Re: QtMoko's new keyboard
Its looking awesome Radek! Just make sure that any key supported by the old input methods is still supported... On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, while there was discussion about hw keyboard, i was working on software onscreen keyboard with simple goal: implement the best onscreen keyboard in the world. I think i am now very close ;-) The key is to have as big buttons as possible. Here is picture and video of how it looks now: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/keyboard.png http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyN7wS66y_I It still needs some more work, but it's currently very usable and i am really happy how it works. E.g. the video was taken with N900 in my left hand and still with the SMS layout i made no mistake. My plan for now is to finish it up and remove all those 5!! QtMoko input methods in favour of this one. I can make installable packages of the old methods if anyone is interested. This should be part of v45. For v46 i can try to implement customizable layouts and unicode characters. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko's new keyboard
Hello Radeck, On 05/08/2012 10:26 PM, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote: Hi, while there was discussion about hw keyboard, i was working on software onscreen keyboard with simple goal: implement the best onscreen keyboard in the world. I think i am now very close ;-) The key is to have as big buttons as possible. Here is picture and video of how it looks now: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/keyboard.png http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyN7wS66y_I It still needs some more work, but it's currently very usable and i am really happy how it works. E.g. the video was taken with N900 in my left hand and still with the SMS layout i made no mistake. My plan for now is to finish it up and remove all those 5!! QtMoko input methods in favour of this one. I can make installable packages of the old methods if anyone is interested. This should be part of v45. For v46 i can try to implement customizable layouts and unicode characters. Regards Radek Your keyboard looks very promising, thanks a lot! Anyway, I like the predictive keyboard very much and I'd like a package of it, just in case your one doesn't fit my needs. Best regards, Giacomo -- ## giacomo 'giotti' mariani gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-key 0x99bfa859 O ASCII ribbon campaign: stop HTML mail www.asciiribbon.org ## ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko's new keyboard
On 05/08/2012 10:26 PM, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote:
Hi,
while there was discussion about hw keyboard, i was working on software
onscreen keyboard with simple goal: implement the best onscreen keyboard in
the world.
I think i am now very close ;-) The key is to have as big buttons as
possible.
Here is picture and video of how it looks now:
http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/keyboard.png
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyN7wS66y_I
It still needs some more work, but it's currently very usable and i am really
happy how it works. E.g. the video was taken with N900 in my left hand and
still with the SMS layout i made no mistake.
My plan for now is to finish it up and remove all those 5!! QtMoko input
methods in favour of this one. I can make installable packages of the old
methods if anyone is interested. This should be part of v45. For v46 i can
try
to implement customizable layouts and unicode characters.
Regards
Radek
Hi Radek,
Thanks for this amazing step forward!
Is this work somehow available as well for the SHR distribution?
For the former Om2008.9 and now in SHR I'm using an enhanced version
which includes all Spanish tilded chars and signs like áíóéñ¡¿...
I'm attaching the keyboard file. Is yours somehow expandable as well or
could you produce a Spanish version of yours too?
Thanks in advance
matthias
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e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/
UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370)
UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5
##KBDCONF-1.0
kbd 450 190
# keyboard type
type TERMINAL
# an icon for the keyboard so you know which one you have
icon qwerty.png
# added by g...@unixarea.de for Spanish tilde chars
# $Id: Spanish.kbd,v 1.10 2009/03/02 15:55:17 guru Exp $
#
key 450 30 30
normal ¿ ¿
key 750 30 30
normal á á
capslockÁ Á
key 1050 30 30
normal é é
capslockÉ É
key 1350 30 30
normal í í
capslockÍ Í
key 1650 30 30
normal ñ ñ
capslockÑ Ñ
key 1950 30 30
normal ó ó
capslockÓ Ó
key 2250 30 30
normal ú ú
capslockÚ Ú
key 2550 30 30
normal ü ü
capslockÜ Ü
key 2850 30 30
normal ¡ ¡
key 0 30 30 30
normal ` grave
shift~ asciitilde
capslock ` grave
key 30 30 30 30
normal 1 1
shift! exclam
capslock 1 1
key 60 30 30 30
normal 2 2
shift@ at
capslock 2 2
key 90 30 30 30
normal 3 3
shift# numbersign
capslock 3 3
key 120 30 30 30
normal 4 4
shift$ dollar
capslock 4 4
key 150 30 30 30
