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2013-02-08 Thread Steve Merker
http://onewayauto.altervista.org/ycf2x5.php?s=lf


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Re:

2013-02-08 Thread shamsul hassan
is this a spam ???

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Steve Merker steven.mer...@gmail.comwrote:

 http://onewayauto.altervista.org/ycf2x5.php?s=lf


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Re:

2013-02-08 Thread Liz
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:25:53 +
shamsul hassan shamsulbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 is this a spam ???
 
 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Steve Merker
 steven.mer...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  http://onewayauto.altervista.org/ycf2x5.php?s=lf
 


If it looks like it, smells like it, sounds like it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test

So I told my Bayesian spam filter to note that mail as a positive.

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Re:

2013-02-08 Thread Marc Verwerft
I sure consider it spam.

On google you can find a multitude of references to 'altervista.org' :
**provaprovax123pr.*altervista*.*org*
computing.*altervista*.*org
*umanastudios*.altervista.org
*slotmachinedabar.*altervista*.*org
...

*This is also the first post of this guy on
comp.handhelds.openmoko.community*

*I don't trust it. *


*
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:25 AM, shamsul hassan shamsulbu...@gmail.comwrote:

 is this a spam ???

 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Steve Merker steven.mer...@gmail.comwrote:

 http://onewayauto.altervista.org/ycf2x5.php?s=lf


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Re: Re:

2013-02-08 Thread Gennady.Kupava
Hm, seems that the best way to spam is to send two mails - publish some
link in first mail and ask 'Is it a spam?' in a second =)

В Птн, 08/02/2013 в 11:40 +0100, Marc Verwerft пишет:
 I sure consider it spam.
 
 On google you can find a multitude of references to 'altervista.org' :
 provaprovax123pr.altervista.org
 computing.altervista.org
 umanastudios.altervista.org
 slotmachinedabar.altervista.org
 ...
 
 This is also the first post of this guy on
 comp.handhelds.openmoko.community
 
 I don't trust it. 
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:25 AM, shamsul hassan
 shamsulbu...@gmail.com wrote:
 is this a spam ???
 
 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Steve Merker
 steven.mer...@gmail.com wrote:
 spam here
 
 
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bt slide keyboard

2013-02-08 Thread Alfa21-mobile
do you know if there is something similar usable with gta?
http://www.usbgeek.com/collections/iphone/products/iphone5-case-slideout-keyboard

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Qtmoko v52-armhf : Issue to resume

2013-02-08 Thread Adrien Dorsaz
Hello!

I've noticed two issues when I resume my phone from suspend :

  * Sometimes my screen kept black and I'm only able to shut down my
phone with power button (I didn't have my computer at these
times, so I don't know if I was able to connect with ssh)
  * Sometimes the screen display the last qtmoko image with screen
lock, but it's stuck. Eg, now my screen dipslays 2pm (last
suspend I think), but here I'm at 3 pm now. The only one
interaction possible is to press Aux and see the ^@ strings
displayed.

My phone just fall in the second case and I was able to connect on it
with ssh.

I've just been able to discuss with Radeck on IRC and we had these
results :
top says me that qpe is using CPU between 10-25% (it's often at 25%).
ls -la /dev/ttyHS* command gives me : [1] (it seems ok).

I wanted to strace qpe and I've seen that it changes pid every 10
seconds, so it seems that qpe can't be runned correctly. So, I've
runned : strace -p `ps -A | grep qpe | grep -v qpe.sh | cut -d' ' -f1`
and saved it on my server [2]. There's a segfault at the end, maybe
that's the error.

[1] https://pbin.adorsaz.ch/?c523681d5489944d#KGZlFpPluvLdgI
+va6aITvj4hZg1pwKePoELnIqzulg=
[2] https://www.adorsaz.ch/public/strace_qpe.txt

HTH,
Adrien


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Re: GTA02: NavBoard V3 causing GPS interference

2013-02-08 Thread Pascal Gosselin


I have found a good reference on how to best handle I2C cabling. It's a 
PowerPoint Presentation from Texas Instruments, I made a screenshot of 
the relevant image:


http://s7.postimage.org/t9bfk47hn/Screen_Shot_2013_02_08_at_11_00_03_AM.png

As I suspected, only one end of the shield gets grounded, individual 
coaxes for SCL and SDA.


Google  I2C cable issues.ppt   to find the original document as the 
first hit.


Now I have to source some extremely tiny minature coax, ideally with a 
solid core (for easier soldering to the pads on the NavBoard and the 
GTA02). Looking for recommendations, ideally something I can order from 
Digi-Key, Newark or Mouser in smaller quantities (it's not like a need a 
1,000 foot roll!).


It's not clear IF the power supply wires should be shielded.  I think I 
will try to see if it makes a difference for the GPS.


-Pascal





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Re: GTA02: NavBoard V3 causing GPS interference

2013-02-08 Thread joerg Reisenweber
Am Friday 08 February 2013 17:10:00 schrieb Pascal Gosselin:
 I have found a good reference on how to best handle I2C cabling. It's a
 PowerPoint Presentation from Texas Instruments, I made a screenshot of
 the relevant image:

 http://s7.postimage.org/t9bfk47hn/Screen_Shot_2013_02_08_at_11_00_03_AM.png

 As I suspected, only one end of the shield gets grounded, individual
 coaxes for SCL and SDA.

 Google  I2C cable issues.ppt   to find the original document as the
 first hit.

