Re: Buzz Fix

2011-03-09 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
le Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:55:47 +0100
Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it a écrit:

 2011-03-08@21:04 Wesley Frazier
 
  Anybody have any tips on mitigating the buzz?
  
  If I have a model with the buzz, will grabbing the GTA04 motherboard
  when it comes out correct it?
 
 try to low the gain of your mic with alsamixer during a call and if
 you like the result save the status in the scenario file(s) the
 drawback is you have to speak loud
 
 about gta04: it's a completely different hardware to be put inside
 your case, not an upgrade module for gta02 board... the only thing
 you keep from your current phone is just the plastic case and the
 display ;) (+the battery, maybe) (and I hope we don't have similar hw
 issues in the new gta04 too! ^_^)


Nope, Hopefully the GTA04 will come with brand new issues, bugs 
problems. ;-D

This is a joke, I'm waiting for one (to solve bugs) !

 
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Re: [cutemaze] on [qtmoko 33] howto control moves?

2011-03-09 Thread cyberesprit
in v32, the accelerometers do not work too
  

Le mardi 08 mars 2011 21:32:55, Joif a écrit :
 Hi!
 Are we talking about QtMaze? If so I noticed that in the v33, and at least
 in QtMaze, the accelerometers do not work. Instead, the new game Gottet (a
 tetris clone) that I found in the apps page, seems to not have any kind of
 control buttons. I don't know if in previous version of QtMoko it worked
 with the accelerometers, but in v33 the game does not respond to any kind
 of input.
 
 Regards
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Re: Have I fried my freerunner?

2011-03-09 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 09 March 2011, John O'Hagan wrote:
 On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Chuck Norris wrote:
  04.03.2011 06:27, John O'Hagan пишет:
   On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote:
   On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:16:54 +
   
   John O'Hagan resea...@johnohagan.com wrote:
   Hi,
   
   After a couple of years of fairly trouble-free
   qtmoko-FR use, I used a cheap in-car charger on a
   recent trip. The charger died, and the FR itself
   began exhibiting a number of odd behaviours such
   as not coming back from suspend, indicating
   charging status when it was not charging,
   crashing, and after a couple of days, not booting
   into qtmoko at all.
[snip]
 I needed to reflash both Qi and the rootfs to get a bootable
 phone, but to no avail: although the reflashing went fine, the FR
 will no longer charge, although the battery indicator showed
 charging status. Both my batteries are now dead.
 
 Looks like my poor FR took quite a beating from that cheap
 charger.
 
 Any advice how to diagnose/repair this?

Since you're asking I assume you don't have much/any electronic diagnostic 
skill, and wouldn't find the schematics much use. If so, your best bet is 
probably to find someone with the right skills as you'll need someone skilful 
to do any repairs anyway. If you can recharge your batteries with a nokia or 
universal charger there is a functional test that can narrow down the problem 
a little. 

Schematics and component placement:
http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-
GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf
http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/component-
placement_by_lindi/
Opening the Freerunner is the same as the Neo1973:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973
The charge controller is under the same can as the capacitors for the bass 
fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix

The USB connector and protection is on page 7 of the schematics, and its 
connection to the power controller and battery is on page 4. If you're lucky 
one or more of the protective diode clamps has failed short circuit, and can 
be replaced relatively easily. If you're unlucky you have a power controller 
that is only partially working. Replacing that isn't an easy job even if you 
can get a spare part.

If you have a working battery then you can try a battery swap to see if the 
power is getting to the power control chip. Boot the phone, plug in the 
charger, then remove the battery briefly as if you were changing batteries. If 
it keeps running than the power is reaching the power controller which is most 
likely partially broken. If it powers down then the problem might be in the 
protective bits before the power controller.

Good luck!

