Re: [debian] howto: rebuilding sgt-puzzles for the FR
On 20 December 2010 23:25, EdorFaus edorf...@xepher.net wrote: On 12/19/2010 06:29 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: I meant a command line option that a user could pass so that he would not need to recompile.. Ah. That's... technically possible, I *think*, but would be quite a bit of work for (IMHO) very little gain, as most people don't need access to both variants on the same device, and if they do, that can be solved more easily by having them both installed in seperate locations. I don't quite agree that the gain would be very little. For me, though, it is not a priority to do this; the solution of rebuilding the package is good enough (especially with the CFLAGS=... debian/rules binary invocation) for the bottlenecks in my Debian usage to move elsewhere, and hence I'm now shifting focus to other things. Really, for the FR (and similar devices), the better solution for what I guess you're really after (ease of use for non-techies) would be to make this the default in the binary package, or to provide an alternate binary package with this configuration. I don't know, but I would guess that there may be armel devices on which the current standard build is just fine. So I'm not sure it would work for armel to imply switching on those #defines. Surely the optimal solution would be runtime auto-detection? Does udev provide sufficient information to infer that there is a touchscreen and no keyboard? Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] howto: rebuilding sgt-puzzles for the FR
On 19 December 2010 14:28, EdorFaus edorf...@xepher.net wrote: On 12/17/2010 12:08 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: For people who like Simon Tatham's puzzle collection... On my SHR-T, for a long time I've used Frode Austvik's sgt-puzzles Thank you! You just made me go back to look at this code again. Thank you for writing those patches! When I first started doing this package, I fully intended to keep maintaining it - but then several things conspired against it, which has caused it to be unmaintained (by me at least) for a year now... That doesn't seem to have harmed anything. The .ipk always installs cleanly for me, and the code is upstream. Actually, most of them have been included upstream, which is probably where Debian got them from... Absolutely, yes, that's what I meant. Sorry for not being clear about it. I've still got a couple left though... and made a new one just now... I should probably try to push those upstream as well. That's interesting, what do they do? CFLAGS=-D_WIN32_WCE debian/rules binary Nice, much better than editing! For the record, have you actually tried this and checked it works, or is it just a suggestion? Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] howto: rebuilding sgt-puzzles for the FR
Neil Jerram neiljer...@gmail.com writes: Surely the optimal solution would be runtime auto-detection? Does udev provide sufficient information to infer that there is a touchscreen and no keyboard? udev does not know what X server your sgt-puzzles is connected to. It's probably better to ask X about the input devices? -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
The epoch is upon me.
The last time my FreeRunner's battery died, the clock reset to epoch. Now, it no longer keeps time during suspend either. I'm guessing this means the clock battery has finally died. Someone recently commented that they replaced their battery with a pair of super caps. I just wanted to confirm my diagnosis before I take a soldering iron to my phone. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The epoch is upon me.
Jon, I'm don't know how you can be sure the clock battery is to blame, but I just wanted to mention that I replaced the battery with a single supercap. The pair of supercaps was because I have two freerunners. Ben On 12/21/2010 07:55 AM, Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) wrote: The last time my FreeRunner's battery died, the clock reset to epoch. Now, it no longer keeps time during suspend either. I'm guessing this means the clock battery has finally died. Someone recently commented that they replaced their battery with a pair of super caps. I just wanted to confirm my diagnosis before I take a soldering iron to my phone. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: The epoch is upon me.
