Re: FOSDEM 2011 Visitor's Guide
I cannot give any talks but planning to attend to FOSDEM, so count at least 4 Freerunners. On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Am 15.12.2010 um 11:38 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Is it possible that just 3 Free Runner's so far have plans to attend FOSDEM? On FOSDEM 2010 I did count at least 70 people crowding the (guest-) devroom. So what are your plans? Nikolaus Am 10.12.2010 um 18:01 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Ok, let me add a little more flesh to this thread. 1. FOSDEM takes place 5th/6th. of February 2011 in Brussels 2. all important Free and Open Source projects are there 3. There will be Main Track talks, Devrooms, Lightning talks and Stands * Embedded Devroom * Telephony Devroom * ... 4. I expect that several projects or individuals with less or more relation to Openmoko will present something So the idea proposed by David is that we collect every and all topics and activities related to Openmoko Hardware (Freerunner, GTA04, ...) and Software (Android, SHR, QtMoko, Debian, ...) on a single location. So let's show the world that we still believe that and why we need more freedom for phones than the iPhone or devices with preinstalled Android give us. And what we are doing for this target. So, please, consider submitting a Lightning talk or a talk for one of the Devrooms. -- hns Am 09.12.2010 um 18:02 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 31.10.2010 um 12:48 schrieb David Lanzendörfer: What do you think? A bit guerilla... But seems to be the only way. So lets do a presentation visitation guidline for OM-interested people. So here is a Wiki page. Now let's fill it with more information: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Fosdem_2011 Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Atilla Filiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Christmas offer Freerunner 199 eur
Awesome offer! Id the board free with a new Freerunner or with any order that is minimum X Euros? On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.dewrote: We are selling the Openmoko for 199 eur as special christmas offer. New boxed units, latest revision GTA02 A7 with buzz fix. In our shop you can find also free debug board and display protection with any order: http://www.pulster.eu Thanks, Chris Openmoko Shop www.pulster.eu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
About the case. Would GeeksphoneONE/Zeus case fit us? I know they have a sliding keyboards but maybe we can work something out. Even better, I would love to see a full keyboard on my Neo. On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 4:00 PM, W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.comwrote: --- On Sat, 11/13/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: (one series of problems) We could solve that by adding a jump start resistor. Then, we soldered the OMAP3530 and Pop Memory chip and connected RS232: http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/DSC00679.jpg It did identify itself as 40W on the RS232 (...) must fit into 64k SRAM built into the OMAP chip. So we are back to C64 times :) With this tool, we could identify that the (external) SDRAM (...) quite a long lead time. For the series version this will be very easy to fix. Un-be-lievable! Your updates read as detectives, I am looking forward to seeing the plot revolving and coming to a good end :-) Thanks again! Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
My gf runs Froyo on her Geeksphone. It has definitely more powerful hardware than FR but it is defeinitely /not/ 1GHz. It is around ~500MHz, and no 3d acceleration because the hardware vendor refused to deploy 3d firmware in an open device. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Serdar Dere ser...@serdar-dere.net wrote: Who asked my images are not real?? ;) The problem is, that Froyo ARMv5 optimized but not for ARMv4, that makes it hard for us. The other problem is, that Jim Ancona is our only developer. We are looking for developers. Everybody is welcomed to help (contribute, test etc.) MfG Serdar Am 03.09.10 11:12, schrieb Steven Le Roux: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Leonty Belskiyprishe...@gmail.com wrote: Is'n Froyo supposed to be super-fast? It's fast on a 1GHz processor with at least 512MB RAM and hardware acceleration of OpenGL, etc... V8 is embedded, but if you can't even run webkit... ;) I it faster than Cupcake? It's relative to the device. If a device have capabilities to run froyo, so yes it will be faster. But froyo won't run on the most lightweigh devices. And android 3 will run on devices with at least 2Ghz processor, etc... -- Leonty On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Le 01/09/2010 14:31, Atilla Filiz a écrit : AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/http://serdar-dere.net/%7Eserdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) Hi ! Of course the images are real (those 7Mo!). I flashed my FR with it, it boots, starts, and ... Worked ! Ok you have to be Really patient because of the slowlyness of the interface, but everything works ! -- Thomas HOCEDEZ / Asthro, Openmoko-fr.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Carrier in Belgium
Mobile Vikings seem cool. I wonder how their coverage is in Antwerpen. I think I'll try them. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would recommend Mobile Vikings if you want to use a bit of data, they are by far the cheapest. (and normal rates for text messages and calls) I use this carrier for my Freerunner this their website: (in English) https://mobilevikings.com/en/ https://mobilevikings.com/en/if you pay 15 euro you will get 2000 free SMS, and 2GB data (the free data and sms will expire after a month, but then you still have your 15 euro's which you can use for texts, calling or data) if you have any questions just let me know and i'll gladly answer them regards, y On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Hans Zimmerman h...@everlasting.bewrote: On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:36:44 +0200, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com wrote: (sorry for the duplicate) Hi list I am moving to Belgium in a couple of weeks and will buy a(probably prepaid) line from there. Can anyone tell which company plays well with FR hardware? I had problems with Vodafone NL before(GSM OK but no GPRS) also with Globul BG and I don't want this to happen again. -- Atilla I've been with Proximus all my life and have always been happy with the coverage, technical service. I do not use GPRS. Proximus is not the cheapest (as mentioned by others). Proximus is big so you are a number, I do not get frustrated by that, others do. Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Carrier in Belgium
(sorry for the duplicate) Hi list I am moving to Belgium in a couple of weeks and will buy a(probably prepaid) line from there. Can anyone tell which company plays well with FR hardware? I had problems with Vodafone NL before(GSM OK but no GPRS) also with Globul BG and I don't want this to happen again. -- Atilla ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.comwrote: On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/http://serdar-dere.net/%7Eserdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] GTalk
Use one of these as an example configuration: http://www.google.com/support/chat/bin/topic.py?hl=entopic=24670 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Hike marco.castor...@yahoo.it wrote: Dear all, I'm a more than satisfied user of the FR with QtMoko (v24): I can make and receive calls/SMS with no problems, access WiFi and get GPS data. The last thing I'd like to achieve is to login to GTalk; I read on QtMoko main page that it should be possible using mqutIM with the support of Jabber. Is this true? If so, how should configure it in to have it working? I already configure GTalk in the setting section of QtMoko, but nothing's changed. Thanks a lot! Marco -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-GTalk-tp5326786p5326786.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Geeksphone one has realeased the source code of the kernel
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Re: [gta02-core] Openmoko Beagle Hybrid
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.orgwrote: However, you may also want to consider making the parts directly, without going via a cast. This is much more expensive for larger quantities, but if you only need a handful of cases anyway, it should be more efficient. The alternative would be 3D-Printing. There are now some quite good machines that can produce in ABS. Unfortunately these machines are rather expensive and operators want to have fast amortization. This raises cost of small quantities of cases like the freerunner well beyond 100 USD. Have you contacted any hackerspaces? Check this non-exhaustive list http://harkopen.com/hackerspaces -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner with Debug board and spare front and middle casing for sale
May I only buy the debug board? On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Dina0312 dandy_and...@hotmail.com wrote: 20GBP? Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:34:18 -0800 From: ml-node+4750972-37178101-383...@n2.nabble.comml-node%2b4750972-37178101-383...@n2.nabble.com To: dandy_and...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Freerunner with Debug board and spare front and middle casing for sale On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Dina0312 [hidden email] wrote: I have a... Freerunner, debug board, spare front and middle casing charger and with the lovely black sleek original box how much do you want for that front casing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community View message @ http://n2.nabble.com/Freerunner-with-Debug-board-and-spare-front-and-middle-casing-for-sale-tp4749631p4750972.html To unsubscribe from Freerunner with Debug board and spare front and middle casing for sale, click here. _ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freerunner-with-Debug-board-and-spare-front-and-middle-casing-for-sale-tp4749631p4753256.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My surplus FreeRunner score!
