Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
On Tuesday 26 October 2010 17:50:43 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Suddenly it became obvious... There is an open phone where approx. 18000 cases have been sold. It is called Neo Freerunner (and 3000 thereof are Neo 1973). So there are nice cases out there. Well, they lack some features, but other cases aren't perfect either. So why get a different one, when most of us already have one :) Agree, i am more interested in the board now than the case. Until all the software is working the case is not problem for me. When it starts working as a phone i will not need my freerunner case anymore, since i dont plan to carry 2 phones with me. I think your strategy is good. Another idea - i wonder if i could make the case of wood. That would be very environment friendly and wood is also good material. But that's just idea. I was thinking about buying N900 since it's very cheap now, but this project looks much better and i am looking forward to start some hacking on it :) Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
On Wednesday 27 October 2010, Radek Polak wrote: Another idea - i wonder if i could make the case of wood. That would be very environment friendly and wood is also good material. But that's just idea. Laser cutting works with wood, though you do get slightly charred edges. Milling works well with a lot of hardwoods. There might be some design features that depend on material properties, so you might need some modifications for a wood case, but it's certainly worth a try. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Am 27.10.2010 um 11:18 schrieb Al Johnson: On Wednesday 27 October 2010, Radek Polak wrote: Another idea - i wonder if i could make the case of wood. That would be very environment friendly and wood is also good material. But that's just idea. Laser cutting works with wood, though you do get slightly charred edges. Milling works well with a lot of hardwoods. There might be some design features that depend on material properties, so you might need some modifications for a wood case, but it's certainly worth a try. We should find someone who is making wooden musical instruments (woodwinds and strings). They should know which type of tree is the best one for fine and precise structures and how to cut and glue it. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FoxtrotGPS 1.0.0 now available
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:37:54 -0400 Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com (JJR) wrote: Hi everybody, I'm pleased to announce the release of FoxtrotGPS 1.0.0, the first stable release since branching from tangoGPS; tarballs (with detached GnuPG signatures) are available at http://www.foxtrotgps.org/releases/. thank you for continuous work on this great project! Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko lagging after 2nd boot - was: qtmoko v28
Hi everyone, I am writing here because I'm having some serious usability issues with the latest qtmoko version, v28. After flashing it to NAND, its speed was impressive: ultra-fast boot, great responsiveness and absolutely no lags. I set up my wifi network, installed 2 or 3 packages and shutdown the phone since it was slowing down. At first I tought this could be a RAM problem, but booting my Freerunner again after some time (~2 hours) I noticed a general slowness and frequent lags from the beginning. For example, kinetic scrolling is now quite unresponsive (it stops and only after few seconds - 2 or 3 - completes the scrolling) and I can't write a text message because the keyboard takes a lot of time to reply to my input on the touchscreen. Btw, I am absolutely sure this is not a problem related to packages installed: they are all games or simple utilities. Also, logging service is off. Is someone experiencing the same problems? Kind regards, Ugo Raffaele Piemontese ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
2010/10/27 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz Another idea - i wonder if i could make the case of wood. That would be very environment friendly and wood is also good material. But that's just idea. I often thought about this, and i think its a very nice idea. It would give a nice feeling in the hand, i think. Maybe especially for people with sweaty hands, like me. But you have to rethink a whole lot. I think wood can be bended like plastics, but its not as elastic as plastic, it will wear off faster. You cannot make a clip mounting for the back cover, like it is now. Cheers, Fabian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko lagging after 2nd boot - was: qtmoko v28