OK. I was a little confused about the mention of 2 super caps at the time. That make more sense. I'll have to check for an American source and get one. I've got some rusty soldering skills I can brush up before I attack my phone. Cheers, John Gay From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Deering Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:14 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: The epoch is upon me. Jon, I'm don't know how you can be sure the clock battery is to blame, but I just wanted to mention that I replaced the battery with a single supercap. The pair of supercaps was because I have two freerunners. Ben On 12/21/2010 07:55 AM, Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) wrote: The last time my FreeRunner's battery died, the clock reset to epoch. Now, it no longer keeps time during suspend either. I'm guessing this means the clock battery has finally died. Someone recently commented that they replaced their battery with a pair of super caps. I just wanted to confirm my diagnosis before I take a soldering iron to my phone. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] howto: rebuilding sgt-puzzles for the FR
On 21 December 2010 12:33, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Neil Jerram neiljer...@gmail.com writes: Surely the optimal solution would be runtime auto-detection? Does udev provide sufficient information to infer that there is a touchscreen and no keyboard? udev does not know what X server your sgt-puzzles is connected to. It's probably better to ask X about the input devices? Ah yes, of course, good point. So assuming the X API is rich enough to provide that information, I'd say that's the ideal solution. Of course it would also be possible to provide a command line option to override the auto-detection. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Dear all, we are happy that we can make an announcement to the Free and Open Hardware Community, right in time for X-mas and New Year: We have finally tested, understood and patched the bugs of the first GTA04 sample board (a.k.a. GTA04A2) and have successfully started U-Boot. We can access the important peripherals like display, touch screen, and MMC card. So we are very confident that the already scheduled redesign (GTA04A3) will work right from the beginning and boot Linux. This looks like the start of the aera of new Openmoko devices. -- what it is -- For those who have not followed or are new to this project, the GTA04 is a OMAP3 based Smartphone Platform/Module [1] that fits as a motherboard replacement into a Openmoko Neo1973 or Freerunner case [2]. It is more or less the idea to squeeze a BeagleBoard into a handheld and was started by connecting a Openmoko Display to a BeagleBoard [3]. It will finally come with UMTS (HSPA), GPS, WLAN, Bluetooth, Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Altimeter, Compass, FM and an optional camera. An expansion B2B-connector allows to base a custom design on this module. A demo video of the GTA04A2 controlling the display and blinking the illuminated buttons is here [4]. A brief project description is [5]. Please excuse the low quality of the pictures, since our small team has so far focussed on hardware and software. The difference to off-the-shelf smartphones is that it will be well documented (CC-BY-SA) and schematics will be included in the spirit of the original Openmoko devices so that you can access all the nice peripherals we have designed into it. And through the expansion connectors you can also use it as a module in your design. And, it is a community project. Everyone is welcome to contribute. The driving force behind this project is Golden Delicious Computers (www.goldelico.com), a specialist for embedded hard-, firm- and software development located in Oberhaching near Munich, Bavaria, Germany. -- next steps -- A closed and safe process would be that we silently redesign the board (i.e. develop a GTA04A3), order some sample boards and test them. If everything finally works, we would order components and sit there and wait for them to arrive. Then, we would announce generaly availability in big ads in NYT and FAZ. In this mode, you may deduce, that you will not be able to get a GTA04 earlier than Summer next year if we don't run out of money before. -- early adopter program -- Therefore, we have thought hat we offer an early adoper program to the benefit of everybody. The idea is that you can order a GTA04A3 immediately. At a fixed price (280 EUR). And we take the risk that prices of components will change. You only take the risk that we may need more time to get the components and have to spin another PCB. Using your money, we will order the core components with a long lead time (OMAP, Memory, UMTS module) as soon as possible - and early enough before the GTA04A3 design is finished. This makes sure that we have enough components for the first batch to be produced. And we will not spend the money for anything else so that you could even visit us to see your chips... But please don't touch. Once, the GTA04A3 boards arrive, we will test some of them and if everything looks ok, we will produce your early adopter devices. Only in the case that the A3 board has another serious flaw, we will have to design a GTA04A4 board first. This all speeds up the process dramatically so that we currently estimate delivery of the first units by March 2011. The price has been set very low so that it just covers component and production cost at a reduced feature set (there are not all peripherals installed but UMTS and GPS will be). It might be possible to retrofit some of them. Please note that it does *not* include the LCD module, case and battery, because it is a motherboard-replacement to existing Openmoko units (Freerunner and Neo1973). And, we can't specify yet which version of the OMAP3 we will get (600/720/1000 MHz) and how big