normal 5 5
shift% percent
capslock 5 5
key 180 30 30 30
normal 6 6
shift^ asciicircum
capslock 6 6
key 210 30 30 30
normal 7 7
shift ampersand
capslock 7 7
key 240 30 30 30
normal 8 8
shift* asterisk
capslock 8 8
key 270 30 30 30
normal 9 9
shift( parenleft
capslock 9 9
key 300 30 30 30
normal 0 0
shift) parenright
capslock 0 0
key 330 30 30 30
normal - minus
shift_ underscore
capslock - minus
key 360 30 30 30
normal = equal
shift+ plus
capslock = equal
key 390 30 60 30
normal backspace.png BackSpace
key 0 60 45 30
normal tab.png Tab
shifttab.png ISO_Left_Tab
key 45 60 30 30
normal q q
shiftQ Q
capslock Q Q
key 75 60 30 30
normal w w
shiftW W
capslock W W
key 105 60 30 30
normal e e
shiftE E
capslock E E
key 135 60 30 30
normal r r
shiftR R
capslock R R
key 165 60 30 30
normal t t
shiftT T
capslock T T
key 195 60 30 30
normal y y
shiftY Y
capslock Y Y
key 225 60 30 30
normal u u
shiftU U
capslock U U
key 255 60 30 30
normal i i
shiftI I
capslock I I
key 285 60 30 30
normal o o
shiftO O
capslock O O
key 315 60 30 30
normal p p
shiftP P
capslock P P
key 345 60 30 30
normal [ bracketleft
shift{ braceleft
capslock [ bracketleft
key 375 60 30 30
normal ] bracketright
shift} braceright
capslock ] bracketright
key 405 60 45 30
normal \ backslash
shift| bar
capslock \ backslash
key 0 90 60 30
normal caps
capslock CAPS
is_capslock
key 60 90 30 30
normal a a
shiftA A
capslock A A
key 90 90 30 30
normal s s
shiftS S
capslock S S
key 120 90 30 30
normal d d
shiftD D
capslock D D
key 150 90 30 30
normal f f
shiftF F
capslock F F
key 180 90 30 30
normal g g
shiftG G
capslock G G
key 210 90 30 30
normal h h
shiftH H
capslock H H
key 240 90 30 30
normal j j
shiftJ J
capslock J J
key 270 90 30 30
normal k k
shiftK K
capslock K K
key 300 90 30 30
normal l l
shiftL L
capslock L L
key 330 90 30 30
NeoTools [Ubuntu]
Oops forgot to change the subject. I'm trying to figure out how to download and install Neotools. When I go the this link http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool. It goes to what look like the code? I read somewhere that I can copy this to Gedit and use some terminal commands to install it. Am I missing something? Thanks, Travis Bachelder This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NeoTools [Ubuntu]
Hi Travis Neotool is just a script. It does not need installation. You can run it from the terminal directly (./neotool.sh) Nowadays, I just use dfu-util directly... Regards, Nashvin On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Travis Bachelder tbachel...@shively.comwrote: Oops forgot to change the subject. I'm trying to figure out how to download and install Neotools. When I go the this link http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool. It goes to what look like the code? I read somewhere that I can copy this to Gedit and use some terminal commands to install it. Am I missing something? Thanks, Travis Bachelder This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko's new keyboard
On Wednesday, May 09, 2012 01:00:00 PM Matthias Apitz wrote: Is this work somehow available as well for the SHR distribution? IIRC SHR uses illume keyboard. It's entirely diffrent project. But since it took me just few days to do in Qt it should be quite the same amount of work for illume keyboard. For the former Om2008.9 and now in SHR I'm using an enhanced version which includes all Spanish tilded chars and signs like áíóéñ¡¿... I'm attaching the keyboard file. Is yours somehow expandable as well or could you produce a Spanish version of yours too? Currently the layout is in cpp sources, but it should not be a big problem to load it from external file - it's just array of chars. I'll try to make it for v45... Regards Radek___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko's new keyboard
Geat work Radek!!! Thanks a lot for that job coming!! Rafa --- On Tue, 5/8/12, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, while there was discussion about hw keyboard, i was working on software onscreen keyboard with simple goal: implement the best onscreen keyboard in the world. I think i am now very close ;-) The key is to have as big buttons as possible. Here is picture and video of how it looks now: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/keyboard.png http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyN7wS66y_I It still needs some more work, but it's currently very usable and i am really happy how it works. E.g. the video was taken with N900 in my left hand and still with the SMS layout i made no mistake. My plan for now is to finish it up and remove all those 5!! QtMoko input methods in favour of this one. I can make installable packages of the old methods if anyone is interested. This should be part of v45. For v46 i can try to implement customizable layouts and unicode characters. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NeoTools [Ubuntu]
