Re: List of bluetooth headsets
Hello to all again. Many thanks to all who aded/verified information on the list. As I see most recent info already here. Today I gonna remove headsets info from general bluetooth pages and link them to the list. Thanks again keep going. -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Evopedia version 0.2 prerelease
Christian Reitwießner wrote: Hi! After some serious changes in the dump format that will hopefully speed up the title search (aside from cleaning the dump a bit) and other changes in the software, evopedia version 0.2 is ready for testing. Evopedia is a Wikipedia reader for offline use. Features include: - live title search - search for geographically near articles - images are included when there is a connection to the internet how does it compare with aard dict viewer http://aarddict.org/ (not yet ported to openmoko as far as i know, but designed for nokia internet tablets). sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Home automation with Open moko
Well, that is the only advantage isn't it. Range. Anything else would be easier via Wifi as you do not need to connect anything extra to the Freerunner. If I really need that hot bath ready I can always use the system via GPRS link. Sorry dude. Seems like an interesting system you've got there but I doubt there's lot of a market behind it. Yogiz On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:25:46 +0530 sriranjan ran...@ideachi.com wrote: Patryk Benderz wrote: Will a dongle that attaches to FR and an embedded system that connects to home grid and then be able to control your home appliance from FR be a product worth a consumer market? Yes, but i would prefer to control such a grid by wifi or bluetooth, without wireing/connecting any dongle to FR. But bluetooth is of a limited range.Say you are in you car and coming home and you want to get your heater up and running so that you can have a hot bath.Now if you have an Xbee say 500 m or 1km you are from your home you can switch it on and by the time you get there it will be hot. Sriranjan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Intone 0.62 release
Hi, Here's the latest Intone release. * Fixed some regressions * remembers bt state on restart * cleans up song tags * fixes not playing through headphones after pause bug * fixes two done button in set music home directory page http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3376283/intone_0.62_arm.ipk intone_0.62_arm.ipk As always, feedback is welcome. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.62-release-tp3376283p3376283.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready
Nice discussion on the follow mails, but i've a doubt On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This is a text version of the wikipage [1], feel free to ask new questions there on the talk page. Discussion on this ML is also appreciated (and in fact i'm more comfortable with ML than the wiki). Openmoko devices Battery questions and answers NB: Some of the described behaviour depends on the kernel, the relevant code was pushed on 02 Aug to andy-tracking Hardware capabilities Q: What batteries can be used with gta01 and gta02? A: Original OM gta01, gta02, Nokia BL-5C, BL-6C and compatibles. Q: Do other BL-5/6C compatible batteries fit? A: If the battery is thicker than BL-6C, you won't be able to close the back cover. Q: What is the difference between all those types? A: Capacity: gta01, gta02- 1200 mAh BL-5C old (newer/new) - 850 (970/1050) mAh BL-6C - 1150 mAh Temperature control: gta01, BL-5C, BL-6C - thermistor gta02 - bq27000 Special features: gta02 - accurate and sophisticated reporting of capacity, time_to_full, time_to_empty, temperature and battery current during both charge and discharge thanks to bq27000 (aka Coloumb Counter) Q: What are hardware capabilities of gta01 and gta02 with regard to battery management? A: gta01: charging all battery types, measuring temperature with battery-integrated thermistor (currently charging and measuring temperature for non-gta01 batteries doesn't work due to the kernel driver issues but it's software limitation), measuring battery output voltage, very inaccurate and noisy measuring of battery current gta02: charging all battery types, measuring battery output voltage, communicating with bq27000 Q: Can nokia phones use/charge gta01/gta02 batteries? A: gta01 and gta02 batteries will fit wherever BL-6C fits but they can't be charged in nokia phones unless you isolate the middle pin from the battery and connect a resistor of ~50k (actual measured value on a cold (25C) battery is 75k, on a slightly warm battery - 82k) from it to the ground (to fake a thermistor presence). Q: Can third-party chargers charge gta01/gta02 batteries? A: The good ones will most probably require the same trick needed for nokia phones. More cheaper ones are more likely to ignore thermistor absence. Q: I have several compatible batteries. What are the storage requirements for them? A: Keep in a dry cool place charged to no more than 75%. Safety issues Q: Do OM devices control temperature to stop charging if the battery gets too hot? A: No (probably gta01 does, need to check). Q: Isn't it dangerous? A: No, since all batteries (not raw cells!) have an integrated protection circuits. Q: Can i use that fancy 2800 mAh BL-5C-compatible battery i saw on ebay? A: Unless you want an explosion in your pocket i wouldn't recommend using any battery that is not produced by a reputable vendor and widely tested. And even reputable vendors make mistakes, nokia once had to recall 46 million batteries manufactured by Matsushita ( http://batteryreplacement.nokia.com/batteryreplacement/en/advisory-2007.html ). Q: You say that BL-5C is compatible with my gta02. Does that mean i can use that BL-5C-compatible bat i bought for a buck from a bum? A: You bet, go ahead. Charging Q: My battery charges to 100% but then charging stops and the battery keeps discharging, wtf? A: LiIon batteries don't like to be kept fully charged, so the charger stops as soon as charging current becomes less than threshold. If you have GSM on it will discharge the battery. Q: But why doesn't it ever stop charging on my device? A: The GSM modem is connected directly to the battery terminals so if it's active, charger will think it's still charging the battery and won't turn off unless GSM becomes inactive. The default threshold is about 16mA, the latest Qi increases the threshold to ~32mA. Is this true for gta02 deevices only or it's the same for gta01? Q: Does it mean if i leave my phone plugged it will eventually fully discharge the battery? A: On gta02 the charger will restart the charge automatically once the battery voltage reaches ~4V which corresponds to ~76%. Not sure about gta01, requires more investigation. :-/ Q: Ok, how to make sure my battery is fully charged before a long trip? A: Replug the charger, it will trigger charging no matter what the current capacity is. Q: My power/aux LED indicates charging/discharging/whatever, what does that mean (aka why it's still blue even after i unplugged the charger)? A: Ask FSO guys about it, some of them think that the user shouldn't really know what's happening and therefore they do some special mangling of status sysfs node before presenting it to the user. If you want to make a decent bugreport please add clear steps to reproduce and
Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset
The Digital Pioneer wrote: Unfortunately, bluetooth calling support is preset but woefully inadequate. SHR will use it, but you have to restart some services (or reboot) to turn BT on or off. Other than that, it works. Look at the 'Manually Using Bluetooth' wiki page. In fact you can activate bluetooth either via the settings app, or via dbus : dbus-send --system --dest=org.freesmartphone.odeviced --type=method_call --print-reply /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/Bluetooth org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.SetPower int32:1 Then if you have paired your headset, you should only need to power it up. restarting the framework is needed only if you change the bt-headset-enabled setting (and don't forget to power up the antenna from the settings/phone app if you restart the service instead of rebooting). The Digital Pioneer wrote: And you've set the bt-headset-address and bt-headset-enabled variables, then rebooted the phone? It seems that if you have headset-enabled, you can't use your headset to play music via intone (i've been facing the issue this morning). Did i do something wrong? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Best-Distro-to-use-bluetooth-headset-tp3371068p3376474.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Hi, ran wrote: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Seems like your mplayer is missing libXv libraries. If you're not using SHR-U to get the respective libraries use these links :- 1. id3lib_3.8.3-r2_armv4t.ipk wget http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/id3lib_3.8.3-r2_armv4t.ipk 2. libmad0_0.15.1b-r4_armv4t.ipk wget http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/libmad0_0.15.1b-r4_armv4t.ipk 3. libsdl-1.2-0_1.2.11-r7_armv4t.ipk http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libsdl-1.2-0_1.2.11-r7_armv4t.ipk 4. libspeex1_1.1+1.2rc1-r0_armv4t.ipk wget http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libspeex1_1.1+1.2rc1-r0_armv4t.ipk 5. libsqlite3-0_3.6.5-r0_armv4t.ipk wget http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libsqlite3-0_3.6.5-r0_armv4t.ipk 6. libvorbis_1.0.1-r2_armv4t.ipk wget http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libvorbis_1.0.1-r2_armv4t.ipk 7. libxv1_1.0.3-r1_armv4t.ipk wget http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libxv1_1.0.3-r1_armv4t.ipk 8. mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk For SHR-U 1. For better performance especially for ogg/oga files use mplayer from http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk 2. You'll also need libspeex from http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libspeex1_1.1+1.2rc1-r0_armv4t.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.62-release-tp3376283p3376555.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Hi! Thanks for new version! Hm... i can see text (in main view) only in one button - Songs buttons 1,2 4 are empty, button 5 seems have black icons on dark bg SHR-U, remove ~/.intone no sense... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO-based] Control Bluetooth/wifi/others power (was: Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset)
KaZeR ka...@altern.org writes: The Digital Pioneer wrote: Unfortunately, bluetooth calling support is preset but woefully inadequate. SHR will use it, but you have to restart some services (or reboot) to turn BT on or off. Other than that, it works. Look at the 'Manually Using Bluetooth' wiki page. In fact you can activate bluetooth either via the settings app, or via dbus : dbus-send --system --dest=org.freesmartphone.odeviced --type=method_call --print-reply /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/Bluetooth org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.SetPower int32:1 This method is utterly wrong. Please see [1] for an explanation and proper method of powering devices in an FSO-based system. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Hi, Vadim, Efimov wrote: Hm... i can see text (in main view) only in one button - Songs buttons 1,2 4 are empty, button 5 seems have black icons on dark bg Sorry! Wrong my laptop didn't have the icons for intone - hence I built the ipk without the icons. Try this http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3376605/intone_0.62_arm.ipk intone_0.62_arm.ipk . Have corrected the main link too!! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.62-release-tp3376283p3376605.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:05:33 +0400, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Vadim, Efimov wrote: Hm... i can see text (in main view) only in one button - Songs buttons 1,2 4 are empty, button 5 seems have black icons on dark bg Sorry! Wrong my laptop didn't have the icons for intone - hence I built the ipk without the icons. Try this http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3376605/intone_0.62_arm.ipk intone_0.62_arm.ipk . Have corrected the main link too!! Thanks! work fine now! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Hi, ran wrote: intone: error while loading shared libraries: libelementary-ver-svn-02.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory What distribution are you running? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.62-release-tp3376283p3376871.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V5
Hi Radek, Anywhere you'd like me to report bugs? I tried this tonight, and discovered that importing my address book failed, with error that the contacts table was missing. I think that whatever builds: /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite is missing the contact table. I replaced it with my backup, and then the address book had my contacts after that. Regards Glen Ogilvie On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Radek Polak wrote: Hi, new version of QtMoko debian images is uploading now. It will be possible to download them soon (like in 2 hours) from: Radek signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Hi, ran wrote: Om2009 For Om 2009 - try this http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3377114/intone_0.62_arm.ipk.OM intone_0.62_arm.ipk.OM -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.62-release-tp3376283p3377114.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Guillaume Chereaucharlie...@gmail.com wrote: Beside, even though I stopped working on paroli long before Mirko, I still understand how the core works ; contact me by email (or on this list) if you have any question about it, I can have a -quick- look at it. Thank you very much for your offer, I will compile my list of questions, and shoot at you;) Besides, I would like to talk with you, how can we more collaborate... Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] Almost there....