the RAM/NAND flash will be. But expect something similar to the BeagleBoard. Please note that we also have chosen to switch from a GTM501 UMTS module to a GTM601 which has even better performance (HSPA+). -- how to participate -- Here is the link to the EAP offer with more detailed conditions (there are some restrictions): http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04-Early-Adopter You can also support us by purchasing a Openmoko Beagle Hybrid development tool to extend your existing Beagle Boad or by donations. The git repositories and binary downloads of our U-Boot and Kernel can be reached through [6]. And, come to FOSDEM 2011 to see and touch a GTA04 and discuss with us about this new gadget. We wish you all merry christmas and a happy new year. -- links -- [1]: http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/DSC00710.jpg [2]: http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/DSC00708.jpg [3]:
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Wow. This looks great! I am excited. :-) Thank you very much for your efforts to get the community this far. Best, Toby - Toby D. Young Assistant Professor Institute of Fundamental Technological Problems Polish Academy of Sciences ul Adolfa Pawinskiego 5b 02-106 Warsaw Poland www: http://www.ippt.gov.pl/~tyoung skype: stenografia On Tue, 21 Dec 2010, Dr.H.Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Dear all, we are happy that we can make an announcement to the Free and Open Hardware Community, right in time for X-mas and New Year: We have finally tested, understood and patched the bugs of the first GTA04 sample board (a.k.a. GTA04A2) and have successfully started U-Boot. We can access the important peripherals like display, touch screen, and MMC card. So we are very confident that the already scheduled redesign (GTA04A3) will work right from the beginning and boot Linux. This looks like the start of the aera of new Openmoko devices. -- what it is -- For those who have not followed or are new to this project, the GTA04 is a OMAP3 based Smartphone Platform/Module [1] that fits as a motherboard replacement into a Openmoko Neo1973 or Freerunner case [2]. It is more or less the idea to squeeze a BeagleBoard into a handheld and was started by connecting a Openmoko Display to a BeagleBoard [3]. It will finally come with UMTS (HSPA), GPS, WLAN, Bluetooth, Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Altimeter, Compass, FM and an optional camera. An expansion B2B-connector allows to base a custom design on this module. A demo video of the GTA04A2 controlling the display and blinking the illuminated buttons is here [4]. A brief project description is [5]. Please excuse the low quality of the pictures, since our small team has so far focussed on hardware and software. The difference to off-the-shelf smartphones is that it will be well documented (CC-BY-SA) and schematics will be included in the spirit of the original Openmoko devices so that you can access all the nice peripherals we have designed into it. And through the expansion connectors you can also use it as a module in your design. And, it is a community project. Everyone is welcome to contribute. The driving force behind this project is Golden Delicious Computers (www.goldelico.com), a specialist for embedded hard-, firm- and software development located in Oberhaching near Munich, Bavaria, Germany. -- next steps -- A closed and safe process would be that we silently redesign the board (i.e. develop a GTA04A3), order some sample boards and test them. If everything finally works, we would order components and sit there and wait for them to arrive. Then, we would announce generaly availability in big ads in NYT and FAZ. In this mode, you may deduce, that you will not be able to get a GTA04 earlier than Summer next year if we don't run out of money before. -- early adopter program -- Therefore, we have thought hat we offer an early adoper program to the benefit of everybody. The idea is that you can order a GTA04A3 immediately. At a fixed price (280 EUR). And we take the risk that prices of components will change. You only take the risk that we may need more time to get the components and have to spin another PCB. Using your money, we will order the core components with a long lead time (OMAP, Memory, UMTS module) as soon as possible - and early enough before the GTA04A3 design is finished. This makes sure that we have enough components for the first batch to be produced. And we will not spend the money for anything else so that you could even visit us to see your chips... But please don't touch. Once, the GTA04A3 boards arrive, we will test some of them and if everything looks ok, we will produce your early adopter devices. Only in the case that the A3 board has another serious flaw, we will have to design a GTA04A4 board first. This all speeds up the process dramatically so that we currently estimate delivery of the first units by March 2011. The price has been set very low so that it just covers component and production cost at a reduced feature set (there are not all peripherals installed but UMTS and GPS will be). It might be possible to retrofit some of them. Please note that it does *not* include the LCD module, case and battery, because it is a motherboard-replacement to existing Openmoko units (Freerunner and Neo1973). And, we can't specify yet which version of the OMAP3 we will get (600/720/1000 MHz) and how big the RAM/NAND flash will be. But expect something similar to the BeagleBoard. Please note that we also have chosen to switch from a GTM501 UMTS module to a GTM601 which has even better performance (HSPA+). -- how to participate -- Here is the link to the EAP offer with more detailed conditions (there are some restrictions): http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04-Early-Adopter You can also support us by purchasing a
RE: The epoch is upon me.