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Re: GPRS and QTMoko

2011-03-09 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Wesley Frazier wes.fraz...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I boot my freerunner up from a
 cold boot and manually start GPRS it
 works fine. (...) it seems to
 stop
 working,(...)Regardless of whether or not it is set to On
 Demand or
 not. 
I got the same issue on QTMoko 0.33. I can prevent it by turning on 
multiplexing under modem settings in NeoControl: then it won't connect at all. 

A while back GPRS came up as well; anyone with an uninterrupted connection, 
could you tell whether you run anything in the background or prevent bursts of 
activity, or anything the like?

Boudewijn


  

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Re: GPRS and QTMoko

2011-03-09 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
--- On Wed, 3/9/11, W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Wesley Frazier
 wes.fraz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  If I boot my freerunner up from a
  cold boot and manually start GPRS it
  works fine. (...) it seems to
  stop
 I got the same issue on QTMoko 0.33. 
 A while back GPRS came up as well; 
came up on the list, that is.

 run anything in the background 
I tried one of the suggestions, run ping in the background as keep alive.

For the last one and a half hour (or something), ping has been running happily 
with about 750ms for an answer; count of icmp_req is 2800 at the moment. 

The usefulness of the connection seems to have dropped though: the first 
minutes NeronGPS would receive tiles relatively fast, and browsing websites 
mostly filled with text would be OK. 

At the moment, downloading four tiles for one screen of NeronGPS takes close to 
half a minute (increasing icmp answers to about 2 seconds).

All of this is symptom description of course, I still have to find out whether 
I am able to do anything useful with the underlying code.

Regards,

Boudewijn 


  

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[qtmoko33] wifi doesn't power off and drains the battery (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-09 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it wrote:
 previously I had v31 and it was ok, but only on the first attempt and then I 
 needed to reboot
 (rebooted also because wifi didn't stop and battery drain empty in few hours)

quoting myself to report this bug is present in v33 too:

if you successfully connect to any wifi network (in v33 only open
networs are accessible) then the hardware remains in active state,
draining the battery flat in few hours depsite you disable the
connection via the software interface.

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Re: [qtmoko33] wifi doesn't power off and drains the battery

2011-03-09 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Alfa21-mobile freerun...@my.is.it writes:
 draining the battery flat in few hours depsite you disable the
 connection via the software interface.

I think there are different interface alternatives. Which one are you
using?


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Re: [qtmoko33] wifi doesn't power off and drains the battery (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-09 Thread W. B. Kranendonk


--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Alfa21-mobile freerun...@my.is.it wrote:
 if you successfully connect to any wifi network (in v33
 only open
 networs are accessible) then the hardware remains in active
 state,
 draining the battery flat in few hours depsite you disable
 the
 connection via the software interface.
Ah, that explains..! I had such an idea, after my battery ran out much faster 
than I expected.

In general, is there a GUI-feedback on the neo-quick-settings (or what is it, 
top left icon with the cogwheels when using Faenqo?) 

For now, I put most of them in favourites, so that I will return to home 
after successfully clicking something. The current status of some of them I 
have been able to find back in the GUI, so I understand that for now /proc can 
be consulted for the current status?

Boudewijn


  

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Re: GPRS and QTMoko

2011-03-09 Thread Brian
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 04:14:42 -0800 (PST)
W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 --- On Wed, 3/9/11, W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote:
  --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Wesley Frazier
  wes.fraz...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   If I boot my freerunner up from a
   cold boot and manually start GPRS it
   works fine. (...) it seems to
   stop
  I got the same issue on QTMoko 0.33. 
  A while back GPRS came up as well; 
 came up on the list, that is.
 
  run anything in the background 
 I tried one of the suggestions, run ping in the background as keep
 alive.
 
 For the last one and a half hour (or something), ping has been
 running happily with about 750ms for an answer; count of icmp_req is
 2800 at the moment. 
 

I left an irssi session running for ~12 hours which never PTO'd. I did
and still do have problems with GPRS staying connected whether using on
demand or always on unless I background something.