Using SHR-unstable 20090721 as daily phone. I have used the Openmoko as a portable computer for the past 3/4 of a year, but not as a phone. Primarily because I need my phone to be stable. However for the past week (during my holidays) I have used the FreeRunner as my primary phone. So what do I basically need from my phone. What is the minimal feature set that will make the phone usable. 1. Voice phone (incoming and outgoing phone calls) 2. Receive and send SMS 3. Phonebook with names and numbers (I can't remember phone numbers) 4. Two days of battery life, i.e. Suspend Resume (both manually and automatically) 5. Plug in and remove power cable 6. Clock 7. Phone log (missed calls / SMS) That is all I really need. There are a lot of other nice to have features, but they are not important (at the moment). SHR unstable provides all these features and a lot of other features. However it is not stable. The following is a list of my observations from the first week of usage (no power attached in all scenarios below). 1. After I have made a phone call (incoming or outgoing) I need to look into if I believe the phone is still working. Ie. can I receive another call. I don't know exactly what happens, but quite often the phone is broken. Typical symptoms that something is wrong is that the phone will not auto suspend. Settings / Power / Auto suspend will not slide to On. When the phone enters this state it cannot receive any more phone calls / SMS. The solution to this is typically a power off/on. In this state it also does not do a proper logout / shutdown. But pressing the power button for some 8-10 seconds will shutdown. 2. No sound on phone calls. In some cases there is no sound on phone calls, i.e. no ring tone (but vibrator ok) and no audio on the voice call. Making outgoing calls and suspend/resume does not help. However on at least one occasion it did help to plug in USB power. 3. Manual resume to check the clock but not touching the touch screen. The phone will typically not auto suspend again, unless I touch the touch screen. 4. The ring tone audio on incoming call is delayed several seconds. I.e. the vibrator starts several seconds before the ring tone. Also the ring tone will only stop several seconds after pressing accept call. 5. Removing the power cable (usb) sometimes means that the phone does not auto suspend. 6. Receive a missed SMS while suspended often means the phone will not auto suspend again (however for missed phone calls it seems to be working ok). 7. Phone log will open in multiple instances. If I receive multiple missed calls, I will have several phonelogs open. If I look in the wrong one, it will only report one missed call. If one instance is open while receiving a new phone call it will not be updated. I will look into if any of these are already reported in SHR trac. Notice that this is a massive improvement over last time I tried (and failed) to use it as a phone 3-4 month ago. I have one week left of my holidays for testing. But as of yet I am undecided if I will continue when I get back to work Thanks for all your work! /Poul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Evopedia version 0.2 prerelease
Hi Sam! sam tygier schrieb: Christian Reitwießner wrote: Hi! After some serious changes in the dump format that will hopefully speed up the title search (aside from cleaning the dump a bit) and other changes in the software, evopedia version 0.2 is ready for testing. Evopedia is a Wikipedia reader for offline use. Features include: - live title search - search for geographically near articles - images are included when there is a connection to the internet how does it compare with aard dict viewer http://aarddict.org/ (not yet ported to openmoko as far as i know, but designed for nokia internet tablets). Sorry, but I haven't tried aard dict viewer yet. Evopedia is optimized for the Freerunner screen (at least it seems that aard dict viewer works better on wider displays), it uses the gps information in Wikipedia (and the gps receiver in the Freerunner) and it does not have it's own client software but can be used with any browser (and from any host). The downside is that there are not so many dumps available yet. I don't know if there are differences in speed or stability. Kind regards, Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] Not recieving all sms
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:30:05 am Radek Polak wrote: could you send the log? Can you also try to delete SMS on your sim? I dont have much experience with GSM but i could try to take a look at it. Btw i have just tried send SMS to my phone and it worked. I just sent myself a test SMS and had to reboot to be able to receive it. I have enabled AT command logging and I see this in the logs: Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : t : AT+CPBS=EN Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : EXT: I Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : ERROR Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : T : AT+CIND=? Aug 3 21:44:58 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : +CIND: (signal, (0-5)), (smsfull, (0-1)) Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : f : AT+CPBS=EN Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : f : OK Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : t : AT+CPBR=1,2 Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : OK Aug 3 21:45:00 neo Qtopia: Unable to complete service: NewSmsArrival - timeout Any use ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....
On 8/3/09, Poul Bondo p...@mailme.dk wrote: Using SHR-unstable 20090721 as daily phone. (...) 1. After I have made a phone call (incoming or outgoing) I need to look into if I believe the phone is still working. Ie. can I receive another call. I don't know exactly what happens, but quite often the phone is broken. Typical symptoms that something is wrong is that the phone will not auto suspend. Settings / Power / Auto suspend will not slide to On. When the phone enters this state it cannot receive any more phone calls / SMS. The solution to this is typically a power off/on. In this state it also does not do a proper logout / shutdown. But pressing the power button for some 8-10 seconds will shutdown. There is newer version of ophonekitd which fixed most of phone functionality crashes. 2. No sound on phone calls. In some cases there is no sound on phone calls, i.e. no ring tone (but vibrator ok) and no audio on the voice call. Making outgoing calls and suspend/resume does not help. However on at least one occasion it did help to plug in USB power. Do you have speech-dispatcher installed? If yes, then opkg remove -force-depends speech-dispatcher should help. 3. Manual resume to check the clock but not touching the touch screen. The phone will typically not auto suspend again, unless I touch the touch screen. 6. Receive a missed SMS while suspended often means the phone will not auto suspend again (however for missed phone calls it seems to be working ok). Hmm... I thought it's already fixed. I'll test it more carefully. 4. The ring tone audio on incoming call is delayed several seconds. I.e. the vibrator starts several seconds before the ring tone. Also the ring tone will only stop several seconds after pressing accept call. Yup... If you're using mp3, ogg or sid tone, then try to use wav. It should speed up it a little, but it still will be slow... We're waiting for fsodeviced, it should provide nice gain in speed. 5. Removing the power cable (usb) sometimes means that the phone does not auto suspend. Some debug info? 7. Phone log will open in multiple instances. If I receive multiple missed calls, I will have several phonelogs open. If I look in the wrong one, it will only report one missed call. If one instance is open while receiving a new phone call it will not be updated. a) Close notifier window instead of clicking on phonelog button. It won't open phonelog ;P b) This is kind of wontfix, as we're playing new UI infrastructure and we'll write new GUI libraries. Notifier will also change. Notice that this is a massive improvement over last time I tried (and failed) to use it as a phone 3-4 month ago. I'm using SHR for about half of year as my daily phone :) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Home automation with Open moko
On Friday 31 July 2009, sriranjan wrote: Patryk Benderz wrote: Will a dongle that attaches to FR and an embedded system that connects to home grid and then be able to control your home appliance from FR be a product worth a consumer market? Yes, but i would prefer to control such a grid by wifi or bluetooth, without wireing/connecting any dongle to FR. But bluetooth is of a limited range.Say you are in you car and coming home and you want to get your heater up and running so that you can have a hot bath.Now if you have an Xbee say 500 m or 1km you are from your home you can switch it on and by the time you get there it will be hot. Poor choice of example - if I had a heating system that needed such a trigger it would take longer to get up to temperature than the travel time from 1km away, even by foot. For long range control I would be looking at internet or phone based systems like asterisk or CSD dialin connection. There does seem to be a market for wireless touchscreen home remotes, many of them very expensive. I doubt this market would accept a dongle - it just wouldn't look cool enough. If you can build it into the FR, or recase it to enclose the dongle, you may be able to sell into that market. You probably won't find any overlap between that market and this list though - we're by definition internet-centric and likely to build our own solution. There may also be some resistance to ZigBee's GPL incompatibility and IP policies. http://freaklabs.org/index.php/Blog/Zigbee/Zigbee-Linux-and-the-GPL.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....
I've been using the unstable image from 20090721 as well, but I've noticed that opkg update opkg upgrade breaks a lot of functionality. The GSM doesn't turn on automatically after boot, and when I do turn it on from the Settings screen, I get asked for a pin, but the 'checking' screen never disappears, and the phone does not register. Is that a known problem? At the moment I just re-flash to that image, and avoid using opkg updateopkg upgrade, but I'd like to see newer implementations of (at least some of) the software... Christ van Willegen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset
I don't have that issue, but it may be an issue with your headset. Mine is designed to switch between modes automatically, yours may not. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps : updating tiles ?