Hmm, nice deal you had there. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Hello FreeRunners, I just bought the following for 150 USD + UPS Ground shipping to Washington from SDG Systems in Pennsylvania: * 5x GTA02A6 (4 GSM 850, 1 GSM 900) with buzzfix * 5x earphones * 5x travel cases * 5x batteries * 2x or 3x chargers No MicroSD cards, though, but those are cheap. The catch? The FreeRunners were returned by customers because the microphones do not work. I still think 30 USD each for handheld (Debian) Linux computers is an excellent deal, though: how else can I buy a handheld Linux computer with so much functionality for only 30 USD? I can still try using a wired or wireless (Bluetooth) headset instead of the handset too. Brolin -- Sometimes I forget how to do small talk: http://xkcd.com/222/ “If you have to ask why, you’re not a member of the intended audience.” — Bob Zimbinski, http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Re: gender-neutral English usage
Something I love about Turkish language, almost nothing is gender specific, and it is hard to be so. The only common gender specific words are the ones describing family relations. We have very precise words for sister of father or so but as I said, gender is irrelevant for the rest. In German, not only words related to people, but words themselves have genders, which I find annoying. The most funny example I remember is Das Meer(sea, neutral), Die See(sea, feminine), Der See(lake masculine). Doktor is normally male, but can be used as (implicitly) female, and the use is widely accepted. However, most words can be made explicitly female - doktor would become doktorka. The most famous example of the latter is psycholog and psycholożka (psychologist), which are accepted by the Polish Language Board, but sound extremely cheesy in my opinion. This is similar in Bulgarian, as all professions are male by default, and have female counterparts. Objects also have genders, and they are made plural etc. depending on their gender. Oops, I think this thread is drifting away, sorry. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
No and no. Primarily call quality was never satifying, mostly for the other side. Echo is too annoying. Also phone is unreliable because of WSOD. I use my FR as my hacking toy.My primary distro is H:1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Still yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? Debian unstable. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? The largest issue currently is sound quality during call. I have managed to get rid of buzz and echo but sometimes people complain that they can't hear what I am saying and sometimes the sound is amplified so much that it gets distorted. I have not been able to identify why this behavior seems to change. Current solution is just to make sure that the amplification is so low that no distortion happens and then use a quick icewm menu entry to up the volume if other side seems to suffer from the can't hear you very loudly issue. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v15
Can I upgrade my NAND image(from v14) without a fresh install? On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:11 AM, ghislain ghisl...@basetrend.nl wrote: Radek, When trying to build QtMoko V15 myself I get the following error: qtmoko/qt/src/corelib/io/qfsfileengine_unix.cpp:1286: error: ‘QT_MMAP’ was not declared in this scope How did you compile it? Or is this problem solved with the upstream patches of QT 4.6.1? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-v15-tp4159253p4162870.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to collaborating?;-) I have no CAD knowledge but I am interested in some form of dock, maybe some electrical talk, and willing to donate some cash for your expenses. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] New keyboard: t9brain
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:47 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: i strongly discourage the use of t9 in the name. I second this. It is a trademark, might get you into trouble. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
An active one, with a usb Y-cable which can charge the neo while using in host mode, that is something worth having. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Laszlo KREKACS schrieb: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:54 PM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I think the full screen issues is just some temporary xfce issue. Actually I just switched LCD to QVGA mode, not XFCE itself. Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email Sure, I'm interested in that. But it is needed to design a CAD model. I may try to make one if I have enough spare time. Then I'll email you. Or you may help with designing too? Im a beginner too (in CAD modelling). I imagine the workflow something like this: you model it, I print it. Then I post pictures of the print, how is it looks like on the freerunner, where are the design faults, and printing faults. Then we fix it, and print again. And again, and again. As far as modelling is concerned, this is the open source toolbox: - blender - openscad - qcad - inkscape Inkscape is great for the logo for example (import it into blender, extrude it, etc). qcad +openscad is great for accurate modelling. qcad for 2d, openscad for 3d (extruding 2d, boolean it, etc). I assume you meant a separate case for gamepad addon, but it also would be great (as arne anka said) to have a full replacement gaming case for Freerunner, or at least a LCD cover with integrated buttons. As arne have asked too, I own a reprap machine. So there are some limitations, namely: - the printing process is achieved layer-by-layer printing. About 0.5mm layers, so you can feel them with your nail. At least 2 layers required to really bond together. - some postprocessing is required, polishing the plastic, to get rid of the layers, and have a better look - no overhangs less then 45 degree. (ie. I cant print a standing letter T because, there is nothing under the top part of the T. Or the roof of the house. (ie. four walls plus the roof). So summing up, we need at least 2mm thickness. So printing out the original case is impossible, because it has less then 1mm of wall thickness. But for prototyping, or having a gamepad, what you posted does not impose such a strict limitation. So nobody really care if it is 3mm or 5mm thick. Here is a picture to get an idea about printing quality (I printed an iphone docking station for my friend): http://sites.google.com/site/laszlokrekacs/reprap/iphone2_k.jpg Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to collaborating?;-) With which software do you design the dockingstation? I have some experience with blender. If you use it, I could help. and I can print you one if you are in EU. (im sure we can figure out how to ship to worldwide) I'm not in EU. Ok we arrange it somehow. (or having electrical board in return;-) Of course ;) Great! Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD4DBQFLISkvlYiDScJJ+7QRAsn6AKCVeH6Hr8ZFcYe22qk+e1cQedmXAgCVHG+d N/MFqOOmxdqSHlgVqV//9g== =Yp5z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
Great hack, great design. Now we need some games to play. Congratulations. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04 PM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8VRABmJKSw This is AWESOME. The game ran smoothly, the buttons didnt had any lags. Just works. Its really stunning. I think the full screen issues is just some temporary xfce issue. So the goal is really having the DOS games in full screen mode. But other than that, it is ... Ahh, I just cant find the words for this. Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email, and I can print you one if you are in EU. (im sure we can figure out how to ship to worldwide). Of course at no cost. (or having electrical board in return;-) Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
I might be interested in even buying such a thing.(a plastic case for the joypad add-on) On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email, and what kind of 3d case? it would be awesome to get an fr case that already includes the controller (maybe simply the back?). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?