Hi, John I replaced with cap too. It's easy to extract one from some old phone. Result is very good then you remove main battery. BUT The last time my FreeRunner's battery died, the clock reset to epoch. Now, it no longer keeps time during suspend either. I'm guessing this means the clock battery has finally died. In suspend clock is powered by main battery not backup, as PMU remain in Active state. In fact in suspend backup battery is _charging_. So, i think you have some software trouble, probably you setting clock somehow in wrong way (they not saved to hw clock). Gennady. В Втр, 21/12/2010 в 08:50 -0500, Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) пишет: OK. I was a little confused about the mention of 2 super caps at the time. That make more sense. I'll have to check for an American source and get one. I've got some rusty soldering skills I can brush up before I attack my phone. Cheers, John Gay __ From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Deering Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:14 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: The epoch is upon me. Jon, I'm don't know how you can be sure the clock battery is to blame, but I just wanted to mention that I replaced the battery with a single supercap. The pair of supercaps was because I have two freerunners. Ben On 12/21/2010 07:55 AM, Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) wrote: The last time my FreeRunner's battery died, the clock reset to epoch. Now, it no longer keeps time during suspend either. I'm guessing this means the clock battery has finally died. Someone recently commented that they replaced their battery with a pair of super caps. I just wanted to confirm my diagnosis before I take a soldering iron to my phone. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
FWIW, let me state that I fully support this project and will do my share to add FSO support once the necessary dependencies (hardware verification, kernel drivers) have been solved. This project is keeping the OM-spirit alive! Best regards, :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Great news! I will definitely buy one of those. Not just becouse I have a dead-by-drown FR collecting dust (wich case an lcd screen I can reuse), but also 'couse the FR is the best phone I have ever, I want to support opendevices development and this is the best way I can thank all FR users and developers effort have made so far. Cheers! Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - El 21/12/10 09:33, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller escribió: Dear all, we are happy that we can make an announcement to the Free and Open Hardware Community, right in time for X-mas and New Year: We have finally tested, understood and patched the bugs of the first GTA04 sample board (a.k.a. GTA04A2) and have successfully started U-Boot. We can access the important peripherals like display, touch screen, and MMC card. So we are very confident that the already scheduled redesign (GTA04A3) will work right from the beginning and boot Linux. This looks like the start of the aera of new Openmoko devices. -- what it is -- For those who have not followed or are new to this project, the GTA04 is a OMAP3 based Smartphone Platform/Module [1] that fits as a motherboard replacement into a Openmoko Neo1973 or Freerunner case [2]. It is more or less the idea to squeeze a BeagleBoard into a handheld and was started by connecting a Openmoko Display to a BeagleBoard [3]. It will finally come with UMTS (HSPA), GPS, WLAN, Bluetooth, Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Altimeter, Compass, FM and an optional camera. An expansion B2B-connector allows to base a custom design on this module. A demo video of the GTA04A2 controlling the display and blinking the illuminated buttons is here [4]. A brief project description is [5]. Please excuse the low quality of the pictures, since our small team has so far focussed on hardware and software. The difference to off-the-shelf smartphones is that it will be well documented (CC-BY-SA) and schematics will be included in the spirit of the original Openmoko devices so that you can access all the nice peripherals we have designed into it. And through the expansion connectors you can also use it as a module in your design. And, it is a community project. Everyone is welcome to contribute. The driving force behind this project is Golden Delicious Computers (www.goldelico.com), a specialist for embedded hard-, firm- and software development located in Oberhaching near Munich, Bavaria, Germany. -- next steps -- A closed and safe process would be that we silently redesign the board (i.e. develop a GTA04A3), order some sample boards and test them. If everything finally works, we would order components and sit there and wait for them to arrive. Then, we would announce generaly availability in big ads in NYT and FAZ. In this mode, you may deduce, that you will not be