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 06:06:55PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Go to their website - read their policy. tile.openstreetmap.org is not to be used for bulk downloads. URL? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tile_usage_policy I can understand this, they probably have a bandwith problem. Although you'd think that if they were trying to save bandwidth, they'd support the If-Modified-Since HTTP header which has had wide spread server and client support for what, more than ten years. Find another repository that don't have such limitations. Again, URL? That is exactly the problem! There are many online maps, but few tile servers around. tah.openstreetmap.org lets you download all you want, but it does not support md5sums so you cannot use yaouh. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V5
Tschaka wrote: * Wifi doesnt work. It just doesnt connect. It seems that in debian wpa_supplicant is in /sbin while the wireless script expects it in /usr/sbin. Could you try if ln -s /sbin/wpa_supplicant /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant helps? Thanks Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much for your offer, I will compile my list of questions, and shoot at you;) Besides, I would like to talk with you, how can we more collaborate... No problem. You can sometime find me on freenode IRC as charlie137 (usually online around 1pm to 4pm GTM). Cheers, -- Guillaume Chéreau blogs : http://charlie137.blogspot.com/, http://charlie137-2.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....
On 8/3/09, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using the unstable image from 20090721 as well, but I've noticed that opkg update opkg upgrade breaks a lot of functionality. After flashing this image you have to: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop /etc/init.d/frameworkd stop opkg update opkg install opkg libopkg0 opkg update opkg upgrade A bit complicated, but was on ml many times and it's due to broken opkg in this image. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
Michal Brzozowski wrote: Litephone beta1 is available here: http://pvtrace.com/litephone/litephone_0.0.1-r2_armv4t.ipk Beta impressions: * When the phone rings, please have litephone jump to the foreground. Currently, I have to wade through several other running apps in order to pick up the phone. Also, if some other program were in the foreground, remember that. Litephone should then reinstate the previous foreground app when the call ends. This is what you want if you use the phone as a gps map display, or play some game. You want to pick up the phone, but when you hang up, you want to continue with whatever you were doing. * Similiar for SMS. Bring litephone to the foreground, if necessary. If the user just close/delete the message, then reinstate the previous foreground app. (But if the user do anything else in litephone, assume he/she wants to keep litephone in the foreground from now on. We don't want to do all sorts of work and suddenly have litephone disappear upon deleting the particular message that trigged the jump to the foreground. :-) * Deleting a message (up-to-date SHR unstable) gives a screenful of error messages. But the message was deleted. * When I answer the phone, it rings and vibrates for a while after I pressed answer, before the call comes through. That is annoying. I don't know if this can be improved in litephone, or if the problem is in the framework or something. * The contact list has a second column, with 8 names. This allows quick jumping through the list to various positions. Excellent! * Strange SMS view. Before, I could see who sent the message, and the first part of the text. And often enough, the first part is all I need to see. Some messages are short, just call me and such. Now, I see who sent the message, and a strange number. (database key???) This number is not useful, please bring back the text snippet. * Really long messages support scrolling. This is better than SHR. :-) * When the user closes litephone, consider informing that no further calls or SMS will be received. This may not be obvious to all users, and phone functionality is an important part of the device. Still, if you make such a dialog, also add the don't show this warning again button for the expert users. I might add this to the wiki - when/if the email address confirmation comes through. :-/ Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Evopedia version 0.2 prerelease
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Christian Reitwießner christ...@reitwiessner.de wrote: Hi! After some serious changes in the dump format that will hopefully speed up the title search (aside from cleaning the dump a bit) and other changes in the software, evopedia version 0.2 is ready for testing. Evopedia is a Wikipedia reader for offline use. Features include: - live title search - search for geographically near articles - images are included when there is a connection to the internet midori is the default browser used for displaying the html pages, if you don't like it, change it in /usr/bin/evopedia_gui.sh. At the moment, there is only a dump of the German Wikipedia for evopedia 0.2 but others are being generated. Download links: software: http://www.reitwiessner.de/openmoko/evopedia_0.2_any.ipk German Wikipedia dump: http://vitels.cs.uni-tuebingen.de/dumps/de/wikipedia.squashfs Please help improving the software by testing it and ask for languages to create dumps for. Great! I really like this project. I'm interested in a Dutch version. And I'm sure everyone is interested in an English version. Which squashfs version do you guys use atm? y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:22 AM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Here's the latest Intone release. maybe i just need a restart but the first verison of .60 ran much smoother then this version seems to. dragging the volume slider causes the song playing to breakup and sound choppy. not a huge issue but in one version it was fixed. anyhow, great work on the buttons! now i can see what i am doing! thanks again c_C ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
2009/8/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no Michal Brzozowski wrote: Litephone beta1 is available here: http://pvtrace.com/litephone/litephone_0.0.1-r2_armv4t.ipk Beta impressions: * When the phone rings, please have litephone jump to the foreground. Currently, I have to wade through several other running apps in order to pick up the phone. I was wondering when someone brings this up :-). Actually I don't like the idea of poping up the phone window when the user is doing something. I have a plan to show a little xshape gadget on the bottom of the screen on incoming call or sms. On call it would probably show accept/reject/mute buttons, the first one additonally bringing up the phone window on click. On sms it would display the content in a one line pager style, and have show/hide message buttons. I wonder what you think about this idea :-) * Deleting a message (up-to-date SHR unstable) gives a screenful of error messages. But the message was deleted. Yes, although I think deleting did work for a while. Here's the error (for Sebastian :-)): http://pvtrace.com/litephone/delete_errors.txt The message was probably not deleted, you will notice on restarting litephone (it just deleted it from cache) * When I answer the phone, it rings and vibrates for a while