Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?
2010/10/6 Edder ed...@tkwsping.nl: Will it support headphone, with a microphone? I think it's safe nowadays to just assume Bluetooth headphones, ie. not all devices need the extra plugs if something has to be sacrificed. 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it: Looks like it miss USB connectivity and I need SSH strongly! Well SSH over Bluetooth personal area network works just fine, but indeed I'd also like USB port for charging and connecting other devices (host mode) 2010/10/6 Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau maxpose...@gmail.com: Sorry, I don't have skills in GPS, I just see that FR have a problem with getting fix It doesn't have a problem getting fix hardware-wise, probably just the software you use is not similar in features to eg. separately sold navigators. Which means that you have it always getting a fix starting without any data, where it takes similar time (or less) to most separate GPS devices. Basically the GPS hw on FreeRunner is quite good. I don't know what's the status of saving the GPS data and re-uploading those when turned on. Is it implemented in some version of FSO/gpsd or other software. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?
2010-10...@10:52 Timo Jyrinki 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' mariani: Looks like it miss USB connectivity and I need SSH strongly! Well SSH over Bluetooth personal area network works just fine, but indeed I'd also like USB port for charging and connecting other devices (host mode) please keep in mind that there is an European directive about that: http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/ http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/02/european_commission_pushing_microusb_standard_for_mobile_phone_chargers-2/ I intended we _MUST_ include the microusb for any new mobile phone if it has to be sold in EU. and if we do not strictly must, it's a clever solution because: - you do not have to sell also the ad-hoc charger with the new hardware. - an user can easily find a compatible charging source when not at home (eg. friends, colleagues, any computer, car's usb socket...) btw microusb is quite thin, so maybe we can put it side by side to the 40pin connector using both sides of the MID's pcb. -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wikireader development - Ideas and improvements
Hi Sean, Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 16:34 +0800 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz: Just about everything is done in Python that has to do with parsing. So you should be fine. If you are interested in developing, get our codes from github, let us know when you have something good, and we'd love to pull it back into future releases. Feel free to email us if you have any questions! I have looked into the code a bit and have a few starting problems. Perhaps you can write a small howto about generating the files for the wikireader: - Which base files use the wikireader for converting = XML Datadump? - How works the converting process where i have to store the data? - Is it possible to use only one file for converting? * so it's possible to generate own content - not a wiki. For me it would be very helpful so i can concentrate on the parser and can test it directly. Perhaps you can describe the process to convert Wikipedia XY into the wiki.dat format and describe how own content can be integrated. From the git checkout to a working wikipedia XY. with kind regards Patrick signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?
09.10.2010 16:56, Alfa21 пишет: 2010-10...@10:52 Timo Jyrinki 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' mariani: Looks like it miss USB connectivity and I need SSH strongly! Well SSH over Bluetooth personal area network works just fine, but indeed I'd also like USB port for charging and connecting other devices (host mode) please keep in mind that there is an European directive about that: http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/ http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/02/european_commission_pushing_microusb_standard_for_mobile_phone_chargers-2/ I intended we _MUST_ include the microusb for any new mobile phone if it has to be sold in EU. and if we do not strictly must, it's a clever solution because: - you do not have to sell also the ad-hoc charger with the new hardware. - an user can easily find a compatible charging source when not at home (eg. friends, colleagues, any computer, car's usb socket...) btw microusb is quite thin, so maybe we can put it side by side to the 40pin connector using both sides of the MID's pcb. Dudes, what you think about normal usb instead microusb? many devices can be easily plugged into the phone. Not for long usage of course. flash drives, tv tuners, keyboard, gamepad, etc... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSM buzz fix and freebeer brewing party in Washington, DC
Hello, I'd like to announce a GSM buzz fix party in the DC metro area. At this time i'm just gathering interest. When we have a sufficient number of people, i'll announce the date and place. Please mark your interest on this wiki page or email me directly. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty#Washington.2C_DC_-_United_States Even if you don't have the buzz issue, stop by. We can try my batch of http://freebeer.org and brew some more (of course modifying and improving the recipe). Having no idea what the level of interest is, i'd like to reserve the right to limit the number of people attending. Brian -- Brian DeRocher http://brian.derocher.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: GSM buzz fix and freebeer brewing party in Washington, DC
Will it be possible to send in two Freerunners to have them Buzz-fixed? How much would it cost? Thanks Martin From: br...@derocher.org To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 11:01:08 -0400 Subject: GSM buzz fix and freebeer brewing party in Washington, DC Hello, I'd like to announce a GSM buzz fix party in the DC metro area. At this time i'm just gathering interest. When we have a sufficient number of people, i'll announce the date and place. Please mark your interest on this wiki page or email me directly. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty#Washington.2C_DC_-_United_States Even if you don't have the buzz issue, stop by. We can try my batch of http://freebeer.org and brew some more (of course modifying and improving the recipe). Having no idea what the level of interest is, i'd like to reserve the right to limit the number of people attending. Brian -- Brian DeRocher http://brian.derocher.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?
