Re: [qtmoko] Strange display on v28 with jitterless kernel
[cut] Hm, this seem more general problem with ts driver, not really related to jitterless patch - if you suspend while holding ts, ts driver seem hang. hmm, seems that I am unable to suspend v28 while holding TS down. Any hint how to reproduce? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko on Wikipedia
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 10:27 +0200, Eric Ehlers wrote: Hello, I added a new section (2.5) to the Openmoko page on wikipedia in an attempt to reflect the latest status of the project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko I also think that the history is a bit short, but I don't know enough to complete it. For instance, I think it was the first commercial free phone. but I don't know when exactly the gta01 and gta02 were commercialized. I also wonder if it's the first commercial phone(or not) that permitted the installation of native applications(I wonder if the app store for the iphone came before or after the openmoko) It would be nice to have more info, because else it would be forgetten... Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone still have the case CAD files?
On Thursday 28 October 2010, David Lanzendörfer wrote: Try FreeCAD Its also able to open this format. The freecad ebuild in the gentoo science overlay has an unresolvable dependency at the moment. Is it significantly better than brl-cad? I'll answer this one myself. FreeCAD does a much better job on importing both STEP and IGES than brl-cad. It's possible I've missed just the right combination of switches on one of the brl-cad imports, but with freecad it just works. I may need to find some more memory though - 1G isn't really enough to handle the biggest files with either of them. The freecad gui is also significantly more modern. Whether that makes it more productive is an open question, but it's certainly quicker for looking at models. I'm using gentoo too. Seems the install paths do not fit together well, but with (temporary) hack on line 5 of following steps you can make it build. I'm using KDE4.5.2 autounmask sci-misc/freecad-0.9.2646 emerge =media-libs/coin-3.1.3-r1 emerge =media-libs/SoQt-1.5.0-r1 emerge =sci-libs/opencascade-6.3-r1 sudo ln -s /usr/include/coin/Inventor/ /usr/include/ emerge =sci-misc/freecad-0.9.2646 I'm surprised that works - freecad-0.9.2646 has a dependency on =media- libs/coin-3.1.2 unless you also modified the ebuild. I ended up using the ebuild for 0.10.3025 attached to this bug, and it's working fine now. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312063 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone still have the case CAD files?
Hi I'm surprised that works - freecad-0.9.2646 has a dependency on =media- libs/coin-3.1.2 unless you also modified the ebuild. I ended up using the ebuild for 0.10.3025 attached to this bug, and it's working fine now. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312063 Hmm. I did a layman -S and emerge --sync, did what I wrote and it worked... Anyway. I'm glad, that FreeCAD works for you as well ^^ best regards leviathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko on Wikipedia
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 10:27 +0200, Eric Ehlers wrote: Hello, I added a new section (2.5) to the Openmoko page on wikipedia in an attempt to reflect the latest status of the project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko I also think that the history is a bit short, but I don't know enough to complete it. For instance, I think it was the first commercial free phone. but I don't know when exactly the gta01 and gta02 were commercialized. I also wonder if it's the first commercial phone(or not) that permitted the installation of native applications(I wonder if the app store for the iphone came before or after the openmoko) It would be nice to have more info, because else it would be forgetten... HI Denis We publicly announced the Neo 1973 on November 7th, 2006 at the Open Source in Mobile conference. We expected to ship before the end of the year, but experienced serious delays getting it into production. The first units were shipped to developers in February of 2007. With our online sales starting in July 2007. This was a limited run and we sold out in a few days. Wikipedia says that Apple announced their iPhone on January 9, 2007. And starting selling on June 29, 2007. Here's an article written shortly after our announcement: http://gizmodo.com/229243/openmoko-smartphone-did-they-have-a-time-machine-or-what Hope that helps. And thanks for documenting this! Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko on Wikipedia
On Friday 29 October 2010, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 10:27 +0200, Eric Ehlers wrote: Hello, I added a new section (2.5) to the Openmoko page on wikipedia in an attempt to reflect the latest status of the project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko I also think that the history is a bit short, but I don't know enough to complete it. For instance, I think it was the first commercial free phone. but I don't know when exactly the gta01 and gta02 were commercialized. That should be in the list archives. GTA02 was released start of July 2008, but I don't remember the exact date. I also wonder if it's the first commercial phone(or not) that permitted the installation of native applications(I wonder if the app store for the iphone came before or after the openmoko) It missed that one by a long way. WinCE/WinMo handsets had native applications from the start. They were possible with Symbian too, but less common. It would be nice to have more info, because else it would be forgetten... Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko on Wikipedia
В Птн, 29/10/2010 в 11:59 +0100, Al Johnson пишет: I also wonder if it's the first commercial phone(or not) that permitted the installation of native applications(I wonder if the app store for the iphone came before or after the openmoko) It missed that one by a long way. WinCE/WinMo handsets had native applications from the start. They were possible with Symbian too, but less common. I don't know about WinCE/WinMo, but once somewhere in 2006 i tried to build small app for my former Symbian phone... Ok, using gcc.exe and make.exe on Linux is special fun. But it turned out that you can use full abilities of your device until you get developer sertificate and/or sign your application. This is done to protect users from malware, but in the end seem you just can't just write big set of apps for your phone. So, vendor controlled which application you can install and which can't. In case of uncontrolled environment you'll just be able to copy commecial apps from root to other phone. Here is example how to 'sign' app for particular phone: http://www.gosymbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=757 http://www.simplysymbian.com/2007/12/18/how-to-symbian-sign-your-freeware-applications-so-you-can-install-stuff-like-rotateme/ My expierence with Symbian were one of reasons to buy Freerunner. Here i can run and compile anything without any troubles. Gennady ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qmoko v28 with jitterless kernel
After a long search I finally managed to connect freebsd and qtmoko v28.