after I pressed answer, before the call comes through. That is annoying. I don't know if this can be improved in litephone, or if the problem is in the framework or something. This is a frameworkd issue. I think with litephone it's a bit better than with SHR-apps, although I'm not sure. * The contact list has a second column, with 8 names. This allows quick jumping through the list to various positions. Excellent! * Strange SMS view. Before, I could see who sent the message, and the first part of the text. And often enough, the first part is all I need to see. Some messages are short, just call me and such. Now, I see who sent the message, and a strange number. (database key???) This number is not useful, please bring back the text snippet. This was left by accident after debugging, sorry :-) We are working on some better view in messages, phonelog and contacts * Really long messages support scrolling. This is better than SHR. :-) Oh, good to know :-) * When the user closes litephone, consider informing that no further calls or SMS will be received. This may not be obvious to all users, and phone functionality is an important part of the device. Still, if you make such a dialog, also add the don't show this warning again button for the expert users. I might add this to the wiki - when/if the email address confirmation comes through. :-/ Please do. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote: (I understand that Laszlo didn't get the support needed but got some of his code rejected - lost interest.. ) I would like to add my 2 cents here;) I didnt stopped working on paroli at all, just my attention was distracted by some hobby project (home-made electric bike) and I was on vacation in the last 2 weeks (hence the late reply). But I agree, what Mirko is doing, are the worst scenario of every possible act, ie. stating he is working on paroli, but his last real work on paroli was exactly two months ago on June 3, with commit 6b47ad3a17814105e7107dcf7cc30dc4f3584387. In addition to this he is not responding to emails, especially which contains programing questions regarding to paroli. (I know, because I shoot 10-15 emails already to him in these 2 months). I have read somewhere some years ago, how to best quit an open source project, but I cant locate it anymore (nor on the web nor in my computer). It addressed this very issue, how to avoid this kind of frustrations. I would like to suggest to Qi company (Mirko's bosses;), to allow (better word: force) Mirko to work on Paroli one hour per week. To answer questions, and integrate others' works. There are many ongoing work, which needs to be integrated into paroli. There are two branches by Dietrich, namely tacheles and rebase. Where tacheles needs some very deep (tichy/paroli) knowledge, to be able to integrate into paroli. Other seems mostly cleanup. We should really need some kind of communication platform, because I for example never met with Dietrich, but I really like his works (on pyneo.org, I based my gps program on his mappad work. It was he or josch) So there are two more possible contributors: Dietrich and josch. They need some attention, to not lost his interests in paroli. I for example have many more or less working programs, which needs some help to properly integrate into paroli. (I have shoot an email like 4 days ago to Mirko, but no answer;) These are: - calculator app (already usable) - gps app, and I would like to develop some predefined gui for it: walking, running, biking, driving, paragliding The basics works, I need edje (.edc file) gui for more advanced things like zoom in, out and panning;) - note taking app (almost working) - calendar app (I have some gui sketches) - some already done (or planned) gui improvements for paroli - I have some gui ideas, where I need consensus from Mirko and Angus, one of them is putting topbar at the bottom. Because the bottom is not really finger usable, so why waste the valuable space at the top (just under illume's topbar). And it makes little sense to have two topbars at the top. Mirko: If you want to step back from paroli for some time (months), please, please integrate people's work before it, and only leave after. There are many things, where we really need you. Im not able to help Dietrich integrate his dbus based multithreading programs. I (for example) need some tichy help. I think everybody got an idea about paroli status. Best regards, Laszlo So nobody here has any news from Mirko ? Neither QI-Hardware ? I really like Paroli and would love to see this effort congratulate for example by being integrated into SHR too... but if the maintainer remains w/o news... Laszlo what do you think about a fork to apply your patches ? a continue with welcomed contrib ? -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB ste...@le-roux.info 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/3/09, Poul Bondo p...@mailme.dk wrote: Using SHR-unstable 20090721 as daily phone. There is newer version of ophonekitd which fixed most of phone functionality crashes. Ok I will look forward to that :-) Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: 2. No sound on phone calls. In some cases there is no sound on phone calls, i.e. no ring tone (but vibrator ok) and no audio on the voice call. Making outgoing calls and suspend/resume does not help. However on at least one occasion it did help to plug in USB power. Do you have speech-dispatcher installed? If yes, then opkg remove -force-depends speech-dispatcher should help. opkg list_installed | grep speech libspeechd2 - 0.6.6-r3 - However I have only seen (heard) this three times. And on one of these occasions I was breaking my own rule of only using the phone software. I was running intone. So only two real instances. Disregard this for the time being, at least if no one else is experiencing this. Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: 5. Removing the power cable (usb) sometimes means that the phone does not auto suspend. Some debug info? Sorry unfortunately not. I will try to see if I can reproduce this. Is there anything in particular debug information you want ? Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: 7. Phone log will open in multiple instances. If I receive multiple missed calls, I will have several phonelogs open. If I look in the wrong one, it will only report one missed call. If one instance is open while receiving a new phone call it will not be updated. a) Close notifier window instead of clicking on phonelog button. It won't open phonelog ;P b) This is kind of wontfix, as we're playing new UI infrastructure and we'll write new GUI libraries. Notifier will also change. Ok, I can live with that. Thanks for your comments. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-SHR-U--Almost-there-tp3377220p3378537.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
q: sd card android gta02
hi, just got my gta02 and sintalled android via koolu image. but how can i get it to accept the sd-card? any help greatly appreciated! thx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....
On 8/3/09, pbondo p...@mailme.dk wrote: 5. Removing the power cable (usb) sometimes means that the phone does not auto suspend. Some debug info? Sorry unfortunately not. I will try to see if I can reproduce this. Is there anything in particular debug information you want ? I think /var/log/frameworkd.conf just after is happens should be enough :) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] On the road to perfection....