vehicle road test on 2010-01-22 because there is a new and incredibly illogical law in British Columbia starting on 2010-01-01 that drivers with a Class 7 passenger vehicle driver’s licence, such as me, cannot use electronic devices, including road navigation systems, while driving because they are “too distracting”. Reality check: which is more distracting: looking away from driving to read a paper map or driving directions, or not looking away from driving because the road navigation system speaks to me so I do not need to look at its display? I do not use cell phones while driving because I know I cannot focus sufficiently on driving if I am trying to have a conversation with someone else in my car, so how could I have a conversation with someone via a cell phone while driving? I always pull over and stop before using a cell phone. Brolin -- Sometimes I forget how to do small talk: http://xkcd.com/222/ “If you have to ask why, you’re not a member of the intended audience.” — Bob Zimbinski, http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Do you want buy cheap Dboard ? ( maybe cheapest ) -- imergancy
Where are you and how much do you want for the goodies? I'm interested in the poach and the dboard. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM, dehqan65 dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Good day everyone ; KD85.com ships Freerunner A7 with Dboard , wired headset , and pouch in 235 Euro , but i humble dont need Dboard ,pouch, wired headset and he said : if you dont want dboard someone esle should buy it and he can not take dboard for himself alone. Does anyone want buy dboard or pouch or wired headset Or all three together in cheap price ? If yes i humble am in A hurry , so please email me The nearest time . Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Making Geek's phone not so offtopic on this list ;)
That will be a dream come true(well, almost). On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:18 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! 2009/11/19 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: If it's better hardware than the Freerunner and with free software drivers, then I'm surely interested :) Thats the question, that is more powerfull is sure, but our first stesp is to see how many of this drivers are free and does that doesnt how hard is to make them free. Regards Best, Rui On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:06:59AM +0100, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: Dear list, I was talking with the Geek's phone CEO we agreed a couple of intersting things , In a couple of days we will receive some final prototypes of the final version of ONE We will work together to open as far the hardware of the phone, first step is obtaining the BOM list of the chipsets included on the ONE, to evaluate how difficult will be to port the actual kernel used to run Android to one to use for example SHR,QtMoko, or any other :) Until the prototypes arrives and/or the we obtain the BOM I would like hear from you any question you believe is useful to be answered, other requeriments to achieve make run a GNU/Linux distribution on this hardware. Also if someone is already interested to do serious hacking on the device please contact me personally or through this list and I will try to make you arrive one of this unit, as you can understand if we receive more colaboration proprosal than devices available we must do a selection, so please don't blame us to much if you can't recieve a unit at first attempt :P Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Fun]Pipboy2009 first alpha prototype(v0.01)
This prototype was developed with every DIYer's favourite disposable, duct tape. http://img410.yfrog.com/i/17112009m.jpg/ The setup needs further optimisation, as the tape is not strong enough to hold the device in place, and the device should be moved more to the back so it doesn't obstruct wrist movement. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fun]Pipboy2009 first alpha prototype(v0.01)
A quick search yielded I'm not the only one with the inspiration for creating a PipBoy. I thought I would find a replica from fallout3 collector's edition but it's bulky and not so cheap(~100$ on ebay). There are already a couple of wearables in the market but I want to do this just for fun, and with my FR. And yes, the distro is Hackable:1 rev5rc1. On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 17:25, Tony McKeehan mck...@rpi.edu wrote: He's using rev5rc1 of Hackable:1. It's based on 2007.2, but much more advanced. It's not an FSO-based distro, but the devs say that they'll convert it to FSO by the time rev6 comes out. -Tonym Sorry then... I forgot about hackable:1 :) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[GTA02v5] NL Vodafone GPRS problem
Did anyone try to use GPRS connection with Vodafone NL? My FR connects well with a sim card of TR Turkcell but fails to connect to NL Vodafone with Neovento. I tried with Hackable rev5, GPRS app says child process returned error code 16. Anyone with similar experience? -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [For Sale] Freerunner w/ buzz fix and lots of accessories
Where do you live? On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Steven ** montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.commontgoss%2bopenmokocommun...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember if this is a GTA02v5 or v6. I got it release day, so it's probably a v5. Buzz fix was applied by a tech at my work (not an official company service). a href=http://img689.imageshack.us/i/2009111400resized.jpg/; target=_blankimg src=http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/355/2009111400resized.th.jpg; border=0//aa href=http://img199.imageshack.us/i/20091114220132resized.jpg/; target=_blankimg src=http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1244/20091114220132resized.th.jpg; border=0 //aa href=http://img690.imageshack.us/i/20091114221653resized.jpg/; target=_blankimg src=http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/6507/20091114221653resized.th.jpg; border=0//a Includes original accessories: * A/C Power Cord with adapters * Original Openmoko battery * Micro USB cable * Wired headset * Stylus/pen/laser/light * Openmoko brand carrying pouch * Original packaging Plus after-market accessories: * 2 x 8GB micro-SD cards (A-Data brand, verified compatible) * 2.5mm to 3.5mm stereo audio adapter (don't know if the mic connection passes through, but I have tested with standard 3.5mm headphones) * Female USB to male micro-USB adapter * Extra micro USB cable * Invisible Shield screen protector (still in box, not applied to screen) * 3 x mini stylus (COWON D2 stylus) All for $200 or best offer. -Steven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OffTopic]Geek'sPhone: New android actor?