On Wednesday 27 October 2010 12:14:44 Ugo Raffaele Piemontese wrote: Hi everyone, I am writing here because I'm having some serious usability issues with the latest qtmoko version, v28. After flashing it to NAND, its speed was impressive: ultra-fast boot, great responsiveness and absolutely no lags. I set up my wifi network, installed 2 or 3 packages and shutdown the phone since it was slowing down. At first I tought this could be a RAM problem, but booting my Freerunner again after some time (~2 hours) I noticed a general slowness and frequent lags from the beginning. For example, kinetic scrolling is now quite unresponsive (it stops and only after few seconds - 2 or 3 - completes the scrolling) and I can't write a text message because the keyboard takes a lot of time to reply to my input on the touchscreen. Btw, I am absolutely sure this is not a problem related to packages installed: they are all games or simple utilities. Also, logging service is off. Is someone experiencing the same problems? Is it reproducible and always or just occasional? It would be worth to connect freerunner to PC and check from SSH if top shows some extra cpu usage or maybe there is some hint in dmesg. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: qtmoko lagging after 2nd boot - was: qtmoko v28
On Wednesday 27 October 2010 13:10:43 Radek Polak wrote: Is it reproducible and always or just occasional? It would be worth to connect freerunner to PC and check from SSH if top shows some extra cpu usage or maybe there is some hint in dmesg. Hi Radek, top and dmesg show nothing interesting... Maximum cpu usage is about 40% and ram usage is 38% max. Gpe process uses most resources during slowdowns (24% cpu, 27.7% ram). Kind regards, Ugo Raffaele Piemontese ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: qtmoko lagging after 2nd boot - was: qtmoko v28
On Wednesday 27 October 2010 13:30:23 Ugo Raffaele Piemontese wrote: On Wednesday 27 October 2010 13:10:43 Radek Polak wrote: Is it reproducible and always or just occasional? It would be worth to connect freerunner to PC and check from SSH if top shows some extra cpu usage or maybe there is some hint in dmesg. Hi Radek, top and dmesg show nothing interesting... Maximum cpu usage is about 40% and ram usage is 38% max. Gpe process uses most resources during slowdowns (24% cpu, 27.7% ram). ERRATA CORRIGE I double-checked, rebooting and connecting the Freerunner to my pc: during slowdowns QPE process (sorry, I wrote Gpe before) takes about 80% of cpu! Is it regular? I hope not... Kind regards, Ugo Raffaele Piemontese ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko lagging after 2nd boot - was: qtmoko v28
On Wednesday 27 October 2010 13:56:36 Ugo Raffaele Piemontese wrote: ERRATA CORRIGE I double-checked, rebooting and connecting the Freerunner to my pc: during slowdowns QPE process (sorry, I wrote Gpe before) takes about 80% of cpu! Is it regular? I hope not... No it looks like the problem, but hard to tell what is happening. One possibility is gdb and break the qpe process and see something from stacktrace, or maybe running strace could also tell what is happening. Anyway it's might be not easy :-( Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FoxtrotGPS 1.0.0 now available
thx! keep on! 2010/10/27 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:37:54 -0400 Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com (JJR) wrote: Hi everybody, I'm pleased to announce the release of FoxtrotGPS 1.0.0, the first stable release since branching from tangoGPS; tarballs (with detached GnuPG signatures) are available at http://www.foxtrotgps.org/releases/. thank you for continuous work on this great project! Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
how to use JTAG on debug board ?
Hi OM developers, I'd like to use the OM debug board v3 for JTAG connection to my GTA02. I found http://people.openmoko.org/werner/openocd.cfg on http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000708.html but this file does not work for any openocd release version I was able to find (I tried 0.1.0, 0.2.0, 0.3.1, 0.4.0 and git head). up to version 0.3.1 it only has this error invalid command name daemon_startup_attach and many warnings about lots of deprecated commands. even the oldest availabe version 0.1.0 already complains about jtag_speed: jtag_speed: 8 OLD SYNTAX: DEPRECATED - translating to new syntax which does not work anymore at all in 0.4.0 and newer... where can I find/get an openocd.cfg file for the GTA02 for a recent version of openocd ? thanks for any pointers how to get started with the debug board these days!! Harald -- I hope to die ___ _ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word., 0--,|/OOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen._/ / /OOO\ \ \/OOO\ \ O|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ koe...@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de ^ ^ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Hello, Attempting resend of failed message after subscribing to list... Rgds Eric On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:33 PM, eric ehlers wrote: Hello, Was just pointed to this project by a colleague after complaining about the hassles of rooting and jailbreaking my smartphone... Let me ask two questions to everybody: * How long could you be willing to wait for it to really become available? Until the demise of the A7++ that I will order as soon as they are back in stock... * How much would you think you could afford to pay for such a board? Others have talked about a price of EUR 500 and I would be happy to part with that amount for a next gen open smart phone. Personally, I am in favour of high-end high-quality design (like the iPhone) even if it costs money. +1. Regards, Eric ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: qtmoko lagging after 2nd boot - was: qtmoko v28