Drifting a little bit further down the road and wanting a not only usable stable phone, but also a better basic phone, the following are observations that I have made over the past week. 1. Contacts / Call button is placed in the same position as Active call / Release button. This has made me make several re-calls. It would help a lot to move one of them. If that didn't make any sense, then what happens is that I press Contacts Call which will pop up Active call. When ending the conversation the other party is faster than me so the Active call is removed before my finger touch is registered. It is therefore forwarded to the next window, which happens to be Contacts / call :-) 2. A common scenario for every day usage is to put the phone in the pocket. When receiving a call anything will happen when I drag the phone out of the pocket. I am not sure what the right solution for this problem is. However one possible solution would be to press the AUX button for locking the phone and let it auto suspend in the pocket. On incoming call it would be very nice to let the power button receive the call. To discard the call first press AUX and then do your thing. Would this be possible and does it make any sense ? 3. When receiving a SMS it is shown in full screen on top of another full screen notifier window. This is quite annoying while in a phone conversation. Suddenly we have 2 pop up windows on top of the active call. Thus if I want to end the current call I have to be aware of and remove 2 windows before I can perform the action that I want. Also as an extra benefit the other part of the phone conversation will clearly hear my SMS ring tone (that is a minor issue). Thanks /Poul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
Hi, I am still alive and by no means agree that I am not doing anything. I would agree that I am not coding right now. I am in active contact with the pyneo crew, met with them in Hamburg and talked with fgau of epydial how to get the apps into paroli. MDT of pyneo who has started 2 branches has taken over the part of doing maintenance on paroli's core (formerly tichy) and this is still the plan. Adding features to paroli right now has been opted against as Angus and I still hope to be able to release Om2009. This requires bug- fixing not new features. I am also collaborating with Mirko from OpenWrt to get paroli fully supported on this platform as well. So nobody here has any news from Mirko ? Neither QI-Hardware ? Not on the mailinglists I admit, but I am online on irc regularly these days. Certainly less than during OM times and maybe difficult to catch due to changing nick names. I really like Paroli and would love to see this effort congratulate for example by being integrated into SHR too... but if the maintainer remains w/o news... Laszlo what do you think about a fork to apply your patches ? a continue with welcomed contrib ? I think a fork would be the worst case scenario. Laszlo also doesn't need to fork, if adding new features is desperately needed how about a branch? Certainly better than splitting the few resources that go into a project. I take part of the blame as I am heavily involved with Qi Hardware at the moment and also do like to socialize and enjoy the sun every now and again. I see a future for paroli and am interested in and working for a revival of a python based multi-purpose device UI. /mirko___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes: Q: I have several compatible batteries. What are the storage requirements for them? A: Keep in a dry cool place charged to no more than 75%. My new gta02 battery shows capacity of 0% when I plug it in and starts to slowly charge. Is it better to charge it to ~40% than to keep it at 0%? Could the capacity measurement get confused during long storage? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: sd card android gta02
tom tomabr...@gmail.com writes: just got my gta02 and sintalled android via koolu image. but how can i get it to accept the sd-card? any help greatly appreciated! Please run dmesg | grep mmc and paste the output. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm writes: - Install all the ipks from http://pvtrace.com/litephone/ (qt deps and phone app itself). Where's the source code? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Jeremy: Sounds like mplayer's nice is back up to 0. Check in settings that it's set to -20 or something insane, so it gets top priority. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....
Am Montag 03 August 2009 17:52:22 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: On 8/3/09, pbondo p...@mailme.dk wrote: 5. Removing the power cable (usb) sometimes means that the phone does not auto suspend. Some debug info? Sorry unfortunately not. I will try to see if I can reproduce this. Is there anything in particular debug information you want ? I think /var/log/frameworkd.conf just after is happens should be enough :) /var/log/frameworkd.log was what he wanted to say ;) -- Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Evopedia version 0.2 prerelease
Hmm it seems as if this are no new features as the version i use for a month included all those features btw. they worked great thank you - the location awareness is a travel guide killer it would rock even more if this would be integrated into e.g. tangogps (all the wikipedia pois displayed, a klick on the poi will launch the according wikipedia article) 2009/8/2 Christian Reitwießner christ...@reitwiessner.de Hi! After some serious changes in the dump format that will hopefully speed up the title search (aside from cleaning the dump a bit) and other changes in the software, evopedia version 0.2 is ready for testing. Evopedia is a Wikipedia reader for offline use. Features include: - live title search - search for geographically near articles - images are included when there is a connection to the internet midori is the default browser used for displaying the html pages, if you don't like it, change it in /usr/bin/evopedia_gui.sh. At the moment, there is only a dump of the German Wikipedia for evopedia 0.2 but others are being generated. Download links: software: http://www.reitwiessner.de/openmoko/evopedia_0.2_any.ipk German Wikipedia dump: http://vitels.cs.uni-tuebingen.de/dumps/de/wikipedia.squashfs Please help improving the software by testing it and ask for languages to create dumps for. Kind regards, Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
http://www.sf.net/projects/litephone 2009/8/3 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm writes: - Install all the ipks from http://pvtrace.com/litephone/ (qt deps and phone app itself). Where's the source code? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Mirko Lindnervegyra...@paroli-project.org wrote: Hi, I am still alive and by no means agree that I am not doing anything. I would agree that I am not coding right now. I am in active contact with the pyneo crew, met with them in Hamburg and talked with fgau of epydial how to get the apps into paroli. MDT of pyneo who has started 2 branches has taken over the part of doing maintenance on paroli's core (formerly tichy) and this is still the plan. Adding features to paroli right now has been opted against as Angus and I still hope to be able to release Om2009. This requires bug-fixing not new features. I am also collaborating with Mirko from OpenWrt to get paroli fully supported on this platform as well. So nobody here has any news from Mirko ? Neither QI-Hardware ? Not on the mailinglists I admit, but I am online on irc regularly these days. Certainly less than during OM times and maybe difficult to catch due to changing nick names. Good to know :) I really like Paroli and would love to see this effort congratulate for example by being integrated into SHR too... but if the maintainer remains w/o news... Laszlo what do you think about a fork to apply your patches ? a continue with welcomed contrib ? I think a fork would be the worst case scenario. And you're right ! It was the last possible scenario to adopt... Laszlo also doesn't need to fork, if adding new features is desperately needed how about a branch? Certainly better than splitting the few resources that go into a project. I take part of the blame as I am heavily involved with Qi Hardware at the moment and also do like to socialize and enjoy the sun every now and again. I see a future for paroli and am interested in and working for a revival of a python based multi-purpose device UI. There is no pb being off for a while... but mails was looking like you're dead 2 month ago ;). So let's stabilize and what non-coding user can do more then adding tickets to the Trac ? /mirko -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB ste...@le-roux.info 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