On Saturday 09 October 2010, Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2010/10/6 Edder ed...@tkwsping.nl: Will it support headphone, with a microphone? I think it's safe nowadays to just assume Bluetooth headphones, ie. not all devices need the extra plugs if something has to be sacrificed. The 40 pin connector[1] has pins for headset left, right, mic and detect, so it should support a headset connecting through this at least. There is also a minijack socket that appears to be 3.5mm[2], but the spec[3] and pin disposition suggest this may be audio out only. If so it's an odd choice as there is a de fatcto standard for 4-pole minijacks for headphone and headset. 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it: Looks like it miss USB connectivity and I need SSH strongly! Well SSH over Bluetooth personal area network works just fine, but indeed I'd also like USB port for charging and connecting other devices (host mode) USB is also on the 40-pin connector. Judging by the beagleboard, the OTG pins wil give gadget or OTG support while the other port will give host mode. There doesn't appear to be a 5V out pin though, so host mode may be unpowered. Personally I would rather see a pair of usb ports than the micro-HDMI and the barrel power connector, and make sure the headset connector is 4-pole with mic support. [1] http://alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/40-pin_connector [2] http://alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/MID_board [3] http://alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/Smart_Book_specs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?
Em 09-10-2010 15:15, Chuck Norris escreveu: Dudes, what you think about normal usb instead microusb? many devices can be easily plugged into the phone. Not for long usage of course. flash drives, tv tuners, keyboard, gamepad, etc... µ-usb means a much smaller piece, contributing to smaller size, lesser weigh and particle penetration (dust, all) and more compliance with EU law. Don't know about prices, on one hand it's more common so should be less pricey, but on the other hand it has much more material. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz fix and freebeer brewing party in Washington, DC
Martin, On Saturday 09 October 2010 11:19:49 Martin Hagwall wrote: Will it be possible to send in two Freerunners to have them Buzz-fixed? The way i'll handle this is, people attending may offer to fix mailed in devices. And people needing fixes by mail may request a sponsor to work on their devices. So it's up to your sponsor. How much would it cost? Hard to say. Probably this is best left to an arrangement between people needing fixes and people offering to work on them. People with the skills and equipment to perform this procedure are hard to find. People needing fixes would pay for parts and shipping the device of course. Brian -- Brian DeRocher http://brian.derocher.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?
On 10/09/2010 08:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Em 09-10-2010 15:15, Chuck Norris escreveu: Dudes, what you think about normal usb instead microusb? many devices can be easily plugged into the phone. Not for long usage of course. flash drives, tv tuners, keyboard, gamepad, etc... µ-usb means a much smaller piece, contributing to smaller size, lesser weigh and particle penetration (dust, all) and more compliance with EU law. Don't know about prices, on one hand it's more common so should be less pricey, but on the other hand it has much more material. Rui _ Hello, This idea sounds a good one, but as Rui said, the main problem is a lack of space. The USB female connector is 4 to 6 times bigger than a MiniUSB one ... And when you work on a phone, you can put a lot of things in such place. But It's not a bad idea to add a miniUSB/USB adapter in the box (why not a 'U' adapter that let the USB device behind the phone (parallel)... I repeat : sounds good. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?
On 10/09/2010 06:15 PM, Al Johnson wrote: On Saturday 09 October 2010, Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2010/10/6 Eddered...@tkwsping.nl: Will it support headphone, with a microphone? I think it's safe nowadays to just assume Bluetooth headphones, ie. not all devices need the extra plugs if something has to be sacrificed. The 40 pin connector[1] has pins for headset left, right, mic and detect, so it should support a headset connecting through this at least. There is also a minijack socket that appears to be 3.5mm[2], but the spec[3] and pin disposition suggest this may be audio out only. If so it's an odd choice as there is a de fatcto standard for 4-pole minijacks for headphone and headset. 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' marianigiacomomari...@yahoo.it: Looks like it miss USB connectivity and I need SSH strongly! Well SSH over Bluetooth personal area network works just fine, but indeed I'd also like USB port for charging and connecting other devices (host mode) USB is also on the 40-pin connector. Judging by the beagleboard, the OTG pins wil give gadget or OTG support while the other port will give host mode. There doesn't appear to be a 5V out pin though, so host mode may be unpowered. Personally I would rather see a pair of usb ports than the micro-HDMI and the barrel power connector, and make sure the headset connector is 4-pole with mic support. [1] http://alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/40-pin_connector [2] http://alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/MID_board [3] http://alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/Smart_Book_specs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Interesting notes ! I add them to the Do/Don't Do list. I just answerd about a USB adapter (pluged into the 40pins). Perhaphs a multiport adapter, plugged in the 40pins, but with a 'U' form factor, so the wires will be parallel to the phone and behind. What about that ? AstHrO ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
