Re: help me
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Re: your mail
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Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
Hey!! Is this kind of phrase i am not interested in c++. driving the linux phone development? I can never understand how is it possible to have such a huge gap on the scale between C programmers and C++ programmers? Why are C++ programmers dying out? Is it because some C programmers never managed to get the point with C++ and those who did, switched automatically to Java? I propose a C wrapper arround Qt, for the C programmers, and everybody will still benefit, beleive me. QT is a treasure, is a nice clean code! And it is fast! By the way... nvidia tegra, the new dancer on the stage says no linux on tegra http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2009/06/nvidia-says-no-to-linux-on-tegra-netbooks-chooses-wince.ars or http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=nvidia+tegra+linux mobiphil mobiphil.com On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote: On Monday 22 June 2009, mobi phil wrote: I think carrying Xwindows is the biggest mistake. I personally encourage QT or new start with gtk on top of www.directfb.org/, so that gtk based interfaces can be reused... By the way did anybody consider gtk with directfb as direction? Or I am wrong and the bottleneck is not really Xwindows? This has been discussed _many_ times before. Those with extensive experience in this area have said X is not the bottleneck. I've just dug out a few of Raster's comments: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-April/046056.html http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-November/035825.html http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-February/001924.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
Hi is it me or is xrandr or xglamo a bit confused ? I do export DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -q 480x64050.0* 640x48025.0 240x32050.0 320x24050.0 but it doesnt actually seem to support all that on my neo. xrandr -o left that works (and selects the second option) xrandr -s 320x240 gives a weird screen with two vertical pages on a horizontal screen, with a slight offset, mosaic. starting from scratch, the xrandr -s 320x240 turns the screen all white/yellowish and unreadable. after switching a few times, x crashes. restarting xserver-nodm twice repairs it. what am i doing wrong ? curious, *-pike PS - I installed opendoom - it has the same problem, its trying to rotate the screen into 320x240, but the screen goes yellow most of the time.. which is why I was trying to look into this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:43 PM, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: PS - I installed opendoom - it has the same problem, its trying to rotate the screen into 320x240, but the screen goes yellow most of the time.. which is why I was trying to look into this. I noticed the same problem with duke3d, which is a shame, because showing off duke3d would make a lot of people very jealous :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: after switching a few times, x crashes. restarting xserver-nodm twice repairs it. what am i doing wrong ? You are not reading the bug reports :-) A simple search for glamo at e.g. http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py?q=glamo finds #2263 xf86-video-glamo/703acea13: xrandr --output LCD --mode 240x320 incorrect screen position Also, you did not very clearly specify if you are using Xglamo or Xorg with xserver-xorg-video-glamo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: after switching a few times, x crashes. restarting xserver-nodm twice repairs it. what am i doing wrong ? You are not reading the bug reports :-) A simple search for glamo at e.g. http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py?q=glamo finds #2263 xf86-video-glamo/703acea13: xrandr --output LCD --mode 240x320 incorrect screen position Also, you did not very clearly specify if you are using Xglamo or Xorg with xserver-xorg-video-glamo. Om2009 is specified in the subject, and AFAIK this is still using Xglamo, so this bug doesn't seem to be relevant. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: Om2009 is specified in the subject, and AFAIK this is still using Xglamo, so this bug doesn't seem to be relevant. The Xorg driver was created from the Xglamo source. Also, the bug is in kernel so it should apply to both. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
Hi what am i doing wrong ? You are not reading the bug reports :-) you're so right. did now, and its tracced here. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2162 fwiw, this bug is in om2009 testing release5, cleanly flashed. and with some fiddling like # export DISPLAY=:0 # xrandr -s 320x240 -o left # echo qvga-normal /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state # dm I did get it to work, temporarily. Also, you did not very clearly specify if you are using Xglamo or Xorg with xserver-xorg-video-glamo. because I wouldn't have a clue, sorry :-) thanks, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: font size in other window managers
2009/6/23 Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org Hi, I'm playing with other window managers in Om2009, like matchbox and icewm. All the apps that I run use insanely small fonts and buttons. Same as when you run them in pure X. Does anyone have an idea how to change this behaviour? Is it through some env variables? Try to start X with different -dpi values. I use -dpi 145 and it's a good compromise. I find that the problem persists in Paroli. The menu fonts are normal, but when typing an sms the font is really small. Where does Paroli take the font sizes from? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
Michal Brzozowski wrote: Now I have Serenity again, the illume keyboard is turned off again (yay), the battery app shows the state wrong (!) Ive not tried with paroli, but when I compile e17 from svn and I upgrade the version I've in my Om2008 partition I've to go in Illume-settings - Advanced - Battery Meter - Advanced - Hardware - Internal. Then it counts correctly. I don't understand anything from this, why is Paroli duplicating the options from illume-settings? Well, imho having everything in a settings manager could be useful. And a more general question, is Paroli trying to be more than a phone app? Is it going to replace illume? According to the FAQ it isn't. By the way in my opinion Paroli should allow to be run in two ways: using its own launcher as an all-in-one/fullscreen application, and using illume as launcher; In fact the paroli apps can be also launched using a simple dbus call, but actually they seem to work only if the launcher is still opened (while launching them with the main Launcher in background causes Paroli to crash). However it would be important to keep the dialer/log/contacts/messages and other main paroli applications always in background to make them popping-up quckly. I think that this would be the best way to use the nice paroli telephony related applications with an illume-based distro. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: font size in other window managers
