Re: QtMoko v26
On Thursday 16 September 2010, Jim Morris wrote: Ori Pessach wrote: I didn't mention it, but I did just that. I stood in a field, looking at grasshoppers for 5 minutes. That's when I decided to take a walk. Â This weekend, I left my FR on a table in the back yard for 20 minutes. Still no fix. Ok, so a couple of things you can try... take out the memry card if you have one in, on older models having that in could cause enough interference to stop the gps getting a fix Not unless there's been a kernel regression. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dbus moving into kernel?
Dnia 2010-09-16, czw o godzinie 17:23 +0100, Al Johnson pisze: kdbus is proof-of-concept at the moment, the idea being to reduce the number of context switches needed for each dbus message. One synthetic benchmark shows a 3x speed increase on the n900 but speedup in real world applications seems much more modest. There are a lot of complaints about Dbus IPC. That makes me wonder why people don't use one of already existing kernel IPCs [1][2] , and instead try to develop another one, which is not secure as I heard? [1] http://tldp.org/LDP/lpg/node7.html [2] http://tldp.org/LDP/tlk/ipc/ipc.html -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Anyone ever fixed the from 129 SMS on any distro?
Having recently come back to my FR after a year or so, I find it still gets the from 129 SMS after calling the voicemail. (I know what it is, I just want to fix it ;) I was wondering if anyone ever fixed this on any distro, and if so how? I want to fix the problem on qtmoko, and copying what others have done would make it much easier. Thanks -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
On Thursday 16 September 2010 19:54:12 Ori Pessach wrote: It doesn't work this way for me. How do I debug it? Close NeronGPS and all other apps that might use GPS. Then use console and do: /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh cat /dev/ttySAC1 You should see what GPS chip is sending - it will be similar to this output: $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANTSUPERV=AC SD OD PDoS *0A $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANT$GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 If this works then your problem is probably just GPS satelite visibility. The output should contain GPGSA,A,3 substring once you get a fix (i am not 100% sure about this - you should search google and try to find something about nmea to be sure...). Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dbus moving into kernel?
Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl writes: Dnia 2010-09-16, czw o godzinie 17:23 +0100, Al Johnson pisze: kdbus is proof-of-concept at the moment, the idea being to reduce the number of context switches needed for each dbus message. One synthetic benchmark shows a 3x speed increase on the n900 but speedup in real world applications seems much more modest. There are a lot of complaints about Dbus IPC. That makes me wonder why people don't use one of already existing kernel IPCs [1][2] , and instead try to develop another one, which is not secure as I heard? [1] http://tldp.org/LDP/lpg/node7.html [2] http://tldp.org/LDP/tlk/ipc/ipc.html I once heard a conversation between two of my fellow engineers: e0: I think it's time we came up with something like an API. e1: We have an API. e0 (joking): What, `PEEK and POKE'? e1 (seriously): Yes--`PEEK and POKE' *is* an API. (neither e0 nor I work there, anymore--but I hear that e1 got promoted) Of course people *do* use pipes and sockets, etc.: those are the primitives on which something more fully-featured (like RPC, or CORBA, or D-Bus) is built. -- Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken AUX :-(
Le 17/09/2010 07:48, Christ van Willegen a écrit : On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Alex Samorukov m...@os2.kiev.ua wrote: On 09/16/2010 09:37 PM, Christ van Willegen wrote: Hello everyone, I think I broke my AUX button tonight. Is there anyone who can fiox this? I did this one time. Open your phone and find if aux button on board is damaged or not. In my case it was only unsoldered, so i soldered it back myself. I don't feel very confident that I can solder it back on myself. Perhaps a friendly neighbour can... I'll see when I get the time to open the phone. Unfortunately, work and RL takes up most of the week lately :-( Christ van Willegen Hi, I fixed one during an outside fair (Braderie de Lille), on a wood table, while my brother was mixing music on the same table... So it is not AT ALL difficult - you d'ont have to remove the motherboard - You only have to be calm without cafein in your veins (is it only possible ;-) ) Good luck, -- Thomas HOCEDEZ / asthro / openmoko-fr.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote: On Thursday 16 September 2010, Jim Morris wrote: Ori Pessach wrote: I didn't mention it, but I did just that. I stood in a field, looking at grasshoppers for 5 minutes. That's when I decided to take a walk. Â This weekend, I left my FR on a table in the back yard for 20 minutes. Still no fix. Ok, so a couple of things you can try... take out the memry card if you have one in, on older models having that in could cause enough interference to stop the gps getting a fix Not unless there's been a kernel regression. And it doesn't make a difference in my case, so I think we can safely rule out a kernel regression. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Thursday 16 September 2010 19:54:12 Ori Pessach wrote: It doesn't work this way for me. How do I debug it? Close NeronGPS and all other apps that might use GPS. Then use console and do: /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh cat /dev/ttySAC1 You should see what GPS chip is sending - it will be similar to this output: $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANTSUPERV=AC SD OD PDoS *0A $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANT$GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 If this works then your problem is probably just GPS satelite visibility. The output should contain GPGSA,A,3 substring once you get a fix (i am not 100% sure about this - you should search google and try to find something about nmea to be sure...). Regards Radek Well, here's what I'm getting: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 etc. (I'm copying this off the phone's terminal so I think I can be excused if I don't copy the whole output.) It's very similar to what you listed above, except that there are no $GPTXT lines. Any idea what that means? -- Ori Pessach ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Thursday 16 September 2010 19:54:12 Ori Pessach wrote: It doesn't work this way for me. How do I debug it? Close NeronGPS and all other apps that might use GPS. Then use console and do: /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh cat /dev/ttySAC1 You should see what GPS chip is sending - it will be similar to this output: $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANTSUPERV=AC SD OD PDoS *0A $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANT$GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 If this works then your problem is probably just GPS satelite visibility. The output should contain GPGSA,A,3 substring once you get a fix (i am not 100% sure about this - you should search google and try to find something about nmea to be sure...). Regards Radek Oh, and one other thing: I'm doing all these tests outdoors, in a residential area with nothing over two stories high, and a clear view of a blue sky. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
Ori Pessach wrote: Well, here's what I'm getting: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 etc. (I'm copying this off the phone's terminal so I think I can be excused if I don't copy the whole output.) It's very similar to what you listed above, except that there are no $GPTXT lines. Any idea what that means? Sorry i dont know much about GPS. There was an application which was showing GPS sattelites, but needs GPSD daemon running. This application would be very useful now, but i dont know of easy way to make it working now... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Ori Pessach wrote: Well, here's what I'm getting: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 etc. (I'm copying this off the phone's terminal so I think I can be excused if I don't copy the whole output.) It's very similar to what you listed above, except that there are no $GPTXT lines. Any idea what that means? Sorry i dont know much about GPS. There was an application which was showing GPS sattelites, but needs GPSD daemon running. This application would be very useful now, but i dont know of easy way to make it working now... Regards Radek The GPGSA line is consistently showing that the GPS isn't getting a fix. (The line would start with A,2 or A,3 if it had 2D or 3D fix, respectively, according to the NMEA documentation I found.) I don't see any other information being dumped out of the GPS - is there perhaps an initialization procedure I can look at? Also, does anyone know which external antenna I would need to connect to the FR's GPS antenna connector? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
LCA2011 Mobile FOSS Miniconf CfP
The miniconfs at LCA2011 in Brisbane, Australia was recently announced and includes a Mobile FOSS miniconf. Are any OpenMoko folks planning on submitting any talks? The CfP closes Friday 22nd October 2010. http://lca2011.linux.org.au/media/news/34 http://mobilefoss.jamespurser.com.au/Call_For_Papers -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
repairing FR back cover?
Hi all, So, I dropped my FR one too many times and broke the remaining short prong (I broke the other one a while ago) that holds the end of back cover (near the hole) in place. The two longer prongs on the side of the cover are still intact so the cover stays on but it comes off more easily when I drop it. Does anyone have some ideas for how to repair it, keeping in mind I lost the two plastic bits that broke off? Or are there spare parts available for the FR still? [Please CC me if you reply] -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