able to get a GTA04 earlier than Summer next year if we don't run out of money before. -- early adopter program -- Therefore, we have thought hat we offer an early adoper program to the benefit of everybody. The idea is that you can order a GTA04A3 immediately. At a fixed price (280 EUR). And we take the risk that prices of components will change. You only take the risk that we may need more time to get the components and have to spin another PCB. Using your money, we will order the core components with a long lead time (OMAP, Memory, UMTS module) as soon as possible - and early enough before the GTA04A3 design is finished. This makes sure that we have enough components for the first batch to be produced. And we will not spend the money for anything else so that you could even visit us to see your chips... But please don't touch. Once, the GTA04A3 boards arrive, we will test some of them and if everything looks ok, we will produce your early adopter devices. Only in the case that the A3 board has another serious flaw, we will have to design a GTA04A4 board first. This all speeds up the process dramatically so that we currently estimate delivery of the first units by March 2011. The price has been set very low so that it just covers component and production cost at a reduced feature set (there are not all peripherals installed but UMTS and GPS will be). It might be possible to retrofit some of them. Please note that it does *not* include the LCD module, case and battery, because it is a motherboard-replacement to existing Openmoko units (Freerunner and Neo1973). And, we can't specify yet which version of the OMAP3 we will get (600/720/1000 MHz) and how big the RAM/NAND flash will be. But expect something similar to the BeagleBoard. Please note that we also have chosen to switch from a GTM501 UMTS module to a GTM601 which has even better performance (HSPA+). -- how to participate -- Here is the link to the EAP offer with more detailed conditions (there are some restrictions):
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
I would have been very glade to support this version too. but I decided to buy a mass market phone to support multiport of FSO just before the GTA04 began to be very promising.. I am a bit sad :/ but I will be there to support GTA05or 06 for sure!! anyway cheers! and Happy Holidays! best regards, Sylvain (aka garthps) 2010/12/21 Kosa k...@piradio.org Great news! I will definitely buy one of those. Not just becouse I have a dead-by-drown FR collecting dust (wich case an lcd screen I can reuse), but also 'couse the FR is the best phone I have ever, I want to support opendevices development and this is the best way I can thank all FR users and developers effort have made so far. Cheers! Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - El 21/12/10 09:33, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller escribió: Dear all, we are happy that we can make an announcement to the Free and Open Hardware Community, right in time for X-mas and New Year: We have finally tested, understood and patched the bugs of the first GTA04 sample board (a.k.a. GTA04A2) and have successfully started U-Boot. We can access the important peripherals like display, touch screen, and MMC card. So we are very confident that the already scheduled redesign (GTA04A3) will work right from the beginning and boot Linux. This looks like the start of the aera of new Openmoko devices. -- what it is -- For those who have not followed or are new to this project, the GTA04 is a OMAP3 based Smartphone Platform/Module [1] that fits as a motherboard replacement into a Openmoko Neo1973 or Freerunner case [2]. It is more or less the idea to squeeze a BeagleBoard into a handheld and was started by connecting a Openmoko Display to a BeagleBoard [3]. It will finally come with UMTS (HSPA), GPS, WLAN, Bluetooth, Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Altimeter, Compass, FM and an optional camera. An expansion B2B-connector allows to base a custom design on this module. A demo video of the GTA04A2 controlling the display and blinking the illuminated buttons is here [4]. A brief project description is [5]. Please excuse the low quality of the pictures, since our small team has so far focussed on hardware and software. The difference to off-the-shelf smartphones is that it will be well documented (CC-BY-SA) and schematics will be included in the spirit of the original Openmoko devices so that you can access all the nice peripherals we have designed into it. And through the expansion connectors you can also use it as a module in your design. And, it is a community project. Everyone is welcome to contribute. The driving force behind this project is Golden Delicious Computers (www.goldelico.com), a specialist for embedded hard-, firm- and software development located in Oberhaching near Munich, Bavaria, Germany. -- next steps -- A closed and safe process would be that we silently redesign the