 The usefulness of the connection seems to have dropped though: the
 first minutes NeronGPS would receive tiles relatively fast, and
 browsing websites mostly filled with text would be OK. 
 
 At the moment, downloading four tiles for one screen of NeronGPS
 takes close to half a minute (increasing icmp answers to about 2
 seconds).

My provider (T-Mobile) has an unlimited $1.49 data day pass which
slows to a crawl once it hits 30Mb of data. Does your provider do
something similar?

I hadn't noticed any slowdowns until hitting this limit while running
irssi to keep the connection alive. Once it does slow down it stays
slow until I buy another day pass. Does your connection speed ever
increase again?

Perhaps using mtr-tiny instead of ping might shed some light on what's
happening with your GPRS connection.

 
 All of this is symptom description of course, I still have to find
 out whether I am able to do anything useful with the underlying code.
 
 Regards,
 
 Boudewijn 

This reminds me of the old days when AOL used to drop connections which
usually happened in the middle of a rather large software update of
course.

Brian

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Re: qtmoko v33

2011-03-09 Thread giacomo 'giotti' mariani

On 03/04/2011 23:17, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote:

  Thanks for keeping up the good work Radek.
  I'm currently running v31. I added the new repository to the sources.list
  file, did an apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade and this is what I get:
  
  Preparing to replace qtmoko 31-13 (using

  .../archives/qtmoko_33-1_armel.deb) ...
  Unpacking replacement qtmoko ...
  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/qtmoko_33-1_armel.deb
  (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/opt/qtmoko/help/html/packagemanager-view-app.html',
  which is also in package qtmoko-files
  dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
  Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/qtmoko_33-1_armel.deb
  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
  
  What should I do to upgrade to the latest?

I think you should delete /opt then

update-rc.d -f qpe.sh remove
apt-get install qtmoko
update-rc.d qtmoko defaults

However i have not tested this and i dont promise it will work:-)  Please note
that this is still experimental. Next version will be probably stable.

Regards

Radek


It worked perfectly, thanks!
Moreover, the battery duration looks improved: another good news!

Cheers
   Giacomo

PS Is it possible to install all the tool-chain (build-dep, libqt4-dev, 
qtmoko-debian-toolchain-armv4t-eabi.tar.gz, libmpfr1ldbl_XXX_i386.deb 
and libgmp3c2_XXX_i386.deb) on Lenny, x86_64, as a normal user?


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Re: Buzz Fix

2011-03-09 Thread Brian
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:19:13 +0100
Thomas  HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote:

 le Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:55:47 +0100
 Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it a écrit:
 
  2011-03-08@21:04 Wesley Frazier
  
   Anybody have any tips on mitigating the buzz?
   
   If I have a model with the buzz, will grabbing the GTA04
   motherboard when it comes out correct it?
  
  try to low the gain of your mic with alsamixer during a call and if
  you like the result save the status in the scenario file(s) the
  drawback is you have to speak loud
  

This worked for me on qtmoko, I was using a bluetooth headset most of
the time but there are some issues with that approach. Here's a link
from a previous ml posting about audio settings:

http://hnet.endofinternet.net/elektro/Freerunner/ALSA/sound_setting.html


Good luck Wesley!

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Re: [qtmoko33] wifi doesn't power off and drains the battery (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-09 Thread Alfa21-mobile
yes, I can confirm, with the command:
echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/unbind
the battery charge is in safe :)
tnx!


On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:29 PM, W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote:


 --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Alfa21-mobile freerun...@my.is.it wrote:
 if you successfully connect to any wifi network (in v33
 only open
 networs are accessible) then the hardware remains in active
 state,
 draining the battery flat in few hours depsite you disable
 the
 connection via the software interface.
 Ah, that explains..! I had such an idea, after my battery ran out much faster 
 than I expected.

 In general, is there a GUI-feedback on the neo-quick-settings (or what is it, 
 top left icon with the cogwheels when using Faenqo?)