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fmwrote: I find that the problem persists in Paroli. The menu fonts are normal, but when typing an sms the font is really small. Where does Paroli take the font sizes from? It is created as a gui.elementary.Entry, in msgs2.py line 275: textbox = gui.elementary.Entry(parent.window.elm_obj) See the file: http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=blob;f=paroli-applications/msgs2/msgs2.py;h=0676372f2aed28767c2dacde068429c74060234a;hb=HEAD Some more complicated things are created from python, but normally everything is created from .edc files. So you need to digg a bit into elementary to see how it calculates the default font size. Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: Michal Brzozowski wrote: Now I have Serenity again, the illume keyboard is turned off again (yay), the battery app shows the state wrong (!) Ive not tried with paroli, but when I compile e17 from svn and I upgrade the version I've in my Om2008 partition I've to go in Illume-settings - Advanced - Battery Meter - Advanced - Hardware - Internal. Then it counts correctly. Yepp it works. Thanks. I don't understand anything from this, why is Paroli duplicating the options from illume-settings? Because when you use your phone do you care which engine it renders? For a simple (smart)phone you only want to set the basic (everyday) things. Thats why it is a dedicated settings app inside paroli. Keep it simple and stupid;) Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without very very careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices. granted, having 128M to work in is indeed far more tenable than smaller devices but it's still onerous. C is much more lightweight and very functional. any benefits of c++ usually don't overcome the drawbacks for embedded devices. -d On 06/24/09 07:09, mobi phil wrote: Hey!! Is this kind of phrase i am not interested in c++. driving the linux phone development? I can never understand how is it possible to have such a huge gap on the scale between C programmers and C++ programmers? Why are C++ programmers dying out? Is it because some C programmers never managed to get the point with C++ and those who did, switched automatically to Java? I propose a C wrapper arround Qt, for the C programmers, and everybody will still benefit, beleive me. QT is a treasure, is a nice clean code! And it is fast! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
2009/6/24 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without very very careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices. granted, having 128M to work in is indeed far more tenable than smaller devices but it's still onerous. C is much more lightweight and very functional. any benefits of c++ usually don't overcome the drawbacks for embedded devices. What drawbacks do you mean? That is uses more memory? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
that is one typical aspect. Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/6/24 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org mailto:da...@blue-labs.org do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without very very careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices. granted, having 128M to work in is indeed far more tenable than smaller devices but it's still onerous. C is much more lightweight and very functional. any benefits of c++ usually don't overcome the drawbacks for embedded devices. What drawbacks do you mean? That is uses more memory? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: linphone 3.1.0
Al Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Paul Fertser wrote: Problems: * I haven't got it to do sound yet - it seems unhappy with the alsa device capabilities. I don't know if this is a configuration issue or a fundamental problem. I guess you face the same issue with borked /etc/asound.conf as others. It has dmix as the default device, and dmix obviously doesn't support recording. Probably you can remove /etc/asound.conf altogether or try to mimic configuration of any desktop distro. Or just configure linphone to use hw:0,0 by default. Also, don't forget that a special voip.state should be loaded before trying to input/output sound. It uses DAI mode 10 and arecord -D hw:0,0 | aplay -D hw:0,0 is known to work. I suspected as much, but couldn't confirm at the time. I had only given it a cursory check with the config that used to work for me with v1.6 and 2007.2. Now I can confirm it works using Brian Code's asound.conf and the voip- handset.state that comes with milestone5. Brian's config is available at: http://www.koolu.org/asound.conf Thanks for the precious hints guys. I am running shr unstable and linphone 3 there eats up to 80% of cpu time and so makes a conversation impossible. Did u do the same experience there? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/linphone-3.1.0-tp2529764p3151058.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
strange df behaviour
Hello list, found strange df behaviour. I'm using my micro sd which came with FR only for openstreetmaps. As a result it is filled with great amount of them. The filesystem on it is ext3. The df program from virtualbox reports it is filled 84%. But one cannot write there, because no space is available. Outputs: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/root 252544142744109800 57% / none 6042856 60372 0% /dev shmfs60428 0 60428 0% /dev/shm /dev/mmcblk0p1 479836382001 73061 84% /media/card volatile 60428 1572 58856 3% /var/volatile r...@om-gta02 ~ $ echo tetetette /media/card/te -sh: can't create /media/card/te: No space left on device signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange df behaviour
Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 22:01:39 schrieb ivvmm: Hello list, found strange df behaviour. I'm using my micro sd which came with FR only for openstreetmaps. As a result it is filled with great amount of them. The filesystem on it is ext3. The df program from virtualbox reports it is filled 84%. But one cannot write there, because no space is available. Outputs: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/root 252544142744109800 57% / none 6042856 60372 0% /dev shmfs60428 0 60428 0% /dev/shm /dev/mmcblk0p1 479836382001 73061 84% /media/card volatile 60428 1572 58856 3% /var/volatile r...@om-gta02 ~ $ echo tetetette /media/card/te -sh: can't create /media/card/te: No space left on device All the small files might have used up all the inodes (?) on the filesystem. I'm not into all that filesystem terms, but filesystems have a maximum count of files that can be stored. OSM tiles are very small files, but there are tons of them, so that might be the reason. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange df behaviour
The filesystem on it is ext3. The df program from virtualbox reports it is filled 84%. But one cannot write there, because no space is available. Outputs: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/root 252544142744109800 57% / none 6042856 60372 0% /dev shmfs60428 0 60428 0% /dev/shm /dev/mmcblk0p1 479836382001 73061 84% /media/card volatile 60428 1572 58856 3% /var/volatile r...@om-gta02 ~ $ echo tetetette /media/card/te -sh: can't create /media/card/te: No space left on device I think you run out of inodes because of maps data. Run df -i Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is 0.4A sufficient for charging?
