little known feature of the Freerunner is that it is an Ultra-Powerful Magnet for Attractive People. They will sidle up to you and exclaim, OMG! Is that a Debian box in your pocket?! ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?
2009/6/19 Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net The one thing that jumps out at me in your request, Brolin, is keeping your SMS messages on the microSD card instead of the SIM. I know that the SHR distribution, which I'm using, stores everything on the SIM by default. Perhaps David Ford's improved SMS app will do what you want? Alternatively, if you are happy with simply archiving your SMS to a text file, David Ford sent out a one line script to do so about a month ago. (I can dig it up if you need.) I thought the SMS messages were stored on the phone instead of the SIM. My dad gave me the Nokia 6103b I am currently using after he upgraded to a newer Samsung phone. The Nokia 6103b still contained my dad’s SMS messages even though I was using the phone with my SIM. Maybe some phones store the SMS messages on the phone while others store them on the SIM? 2009/6/17 David Murrell dmurr...@waikato.ac.nz Fundamentally, at this point, my Openmoko Freerunner fails the Not Interested in Technology - Significant Other Acceptance Procedure, otherwise known NIT-SOAP. That is not a problem for me because I am single. :) P.S. You may not be single for long. One little known feature of the Freerunner is that it is an Ultra-Powerful Magnet for Attractive People. They will sidle up to you and exclaim, OMG! Is that a Debian box in your pocket?! ;-) “Is that some fscking hardware in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?!” “Can you (touch|finger|mount|grep|unzip|fsck) me with that hardware in your pants?” :D I wish. :P [image: Close] Read moreOptions [image: Visit Answers.com] http://www.answers.com?initiator=FFANS ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