 For now, I put most of them in favourites, so that I will return to home 
 after successfully clicking something. The current status of some of them I 
 have been able to find back in the GUI, so I understand that for now /proc 
 can be consulted for the current status?

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sd card not unmounting?

2011-03-09 Thread dmatthews.org
Brian bn...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

 This worked for me on qtmoko, I was using a bluetooth headset most of
 the time but there are some issues with that approach. Here's a link
 from a previous ml posting about audio settings:
 
 http://hnet.endofinternet.net/elektro/Freerunner/ALSA/sound_setting.html

That article solves my sound problems! - thanks for posting it.

I automount a sd card partition (ext2); the system does not seem to unmount it 
cleanly. It makes no difference whether I halt or reboot either from the gui or 
commandline; when the neo comes back up if I fsck the card it reports that it 
was not unmounted cleanly.

I've just updated to v33 after sticking for some time with v26 - I'm pretty 
certain this behaviour did not happen in that older version. Certainly the card 
would need a fsck after a crash, but not after a clean shut down.

Would someone check this - it looks like a bug to me.
-- 
David Matthews
m...@dmatthews.org

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Re: GPRS and QTMoko

2011-03-09 Thread Wesley Frazier
I have recently discovered if I set the GPRS connection to Only
Connect When Needed and then start and stop it. THEN switch it to
Always Online after a fresh reboot, that I then can enjoy days of
GPRS data on end, until my next reboot.

The problem is this ritual is sub optimal. Obviously the first
connection is initializing something that the Always Online mode
fails to. Although I do not know what it could be.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Brian bn...@rochester.rr.com
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:40:39 -0500
 Subject: Re: GPRS and QTMoko
 On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 04:14:42 -0800 (PST)
 W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 --- On Wed, 3/9/11, W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote:
  --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Wesley Frazier
  wes.fraz...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   If I boot my freerunner up from a
   cold boot and manually start GPRS it
   works fine. (...) it seems to
   stop
  I got the same issue on QTMoko 0.33.
  A while back GPRS came up as well;
 came up on the list, that is.

  run anything in the background
 I tried one of the suggestions, run ping in the background as keep
 alive.

 For the last one and a half hour (or something), ping has been
 running happily with about 750ms for an answer; count of icmp_req is
 2800 at the moment.


 I left an irssi session running for ~12 hours which never PTO'd. I did
 and still do have problems with GPRS staying connected whether using on
 demand or always on unless I background something.

 The usefulness of the connection seems to have dropped though: the
 first minutes NeronGPS would receive tiles relatively fast, and
 browsing websites mostly filled with text would be OK.

 At the moment, downloading four tiles for one screen of NeronGPS
 takes close to half a minute (increasing icmp answers to about 2
 seconds).

 My provider (T-Mobile) has an unlimited $1.49 data day pass which
 slows to a crawl once it hits 30Mb of data. Does your provider do
 something similar?

 I hadn't noticed any slowdowns until hitting this limit while running
 irssi to keep the connection alive. Once it does slow down it stays
 slow until I buy another day pass. Does your connection speed ever
 increase again?

 Perhaps using mtr-tiny instead of ping might shed some light on what's
 happening with your GPRS connection.


 All of this is symptom description of course, I still have to find
 out whether I am able to do anything useful with the underlying code.

 Regards,

 Boudewijn

 This reminds me of the old days when AOL used to drop connections which
 usually happened in the middle of a rather large software update of
 course.

 Brian



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Re: Buzz Fix

2011-03-09 Thread Wesley Frazier
Pretty familiar with alsamixer, although what do I need to do to save
the scenario file?

Do you think it is worth my time to pursue getting the buzzfix or
should I just wait for the GTA04 ? Whats the expected release date /
price ?


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 From: Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:55:47 +0100
 Subject: Re: Buzz Fix
 2011-03-08@21:04 Wesley Frazier

 Anybody have any tips on mitigating the buzz?