Hi Travis, On Wednesday 09 May 2012 13:43:21 Travis Bachelder wrote: Oops forgot to change the subject. I'm trying to figure out how to download and install Neotools. When I go the this link http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool. It goes to what look like the code? I read somewhere that I can copy this to Gedit and use some terminal commands to install it. Am I missing something? You are not missing something, but as I recall from a previous post, you are new to using Ubuntu/Linux. If you come from MS Windows, I guess you are familiar with .bat batch files. The page you see at ~antisol/neotool is comparable to a batch script (with the difference of being more powerful etc, fill in Linux marketing ;-) ). To install you can follow (at least) two paths: - open the page in your web browser, copy the text and paste it in a text file, or - use the command line: wget http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool The second will get the file and put it in your current directory. To use the script, it has to be executable. Use chmod + x filename to add (+) execution rights (x) to the file. You would type at the command prompt chmod +x neotool , for example. After that, to run: ./neotool (or whatever name you gave it). It has some dependencies, which you probably installed after reading the wiki. The whole chat with your computer could look like (it's a bit of an artists impression, but should give you an idea): traba@rig:~/$ sudo apt-get install bash zenity which awk [sudo] password for traba: traba@rig:~/$ wget http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool --2012-05-09 21:25:56-- http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool Resolving users.on.net (users.on.net)... 203.16.214.120 Connecting to users.on.net (users.on.net)|203.16.214.120|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 25024 (24K) [text/plain] Saving to: `neotool' 100%[===] 25,024 35.0K/s in 0.7s 2012-05-09 21:25:58 (35.0 KB/s) - `neotool' saved [25024/25024] traba@rig:~/neo$ chmod +x neotool traba@rig:~/$ sudo ./neotool NeoTool v1.3, By Dale Maggee. (C) 2008. GNU GPLv3 Licensed. traba@rig:~/Downloads/pms-1.52.1$ Here it will give you a dialog box with options to flash your Neo, as shown on the wiki. In case of problems, you got the mailinglist at your disposal ;-) Good luck and have lots of fun with your Freerunner! Boudewijn smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko's new keyboard
great work! I am looking forward to updating qtmoko!! I don't know too much about virtual keyboards but I was wondering if the meego keyboard might offer some code to be reused: https://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] [ANN] GTA04 Keyboard prototype
On Monday 07 May 2012 15:44:00 Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, May 07, 2012 a las 03:31:11PM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller escribió: The idea is that the keyboard is integrated in the back battery cover. And if you remove it, both parts (main body and battery cover/keyboard) are connected through a small ribbon cable. I.e. you remove the keyboard, fold it by 180 degrees so that the keys show in the same direction as the display and you can us the display in landscape format. If that works out with the snap mechanism of the battery cover and/or if it needs some physical connection between both parts has to be worked out. I don't want to be negative (just reaistic), the list of disadvantages of such a solution (keyboard in battery cover, or with hinge) is: (..non-exhaustive...) ;-) 1) works only on desktop or table surface, i.e. not while walking or standing; I think we would (indeed) snap it to the body, and not fold it by 180 degrees, but more 250-ish. It would actually exclude usage on a surface, because the keyboard (+battery?) is too light to balance the phone without pressing it to that surface. 2) open the battery cover many more times (as for hard reset with battery lift) will break the case soon; While we're at it, we have to do some redesign at the case anyway, there might be place for a switch between the battery and the contact points. 3) you are forced to use landscape applications, while most of the apps today are in portait; That is, in many cases, for lacking a hardware keyboard. A browser window of 480x480 + 160x480 for the keyboard is often more handy than a larger keyboard of 160x640 and 320x640 left over for the application. (I'm not counting top bars and maybe a status bar, which indeed take more space in landscape than in portrait). Lacking reliable rotation on Freerunner, I must admit I have not often used applications in landscape; I remember some coping well, others not adjusting to the wider screen. 4) perhaps your battery will fall out (if not secured with something) in a lot of cases, esp. if it is the most important situation :-) ..cases, no pun intended? ;-) I guess we can come up with this securing something for the battery as well. Some cavity the battery slides into, or integration into the key module. to be continued... Yeah! Indeed ;-) With some luck, I'll have access (in a couple of months) to a 3d printer and can experiment with cases. To be continued... Boudewijn smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