Alexander Lehner wrote: BTW: Could you please send a link to the shop where you found this DC converter? Yes, I can. But here are two problems. First: they have not published it still on their website. Second: it is in Russian only. the link: http://velobig.ru signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange df behaviour
Sven Klomp wrote: I think you run out of inodes because of maps data. Run df -i Virtualbox does not know about such flags. When will we have the ability to switch to GNU coreutils?.. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
Hi, I'm using SHR-Unstable as my daily phone, it works but there are some things that bug me, mostly I can live with or work around them. It occurs to me other people might have better work arounds so I thought I'd post my current list and see what happens: Wifi = It seems reliable with the WPA2 networks I use it with but I can't seem to turn it off in SHR-settings and once I've connected to a network I can't reconnect to any network without rebooting. (I know there's work going on in the kernel relating to this). Workaround: After I've finished using wifi, I always reboot the phone so that next time I want to connect, it works Midori === Aside from the superuser-warning banner (which will be gone in the next release), the keyboard shortcuts (e.g. F11 for full screen) aren't available in Literki. There's a config file for accelerator keys (~/.config/midori/accels) but it seems to get overwritten every time it loads Workaround: Live without those keys (Hmm... I ought to try write protecting the file) Dictator The version in the repositories seems to just record crackling if I try and record my voice - this used to work. Watching videos === I'd like to watch videos on my FR. I've encoded it using the command listed in the video playback section of: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Customize But with mplayer-video the sound and pictures become out of sync. I've not tested it with intone-video from opkg.org as there's a clash with the updated versions of the elementary libraries Ringtones = I've altered my default ringtones to 8bit mono so they are quicker to load and to stop. Vagalume in the repo/image == It crashes Workaround: Use the one from opkg.org Hum in landscape When the phone is in landscape mode (really useful when typing with Literki) there's a quiet but persistent hum. Notifier It pops up to tell me I have an unread message but the messages app has already popped up to tell me that. (There was a request for comments on the shr-devel mailing list but I wasn't comfortable commenting there as I'm not currently developing anything). Navit == In the repos it takes a lot of configuring to: * show an icon in Illume * Stop its dependencies blocking sound on resume * finding the libraries it needs * configuring the UI * making the speech happen far enough in advance for car use Workaround: I've foolishly lost my highly tweaked config, when I've finished reworking it, I'll post it somewhere Scummvm === The keyboard doesn't show up so you can't type a filename to save your game unless I'm missing something. (You need to turn off sound in Scummvm or it crashes before you can start to play). I guess you need a bluetooth keyboard Messaging/Contacts app Sometimes I can't seem to enter text into the textarea that has focus if I've recently changed focus. It sometimes stops me typing a number into a new contact Workaround: I add a contact by typing a number into the dialer and then saving it. I think that's all the ones I can think off for now. Jon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
I see none of my contacts... am I missing something obvious or is it a bug ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
Hmm, that is one very aspect of C++ I wasn't aware of. 2009/6/24 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org that is one typical aspect. Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/6/24 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org mailto:da...@blue-labs.org do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without very very careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices. granted, having 128M to work in is indeed far more tenable than smaller devices but it's still onerous. C is much more lightweight and very functional. any benefits of c++ usually don't overcome the drawbacks for embedded devices. What drawbacks do you mean? That is uses more memory? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange df behaviour
ivvmm schrieb: Hello list, found strange df behaviour. I'm using my micro sd which came with FR only for openstreetmaps. As a result it is filled with great amount of them. The filesystem on it is ext3. The df program from virtualbox reports it is filled 84%. But one cannot write there, because no space is available. Outputs: I ran into the same problem some time ago. I format relevant partitions specifying the block-size and inode-size. mkfs.ext3 -b 1024 -i 4096 /dev/mmcblk0p5 -L mmc5 This worked fine for me sofar :-) Marc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
memory?... this remembers me about women... you can give the same amount of money to a blond, black, brunette, blue eyes etc. women... all of them they will spend it the same nanosecond... give the same money to a good businessman He will use it carefully... the programming language does not make too much difference neither. Give the same memory to an unconscious programmer he will waste it the same, just in few lines of code whatever C or C++ or C-- his is programming. Only issue could be memory fragmentation, that with a little care could be avoided in C++ as well. Average C++ programmers have no idea how to save memory. But C++ at least helps you a bit more to think in patterns, to keep much more order with less effort. I think if one keeps for the backend all the legacy (not pejorative ) C code, but coding against a simple widgetset for the GUI in C++ is not a bad idea. Creating a C wrapper, was not really a joke, for only C programmers... I am not saying that C++ is better for the embedded devices, far from that. Just that Qt has a much better abstraction than other toolkits, and is easier to use than few other toolkits. And besides that produces much better user experience. And it is portable. Encourage programmers to create GUI with QT, in few days there will be somebody who will port that to windows CE as there is QT toolkit for CE as well. Then maybe wince programmers would also think about programming against some more generic toolkit etc. By the way... did anybody reverse engineer' a bit the iphone ?or Android?