 If I have a model with the buzz, will grabbing the GTA04 motherboard
 when it comes out correct it?

 try to low the gain of your mic with alsamixer during a call and if you like 
 the result save the status in the scenario file(s)
 the drawback is you have to speak loud

 about gta04: it's a completely different hardware to be put inside your case, 
 not an upgrade module for gta02 board... the only thing you keep from your 
 current phone is just the plastic case and the display ;) (+the battery, 
 maybe)
 (and I hope we don't have similar hw issues in the new gta04 too! ^_^)

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Re: sd card not unmounting?

2011-03-09 Thread Brian
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:46:45 +
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org wrote:

 Brian bn...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
 
  This worked for me on qtmoko, I was using a bluetooth headset most
  of the time but there are some issues with that approach. Here's a
  link from a previous ml posting about audio settings:
  
  http://hnet.endofinternet.net/elektro/Freerunner/ALSA/sound_setting.html
 
 That article solves my sound problems! - thanks for posting it.
 

Glad it helped but the real thanks goes here:

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2011-January/064233.html

 I automount a sd card partition (ext2); the system does not seem to
 unmount it cleanly. It makes no difference whether I halt or reboot
 either from the gui or commandline; when the neo comes back up if I
 fsck the card it reports that it was not unmounted cleanly.


Perhaps there's an open file on the mounted partition? You might try
using lsof and fuser to diagnose this.
 
 I've just updated to v33 after sticking for some time with v26 - I'm
 pretty certain this behaviour did not happen in that older version.
 Certainly the card would need a fsck after a crash, but not after a
 clean shut down.


I used v26 for a long time as well and am currently using v31. Neither
of them has exhibited the behavior you're reporting.
 
 Would someone check this - it looks like a bug to me.

I might try upgrading to v33 soon but probably not for a couple of
weeks. Good luck in diagnosing the problem though. You might want to
start a new thread so this one doesn't get convoluted with two very
different topics.

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Re: GPRS and QTMoko

2011-03-09 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Wesley Frazier wes.fraz...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have recently discovered if I set
(cut ritual)
 GPRS data on end, until my next reboot.

You ARE quite sure that it does not have to do with the phase of the moon, the 
number of mushrooms in your basement or anything the like? 

 The problem is this ritual is sub optimal. Obviously the
 first
 connection is initializing something that the Always
 Online mode
 fails to. Although I do not know what it could be.
Haha, it is not the most optimal, but the results count. I will give it a try!

Boudewijn



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  From: Brian bn...@rochester.rr.com
  To: community@lists.openmoko.org
  Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:40:39 -0500
  Subject: Re: GPRS and QTMoko
  On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 04:14:42 -0800 (PST)
  W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  --- On Wed, 3/9/11, W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
   --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Wesley Frazier
   wes.fraz...@gmail.com
   wrote:
If I boot my freerunner up from a
cold boot and manually start GPRS it
works fine. (...) it seems to
stop
   I got the same issue on QTMoko 0.33.
   A while back GPRS came up as well;
  came up on the list, that is.
 
   run anything in the background
  I tried one of the suggestions, run ping in the
 background as keep
  alive.
 
  For the last one and a half hour (or something),
 ping has been
  running happily with about 750ms for an answer;
 count of icmp_req is
  2800 at the moment.
 
 
  I left an irssi session running for ~12 hours which
 never PTO'd. I did
  and still do have problems with GPRS staying connected
 whether using on
  demand or always on unless I background something.
 
  The usefulness of the connection seems to have
 dropped though: the
  first minutes NeronGPS would receive tiles
 relatively fast, and
  browsing websites mostly filled with text would be
 OK.
 
  At the moment, downloading four tiles for one
 screen of NeronGPS
  takes close to half a minute (increasing icmp
 answers to about 2
  seconds).
 
  My provider (T-Mobile) has an unlimited $1.49 data
 day pass which
  slows to a crawl once it hits 30Mb of data. Does
 your provider do
  something similar?
 