I stumbled up http://www.geeksphone.com/en/ today, featuring a new Android based device from Spain. The device is called ONE, anagram of NEO. Although the feature set seems nice, they don't seems to care much about openness, and don't deserve the Geek's title(or do they?). -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness
Thanks Xavier, for stopping what was going to be a flamefest. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote: DJDAS a écrit : It never NEVER worked in an acceptable manner in EVERY my desktop system since 4 years (with nVidia graphics cards, not GLAMO or Freerunner), Compiz+XFCE are light-years way faster and optimized than that E's bunch of uncommented and always-in.beta (and not standards compliant) code... Please don't fool our brains and simply admit you are not able to work on embedded systems as on desktop (and personally I've got some doubts even on this). I beg to differ, your personal experience is not mine (E17 being damn fast comparing to xfce). E17 is fuck**g fast on limited hardware. I can't accept to read something like my code is highly optimized BUT as you have a shi**y device you cannot run on it unless you deactivate all its featuresgo work in Micro$oft and write their optimized Aero GUI pretending to work on a 10Ghz quadcore Cray processor with 1TB RAM and 4 graphics card Be serious please... I think you miss the point : - qtmoko/qtopia is pretty because of good skin and good uniformity - qt in qtmoko is very simple (for example no transparency, no fancy controls...) - E17 as used in shr/om200x uses more advanced things than qt in QtMoko - E17 as used in shr/om200x is not as pretty as qt in qtmoko (well done qtopia team !) If you put the same things in both qt and E17 -- for example if you try to mimic qtmoko gui with E17 and if you disable everything in E17 that is useless in order to produce qtmoko gui-- E17 will be faster. A fast FR means a simple GUI and QtMoko is simple and pretty... I would say it's well balanced indeed, it fits well the FR. But E17 displaying same simple gui controls would be faster, no doubt. Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Please wait... (WAS: [QtMoko] Calling problems)
When I boot into QtMoko v14 without a sim card(and sometimes with a sim card) The home screen gets stuck at PIN dialog, saying Please wait... I can hold the AUX button and run applications by adding them to my favourites first, but when I try to go home, I go to the Please wait... screen. I think this is connected to the calling problem somehow. I didn't have time to try with a sim card again, as I keep my only sim card(Vodafone NL) in my other phone. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:11 PM, ghislain ghisl...@basetrend.nl wrote: Radek Polak wrote: Definitely it should be there. Btw do you have latest gsm firmware? In System info the modem should display Revision: gsm_acts0-Moko11 That's not entirely true, I have a SIM-card (Vodafone, prepaid, NL) which if used under QtMoko it does'nt show the modem-info. The SIM-card works correctly, I can make phonecalls, receive calls, send / receive SMS, use GPRS etc, but there is no info under the modem-tab. When I use another SIM (KPN-NL) on the same phone, I can see the modem-info. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-Calling-problems-tp3844430p3858530.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Calling problems
Yes, I see my A5 modem there, without my simcard. I didn't try looking there with simcard yet. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.comwrote: That wasn't the case with me. My FR didn't respond for about 20 seconds, and it wasn't suspended. I also couldn't call other pnoes, 3 times in a row. Something seems wrong with the modem. Ok. Does your modem show up in Applications - System Info (under the Modem tab)? -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiple Distro's..
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote: And which is the most preffered for starting developement. I think hackable:1 is the east one to get started. It comes with a gcc environment installed. They also released a ready-to-go build environment where you can just untar and chroot and start hacking. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Calling problems
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just tried calling (FR to other phone) it works. To be on the safe side, I tried calling the FR (from other phone) again, this time it works.(I tried it several times). It seems that the FR is a bit slow to react; after I have pressed the answer button, it takes a second or two before the screen on the FR is updated. That wasn't the case with me. My FR didn't respond for about 20 seconds, and it wasn't suspended. I also couldn't call other pnoes, 3 times in a row. Something seems wrong with the modem. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] Calling problems
Hello; I flashed QtMoko v14 yesterday and tried to talk. When I am called, I tap to answer, but the other side keeps getting the ringing tone and no connection is made. When I try to call somebody, my phone tries to call indefinitely, but the other side never rings. Did anyone have similar experience? -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[brainstorm]Online contact sync
Hello; I was thinking about storing my contact list online. I don't feel comfortable giving my contacts' phone numbers to google or someone else. Instead, we can open a repository(possibly svn/git based) to store contacts online. Before sending contact info, the phone will encrypt the data(vcard?) with gpg for the owner's self. Of course sending vcards to people you know is not very hard once you get their public keys. I think I can work something out with python, but I don't know which distros have vcard integration. What do you think? -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [brainstorm]Online contact sync
I don't know others but I occasionally switch distros and have multiple computers. I thought different people might be in the same condition. I actually don't how many people use Google contacts, but it's there. On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote: I'm not clear what you mean. Why do you want your contacts to be online? Neil -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta2v5] WiFi quit working
Both distros have wifi-on/off buttons that give the necessary commands to turn wifi power off and on. Some time ago, they just did not work. I didn't do anything special, other than occasionally rebooting. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:33 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: when did it work the last time and what happend since then? i have no ideas about neovento or hackable (except knowing, the exist) -- what kernel do they use and how is wifi managed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta2v5] WiFi quit working
hmm, it magically started working again, after two weeks. Suspending might have worked, i really haven't any idea. Thanks for the suggestion. On 9/11/09, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: This may sound weird - but try suspending and unsuspending a few times. For a while with shr-u I'd see that there was no eth0 device, and that enabling it failed, but after suspending and unsuspending a few times it'd come back... If that fails, I'd suggest trying out shr-u - recently wifi has been a bit more reliable for me. good luck! On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.comwrote: Both distros have wifi-on/off buttons that give the necessary commands to turn wifi power off and on. Some time ago, they just did not work. I didn't do anything special, other than occasionally rebooting. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:33 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: when did it work the last time and what happend since then? i have no ideas about neovento or hackable (except knowing, the exist) -- what kernel do they use and how is wifi managed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?