(not necessarily only the code, but gui patterns I think paying a little attention to their way of doing things maybe will inspire a bit. would not like to offend... just some random ideas... mobip...@mobiphil.com On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:08 PM, David Ford da...@blue-labs.org wrote: do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without very very careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices. granted, having 128M to work in is indeed far more tenable than smaller devices but it's still onerous. C is much more lightweight and very functional. any benefits of c++ usually don't overcome the drawbacks for embedded devices. -d On 06/24/09 07:09, mobi phil wrote: Hey!! Is this kind of phrase i am not interested in c++. driving the linux phone development? I can never understand how is it possible to have such a huge gap on the scale between C programmers and C++ programmers? Why are C++ programmers dying out? Is it because some C programmers never managed to get the point with C++ and those who did, switched automatically to Java? I propose a C wrapper arround Qt, for the C programmers, and everybody will still benefit, beleive me. QT is a treasure, is a nice clean code! And it is fast! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
2009/6/19 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm I had the phone go into unresumable suspend. I received a call while it was suspended, it woke up and I answered the call. I don't remember if I put it down or the other side. Then the phone went to suspend again, and there was another call coming, I heard it in my radios speakers, but the phone didn't wake up. I didn't wake up with the power button as well. I restarted it and tried to get the logs (/var/log/..), but it seems frameworkd only keeps a small portion of them, as the logs from before the restart got overwritten. I tried to reproduce the same scenario by myself, but without success. Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting them? Michal It happened again. The phone suspended while I was talking, and wouldn't wake up after the call ended. Does not waking up from suspend necessarily mean it's a kernel bug? It only happened just after a call. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
i think the landscape hum is on all releases. i know for a fact its in shr-testing On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jon Levellopenm...@coralbark.net wrote: Hi, I'm using SHR-Unstable as my daily phone, it works but there are some things that bug me, mostly I can live with or work around them. It occurs to me other people might have better work arounds so I thought I'd post my current list and see what happens: Wifi = It seems reliable with the WPA2 networks I use it with but I can't seem to turn it off in SHR-settings and once I've connected to a network I can't reconnect to any network without rebooting. (I know there's work going on in the kernel relating to this). Workaround: After I've finished using wifi, I always reboot the phone so that next time I want to connect, it works Midori === Aside from the superuser-warning banner (which will be gone in the next release), the keyboard shortcuts (e.g. F11 for full screen) aren't available in Literki. There's a config file for accelerator keys (~/.config/midori/accels) but it seems to get overwritten every time it loads Workaround: Live without those keys (Hmm... I ought to try write protecting the file) Dictator The version in the repositories seems to just record crackling if I try and record my voice - this used to work. Watching videos === I'd like to watch videos on my FR. I've encoded it using the command listed in the video playback section of: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Customize But with mplayer-video the sound and pictures become out of sync. I've not tested it with intone-video from opkg.org as there's a clash with the updated versions of the elementary libraries Ringtones = I've altered my default ringtones to 8bit mono so they are quicker to load and to stop. Vagalume in the repo/image == It crashes Workaround: Use the one from opkg.org Hum in landscape When the phone is in landscape mode (really useful when typing with Literki) there's a quiet but persistent hum. Notifier It pops up to tell me I have an unread message but the messages app has already popped up to tell me that. (There was a request for comments on the shr-devel mailing list but I wasn't comfortable commenting there as I'm not currently developing anything). Navit == In the repos it takes a lot of configuring to: * show an icon in Illume * Stop its dependencies blocking sound on resume * finding the libraries it needs * configuring the UI * making the speech happen far enough in advance for car use Workaround: I've foolishly lost my highly tweaked config, when I've finished reworking it, I'll post it somewhere Scummvm === The keyboard doesn't show up so you can't type a filename to save your game unless I'm missing something. (You need to turn off sound in Scummvm or it crashes before you can start to play). I guess you need a bluetooth keyboard Messaging/Contacts app Sometimes I can't seem to enter text into the textarea that has focus if I've recently changed focus. It sometimes stops me typing a number into a new contact Workaround: I add a contact by typing a number into the dialer and then saving it. I think that's all the ones I can think off for now. Jon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is 0.4A sufficient for charging?