  I hadn't noticed any slowdowns until hitting this
 limit while running
  irssi to keep the connection alive. Once it does slow
 down it stays
  slow until I buy another day pass. Does your
 connection speed ever
  increase again?
 
  Perhaps using mtr-tiny instead of ping might shed some
 light on what's
  happening with your GPRS connection.
 
 
  All of this is symptom description of course, I
 still have to find
  out whether I am able to do anything useful with
 the underlying code.
 
  Regards,
 
  Boudewijn
 
  This reminds me of the old days when AOL used to drop
 connections which
  usually happened in the middle of a rather large
 software update of
  course.
 
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bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread dmatthews.org
I do think this is a bug new in v33

as described below any shutdown/reboot, whether from commandline or gui, means 
that a fsck of the card reports it was not cleanly unmounted.

I ran 

lsof | grep /media/card 

to show no open files - but this is too regular (100% reproducible) and never 
happened after a clean shutdown on v26. In any case the system should force a 
close of any unopen files and an umount before it shuts down.

  I automount a sd card partition (ext2); the system does not seem to
  unmount it cleanly. It makes no difference whether I halt or reboot
  either from the gui or commandline; when the neo comes back up if I
  fsck the card it reports that it was not unmounted cleanly.
 
 




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Re: [QtMoko] faenqomod updated

2011-03-09 Thread Joif
Hi!
The bulk of the Faenza icons used are png (exported from svg) with
transparent elements. The jpgs do not support transparency, so a set of jpg
icons, derived from the original pngs, could have graphical glitches.

I have a question. I'm trying to bring in the context bar the
inputmethod-plugin (the icon to choose the keyboard).
In the context bar is easy to set three areas (maybe for a third button),
this is the code (from the theme xml): http://pastebin.com/X1gkkf4n

in this way I have: button0, button1, test pic;
Now, if I take, from the title bar xml file, the lines for the
inputmethod-plugin and I copy/paste them substituting the test pic (just
adjusting the dimension and the position): http://pastebin.com/B9kFtq1s

I have a non working system, it is necessary to delete the added lines or I
can only use the moko via ssh from usb, the GUI seems to not load and I see
only the console on screen. IIRC in previous versions of QtMoko I had an
everlasting series of segmentation faults.
the question is: why these lines work in the titlebar but not in the context
bar?
Thank you!

Joif


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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread Alfa21-mobile
no, not here.
I've v33 and works for me! (full installation on uSD with 3
partitions: storage/rootfs/swap)

rather, are you 100% sure about your hardware clock? otherwise system
vs rtc clock skews may trigger a check of the filesystem!

regards.


On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:36 PM, dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org wrote:
 I do think this is a bug new in v33

 as described below any shutdown/reboot, whether from commandline or gui, 
 means that a fsck of the card reports it was not cleanly unmounted.

 I ran

 lsof | grep /media/card

 to show no open files - but this is too regular (100% reproducible) and never 
 happened after a clean shutdown on v26. In any case the system should force a 
 close of any unopen files and an umount before it shuts down.

  I automount a sd card partition (ext2); the system does not seem to
  unmount it cleanly. It makes no difference whether I halt or reboot
  either from the gui or commandline; when the neo comes back up if I
  fsck the card it reports that it was not unmounted cleanly.
 





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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread dmatthews.org


 no, not here.
 I've v33 and works for me! (full installation on uSD with 3
 partitions: storage/rootfs/swap)

My roofs is on nand; the rootfs unmounts cleanly, but not the uSD based 
partition that I automount on /media/card

 rather, are you 100% sure about your hardware clock? otherwise system
 vs rtc clock skews may trigger a check of the filesystem!
 

I don't think this can explain it, but to check I did this:-

1. I shutdown the neo and fsck the uSD in a laptop 
2. this reports a filesystem that was not unmounted properly - same as I get on 
the Neo
3 I put the card back in the neo and start up and fsck - I have a clean 
filesystem on the uSD for the first time after a shutdown/reboot!