Hey again, On 3 Aug 2009, at 19:01, Steven Le Roux wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Mirko Lindnervegyra...@paroli-project.org wrote: Hi, I am still alive and by no means agree that I am not doing anything. I would agree that I am not coding right now. I am in active contact with the pyneo crew, met with them in Hamburg and talked with fgau of epydial how to get the apps into paroli. MDT of pyneo who has started 2 branches has taken over the part of doing maintenance on paroli's core (formerly tichy) and this is still the plan. Adding features to paroli right now has been opted against as Angus and I still hope to be able to release Om2009. This requires bug-fixing not new features. I am also collaborating with Mirko from OpenWrt to get paroli fully supported on this platform as well. So nobody here has any news from Mirko ? Neither QI-Hardware ? Not on the mailinglists I admit, but I am online on irc regularly these days. Certainly less than during OM times and maybe difficult to catch due to changing nick names. Good to know :) For the record: vegyraupe, mirko-paroli, mirkolindner on irc :) I really like Paroli and would love to see this effort congratulate for example by being integrated into SHR too... but if the maintainer remains w/o news... Laszlo what do you think about a fork to apply your patches ? a continue with welcomed contrib ? I think a fork would be the worst case scenario. And you're right ! It was the last possible scenario to adopt... Laszlo also doesn't need to fork, if adding new features is desperately needed how about a branch? Certainly better than splitting the few resources that go into a project. I take part of the blame as I am heavily involved with Qi Hardware at the moment and also do like to socialize and enjoy the sun every now and again. I see a future for paroli and am interested in and working for a revival of a python based multi-purpose device UI. There is no pb being off for a while... but mails was looking like you're dead 2 month ago ;). Hehe, I did talk with Laszlo every now and again so there was communication, but I completely understand his frustration. So let's stabilize and what non-coding user can do more then adding tickets to the Trac ? Yes and trying to figure out when which errors appear that allows us (coders) to fix the problems faster. There was a problem with the suspend on the last OWrt image which meant I couldn't use the phone as my daily but I am optimistic that this will be solved soon and thus enjoy my own bugs on a daily basis and fix them :) /mirko -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB ste...@le-roux.info 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:30 AM, The Digital Pioneerdigitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Jeremy: Sounds like mplayer's nice is back up to 0. Check in settings that it's set to -20 or something insane, so it gets top priority. not even that, a simple restart did the trick thanks again c_c for the app ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
On Monday 03 August 2009, Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/8/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no Michal Brzozowski wrote: Litephone beta1 is available here: http://pvtrace.com/litephone/litephone_0.0.1-r2_armv4t.ipk Beta impressions: * When the phone rings, please have litephone jump to the foreground. Currently, I have to wade through several other running apps in order to pick up the phone. I was wondering when someone brings this up :-). Actually I don't like the idea of poping up the phone window when the user is doing something. I have a plan to show a little xshape gadget on the bottom of the screen on incoming call or sms. On call it would probably show accept/reject/mute buttons, the first one additonally bringing up the phone window on click. On sms it would display the content in a one line pager style, and have show/hide message buttons. That sounds much better than popping up the phone window. Remember to make sure these appear somewhere other than where the keyboard is though! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.3 released
Hi,
(some more information here:
https://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=253group_id=156atid=670)
I think, this is not a problem of PISI, but one of a site-package
python-netclient. I don't know what's wrong with your installation - on
my SHR-U PISI Calendar Sync with Google is working fine.
Could you please check (and maybe re-install) you python-netclient package?
My version is 2.6.2-ml4.1.
BitKeeper wrote:
Hi,
I get this error on shr-u
pisi googleCalendar pimlicodates
Traceback (most recent call
last):] Starting
Configuration
File /bin/pisi, line 156, in module
pisicli.startCLI()
File /opt/pisi/pisicli.py, line 215, in startCLI
source = pisi.importModules(configfolder, config, modulesToLoad,
modulesNamesCombined, soft)
File /opt/pisi/pisi.py, line 82, in importModules
exec source.append(
module+i.__str__()+.SynchronizationModule(modulesNamesCombined,
config, modulesToLoad[i], modulesFolder+modulesToLoad[i]+'/', True, soft) )
File string, line 1, in module
File /opt/pisi/modules/calendar_google.py, line 51, in __init__
self._login( user, password )
File /opt/pisi/modules/calendar_google.py, line 239, in _login
self.cal_client.ProgrammaticLogin()
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gdata/service.py, line 753, in
ProgrammaticLogin
headers={'Content-Type':'application/x-www-form-urlencoded'})
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/atom/http.py, line 93, in request
connection = self._prepare_connection(url, all_headers)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/atom/http.py, line 234, in
_prepare_connection
return HttpClient._prepare_connection(self, url, headers)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/atom/http.py, line 157, in
_prepare_connection
return httplib.HTTPSConnection(url.host)
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'HTTPSConnection'
Something to do with python ssl support?
# python --version
Python 2.6.2
Thanks,
Bannon
2009/7/20 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz mailto:van...@penguin.cz
could someone help me with setting this up? i've got a new conf file,
with the necessary items in, so now pimlico dates appears in the
calendar list
my conf file contains this:
[googleCalendar]
description=My Google Calendar
module=calendar_google
user=robin.paul...@gmail.com mailto:robin.paul...@gmail.com
password=my password
calendarid=robin.paul...@gmail.com mailto:robin.paul...@gmail.com
[pimlicodates]
description= Pimlico Dates
module=calendar_ics
path=/home/root/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics
when i select the corresponding items in the pisi gui, and hit start,
it reports 'Configuring (0%)', but does nothing
i'm guessing i've stuffed up the config for gcalendar, but can't see
where
on shr-u, make sure you have pisi and dates installed. you have to run
dates at least once for the storage file to exist.
relevant section of my ./pisi/conf:
[googleCalendar]
description=My Google Calendar
module=calendar_google
user=petr...@gmail.com mailto:petr...@gmail.com
password=**
calendarid=petr...@gmail.com mailto:petr...@gmail.com
[pimlicodates]
description= Pimlico Dates
module=calendar_ics
path=/home/root/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics
This is it. Btw the calendar sync in pisi doesn't have conflict mode
settings so if you reinstall your distro (like i did now) and your
appointments are in google only, they will get erased...fortunately
there is a backup in the .pisi dir :)
good luck
Petr
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Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm writes:
http://www.sf.net/projects/litephone
Thanks, here's a list of comments:
1) Icons in Png directory are under Creative Commons license, created
by Axialis Team, axialis.com. says README. There are multiple CC
licenses, which one is this?
1) Same for source code. Even though the sourceforge project page says
GPL you really should specify the license in the source repository
too.
3) Would be nice to have at least minimal compilation instruction for
those who don't have an offline copy of the wiki. Here's a patch:
Index: README
===
--- README (revision 12)
+++ README (working copy)
@@ -1,3 +1,8 @@
-This is the Litephone source distribution. Read
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Developing_with_C%2B%2B_and_Qt for compile
instructions.
+This is the Litephone source distribution. Read
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Developing_with_C%2B%2B_and_Qt for compile
instructions. If you are not cross-compiling you can just
+1) qmake-qt4
+2) make
+
+and then run the ./litephone executable. There is no install target currently.
+
Icons in Png directory are under Creative Commons license, created by Axialis
Team, axialis.com.