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, ivvmm wrote: Alexander Lehner wrote: BTW: Could you please send a link to the shop where you found this DC converter? Yes, I can. But here are two problems. First: they have not published it still on their website. Second: it is in Russian only. the link: http://velobig.ru Ok - russian is not my strength ;) I know a similair project in Germany, short overview here: http://www.heise.de/kiosk/archiv/ct/2007/23/190_kiosk Its battery buffered and exactly meant for PDA's and handys. The article includes Printed Circuit Board mask and Bill of Material - for hobby electricians! I did not make it this way, but my hand crafted toy also always dies due to high current ; but as benefit I have a volt and an ampeermeter included. For those who are interested I think I can send a private copy but I'm not allowed to post the PDF file public. Alex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: your mail
A forum is probably better place than email lists if the email lists tend to cover huge amount of information. Having a forum, you can keep o bit more order in the knowledge base that is accumulating in the email list. Tags/labels would be probably even more powerful than the simple categories in a forum. They would make easier to search in the huge amount of discussions/shared information on the email list. By encouraging everybody to use in the Subject field, or inside the conversation tags/labels, it would be much easier to find information, even with search engines. I would suggest to extend the [topic] labels to sthg. like Subject: [kernel][usb][external gps] etc. or separated by , Subject [kernel, usb, external gps] On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.com wrote: I think that you could also use nabble to have a bit of forum experience if you like. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: your mail
Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 22:45:54 schrieb mobi phil: A forum is probably better place than email lists if the email lists tend to cover huge amount of information. Having a forum, you can keep o bit more order in the knowledge base that is accumulating in the email list. Tags/labels would be probably even more powerful than the simple categories in a forum. They would make easier to search in the huge amount of discussions/shared information on the email list. By encouraging everybody to use in the Subject field, or inside the conversation tags/labels, it would be much easier to find information, even with search engines. I would suggest to extend the [topic] labels to sthg. like Subject: [kernel][usb][external gps] etc. or separated by , Subject [kernel, usb, external gps] For such, we would need a list of predefined tags. If everyone chooses his/her (do we actually have women [I know about Brenda :)] here?) own tags and occasionally has a typo in them, we will get perfect chaos. Now try to force people to look up a list of tags for possibly fitting ones. I think this whole tagging approach is nice from a technical/programmer's point of view, but as a user, I do not even want to think about having to tag each and every of my 2000 digital photos, not even talking about other files. [I'm sliding off topic, don't I? :)] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
Wifi = It seems reliable with the WPA2 networks I use it with but I can't seem to turn it off in SHR-settings and once I've connected to a network I can't reconnect to any network without rebooting. (I know there's work going on in the kernel relating to this). Workaround: After I've finished using wifi, I always reboot the phone so that next time I want to connect, it works all or any of ifdown devicename modprobe -r ar6000 killall wpa_supplicant mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.ReleaseResource 'WiFi' is not sufficient? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to fix a broken AUX button ?
2009/6/7 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de: Hey, On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:42:07 +0200 Philippe Lhardy philippelha...@chez.com wrote: 2009/5/26 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com: Hi Philippe, Sorry I can't help you with your problem, but I was just replying to say that I dropped mine the other day and the AUX button stopped working... Keep us informed of any developments with yours. I got my openmoko back debuzzed and with a new AUX button working ! Daniel Willmann fixed both quickly. Most of wating time was shipment travel france-germany back and forth. He replaced it with one that he got on another spare phone, seems it was not an easy task. Now we know that this is doable :-) Thanks ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
2009/6/24 Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net Midori === Aside from the superuser-warning banner (which will be gone in the next release), the keyboard shortcuts (e.g. F11 for full screen) aren't available in Literki. There's a config file for accelerator keys (~/.config/midori/accels) but it seems to get overwritten every time it loads Workaround: Live without those keys (Hmm... I ought to try write protecting the file) To avoid the superuser-warning banner... run it as normal user :-) - Use useradd - in the desktop file write: (su username; midori) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
Wifi = It seems reliable with the WPA2 networks I use it with but I can't seem to turn it off in SHR-settings and once I've connected to a network I can't reconnect to any network without rebooting. (I know there's work going on in the kernel relating to this). Workaround: After I've finished using wifi, I always reboot the phone so that next time I want to connect, it works What software are you using for WiFi connections? I use SHR-U and I'm looking for a good program to manage this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange df behaviour
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Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net writes: Hum in landscape When the phone is in landscape mode (really useful when typing with Literki) there's a quiet but persistent hum. This started to happen for me too. I thought that's some hardware parameter had slightly changed but probably it's some kernel changed that's provoking it. I think i need to try an older kernel and if it works, git-bisecting would be trivial... -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 06:21:49 pm Paul Fertser wrote: Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net writes: Hum in landscape When the phone is in landscape mode (really useful when typing with Literki) there's a quiet but persistent hum. This started to happen for me too. I thought that's some hardware parameter had slightly changed but probably it's some kernel changed that's provoking it. I think i need to try an older kernel and if it works, git-bisecting would be trivial... Sorry for the OT here but I haven't figured out how to get the phone to work in landscape, is there a program that needs installed or something that needs enabled? -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
pygtk-rotate, rotate, accel-rotate, NewRotate, TurnScreen, simple-rotate... check http://projects.openmoko.org/search/?type_of_search=softwords=rotateSearch=Search On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Adam Jimersonvend...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2009 06:21:49 pm Paul Fertser wrote: Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net writes: Hum in landscape When the phone is in landscape mode (really useful when typing with Literki) there's a quiet but persistent hum. This started to happen for me too. I thought that's some hardware parameter had slightly changed but probably it's some kernel changed that's provoking it. I think i need to try an older kernel and if it works, git-bisecting would be trivial... Sorry for the OT here but I haven't figured out how to get the phone to work in landscape, is there a program that needs installed or something that needs enabled? -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
tango and the missing map tiles
Hi all,
I've found that if tango doesn't have a working net connection available
when you pan around it will generate empty files for the map images and
then never attempt to re-download them leaving nasty gaps in your coverage.