Thank you everyone for your tips! Here you are some logs taken via ssh during a slowdown: 1 (see attachments) - dmesg output 2 (see attachments) - interrupts output (only s3c24xx-adc is growing fast) - time frame between them: 1 second 3 - top screenshot: http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2848/topmt.png Kind regards, Ugo Raffaele Piemontese [0.00] Linux version 2.6.34.2-v28 (ra...@rp-skunk) (gcc version 4.3.2 (Debian 4.3.2-1.1) ) #2 Thu Oct 21 21:50:20 CEST 2010 [0.00] CPU: ARM920T [41129200] revision 0 (ARMv4T), cr=c0007177 [0.00] CPU: VIVT data cache, VIVT instruction cache [0.00] Machine: GTA02 [0.00] Memory policy: ECC disabled, Data cache writeback [0.00] On node 0 totalpages: 32768 [0.00] free_area_init_node: node 0, pgdat c04068c0, node_mem_map c045b000 [0.00] Normal zone: 256 pages used for memmap [0.00] Normal zone: 0 pages reserved [0.00] Normal zone: 32512 pages, LIFO batch:7 [0.00] CPU S3C2442B (id 0x32440aab) [0.00] S3C24XX Clocks, Copyright 2004 Simtec Electronics [0.00] S3C244X: core 400.000 MHz, memory 100.000 MHz, peripheral 50.000 MHz [0.00] CLOCK: Slow mode (1.500 MHz), fast, MPLL on, UPLL on [0.00] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on. Total pages: 32512 [0.00] Kernel command line: loglevel=4 console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 init=/sbin/init ro mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(qi),0x0004(depr-ub-env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(depr),0x0004(identity-ext2),0x0f6a(rootfs) g_ether.dev_addr=00:1F:11:01:44:44 g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11:01:44:45 rootfstype=ubifs ubi.mtd=6,2048 root=ubi0:om-gta02-rootfs [0.00] PID hash table entries: 512 (order: -1, 2048 bytes) [0.00] Dentry cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) [0.00] Inode-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) [0.00] Memory: 128MB = 128MB total [0.00] Memory: 125492k/125492k available, 5580k reserved, 0K highmem [0.00] Virtual kernel memory layout: [0.00] vector : 0x - 0x1000 ( 4 kB) [0.00] fixmap : 0xfff0 - 0xfffe ( 896 kB) [0.00] DMA : 0xffc0 - 0xffe0 ( 2 MB) [0.00] vmalloc : 0xc880 - 0xe000 ( 376 MB) [0.00] lowmem : 0xc000 - 0xc800 ( 128 MB) [0.00] modules : 0xbf00 - 0xc000 ( 16 MB) [0.00] .init : 0xc0008000 - 0xc0029000 ( 132 kB) [0.00] .text : 0xc0029000 - 0xc03df000 (3800 kB) [0.00] .data : 0xc03e - 0xc0406ec0 ( 156 kB) [0.00] Hierarchical RCU implementation. [0.00] NR_IRQS:134 [0.00] irq: clearing pending ext status 000912f0 [0.00] irq: clearing pending ext status 000900d0 [0.00] irq: clearing subpending status 0180 [0.00] irq: clearing subpending status 0080 [0.00] timer tcon=, tcnt a2c1, tcfg 0200,, usec 1eb8 [0.00] Console: colour dummy device 80x30 [0.00] console [tty0] enabled [0.00] console [ttySAC2] enabled [0.00] Calibrating delay loop... 199.47 BogoMIPS (lpj=498688) [0.095000] Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 [0.095000] CPU: Testing write buffer coherency: ok [0.095000] devtmpfs: initialized [0.10] regulator: core version 0.5 [0.105000] NET: Registered protocol family 16 [0.12] S3C Power Management, Copyright 2004 Simtec Electronics [0.14] S3C2442: Initialising architecture [0.14] S3C24XX DMA Driver, Copyright 2003-2006 Simtec Electronics [0.14] DMA channel 0 at c8808000, irq 33 [0.14] DMA channel 1 at c8808040, irq 34 [0.14] DMA channel 2 at c8808080, irq 35 [0.14] DMA channel 3 at c88080c0, irq 36 [0.14] S3C244X: Clock Support, DVS off [0.145000] s3c-adc s3c24xx-adc: attached adc driver [0.145000] s3c24xx-pwm s3c24xx-pwm.0: tin at 2500, tdiv at 2500, tin=divclk, base 0 [0.145000] s3c24xx-pwm s3c24xx-pwm.1: tin at 2500, tdiv at 2500, tin=divclk, base 8 [0.145000] s3c24xx-pwm s3c24xx-pwm.2: tin at 833, tdiv at 833, tin=divclk, base 12 [0.145000] s3c24xx-pwm s3c24xx-pwm.3: tin at 833, tdiv at 833, tin=divclk, base 16 [0.22] bio: create slab bio-0 at 0 [0.225000] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs [0.225000] usbcore: registered new interface driver hub [0.23] usbcore: registered new device driver usb [0.23] s3c-i2c s3c2440-i2c: slave address 0x10 [0.23] s3c-i2c s3c2440-i2c: bus frequency set to 97 KHz [0.255000] pcf50633 0-0073: Probed device version 19 variant 132 [0.305000] wake enabled for irq 53 [0.36] regulator: auto: 3300 mV normal [0.37] regulator: down1: 1300 -- 1600 mV at 1300 mV normal [0.40]
Re: Anyone still have the case CAD files?
Try FreeCAD Its also able to open this format. If you convert it to stl, you can print it with a RepRap. Mine will soon be done *yeeha* best regards leviathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
