No plans for fennec on the FR

2010-12-03 Thread Delian
Seems there's no hope of seeing a native FR version of fennec right now. [0]
Well, we already have nice browsers so,  it's not a real big problem (IMHO).
:P

[0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450929#c4

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Re: No plans for fennec on the FR

2010-12-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/12/3 Delian deli...@gmail.com:
 Seems there's no hope of seeing a native FR version of fennec right now. [0]
 Well, we already have nice browsers so,  it's not a real big problem (IMHO).
 :P
 [0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450929#c4

Well, Mozilla is not very famous of having much interest themselves in
building end-user binaries for Linux platforms. Distributions do that
for them, and similarly if Fennec will get mature at some point to the
point it's feasible to package it into distributions, we'll get them
through distributions that support FreeRunner's ARMv4, like Debian.

-Timo

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Re: No plans for fennec on the FR

2010-12-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 13:17, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/12/3 Delian deli...@gmail.com:
 Seems there's no hope of seeing a native FR version of fennec right now. [0]
 Well, we already have nice browsers so,  it's not a real big problem (IMHO).
 :P
 [0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450929#c4

 Well, Mozilla is not very famous of having much interest themselves in
 building end-user binaries for Linux platforms. Distributions do that
 for them, and similarly if Fennec will get mature at some point to the
 point it's feasible to package it into distributions, we'll get them
 through distributions that support FreeRunner's ARMv4, like Debian.

Please read the comments in the bug report.
The issue is not the lack of builds for armv4, the issue is that the
code seems to have armv4 incompatible assembly code, so you can't
just build it for armv4.

Anyway, I don't think mozilla would object to a 3rd party patch that
implements said code (if it indeed exists, haven't looked into it yet)
in a reasonable way for armv4 aditionally. Otherwise distributions
could patch their sources to provide a package if someone comes up
with that patch.

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Re: No plans for fennec on the FR

2010-12-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 03 December 2010, Thomas Gstädtner wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 13:17, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote:
  2010/12/3 Delian deli...@gmail.com:
  Seems there's no hope of seeing a native FR version of fennec right now.
  [0] Well, we already have nice browsers so,  it's not a real big
  problem (IMHO).
  
  :P
  
  [0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450929#c4
  
  Well, Mozilla is not very famous of having much interest themselves in
  building end-user binaries for Linux platforms. Distributions do that
  for them, and similarly if Fennec will get mature at some point to the
  point it's feasible to package it into distributions, we'll get them
  through distributions that support FreeRunner's ARMv4, like Debian.
 
 Please read the comments in the bug report.
 The issue is not the lack of builds for armv4, the issue is that the
 code seems to have armv4 incompatible assembly code, so you can't
 just build it for armv4.
 
 Anyway, I don't think mozilla would object to a 3rd party patch that
 implements said code (if it indeed exists, haven't looked into it yet)
 in a reasonable way for armv4 aditionally. Otherwise distributions
 could patch their sources to provide a package if someone comes up
 with that patch.

I doubt they'd accept a patch. Support for old ARM architectures was actively 
dropped because it was causing a lot of problems while giving support for only 
a few extra devices, and even then those devices were too slow to get decent 
performance out of fennec.

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Re: No plans for fennec on the FR

2010-12-03 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Thomas Gstädtner tho...@gstaedtner.net writes:
 Please read the comments in the bug report.
 The issue is not the lack of builds for armv4, the issue is that the
 code seems to have armv4 incompatible assembly code, so you can't
 just build it for armv4.

The comment in the bug report does not identify this code. I was
unable to find it. Where is it?


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2010-12-03 Thread Shidan Gouran
Hello, I am looking for Openmoko hardware hackers from Toronto, Canada who
have a great handle on VHDL, understand base-bands well and who
have contributed specifically to the Openmoko project.

If you fit this bill and looking for an interesting paid project to work on,
we might have an opportunity for you.


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