 Now I have to source some extremely tiny minature coax, ideally with a
 solid core (for easier soldering to the pads on the NavBoard and the
 GTA02). Looking for recommendations, ideally something I can order from
 Digi-Key, Newark or Mouser in smaller quantities (it's not like a need a
 1,000 foot roll!).

 It's not clear IF the power supply wires should be shielded.  I think I
 will try to see if it makes a difference for the GPS.

 -Pascal

You should use fine pitch flat ribbon connector or flat plastic connector like 
on LCM, and shield it with a metal braid sticky tape, again like originally 
done in GTA02 LCM connection.
For further crosstalk and EMI shielding run a GND wire as every 1., 3. aso 
wire in your ribbon cable.

Ulrathin coax is *extremely* expensive and hard to source

/j

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Re: [Community] FOSDEM 2013 - World of OpenPhoenux

2013-02-08 Thread Lukas Märdian
Am 05.02.2013 11:50, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
 for those who did not attend, here are the first photos (most made by me
 and some by Lukas) and a movie is in preparation:
 
 http://www.openphoenux.org/images/

I've created a blog post with my impressions and some pictures, as well:
  http://blog.slyon.de/2013/02/08/fosdem-2013-impressions/

And I'm looking forward to watching the movie!

BR,
  Lukas



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Re: Qtmoko v52-armhf : Issue to resume

2013-02-08 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday, February 08, 2013 04:08:06 PM Adrien Dorsaz wrote:

 Hello!
 
 I've noticed two issues when I resume my phone from suspend :
 
   * Sometimes my screen kept black and I'm only able to shut down my
 phone with power button (I didn't have my computer at these
 times, so I don't know if I was able to connect with ssh)
   * Sometimes the screen display the last qtmoko image with screen
 lock, but it's stuck. Eg, now my screen dipslays 2pm (last
 suspend I think), but here I'm at 3 pm now. The only one
 interaction possible is to press Aux and see the ^@ strings
 displayed.

Hmm i guess we need to reproduce it somehow. Maybe automatic suspend resume 
cycles using rtc alarm could reproduce it - but IIRC i tried it and had no 
luck.

Btw i have been for some time running 3.7 kernel with debugfs mounted - maybe 
there is some different timing so that this problem is inhibited. You can try 
yourself. Just add somewhere in statup scripts (e.g. /opt/qtmoko/qpe.sh):

mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug

Regards

Radek

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Re: bt slide keyboard

2013-02-08 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 08 February 2013 16:03:14 Alfa21-mobile wrote:
 do you know if there is something similar usable with gta?
 http://www.usbgeek.com/collections/iphone/products/iphone5-case-slideout-key
 board

Bluetooth keyboards ought to work. I used to use a Stowaway with an old SHR 
image on GTA02 but I've not tried it on a recent release, or on qtmoko.

That's the first one I've seen with a slide mechanism. If that's what you want 
your best bet may be to make an adapter for the moko to clip into the iPhone 
footprint. How are your solid modelling skills? 

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Re: GTA02: NavBoard V3 causing GPS interference

2013-02-08 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 07.02.2013 um 14:36 schrieb Pascal Gosselin:

 
 Yesterday I was able to confirm that the installation of the Golden Delicious 
 NavBoard V3 very seriously degrades the performance of GPS when using the 
 built-in GPS antenna.  Getting a 3D fix is taking over 20 minutes on average 
 using the built-in GPS antenna.  When using an external GPS antenna, the 
 issue goes away and an unaided GPS cold start can be achieved in about 41 to 
 44 seconds.
 
 I suspect that the use of unshielded cabling between the GTA02 is a likely 
 cause.  Being in the Avionics business, I am familiar with the use of 
 shielded twisted pair wiring, but generally in large 22AWG (will have to 
 figure out where to source very thin STP cabling).  The wires we use to 
 perform this mod is solid core, probably 30 AWG.  In avionics, when it is 
 desired to keep a signal from radiating outside a cable (such as 
 Headphone/Microphone wiring), then the shield of only a single side of the 
 cable is terminated to a good grounding point.  When instead it is desired 
 that the signal inside a cable be protected from EMI/RFI from the outside, 
 then the shields on both sides of the cable will be terminated to ground.
 
 I theorize that only the SCL/SDA would need to be shielded (together in a 
 shielded twisted pair cable ?), Power and Ground may not need to be shielded.
 
 This issue seems very similar to the SD Card access/GPS issue of the earlier 
 GTA02s, so I also wonder if a capacitor fix should be looked at in this case 
 as well.

I am not aware that others have had such a problem but different cabeling may 
lead to different issues.

The key problem with the SD card access is/was that the SD/MMC interface runs 
at exactly 25.000 MHz and the clock signal switches fast. And 63 * 25.000 MHz = 
1575 MHz which is the center frequency of GPS. I.e. the 63th harmonic of the SD 
interface covers the very weak GPS signals in noise... Damping this SD clock by 
a 10pF capacitor reduces noise significantly.

For the Navigation board the communication is running through I2C. But I don't 
know the I2C clock frequency. It may be 400 kHz which would mean the 3937th 
harmonic which is quite unlikely to be the reason (because energy of harmonics 
goes down by the number).

So I rather would assume that the SD clock GND (or VCC) noise or something 
similar is brought too close to the GPS antenna.

Maybe Christoph has some additional hints.

BR,
Nikolaus


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