My personal experience as a soially disfunctional geek is typically avoiding people just to avoid awkward greetings with people I barely know, but have nothing to say besides simple hello. Moreover, I hate socializing on IRC or MMORPGs , talking with random people I will never meet. Mailing lists and newsservers are great as I can properly write(and receive back properly written) messages to(from) people I share common interests(OM group is not random people). Keep beeing happy and stay behind your computer. Thats what I should have done from the beginning. I don't agree with this. Life is full of adventures, and trying to speak with girls, and failing big time is one of them. I have a small number of close friends, and all the rest of my peers are either people I know through them or people I work with. I met my girlfriend at the university, she's not as geeky as me but we have small set of common interests(engineering, science fiction, technology ...). She was one of my friend's classmates. I was so shy that I told her I like her by typing on my cell phone and making her read it. And guess what, it worked! We are together for 7 years now. So go ahead and live your adventure, get your heart broken, repair it, and get it broken again. PS: I like off topic messages in groups like these as long as they are not very common and properly marked as OT. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Gta2v5] WiFi quit working
Hi list; My FR's wifi connection no longer works. 'iwlist scan' always prints the resource unavailable message, the one when wifi power is off. My NAND distro Neovento claims wifi is on but it isn't. And on my SD distro, Hackable1, I click 'enable wifi', when it should turn in to 'turn off wifi' button, it stays the same. And the same 'resource temporarily unavaliable' thing. Any ideas? -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[slightly off-topic]
Hi list Dis anyone try any hack/mod for attaching neo to arm? Like PipBoy2000. My ideas usually include duct tape, which is unpleasant for both your neo and your arm. happy hacking atilla ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[hackable1]Suspend and gps
Dear list I have a stock Hackable1 install on my 4GB uSD. I couldn't find how to suspend my FR. apm -s seems to lock the device, unlockable only by removing the battery. Also couldn't get a fix. I turned on my FR, launched Tangogps and left it next to my window. After about half an hour, satellite info was like 2/0/0.0 . Neovento launched from NAND gets a fix in 3-4 minutes at the very same location. What are other hackable1 users' experiences on these? happy hacking -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debug board for non-neo devices
So according to schematics, there is NOR WP pin at H-TP4711. The component placement sheet shows it as T-HP7711, as there are no 4711s(hardware revision?). What I need is to short this pin to the ground while my Neo is running, and run the flash script. Is that correct? Seems easy enough. Happy hacking Atilla On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:05 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: 2009/7/29 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com writes: Wow, I didn't know that, I haven't seen it on wiki but will keep researching. Thanks for the info, you may have just saved my precious student $s. I don't think it's mentioned anywhere. Probably it even shouldn't be so those who don't understand it themselves don't try and brick their devices. The information is obvious from looking at NOR reflashing instructions [1] and FR schematics [2]. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_NOR The link to the NOR images http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/images/20080321_gta02_rc1/ on the wiki page don't work any one has a downloable NOR image ready to flash? [2] http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/GTA02/ -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to suspend Hackable1
Of the many distros I tried, I really fell in love with H1. but I coudn't figure out how to make it suspend. apm -s makes it totally lock. How do we make a stock H1 sleep? Auto suspend is good but manual is also enough. Also can GPS re-fix after waking up? Happy hacking -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debug board for non-neo devices
Wow, I didn't know that, I haven't seen it on wiki but will keep researching. Thanks for the info, you may have just saved my precious student $s. On 7/28/09, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com writes: My Neo FR came with blank Nor and there seems no one close to me to help me flash it, so I decided to buy a debug board. I'm not planning to do any low level debugging on neo, but may use UART/JTAG for other devices. Is the board handy for other devices? Did anyone use it for any non-neo device? Can this be used with GP2X(assuming I can take care of wiring) so I don't need a pc with parallel port? FYI you don't need a debug board to flash NOR if you can already boot your FR. It's a matter of shorting one easily accessible TP to the ground. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Hello; Is it possible to ask for any other minor fix along with debuzzing? My device came with blank NOR and I don't want to buy a debug board just to use once. I don't mind paying a few extra €s. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
WPA2 Enterprice, Was: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device
I'm in TU Eindhoven, we use wpa2 enterprise for wireless security. I used
wpa_supplicant.conf like this:
network={
ssid=tue-wpa2
key_mgmt=WPA-EAP
eap=PEAP
identity=my-indentity
password=my-secret
}
and run
wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
then
dhclient eth0
for getting network configuration
Probably all you need is correct parameters in the conf file.
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Jim Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca
wrote:
He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying
that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put
in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units).
You've just convinced me that, unless this changes, no OpenMoko with 3G
will get my money as far as I'm concerned :)
IIUC there's no hope on the horizon to get a non-closed phone device
(whether 2G as in the FR, or any other cell-phone technology), so that
the 3G part would be closed is not any different from the closedness of
the GSM/GPRS in the FR.
I.e. it would suck, but not more than what we already have.
How about wifi? My impression is that the closed nature of the Atheros
firmware has been a large part of the wifi issues with the GTA02,
despite Werner's and others' hard work. I still can't connect to my
work network (WPA2 Enterprise/hidden SSID). Has anyone has gotten WPA2
Enterprise to work?
Jim
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Re: A solution for multiple routes (usb0+eth0)
An elegant solution for an annoying problem. Thank you. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.nowrote: Bringing up one interface creates a default route, which is necessary no matter which interface is used. Bringing up both interfaces makes two default routes, and there is the risk that the phone ends up using the slower interface which obviously is a problem. I set up /etc/network/interfaces like this, adapted from SHR: auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 gateway 192.168.0.200 metric 1 up echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 /etc/resolv.conf up echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 /etc/resolv.conf The metric does the trick. When usb0 is the only interface, the usb0 route gets used as usual. If some other interface comes up (in my case, eth0) then that one gets a default route too, but that default route comes up with the default metric of 0. So, the eth0 default route is seen as shorter, and is preferred over usb0 when both are available. Which is good, as eth0 is faster. So, no need to delete the usb0 default route when bringing up other interfaces, with the associated problem of restoring the usb0 route when the other interface goes away. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debug board to borrow
My FR has a blank NOR, so I am unable to change my bootloader and have to live with the fear of bricking it. I don't want to pay €100 for the debug board just because OM sent me a faulty device. So I am asking if someone near Eindhoven(Netherlands) has the debug board and willing to help me flash my NOR. I found someone from the University but somehow we lost contact. My offer is treating a lunch in exchange for helping with his/her debug board to flash my FR. For the rest of people, sorry for bothering you. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is it possible to keep ASU Enlightenment profile...
I don't want to go off topic but is it possible to use matchbox keyboard under Enlightenment(specifically, under 2008.x of course)? On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:39:19 -0800 Vasili Sviridov vsviri...@exceede.com babbled: Daniel Nöthen wrote: I want to keep ASU profile because if i switch to illume it keeps segfaulting at random actions and intervals... I don't know how to use the illume keyboard on ASU. But to stop illume segfaulting all the time you need to set the the Engine from SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE in the wrench-menu. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I'll try the SOFTWARE fix. Thanks. Yeah, I've looked into in, and since Illume is E's module with keyboard integrated it'd be impossible to use it standalone. That brings the question - why such a coupled design?? it's more efficient. starts faster. uses less ram. re-uses buts of e's core to save duplication of work and it just was easier. but its available any time if u use e +illume - it just may have been made very hard to access by system integrators. if u want to use illume's keyboard outside of e - well you can't. but if u have e (and the illume module) you can. it's lurking there waiting to be turned on. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
In Turkey, our numbers are 7 digit excluding area codes. If you're calling within your city you tell the number as ### ## ## If it is an inter-city call, you dial 0*** ### ## ## where *** is the city code. Mobile numbers also have three digit codes like they are different cities. Finally, if you dial into Turkey from abroad, you dial +90 *** ### ## ## But when I'm abroad, or telling the number to somebody in English, I tell it digit by digit. On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.netwrote: For the thread that could be a mailing list on its own: I've noticed a funny effect on reading out numbers in different languages. I'm from the Netherlands and here we say 'eight-and-twenty' (achtentwintig) for the number 28. In English, you'd say twenty-eight. This reverse reading is also in German, but not in French. It differs from language to language. After spending half a year in an English speaking country, I noticed that after I came back I had difficulties writing down numbers like this when someone said them to me. This audio-to-written-conversion task was difficult for my brain since it was confused whether to use the English or Dutch reading. I experienced this not only with telephone numbers but also when writing down numbers from laboratory test in university when someone else would read out the measurements of the devices. However, paying in a shop when someone would read out the price of something is not a problem at all. I asked more people that stayed abroad for a longer period of time where a language is spoken that also interchanges the reading of the numbers, if they had the same challenges and some did. So when someone says to me, my (eight digit) telephone number is twenty-eight thirty-four ninety-seven fifty-four, for me, this is not brain friendly and usually I asked them to read it out like two eight, etcetera. However, when I have to remember a short number of four digits, like a postcode, e.g. twenty-four ninety-five, I have no problem, because this is mapped into the money domain, just like a price of something. The tell sell doctrine. ;) Do some of you have the same experience? I would like to suggest not to use this in reading out telephone numbers, even though this might be your national way of writing/saying these things. Usually there is not a sound information ergonomic reason behind it. More the history of how the numbers grew larger in a certain country. The brain is perfectly capable of remembering longer groups of digits. Take for example 2314 7869 this is faster and easier processed by the brain than 23 14 78 69 Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
uSD read fails
I bought a cheap 2GB uSD card and tried installing Debian, and later, Hackable distros on it. Kernel seem to load but somewhere in the boot process, I start getting I/O faults indefinitely. Debian worked at first but then started doing this. Is there a way to test my card for bad sectors etc? I haven't tried reducing clock rate from u-boot yet but it seems irrelevant. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Switching profile put the qwerty button there but the keyboard was still the predictive one, without any switch buttons. Also the theme frequently crashes the X server so i switched back to ASU On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Vadim, Efimov eva...@evadim.ru wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:54:03 +0300, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com wrote: For some reason, that wiki does not work for me. I start with an 'opkg update' and give all the commands in the wiki, after X restart, nothing happens. No QWERTY button, no wrench icon, no keyboard choice. Am I the only one going insane? you switch profile from ASU to illume in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile ? qwerty button present only in illume theme by default. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reliable application for accelerometers?