board (i.e. develop a GTA04A3), order some sample boards and test them. If everything finally works, we would order components and sit there and wait for them to arrive. Then, we would announce generaly availability in big ads in NYT and FAZ. In this mode, you may deduce, that you will not be able to get a GTA04 earlier than Summer next year if we don't run out of money before. -- early adopter program -- Therefore, we have thought hat we offer an early adoper program to the benefit of everybody. The idea is that you can order a GTA04A3 immediately. At a fixed price (280 EUR). And we take the risk that prices of components will change. You only take the risk that we may need more time to get the components and have to spin another PCB. Using your money, we will order the core components with a long lead time (OMAP, Memory, UMTS module) as soon as possible - and early enough before the GTA04A3 design is finished. This makes sure that we have enough components for the first batch to be produced. And we will not spend the money for anything else so that you could even visit us to see your chips... But please don't touch. Once, the GTA04A3 boards arrive, we will test some of them and if everything looks ok, we will produce your early adopter devices. Only in the case that the A3 board has another serious flaw, we will have to design a GTA04A4 board first. This all speeds up the process dramatically so that we currently estimate delivery of the first units by March 2011. The price has been set very low so that it just covers component and production cost at a reduced feature set (there are not all peripherals installed but UMTS and GPS will be). It might be possible to retrofit some of them. Please note that it does *not* include the LCD module, case and battery, because it is a motherboard-replacement to existing Openmoko units (Freerunner and Neo1973). And, we can't specify yet which version of the
Re: wiki down?
--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: Anyone knows what happened to the wiki.openmoko.org? Sorry, this was an unexpected after-effect due to a kernel update on one of our machines. The virtual machine running the wiki did not come up after the reboot for some reason, and I was only checking the mail / mailinglist service (a different vhost) after the reboot and thought everything was up and running. Please let me know if there are any other oddities, The projects site is down as well. I tried : http://projects.openmoko.org/ http://ffs.projects.openmoko.org/ Is that also related with those machines? Rafa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Hallo Nikolaus, --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote: we are happy that we can make an announcement to the Free and Open Hardware Community, right in time for X-mas and New Year: I am happy to read it! Congratulations! So we are very confident that the already scheduled redesign (GTA04A3) will work right from the beginning and boot Linux. (http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/MOV00714.mov) It's alive!! Haha, in fact it seems quite reminiscant of a nuclear whiteout followed by a blackout (emphasized by the post-apocalyptic style of the recording appliance shown in the reflection of the screen) ;-) -- next steps -- In this mode, you may deduce, that you will not be able to (...) run out of money before. I hate that too :-( -- early adopter program -- Therefore, we have thought hat we offer an early adoper program to the benefit of everybody. The idea is that you can order a GTA04A3 immediately. (...) and if everything looks ok, we will produce your early adopter devices. Only in the case that the A3 board has another serious flaw, we will have to design a GTA04A4 board first. You will test two way voice communication, will you? I keep receiving complaints about echo/buzz (indeed, haven't applied fix ...) estimate delivery of the first units by March 2011. After wetting the appetite during FOSDEM ... (there are not all peripherals installed but UMTS and GPS will be). It might be possible to retrofit some of them. I am quite interested, but a bit hesitant for missing goodies. Do you have some (closer) estimate about what's missing and what which of those things are retrofittable? And, come to FOSDEM 2011 to see and touch a GTA04 and discuss with us about this new gadget. :-) We wish you all merry christmas and a happy new year. Same to you and the team! Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
(there are not all peripherals installed but UMTS and GPS will be). It might be possible to retrofit some of them. I am quite interested, but a bit hesitant for missing goodies. Do you have some (closer) estimate about what's missing and what which of those things are retrofittable? I'm hesitant too, so I made a donation which it sounds like will be used to subsidize the handset of someone braver than I. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wiki down?