The problem was in the different VendorID and productID
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=USB_Product_IDsoldid=81683).
It was necessary to add a new entry in /etc/devd.con to include the new IDs:
attach 100 {
device-name ugen[0-9]+;
match vendor 0x0525;
match product 0xa4a2;
action perl /usr/local/etc/neo_if.pl /dev/$device-name;
};
I'm going to add it to the wiki.
Thanks for your support.
Giacomo
PS I'd like to say thanks to Paul Kelly, thank you very much for your hints!
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Backup batteries installed
Hello, I finished installing capacitors as replacements for the dead backup batteries in my Freerunners today at lunch. They seem to be working, though I've only tried removing the main battery for under a minute so far. Someone on the GTA-02-core list said a 220uf capacitor would power the RTC for 2 minutes. If that is correct, the .07f caps I used should work for about 10 hours. The parts I got from digikey weren't an exact fit, but I was able to make them work. Be sure to wear safety glasses if you try this, I had one of the old batteries explode when I was removing it. Pictures: http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/index.php?level=albumid=20 Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] Strange display on v28 with jitterless kernel
Hi, Vinzenz, Ok, i updated jitterless patch, now it should handle rotation/qvga properly and also fix this issue. Can you please check if following kernel really fixes issue: http://bsdmn.com/openmoko/jitterless/modules-b2.tar.gz http://bsdmn.com/openmoko/jitterless/uImage-b2.bin To test, 0.boot qtmoko 1.copy modules to / on FR 2.on neo - cd /;tar xzvf modules-b2.tar.gz 3.depmod -a 2.6.34b2-v28 4.poweroff 5.boot to u-boot 6.do dfu-util -a kernel -D uImage-b2.bin 7.check it This kernel is from v29, with only change is ts issue, so you may stick to it afterwards and help testing HZ100 kernel. It works well here so far, but who knows. Gennady В Птн, 29/10/2010 в 10:43 +0200, Vinzenz Hersche пишет: Mh, i'm not able to suspend my openmoko while use the ts. But if i do the suspend-action and use the ts while it's go to suspend, this effect cames, you're right :) Yes, it was always after wake up from suspend. But i didn't know that the using of ts while suspending do this effect, so it was a random thing for me. Because of the jitterless-kernel: i just write this because i just used my openmoko since v28 with this kernel. It's nice if this isn't the problem.. Many thanks for the patch! :) --- Gennady schrieb am Donnerstag 28 Oktober 2010: В Чтв, 28/10/2010 в 12:35 +0200, Vinzenz Hersche пишет: Hello all, i've got a strange problem which is descriped here: http://death- head.ch/blog/2010/10/strange-effects-on-my-openmoko-display-with-qtmoko-v28- and-jitterless-kernel/ (with video) Hm, this should not happen. This is just slow refresh, which means that glamo remain in slowed down state. But problem seem that you touchscreen somehow hang, so ts driver can't restore normal refresh rate. Hm, this may happen if suspend happens while you holding touchscreen. Let me try YES. So. Ops, qtmoko has not xrandr. The problem seems to came up randomly. So, did you suspend just before this issue? I know how to fix suspend and rotation and will prepare patch soon. Gennady ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Yocto for Openmoko?
Just saw the announcement on lwn.net for the Yocto Project. This aims to create a standard build system for embedded systems. Sounds like it might be an interesting way to build for the FreeRunner. Of course it also sound like 'yet-another-build-system' tool. Just wanted to high-lite this to the various people building various distros and hear their feedback on what this might, or might not offer for simplifying builds for the FreeRunner. Cheers, and let the flames ignite (-= John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko on Wikipedia
This is done to protect users from malware, Please don't spread such misinformation. It is done to keep control of the device away from the user. I.e. it's only correct if you define malware as program that the company doesn't like, whereas I think it's usually understood as program which does things that the end-user doesn't like. Many pre-installed software on today's popular devices are actually malware (tho only discerning users realize it). Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