As far as I know, such an application doesn't exist, but easy to write your own. You just read acc. values from /dev/something On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:42 AM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Hi everyone. I'd need to be able to record accelerometers values and graph them later. The measure should last around 30 minutes. Can anyone recommend an application for that? Thanks in advance. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
For some reason, that wiki does not work for me. I start with an 'opkg update' and give all the commands in the wiki, after X restart, nothing happens. No QWERTY button, no wrench icon, no keyboard choice. Am I the only one going insane? On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Vadim, Efimov eva...@evadim.ru wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:12:54 +0300, Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: Samuel Pereira schrieb: Hi, Try this, Turn off built-in qtopia keyboard add export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia The testing image dont have this disabled. Samuel was one of the first things i did... i don't know what happened, but now its gone (rebooted again, now when i choose no virtual keyboard in illume config, the qtopia keyboard is gone, don't aks me why, but now i'm happy) thx to everyone for the quick replies i'm put export ... line in ~/.profile it work without any strange settings. cat /home/root/.profile export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 works only after reboot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Service commands
Is there any work towards using service commands(maybe i'm using the wrong term here). By service command I mean I can call *100# to learn the balance on my prepaid account. I tried this both on zhone(Debian) and qt dialer(2008.8, QTX), none seemed to work. Is this a complicated task or am I the only one missing it? -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Service commands
It doesn't seem to work for me in QTEx 4.4.2(i thought this was .1) Thank you for the reply. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Clemens Dörrhöfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Atilla Filiz wrote: Is there any work towards using service commands(maybe i'm using the wrong term here). By service command I mean I can call *100# to learn the balance on my prepaid account. I tried this both on zhone(Debian) and qt dialer(2008.8, QTX), none seemed to work. Is this a complicated task or am I the only one missing it? -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I had problems with the 2007.2 but it works fine with 2008.9 qt dialer. Sometimes it takes a while until the screen shows up. But then I see a message with my balance. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Service commands
Are these Dbus signals? I am not familiar with the framework. Thanks On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Wednesday 10 December 2008 22:27:38 schrieb Atilla Filiz: Is there any work towards using service commands(maybe i'm using the wrong term here). By service command I mean I can call *100# to learn the balance on my prepaid account. I tried this both on zhone(Debian) and qt dialer(2008.8, QTX), none seemed to work. FSO infrastructure is there, just use org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.SendUssdRequest() and then listen for the signal org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.IncomingUssd(). Is this a complicated task or am I the only one missing it? Not complicated, but zero time to work on Zhone... I would appreciate a patch. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rotate single application
It seems the most feasible solution is to ask the developer of the application for a self-rotating mode. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:12 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:53:01 + Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thursday 27 November 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:04:03 +0300 Alexander Chemeris [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:39 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:43:49 +0300 Alexander Chemeris [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Bernd Prünster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Chemeris schrieb: Is there any possibility to rotate screen for a selected application? Now I use xrandr -o 1 app xrandr -o 0 to run application in landscape mode, but this rotates screen for the whole system. I rather want to rotate single application window. sure it is, just make shellscript which does the rotation, then launches the application an then rotates tzhe screen back. you can also change the keycode for the aux button just for one application in the same way! (just look at the scummvm wiki page if you want to have a good example!) That's exactly what I'm doing - xrandr -o 1 app xrandr -o 0 But this change screen orientation for the whole X. If you tap on the top, choose Home, you'll see it also rotated. What I'm asking for is an ability to rotate a single aplpication, leaving illume and other apps in portrait orientation. Btw, thanks for pointing to ScummVM, I should try this. :) you will need to make the app itself handle its own rotated drawing. it's up to the app. That's what I expected. I wonder why there are still no such feature in illume. A handful of applications want this. nothing to do with illume. this is x. apps draw their own window contents and handle their own window even inputs. the app would need to rotate its own draws and translate all input even co-ordinates. I was thinking of a window manager plugin that applies rotation when the window is activated. Compiz can apply many of its effects selectively according to application (window name?) so I'm guessing wildly that calling an xrandr setting by name on change of active window should be possible. Then again I know nothing abut the internals of window managers... that would require xevie (so every mouse event go through the compositor and it can try translate (rotate them), so you will add more latency to mouse events), and compositing (which will slow down rendering as all rendering now has to happen to a backing pixmap) AND you will not have accelerated rotates/transforms as xrender is unaccelerated on glamo - so your output will become nice and slow... really slow. as such you could selectively rotate thew WHOLE screen if a particular window is focused, but e has no such code - a module could be written that does just that. but then the keyboard, top-bar etc. will also rotate. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
mp3 is also a lossy format. so other formats are not lower quality. The thing is, converting from one format to another is also a lossy operation itself. So if you convert an ogg music to mp3, you may also end up with slightly worse file. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Dylan Semler [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On this note, can anybody point me to a piece of software which will mass-convert all my mp3s to ogg at the press of a button? It would need to preserve all my ID3 Tags etc. We're talking thousands of files / gigabytes of data here... Be aware though, that due to the lossy nature of these formats, no matter what encoding settings you choose, this will always result in lower quality music than your mp3s. -- Dylan Type faster. Use Dvorak: http://dvzine.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] xterm shortcut
After I set my driver to Xglamo, [ctrl]+[alt]+[x] no longer launches xterm. How do I get it back? Alternatively, i can maybe just customize ./xsession so xterm starts automatically. Any idea? -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] xterm shortcut
Actually, with Xglamo, [alt]+[tab] also doesn't work. I guess i'm returning to fbdev for now. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Neil Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: ahh, so it was Xglamo that did that (ive been at a confrence and havent had time to look discovered i have the no wake from suspend bug after a format, lol bad timing.) just putting xterm in ./xsession works for me I have two starting on login. unfortunatly i cant help you any further (i actually thought that it was the illume keyboard that didnt do it, but hey). 2008/11/21 Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] After I set my driver to Xglamo, [ctrl]+[alt]+[x] no longer launches xterm. How do I get it back? Alternatively, i can maybe just customize ./xsession so xterm starts automatically. Any idea? -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: idea: accelerometer daemon