Here's a quick n dirty script that removes all the empty files so that
tango will fetch them next time.
r...@om-gta02:~# cat cleanmapcache.sh
#!/bin/sh -v
find Maps/OSM/ -size 0 -type f
find Maps/OSM/ -size 0 -type f -exec rm {} \;
The first line displays the empty tile list, the second deletes them.
Feel free to stick this on the wiki or something. I don't know if this
needs a bug report.
Om2009
Tim Abell
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Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
It's not about the programmer managing memory, the C++ compiler produces a MUCH larger memory footprint. I like C++ programming, and I used C for years before that. My first exposure to C++ was when I simply compiled one of my C programs with the C++ switch. An executable file that was about 2k compiled as C became about 140k compiled as C++ ... I didn't modify the code at all. The thing that I think is a complete absurdity is the fact that so much of the software for the FR is written in an interpreted language (Python). This alone contributes to the slowness of the device. Heck, the frameworkd is a python program. (top shows python /usr/bin/frameworkd). The core systems need to be compiled. With a past employer, I did most of my development in perl, and I ran into a bottleneck in the interpreter for startup time. I copied the program in C++ and did a load comparison of the two. It was easy to bring the system to its knees with the interpreted language, but I couldn't even get the cpu load to bump more than a tiny bit using the compiled C++. (I write perl using the same structure as my C++, so it's very easy for me to port between the two) This is nothing against python in general, I don't think any interpreted language belongs in a phone except provide the interpreter for the individual owner to write their own code... but interpreted code should not make up the core of the system. Interpreted languages are excellent for rapid prototyping and initial development, but once it's ready for any type of release, it should be ported to C (in this case) or C++. I do use my Freerunner (rev6 that nobody has told me about a buzz... and I've asked them) on a daily basis. I choose not to let my phone go on standby, because I had heard about some of the problems with my current release, but I'm willing to charge it frequently since I am choosing to not let it standby. At some point, I'd like to get into the SMS code and make it do a few things: - Show the contact rather than the phone number - Show the actual time the message was received. (currently all messages are 1-1-1970) - Link the SMS message to a voicemail icon (my provider sends a message from -@ when I have voicemail and ascii triangle@ when all voicemail has been heard). But that's when I have the time. :) -Laura mobi phil wrote: memory?... this remembers me about women... you can give the same amount of money to a blond, black, brunette, blue eyes etc. women... all of them they will spend it the same nanosecond... give the same money to a good businessman He will use it carefully... the programming language does not make too much difference neither. Give the same memory to an unconscious programmer he will waste it the same, just in few lines of code whatever C or C++ or C-- his is programming. Only issue could be memory fragmentation, that with a little care could be avoided in C++ as well. Average C++ programmers have no idea how to save memory. But C++ at least helps you a bit more to think in patterns, to keep much more order with less effort. I think if one keeps for the backend all the legacy (not pejorative ) C code, but coding against a simple widgetset for the GUI in C++ is not a bad idea. Creating a C wrapper, was not really a joke, for only C programmers... I am not saying that C++ is better for the embedded devices, far from that. Just that Qt has a much better abstraction than other toolkits, and is easier to use than few other toolkits. And besides that produces much better user experience. And it is portable. Encourage programmers to create GUI with QT, in few days there will be somebody who will port that to windows CE as there is QT toolkit for CE as well. Then maybe wince programmers would also think about programming against some more generic toolkit etc. By the way... did anybody reverse engineer' a bit the iphone ?or Android?(not necessarily only the code, but gui patterns I think paying a little attention to their way of doing things maybe will inspire a bit. would not like to offend... just some random ideas... mobip...@mobiphil.com mailto:mobip...@mobiphil.com On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:08 PM, David Ford da...@blue-labs.org mailto:da...@blue-labs.org wrote: do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without very very careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices. granted, having 128M to work in is indeed far more tenable than smaller devices but it's still onerous. C is much more lightweight and very functional. any benefits of c++ usually don't overcome the drawbacks for embedded devices. -d On 06/24/09 07:09, mobi phil wrote: Hey!! Is this kind of phrase i am not interested in c++. driving the linux phone development? I can never understand how is it possible to have such a huge gap on the scale between C
Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:12:35 pm jeremy jozwik wrote: pygtk-rotate, rotate, accel-rotate, NewRotate, TurnScreen, simple-rotate... check http://projects.openmoko.org/search/?type_of_search=softwords=rotateSearc h=Search Thanks for the reply, accel-rotate sounds great would love for it to work as a daemon but after install turning my phone does not change the mode of the screen. According to the phone the accel-rotate daemon is running but when I run accel-rotate I get a Segmentation fault. I am running 06/17 release of SHR-Unstable -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
wouldnt know, i only use pygtk-rotate. i like telling it when i want it to rotate : ) On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Adam Jimersonvend...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:12:35 pm jeremy jozwik wrote: pygtk-rotate, rotate, accel-rotate, NewRotate, TurnScreen, simple-rotate... check http://projects.openmoko.org/search/?type_of_search=softwords=rotateSearc h=Search Thanks for the reply, accel-rotate sounds great would love for it to work as a daemon but after install turning my phone does not change the mode of the screen. According to the phone the accel-rotate daemon is running but when I run accel-rotate I get a Segmentation fault. I am running 06/17 release of SHR-Unstable -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tango and the missing map tiles
2009/6/25 Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk:
I've found that if tango doesn't have a working net connection available
when you pan around it will generate empty files for the map images and
then never attempt to re-download them leaving nasty gaps in your coverage.