4) There's no --help: User needs to read the source to discover demo
and nogsm modes. Consider something like
Index: main.cpp
===
--- main.cpp(revision 12)
+++ main.cpp(working copy)
@@ -6,6 +6,7 @@
#include QDateTime
#include QInputDialog
#include QMessageBox
+#include iostream
#include logger.h
@@ -931,7 +932,10 @@
phone.enableMockGsm();
else if (argc 1 QString(argv[1]) == nogsm)
phone.disableGsm();
-else
+else if (argc 1 QString(argv[1]) == --help){
+std::cout usage: litephone [demo|nogsm] std::endl;
+return 0;
+} else
phone.enableGsm();
return a.exec();
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Re: q: sd card android gta02
tom wrote: hi, just got my gta02 and sintalled android via koolu image. but how can i get it to accept the sd-card? any help greatly appreciated! I had a similar issue, whereby android is looking in the wrong location for the mmc host, see the ticket I logged about it here: http://trac.koolu.org/ticket/33 If this is the same case for you (make sure this really is the issue you're having first) then you can download my system.img file from: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/system.img that contains a vold.conf with the alternative path selected. Replace the system.img on your SD card and rerun the installation process. It's designed to work with the koolu cupcake 1.5 alpha1 image, so make sure that's what you're using: http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Hi, Marcel-2 wrote: I've regenerated the intone_songs.db already, but still intone only shows the album's name instead of the track title in the playlist. Well, there was a regression in the scanning routine. Though I fixed it almost immediately, I guess a few of the initial downloads would have been bitten by it. Can you re-download the ipk (from above) install and rescan? That should fix things for you. @ jeremy - apart from the restart - the nice value really helps!! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.62-release-tp3376283p3379603.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: sd card android gta02
hi mike , thx for the information, reading ur mail and being a newbiw in terms of freerunner my first question would be: 1) what exaclty is the difference between koolu-andorid-release 7 and 2) http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ ? thx for ur infos! tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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tom wrote: hi mike , thx for the information, reading ur mail and being a newbiw in terms of freerunner my first question would be: 1) what exaclty is the difference between koolu-andorid-release 7 and 2) http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ ? The koolu beta 7 release is based around Android 1.0 (which is a little old now), where as the cupcake 1.5 alpha1 release is based around Android 1.5 (nicknamed Cupcake) which is much more recent. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: sd card android gta02
the installation procedure is the same as for the koolu images? put on the sd card and boot from sd? thx On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Michael Sheldon m...@mikeasoft.com wrote: tom wrote: hi mike , thx for the information, reading ur mail and being a newbiw in terms of freerunner my first question would be: 1) what exaclty is the difference between koolu-andorid-release 7 and 2) http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ ? The koolu beta 7 release is based around Android 1.0 (which is a little old now), where as the cupcake 1.5 alpha1 release is based around Android 1.5 (nicknamed Cupcake) which is much more recent. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: sd card android gta02
tom wrote: the installation procedure is the same as for the koolu images? put on the sd card and boot from sd? thx Yes, unpack http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/android-freerunner-koolu1.5-alpha-1.tar.gz on to the sd card then overwrite system.img with my version linked to earlier in this thread. After that just boot from the sd card and it'll install. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Am Montag, 3. August 2009 20:25:24 schrieb c_c: Hi, Marcel-2 wrote: I've regenerated the intone_songs.db already, but still intone only shows the album's name instead of the track title in the playlist. Well, there was a regression in the scanning routine. Though I fixed it almost immediately, I guess a few of the initial downloads would have been bitten by it. Can you re-download the ipk (from above) install and rescan? That should fix things for you. The special OM2009 package fixed it, thanks! :) -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V5
Radek Polak wrote: Tschaka wrote: * Wifi doesnt work. It just doesnt connect. It seems that in debian wpa_supplicant is in /sbin while the wireless script expects it in /usr/sbin. Could you try if ln -s /sbin/wpa_supplicant /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant helps? Thanks Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community That did it. Thanks! Wifi is working with wpa2 AES and now i can start using the email programm, which is _very_ nice! And the browser is even finger friendly, i can browse with just dragging the page. impressive! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QtMoko--New-debian-images-V5-tp3346164p3379795.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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tom wrote: ok just installed it, and yes, after the boot i have a new screen with the emergency call button, but i cant get beyond that one...help thx That's not something I've encountered myself, you might have better luck asking on the android-freerunner mailing list at: http://android.koolu.org/listinfo.cgi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready
Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes: Could the capacity measurement get confused during long storage? Answering to myself here: When I charged the battery capacity increased steadily but when it reached 67% it suddenly jumped to 100% in one minute. I think this concludes that the capacity reported by Linux is not always correct. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Evopedia version 0.2 prerelease
tb schrieb: Hmm it seems as if this are no new features as the version i use for a month included all those features btw. they worked great thank you - the location awareness is a travel guide killer it would rock even more if this would be integrated into e.g. tangogps (all the wikipedia pois displayed, a klick on the poi will launch the according wikipedia article) You are right, there are no new ideas in evopedia 2.0 with respect to version 1.5, only the articles are more recent and the file format has changed. There is actually one difference: evopedia 2.0 should save your GPS position between two searches, so you should still get reasonable location search results when you enter a building. Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....
1. After I have made a phone call (incoming or outgoing) I need to look into if I believe the phone is still working. Ie. can I receive another call. I don't know exactly what happens, but quite often the phone is broken. Typical symptoms that something is wrong is that the phone will not auto suspend. Settings / Power / Auto suspend will not slide to On. When the phone enters this state it cannot receive any more phone calls / SMS. The solution to this is typically a power off/on. In this state it also does not do a proper logout / shutdown. But pressing the power button for some 8-10 seconds will shutdown. There is newer version of ophonekitd which fixed most of phone functionality crashes. is it available somewhere? last commit to ophonekitd was two months ago... cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card
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Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready
On Monday 03 August 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes: Could the capacity measurement get confused during long storage? Answering to myself here: When I charged the battery capacity increased steadily but when it reached 67% it suddenly jumped to 100% in one minute. I think this concludes that the capacity reported by Linux is not always correct. Where exactly is this figure from? Are you looking at the battery monitor sysfs entry, or something that gets the incorrect figure from hal? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Mokoconnect/connman not working like it use to?
I started using mokoconnet after seeing it in opkg.org and saw that it was being considered to replace mofi in the SHR unstable image. Back then mokoconnect was working flawlessly (other than needed to restart connmand when I reboot the phone) when nothing nothing else would work because of the wifi kernel bug. Now I am using the version that is is the SHR feeds doesn't work like it use to, this version has trouble finding the AP for the profile, it has to force a 30 second scan for the AP then if it can find it then it times out waiting for DHCP. When it does connect and decided to work it doesn't reconnect after a resume like the old version did. -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