Then maybe gestures daemon can be extended to be more robust. The biggest problem with the acc.meters is that they go unresponsive and block read attempts. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Monday 10 November 2008 14:14:45 schrieb Atilla Filiz: I don't know if there is any work towards this anyway, i think having an acc daemon like gpsd would be nice. The daemon can check for blocking in acc.meters and reset the hardware if necessary, and serve multiple clients(which is not very likely actually). This way maybe we can have more quality acc applications, if using them becomes easier and more stable. We already have the amazing gesture recognition daemon by P.V.Borza which is pending integration with the frameworkd. I think most applications will not want to read the accellerometer data directly, but rather react to signals in terms of gestures. Those (few) applications that do need direct access can read from the input device nodes directly. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
idea: accelerometer daemon
I don't know if there is any work towards this anyway, i think having an acc daemon like gpsd would be nice. The daemon can check for blocking in acc.meters and reset the hardware if necessary, and serve multiple clients(which is not very likely actually). This way maybe we can have more quality acc applications, if using them becomes easier and more stable. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
is FDOM unstable
Hello I was trying my FR as my primary phone for one week. It went good with QTextended 4.4.1. Today, I decided to try FDOM. It is really nice that it comes withh the apss and fixes I would manually install anyway but it occasionally freezes, doesn't receive calls in time, and some apps(remoko, moocow etc.) simply won't start. i read really good comments on it so i was expecting a better put up collection. Is this normal or am I the only one. I flashed 081023 image with latest 2008.9 kernel. happy hacking -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] In need of debian tarball
I tried to create a tarball from my 512MB uSD but tar exits with errors. For a not-so good workaround, you can use dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=card_image_file and then dd the image to a bigger card but the better thing is just find a tarball. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian size and uSD
playing around with resize2fs worked, thanks. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:52 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A consistency check with fdisk yielded that the size of the partition and the size of the filesystem do not match, and advised me to run e2fsck. e2fsck said there are no problems. I ran fdisk and e2fsck on FR-debian. gparted on my py sees the partition as 2GB. darn it. so? your partition might be 2g, but your fs still is 512mb. somebody explicitely mentioned to use resize2fs to make partitzion size and fs size match. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!
Stability and battery life are my primary concernn. If it is stable enough to be a primary phone and survive for 60+ hours, i'm definitely going for it. On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It's out! http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/ On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 02:51, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Cool... Btw I've seen that there are also some commercial (premium) modules that could be integrated with Qtopia, also if they're not open source. Well, will be there a way to get the torch mobile browser, for example? This is the full functionality Iris web browser. This was not developed by Qt Software. There is a simple example web browser in the qtextended sources. You would have to contact the premium module companies to find out if they are releasing a version for the Neo. None of the 'premium' modules were developed by Qt Software. Qt Extended is fully dual licensed. Yeah, I knew that but the company which has developed Iris said to another user that the browser is available just for Trolltech/Nokia and not for all users... Can you confirm this or maybe there's a way to get it? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian size and uSD
I can use two card readers, no problem. would you suggest me tar /dev/sdb2 and untar it into /dev/sdc2? Or is 'dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc' better On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually do cp -ax ... with success. I've cloned entire operating systems like this in the past without problems. Haven't tried with OM yet, but it worked with a couple of Ubuntu installations. Takes a long time, though... ;) Obviously, you preferably do it with the filesystem offline... booting from somewhere else. Citando arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another thing is I bought a 2G uSD and I want to move my debian system to that card. If I manually partition it (8MB fat and rest ext2) and just copy contents of 512M, would it work? Or maybe i can copy an image using dd and then somehow resize the partition. Anyone tried migrating from one SD to another? do not use plain cp -- it will most likely result in some corruption of special files. your best bet would be either tar or rsync, depending of your usecase. for rsync (and tar on-the-fly) you could copy the partitions with dd, mount the images with loop and transfer your data. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian size and uSD
I did dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=/dev/sdf2 and it booted but i still have a problem. sdb was a 512M card and sdf is 2G. After copying, my pc sees it as 2G but FR sees it as 512M. Runing some partition software now(testdisk). On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/1 Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can use two card readers, no problem. would you suggest me tar /dev/sdb2 and untar it into /dev/sdc2? Or is 'dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc' better You may dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=/dev/sdc2, and after resize2fs /dev/sdc2. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.8] [2008.9] [qtopia] earphones
My eperience with the headset: If you plug it all the way in, you hear from one side. You pull it out a bit, you hear from teh other side. There is a sweet spot where you can get sound from both sides. Experiment slowly. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Davide Scaini wrote: Thanks a lot I'll try! why there's no wiki about that? Because nobody's added it yet ;-) If it sorts the problem for you then please add the details to the wiki. thanks again d On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Davide Scaini wrote: hi all, if I connect the earphones at the fr i can hear only from one side... is that and hardware or a software problem? I tried with asu and qtopia with the same result (the earphones are ok...) thanks d qtopia and 2008.x don't switch alsa state files on insertion of the headset. This leaves you with the stereoout.state which will give output in one ear of the headset only. You need to load headset.state instead: alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/headset.state restore You may have to switch states manually rather frequently, depending on how aware of the headset the various apps are. You may want to switch to gsmheadset.state during phone calls for instance. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian size and uSD
A consistency check with fdisk yielded that the size of the partition and the size of the filesystem do not match, and advised me to run e2fsck. e2fsck said there are no problems. I ran fdisk and e2fsck on FR-debian. gparted on my py sees the partition as 2GB. darn it. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=/dev/sdf2 and it booted but i still have a problem. sdb was a 512M card and sdf is 2G. After copying, my pc sees it as 2G but FR sees it as 512M. Runing some partition software now(testdisk). On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/1 Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can use two card readers, no problem. would you suggest me tar /dev/sdb2 and untar it into /dev/sdc2? Or is 'dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc' better You may dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=/dev/sdc2, and after resize2fs /dev/sdc2. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Looking for Debug board owner in The Netherlands
Hello, My FR suffers from the factory defect that my NOR is blank. I need a debug board to program it which I don't have and don't want to pay €100 just to use once. I am looking for someone who can help me, preferably around Eindhoven. Here is the deal: - I bring my FR, laptop and necessary software. - You bring the board. - I treat you a lunch while we flash my NOR. Note: Non Dutch-speaker Happy Hacking -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian size and uSD
After I installed Debian on my stock uSD, i realized that Debian is _BIG_. There are tons of libraries installed. I think a lighter Debian is possible, any ideas? Another thing is I bought a 2G uSD and I want to move my debian system to that card. If I manually partition it (8MB fat and rest ext2) and just copy contents of 512M, would it work? Or maybe i can copy an image using dd and then somehow resize the partition. Anyone tried migrating from one SD to another? -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] x11vnc