I think this is clear evidence of an unclean shutdown and it only happens since 
I upgrade to v33  - I don't think there is any hardware issue here.

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Re: Buzz Fix

2011-03-09 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-09@12:05 Wesley Frazier

 Pretty familiar with alsamixer, although what do I need to do to save
 the scenario file?

in a shell:
alsactl -f /my/path/to/test.scenario store


 Do you think it is worth my time to pursue getting the buzzfix or
 should I just wait for the GTA04 ? Whats the expected release date /
 price ?

I think you should try with the mixer.
afaik there is no release date by now for the upcoming gta04.

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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread dmatthews.org

 mmh.. I can't say anything on this topic... I've never tried nand since 
 om2008 :P
 maybe it's a bug specific for nand users with a uSD partition?

 
yes maybe - I always use the nand though and this did not happen with v26

 please try this:
 log-in via usb-ssh on your moko
 /etc/init.d/qpe stop (or through the gui shutdown qt extended)
 killall atd
 hwclock -r (check if the result is ok)
 date (verify it's the same value)
 
root@moke:~# /etc/init.d/qpe stop
-bash: /etc/init.d/qpe: No such file or directory
root@moke:~# /etc/init.d/qtmoko stop   
root@moke:~# killall atd
atd: no process found
root@moke:~# hwclock -r
Wed Mar  9 19:29:45 2011  -0.155039 seconds
root@moke:~# date
Wed Mar  9 19:29:55 UTC 2011
root@moke:~# 

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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread dmatthews.org
I think I should add to my own post to mention that I briefly tried the January 
SHR testing a few weeks ago. That had the same problem ie (even) a clean 
shutdown - fsck reporting improper unmounting of the uSD.

To summarize my experience:-
qtmoko v26 - this problem does not happen
SHR testing - I first see this issue
back to qtmoko v26 - problem goes away
qtmoko v33 -the same problem comes back

I assume both distros are using the same kernel, so my guess is there is a 
problem there.

 
 root@moke:~# /etc/init.d/qpe stop
 -bash: /etc/init.d/qpe: No such file or directory
 root@moke:~# /etc/init.d/qtmoko stop   
 root@moke:~# killall atd
 atd: no process found
 root@moke:~# hwclock -r
 Wed Mar  9 19:29:45 2011  -0.155039 seconds
 root@moke:~# date
 Wed Mar  9 19:29:55 UTC 2011
 root@moke:~# 


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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread Neil Jerram
On 9 March 2011 20:07, dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org wrote:
 I think I should add to my own post to mention that I briefly tried the 
 January SHR testing a few weeks ago. That had the same problem ie (even) a 
 clean shutdown - fsck reporting improper unmounting of the uSD.

Interesting.  Is there a way to check for the filesystem was not
unmounted cleanly status without removing the uSD and taking it to
another computer?

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Re: QtMoko and FSO (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-09 Thread Gennady Kupava
Hi,

I hope there is still some chances that Radek will change his dicision.

From my point of view where is no real need in FSO/qt gibrid, because of
following reasons:

1. qt stack has richer functionalily, better performance, and less bugs
than that FSO dbus/vala thing (don't throw rotten tomatoes to me plese)
2. qt has it's own resource management, FSO - it's own, rewriting qt one
to FSO one is worthless effort
3. where logs of significantly more useful, easier and non-destructive
goals to rich, i can suggest few:
3.1 switch back to X11. with new graphical subsystem performance this
will work great.
3.2 switch to newer qt versions 
3.3 fix 100500 bugs left
3.4 add gta04 support - most important
3.5 improve performance and usability
3.6 implement new features, like: 'geek' theme, sliding buttons in
answer screen

^^^ IMO this set can keep everyone busy for a while.

where is also no real benefit visible from switching to FSO. qtmoko will
become more complicated, more buggy, slower, harder to develop :(

I afraid i'll have to stay on non-FSO version forether. And certain,
this planned change worth more discussion. If someone wants FSO, better
to install it on debian or with SHR.