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:58:40PM -0800, Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: Anyone knows what happened to the wiki.openmoko.org? Sorry, this was an unexpected after-effect due to a kernel update on one of our machines. The virtual machine running the wiki did not come up after the reboot for some reason, and I was only checking the mail / mailinglist service (a different vhost) after the reboot and thought everything was up and running. Please let me know if there are any other oddities, The projects site is down as well. I tried : http://projects.openmoko.org/ http://ffs.projects.openmoko.org/ Is that also related with those machines? Yes, it is related. However, the reason for the downtime is the fact that nobody is maintaining the projects.openmoko.org installation anymore, and it is running a machine with such old OS + software that for simple security reasons we had to take it down. I wish there was a different choice, but we are out of options. There is nobody maintaining projects.openmoko.org :( I was hoping for a solution where we can keep all the old proejcts.om.org content in read-only mode, but once again, who is supposed to do the sysadmin work required for that? :/ Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The epoch is upon me.
Em 21-12-2010 12:55, Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) escreveu: The last time my FreeRunner's battery died, the clock reset to epoch. Now, it no longer keeps time during suspend either. I'm guessing this means the clock battery has finally died. Someone recently commented that they replaced their battery with a pair of super caps. I just wanted to confirm my diagnosis before I take a soldering iron to my phone. Cheers, John Gay So that's why my clock...? a) goes back to 2000 without a battery b) takes so long to update the clock in the toolbar and idle screen of SHR Damn, any instructions on how to do this properly? Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
On 21/12/10 15:33, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Please note that it does *not* include the LCD module, case and battery, because it is a motherboard-replacement to existing Openmoko units (Freerunner and Neo1973). how much work is it to do this motherboard replacement? do we just unscrew our old openmoko, and put it in? does it need soldering? would it be reversible? Also what has been done to improve sound quality? Thanks Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The epoch is upon me.
On Tuesday 21 December 2010, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Em 21-12-2010 12:55, Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) escreveu: The last time my FreeRunner's battery died, the clock reset to epoch. Now, it no longer keeps time during suspend either. I'm guessing this means the clock battery has finally died. Someone recently commented that they replaced their battery with a pair of super caps. I just wanted to confirm my diagnosis before I take a soldering iron to my phone. Cheers, John Gay So that's why my clock...? a) goes back to 2000 without a battery Probably b) takes so long to update the clock in the toolbar and idle screen of SHR Unlikely - even in suspend the rtc is powered from the main battery, not the backup. The lack of update is most likely a software bug not a hardware problem. Damn, any instructions on how to do this properly? Just the post to the list. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Am 21.12.2010 um 22:24 schrieb W. B. Kranendonk: Hallo Nikolaus, --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote: we are happy that we can make an announcement to the Free and Open Hardware Community, right in time for X-mas and New Year: I am happy to read it! Congratulations! So we are very confident that the already scheduled redesign (GTA04A3) will work right from the beginning and boot Linux. (http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/MOV00714.mov) It's alive!! Haha, in fact it seems quite reminiscant of a nuclear whiteout followed by a blackout (emphasized by the post-apocalyptic style of the recording appliance shown in the reflection of the screen) ;-) Well, that is just a side-effect of the sensitivity regulation of the camera :) We will make better movies soon. -- next steps -- In this mode, you may deduce, that you will not be able to (...) run out of money before. I hate that too :-( -- early adopter program -- Therefore, we have thought hat we offer an early adoper program to the benefit of everybody. The idea is that you can order a GTA04A3 immediately. (...) and if everything looks ok, we will produce your early adopter devices. Only in the case that the A3 board has another serious flaw, we will have to design a GTA04A4 board first. You will test two way voice communication, will you? I keep receiving complaints about echo/buzz (indeed, haven't applied fix ...) Sure. estimate delivery of the first units by March 2011. After wetting the appetite during FOSDEM ... (there are not all peripherals installed but UMTS and GPS will be). It might be possible to retrofit some of them. I am quite interested, but a bit hesitant for missing goodies. Do you have some (closer) estimate about what's missing and what which of those things are retrofittable? Since you are not the only one to note this, we thought that we add an Upgrade Kit offer. This includes all the missing parts. Kit is not exact since we will have the parts soldered to the PCB, i.e. no additional work for you. The idea is to keep the basic version down in price since not everyone needs everything. Details on the updated order page: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04-Early-Adopterreferer=GTA04-Early-Adopter And, come to FOSDEM 2011 to see and touch a GTA04 and discuss with us about this new gadget. :-) We wish you all merry christmas and a happy new year. Same to you and the team! Thank! Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Hi Sam, Am 22.12.2010 um 01:54 schrieb sam tygier: On 21/12/10 15:33, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Please note that it does *not* include the LCD module, case and battery, because it is a motherboard-replacement to existing Openmoko units (Freerunner and Neo1973). how much work is it to do this motherboard replacement? do we just unscrew our old openmoko, and put it in? does it need soldering? would it be reversible? Yes - it is reversible. It is essentially the following steps: * remove battery, SIM, SD * open the Openmoko (screws) * remove the motherboard * unplug the GPS antenna * remove the Display (this is quite tricky without breaking the module or ripping off the cables) * glue to the GTA04 motherboard * scratch a little to widen the USB connector hole (the GTA02 has a Mini-B socket, the GTA04 a full OTG which is slightly wider) * install the GTA04 board * plug in the GPS antenna * close the Openmoko * install (different) SD card, SIM card, battery We plan to make a video of this process. If you don't want to tackle with the display I recommend to add a new display module for the new board. Also what has been done to improve sound quality? Sound is handled by completely different components. The main audio codec is within the TPS65950. The interface to the UMTS module is PCM (digital). So the only deterioration of sound quality is between the microphone and the TPS. We have ordered a sample of a digital microphone chip. So we may replace the analog path at all and make it more robust. On the speaker power amplifier the TPS design has much bigger coupling capacitors than the GTA02 had. So the bass-fix is already designed in. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Hi, 2010/12/22 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: (there are not all peripherals installed but UMTS and GPS will be). It might be possible to retrofit some of them. I am quite interested, but a bit hesitant for missing goodies. Do you have some (closer) estimate about what's missing and what which of those things are retrofittable? Since you are not the only one to note this, we thought that we add an Upgrade Kit offer. This includes all the missing parts. Kit is not exact since we will have the parts soldered to the PCB, i.e. no additional work for you. The idea is to keep the basic version down in price since not everyone needs everything. Details on the updated order page: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04-Early-Adopterreferer=GTA04-Early-Adopter There is a display module in the order table. Is it an alternative display for users without freerunner? regards Andreas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Am 22.12.2010 um 08:38 schrieb Andreas Pokorny: Hi, 2010/12/22 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: (there are not all peripherals installed but UMTS and GPS will be). It might be possible to retrofit some of them. I am quite interested, but a bit hesitant for missing goodies. Do you have some (closer) estimate about what's missing and what which of those things are retrofittable? Since you are not the only one to note this, we thought that we add an Upgrade Kit offer. This includes all the missing parts. Kit is not exact since we will have the parts soldered to the PCB, i.e. no additional work for you. The idea is to keep the basic version down in price since not everyone needs everything. Details on the updated order page: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04-Early-Adopterreferer=GTA04-Early-Adopter There is a display module in the order table. Is it an alternative display for users without freerunner? Yes, it is the TD028TTEC1 - the same as used in the Freerunner. So if you don't own a Freerunner, you can make the GTA04 useable with this display. But there is no plastic case, no GSM/GPS antenna and no speakers etc. provided (yet). So you can use it only as a PDA or WiFi MID (without sound/telephony). And, connecting the battery is a little tricky (but possible). The main idea to provide a display is that not everyone wants to disassemble the freerunner core module (PCB + Display) to easily swap both. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
2010/12/21 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: So we are very confident that the already scheduled redesign (GTA04A3) will work right from the beginning and boot Linux. This looks like the start of the aera of new Openmoko devices. This is indeed the first time after Neo1973 and FreeRunner that there is equally exciting news. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