I wasn't expecting much speed but still, yea it feels slow. Isn't vnc always slow anyway? On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:24:26 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MT() wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: Just for sharing a nice idea: I've installed with # opkg install x11vnc Well, it works, but it seems quite slow to me... Isn't it? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ i use it without the buffer option, just x11vnc , but it still isn't much faster though... -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Suitable USB converter
Have you found any cheap cables/adapters to connect normal usb peripherals to the usb OTG port? A keyboard will be extremely useful at home. -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Disable keyboard prediction in order to use languages other than English
There is an alternative keyboard. Check this out(I fixed this way): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#Virtual_Keyboard On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, is there any info on the workings of the defautl keyboard? I am trying to write in Swedish but get English suggestions all the time. Any way to configure that? /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
A small piece of plastic as a switch for SD, how about that? On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko site-openmoko.org@ onerussian.com wrote: The note attached said: GPS internal antenna issue appears to respond positively to cranking RF_3V to 3.6V from 3.0V. Perhaps Torfinn's last Email was right: it may not be an EMC problem but a lack of voltage? well... you could look at those results from the other side as well: it is a SNR issue for sure, and to boost SNR you either boost signal (which is what voltage raise does) or you reduce noise (which what removal of SD card seems to be doing). -- Yaroslav Halchenko Research Assistant, Psychology Department, Rutgers-Newark Student Ph.D. @ CS Dept. NJIT Office: (973) 353-5440x263 | FWD: 82823 | Fax: (973) 353-1171 101 Warren Str, Smith Hall, Rm 4-105, Newark NJ 07102 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Turkish openmoko users/wannabes?
If there are other Turks other than me, please PM me, i'm just curious. Cheers -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Re: Bestellung openmoko
It seems Pulster is really busy, sorting orders. It is also a probability that he's not going to give any response before he actually has more FRs to ship. I put an order on 25th of June and so far only thing I have is an automatic reply. Patience, my friend. On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Diego Fdez. Durán [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the reason? the delay? I'm waiting to know when my FR will be shiped from Pulster too. On Wed, July 2, 2008 17:19, Roland Häder wrote: On Wednesday, 2. July 2008, Marcel wrote: Short translation: Your packet has begun its trip today! Mine is canceled by myself today. :( Guess what was the reason... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Diego Fdez. Durán [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.goedi.net GPG : 925C 9A21 7A11 3B13 6E43 50DB F579 D119 90D2 66BB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast questions about GTA03
Can we just disable glamo with software and use it only when profitable? On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/27/08 Mikko Rauhala wrote: On pe, 2008-06-27 at 13:56 +0200, Lucas Bonnet wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I encourage you to get involved today. We need your help. Waiting for GTA03 is a possibility of course, but keep in mind how long it took us to go from 01 to 02. Sure, how can we help? If I may interject, I would presume Sean here is talking about buying what's available now (instead of next year, even with the GTA03 not being a major improvement anyway in most respects), and, you know, running with it. Exactly. We need to sell phones to stay in business and continue these ideas. So think of your USD $399 as a donation, if you like, towards your GTA03 ;-) -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No WLAN AP functionality
Why can't we use madwifi? I thought our wifi chips were atheros. On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crane, Matthew wrote: But if you can plug a usb wifi stick which the kernel does support AP mode you could then use the internal wifi as the uplink. I'm finding it difficult to source a cheap usb wifi stick that Linux supports in AP mode. Do you have an example of one that you know works in this way, and has Linux drivers available for armel (which immediately cuts out any madwifi drivers due to eabi) ? -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: humor
Linux kernel 2.6.x series have the AP ability AFAIK. So it should just take a little coding to achieve this(maybe just a little shell script). If we want secure access like WPA flavours, then we will need some porting. On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Hans L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xkcd.org/440/ describes a use case for the neo:) Is it possible to use the WiFi in the FreeRunner as an access point? -Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR with embedded projector and LASER keyboard
Seemed fake to me. On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ?? Is this the first fork of an open hardware project??? if it is a fork, what about implementing laser keyboard and projector in the next GTA? :P 2008/6/26 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://koolu.com/WE-Phone/GET-YOUR-FREE-W.E.-SMART-PHONE.html The current generation of the phone does not include the laser keyboard or built in projector. The Laser keyboard is sold separatey. The next generation of the phone will incorporate the laser keyboard and tiny LED projector built in. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR with embedded projector and LASER keyboard
It's not OSX, it is GPhone as the text suggests :P On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I strongly doubt that future versions will have a laser keyboard and projector. That said, the laser keyboard exists and you can buy a Bluetooth one. And since when did the freerunner run Mac OS X? :P On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seemed fake to me. On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ?? Is this the first fork of an open hardware project??? if it is a fork, what about implementing laser keyboard and projector in the next GTA? :P 2008/6/26 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://koolu.com/WE-Phone/GET-YOUR-FREE-W.E.-SMART-PHONE.html The current generation of the phone does not include the laser keyboard or built in projector. The Laser keyboard is sold separatey. The next generation of the phone will incorporate the laser keyboard and tiny LED projector built in. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Patent threat to OpenMoko devices?
Look who are sued: Palm, Nokia, Aplle, Dell... I thought most of them were doing this for years. :P On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Daniel Mewes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Typhoon Touch Technologies has initiated legal measures against different companies with reasonings including - but not limited to - producing touch screen driven smartphones, as far as I understand it. Those devices are claimed to infringe two patents. http://app.quotemedia.com/quotetools/newsStory.go?storyId=11549290topic=TYPTsymbology=nullcp=null I did not check the whole patent descriptions, but on the first sight it seems to me that OpenMoko Neo1973 and Freerunner may be affected by those, too? http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=5379057.PN.OS=PN/5379057RS=PN/5379057 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=5675362.PN.OS=PN/5675362RS=PN/5675362 Regards, Daniel Mewes ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: humor
this one is even made real: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xkcd#Life_imitates_xkcd On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xkcd.com/225/ Chances are you could do this with anyone on this list... :-) On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed...one of my favorites. http://xkcd.com/325/ -Original Message- *From*: Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] *Reply-To*: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To*: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject*: Re: humor *Date*: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:28:34 +0200 On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:38:59 +0200, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.xkcd.com/433/ Who needs to tell jokes when you have XKCD? Just post a number, and everyone will have a good laugh. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