Gennady.

В Втр, 08/03/2011 в 18:00 +0100, Radek Polak пишет:
 Dmitry Chistikov wrote:
 
  I'm afraid it's too early to ask, but could you give an estimate on how
  much time it'll take to enable the use of FSO framework? Just something
  like about a year or, say, not less than four months.
 
 Writing simple dialer application could be matter of days/hours. Integrating 
 all the functions so that it looks like qtmoko now will be much more 
 difficult 
 (i cant even guess how much). We also need FSO running on debian - i'd prefer 
 current git version. I am not aware if there are debian packages for recent 
 FSO. Anyone knows?
 
 Regards
 
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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-09@20:26 Neil Jerram
 Interesting.  Is there a way to check for the filesystem was not
 unmounted cleanly status without removing the uSD and taking it to
 another computer?
 
Neil

yes, you can play with the usb file storage gadget module.
== /opt/qtmoko/bin/usb-mass-storage-on.sh

it should be quite the same as accessing the uSD as inserted into an usb reader.
(btw there is a known bug with g_file_storage module in v33 and you could get a 
kernel panic)

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SensMon - Monitoring sensors on your handheld

2011-03-09 Thread Michele Brocco
Hi folks,

I released a new version of SensMon (0.21) which among other things
allows to accept sensor data input through network socket or recorded
sensor data from a textfile. I also introduced sort of a config file
for setting basic options. Since it's not totally user-friendly yet,
you might take a look at the wiki page
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SensMon) for instructions on how to use
this features. This version is finally available directly from the
SHR-unstable feeds. Currently the FreeRunner accel chips (i2c (N900) +
spi interface), FRNBv1+v2 sensors and some others are supported
(remember to load the corresponding kernel modules before using ;)).

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Re: QtMoko and FSO (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-09 Thread zyth

Agree with Gennady. Look what happened to SHR!
It is also necessary to fix rndis  usb-host )

On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:48:28 +0300, Gennady Kupava wrote:

Hi,

I hope there is still some chances that Radek will change his 
dicision.


From my point of view where is no real need in FSO/qt gibrid, because 
of

following reasons:

1. qt stack has richer functionalily, better performance, and less 
bugs
than that FSO dbus/vala thing (don't throw rotten tomatoes to me 
plese)
2. qt has it's own resource management, FSO - it's own, rewriting qt 
one

to FSO one is worthless effort
3. where logs of significantly more useful, easier and 
non-destructive

goals to rich, i can suggest few:
3.1 switch back to X11. with new graphical subsystem performance this
will work great.
3.2 switch to newer qt versions
3.3 fix 100500 bugs left
3.4 add gta04 support - most important
3.5 improve performance and usability
3.6 implement new features, like: 'geek' theme, sliding buttons in
answer screen

^^^ IMO this set can keep everyone busy for a while.

where is also no real benefit visible from switching to FSO. qtmoko 
will

become more complicated, more buggy, slower, harder to develop :(

I afraid i'll have to stay on non-FSO version forether. And certain,
this planned change worth more discussion. If someone wants FSO, 
better

to install it on debian or with SHR.

Gennady.

В Втр, 08/03/2011 в 18:00 +0100, Radek Polak пишет:

Dmitry Chistikov wrote:

 I'm afraid it's too early to ask, but could you give an estimate 
on how
 much time it'll take to enable the use of FSO framework? Just 
something

 like about a year or, say, not less than four months.

Writing simple dialer application could be matter of days/hours. 
Integrating
all the functions so that it looks like qtmoko now will be much more 
difficult
(i cant even guess how much). We also need FSO running on debian - 
i'd prefer
current git version. I am not aware if there are debian packages for 
recent

FSO. Anyone knows?

Regards

Radek

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