Here's a quick n dirty script that removes all the empty files so that
tango will fetch them next time.
r...@om-gta02:~# cat cleanmapcache.sh
#!/bin/sh -v
find Maps/OSM/ -size 0 -type f
find Maps/OSM/ -size 0 -type f -exec rm {} \;
The first line displays the empty tile list, the second deletes them.
Feel free to stick this on the wiki or something. I don't know if this
needs a bug report.
will yaouh perform a similar task? i assume even though they are
blank, they will have a date and time, thus when yaouh is run, it will
see they are old/the hash is wrong, and replace them?
i might be wrong of course
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Re: tango and the missing map tiles
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:42 +0100
Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk wrote:
Hi all,
I've found that if tango doesn't have a working net connection
available when you pan around it will generate empty files for the
map images and then never attempt to re-download them leaving nasty
gaps in your coverage.
Here's a quick n dirty script that removes all the empty files so
that tango will fetch them next time.
r...@om-gta02:~# cat cleanmapcache.sh
#!/bin/sh -v
find Maps/OSM/ -size 0 -type f
find Maps/OSM/ -size 0 -type f -exec rm {} \;
The first line displays the empty tile list, the second deletes them.
How about this: (works if you have coreutils)
alias clean-map=find /path/Maps/OSM/ -size 0 -type f -exec rm -v {} \;
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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet
bump. any news on this? I'm having the same issue in Om2009 Paul Fertser wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: 2009/5/26 Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk: I found that as well. Is anyone able to comment on what HAL is being used for in SHR-Unstable? If it's simply been pulled in as a dependency (e.g. for X.org) and isn't actively being used (e.g. by X.org for input management), then it can be removed without breaking anything, which makes the problem go away. hal appears to be a dependency of xserver-kdrive-fbdev and xserver-security-policy; is it actually critical for these packages, or is thomas' assessment correct? i'm getting the same problem of reported charge This is a problem that needs to be fixed. For the time being it can be easily workarounded by using internal method for the battery applet, but a proper long-term solution is yet to be found. For that one needs to contact HAL guys and ask them about how exactly they recommend to use their battery-monitoring interfaces, both from upper level (how an application should deal with current situation where we have 1 apm emulation for the battery, one usb power supply (that according to the hal sources is also considered a battery) and one real battery) and a lower layer (that real battery monitoring doesn't work because E's battery gadget assumes the presence of some sysfs properties that our driver lacks, OTOH i couldn't find any document describing which sysfs nodes really must be present to be compliant and which are optional). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
Hi all, I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any applications, including xev. Does anyone know what I need to do to troubleshoot this? refs: my hcidump: http://pastebin.ca/1473582 (attached) my notes so far: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard#Om2009 vaguely related bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796 older attempts: http://timwise.wikispaces.com/freedom+universal+keyboard Thanks Tim Abell HCI sniffer - Bluetooth packet analyzer ver 1.42 device: hci0 snap_len: 1028 filter: 0x HCI Event: Connect Request (0x04) plen 10 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 class 0x002540 type ACL HCI Command: Accept Connection Request (0x01|0x0009) plen 7 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 role 0x01 Role: Slave HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4 Accept Connection Request (0x01|0x0009) status 0x00 ncmd 1 HCI Event: Connect Complete (0x03) plen 11 status 0x00 handle 42 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 type ACL encrypt 0x00 HCI Command: Read Remote Supported Features (0x01|0x001b) plen 2 handle 42 HCI Event: Page Scan Repetition Mode Change (0x20) plen 7 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 mode 1 HCI Event: Max Slots Change (0x1b) plen 3 handle 42 slots 5 HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4 Read Remote Supported Features (0x01|0x001b) status 0x00 ncmd 0 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Connect req: psm 17 scid 0x0040 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Connect rsp: dcid 0x0040 scid 0x0040 result 1 status 0 Connection pending - No futher information available ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 10 L2CAP(s): Info req: type 2 HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4 Unknown (0x00|0x) status 0x00 ncmd 1 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Info rsp: type 2 result 1 Not supported HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Connect rsp: dcid 0x0040 scid 0x0040 result 0 status 0 Connection successful HCI Event: Read Remote Supported Features (0x0b) plen 11 status 0x00 handle 42 Features: 0xff 0xff 0x05 0x38 0x18 0x18 0x00 0x00 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Config req: dcid 0x0040 flags 0x00 clen 4 MTU 48 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 18 L2CAP(s): Config rsp: scid 0x0040 flags 0x00 result 0 clen 4 MTU 48 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Config req: dcid 0x0040 flags 0x00 clen 0 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 14 L2CAP(s): Config rsp: scid 0x0040 flags 0x00 result 0 clen 0 Success HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Connect req: psm 19 scid 0x0041 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Connect rsp: dcid 0x0041 scid 0x0041 result 0 status 0 Connection successful HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Config req: dcid 0x0041 flags 0x00 clen 4 MTU 48 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 18 L2CAP(s): Config rsp: scid 0x0041 flags 0x00 result 0 clen 4 MTU 48 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Config req: dcid 0x0041 flags 0x00 clen 0 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 14 L2CAP(s): Config rsp: scid 0x0041 flags 0x00 result 0 clen 0 Success HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 14 L2CAP(d): cid 0x0041 len 10 [psm 19] HIDP: Data: Input report ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 14 L2CAP(d): cid 0x0041 len 10 [psm 19] HCI Command: Remote Name Request (0x01|0x0019) plen 10 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 mode 2 clkoffset 0x HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4 Remote Name Request (0x01|0x0019) status 0x00 ncmd 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Disconn req: dcid 0x0040 scid 0x0040 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Disconn req: dcid 0x0041 scid 0x0041 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Disconn rsp: dcid 0x0040 scid 0x0040 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Disconn rsp: dcid 0x0041 scid 0x0041 HCI Event: Remote Name Req Complete (0x07) plen 255 status 0x00 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 name 'FREEDOM KEYBOARD' HCI Command:
Re: Freerunner's Future - sony ericsson evilness
my favourite sony ericsson bug is the one where it waits till your memory stick (blergh) is almost totally full (with precious memories etc), and then wraps round and overwrites the FAT, followed by a this card is not formatted message. I'd link to the bug report but, erm, well, there is no bug tracker. I discovered it when trying to fill mine up with inconsequential mp3s, my non techie friend tripped over it when she had filled it up with photos. Thank f* for linux, dd and those clever recovery tools. Tim Abell Al Johnson wrote: On Saturday 06 June 2009, Ben Wong wrote: My biggest disappointment has been the fact that my Openmoko Freerunner (which I've had since helping form the Austin buying group) is still not _nearly_ as reliable as any cheap simple handset I can get for 10% of the cost. Not to disagree, I'd like to share that in the short time I've been using my Freerunner as my only phone it has been much, MUCH, more reliable than my previous smart phone. I was particularly amused to find a friend's Sony-Ericsson has the Buzz issue. Another bug is a tendency to switch network in the middle of a call when roaming, leaving both ends with a silent line. Then there was the long list of niggles and frustrations...at least we get to do something about (most of) our bugs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
Is the keyboard using encryption? On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Tim Abellt...@timwise.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any applications, including xev. Does anyone know what I need to do to troubleshoot this? refs: my hcidump: http://pastebin.ca/1473582 (attached) my notes so far: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard#Om2009 vaguely related bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796 older attempts: http://timwise.wikispaces.com/freedom+universal+keyboard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
How do I tell? It all worked fine on my ubuntu box last time I tried. Tim Abell Lon Lentz wrote: Is the keyboard using encryption? On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Tim Abellt...@timwise.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any applications, including xev. Does anyone know what I need to do to troubleshoot this? refs: my hcidump: http://pastebin.ca/1473582 (attached) my notes so far: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard#Om2009 vaguely related bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796 older attempts: http://timwise.wikispaces.com/freedom+universal+keyboard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
With Apple's keyboards, you have to add 'auth enable; encrypt
enable;' to device {} in hcid.conf. Thought maybe you could be having
the same problem.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Tim Abellt...@timwise.co.uk wrote:
How do I tell?
It all worked fine on my ubuntu box last time I tried.
Tim Abell
Lon Lentz wrote:
Is the keyboard using encryption?
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Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
Oh, ok.
I can't find the file you mention.
r...@om-gta02:/etc/bluetooth# ls
audio.confinput.confmain.conf network.conf rfcomm.conf
Ta.
Tim Abell
Lon Lentz wrote:
With Apple's keyboards, you have to add 'auth enable; encrypt
enable;' to device {} in hcid.conf. Thought maybe you could be having
the same problem.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Tim Abellt...@timwise.co.uk wrote:
How do I tell?
It all worked fine on my ubuntu box last time I tried.
Tim Abell
Lon Lentz wrote:
Is the keyboard using encryption?
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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet
Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk writes: bump. any news on this? I'm having the same issue in Om2009 I'm now convinced that this is a problem in both hal and E's battery gadget. If battery gadget didn't try to average percentages, it would ignore both usb and apm batteries and calculate the right value. So hal has oddities that can be considered bugs for sure but otoh in my opinion battery gadget needs fixing as well (and after fixing that hal's oddities would become irrelevant). -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
Lon Lentz lon.le...@gmail.com writes:
With Apple's keyboards, you have to add 'auth enable; encrypt
enable;' to device {} in hcid.conf. Thought maybe you could be having
the same problem.
Both SHR and OM2009 are using bluez4, so no hcid.conf there.
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Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone
-[ Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 05:32:42PM -0600, Laura Vance ] The thing that I think is a complete absurdity is the fact that so much of the software for the FR is written in an interpreted language (Python). This alone contributes to the slowness of the device. Not only to the slowness, but to the power inefficiency also : if a script is, say, 15 times slower than the equivalent C app, it will also draw 15 times more current from the CPU. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
