Re: looking for used (or broken) GTA02 (whole or PCB) to purchase
I also have a complete gta02 a5 with buzz fix, screen intact. It used to work fine but laid unused uncharged for over 12 months and now does not show any signs of life even when plugged in and power button pressed, so it is difficult to know its state. I'm in Australia. Any reasonable offers. Denis On 23/12/2012 10:55 PM, Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote: Dmitry Shalnoff shaln...@gmail.com writes: Hi list! Is there anybody have broken screen GTA02 for sale? or maybe intact PCB after upgrade to GTA04? I'll be appreciate for reasonable price or maybe somebody just could give it for free (almost free) after upgrade. Sure, you can have my GTA02 PCB. I haven't used it now for over a year, so can't guarantee that it is perfectly working - but it was working (as far as the software allowed) before I got my GTA04, and I'm not aware of any damage since then. If you'd like that, I guess you should let me know your address. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Server upgrades / docs and svn are back
Harald, wow, thanks for all your efforts. So good to see someone make the time and step up. Regards Denis On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: Hi again, as the way outdated projects.openmoko.org has been down for something like two years now, I have removed the links in the navigation bar on the top right avoiding to lure people into what is nothing more than a broken link. For security and maintenance reasons, the horde/imp webmail installation on https://mail.openmoko.org/ has been deactivated. I don't intend to bring it back. Just for the sake of completeness, jabber.openmoko.org and buildhost.openmoko.org had been deactivated a long time ago. I'm also removing them from the DNS zone file as part of getting rid of old cruft. The number of VMs has already been reduced to six now, as some services have been merged with other VMs. At some point we will have to change IP addresses of the MX for @openmoko.org and @lists.openmoko.org in order to migrate everything into one subnet. While it shouldn't cause major outage/breakage, it still might. I'll send a proper announcement before doing that. In the end, the following services will remain: * www.openmoko.org / wiki.openmoko.org (http/https) * downloads.openmoko.org (http/ftp/rsync) * 3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org (http/ftp/rsync) * mail.openmoko.org (smtp/imap) * docs.openmoko.org (http/https) * svn.openmoko.org (svn/svnweb) * git.openmoko.org (git/gitweb) * admin-trac.openmoko.org (http/https) * monitor.openmoko.org (https) * lists.openmoko.org (smtp/http) * planet.openmoko.org (http) * people.openmoko.org (http) One of the things I still need to figure out is who currently owns the openmko.org domain at CAcert. A bunch of renewed certificates would probably do some good to help against all those browser warnings about expired certificates. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken FR
I'm sorry I don't have a repair recommendation for you, however I do have a GTA-02 A05 with buzz fix which I simply have not had time to do much with. It was one of the first group purchases into Aus. It has been sitting on my desk for many months uncharged waiting for some love. Batteries might be shot being discharged for so long. Also can't seem to power it up any more even when plugged into original wall charger, but it was working perfectly before I let it discharge and sit, so no reason to believe it has any issues. I'm on the Sunshine Coast, Qld, Australia, so if you or someone on the list will give it a good home, then please make me a reasonable offer. Original box, headset, charger, 2 batteries (unknown state) regards Denis On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Dave dave...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Dave dave...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 12:38 AM Subject: To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Hi, I am in Australia and my GTA-02 A6 has a loose USB socket. Does anybody know anyone reputable in Australia that I might be able to send it too for repair? I have approached several (Brisbane Australia) repair places but they won't touch it. It is incapable of charge or ssh while the socket is loose. I believe I caught the problem early enough to avoid PCB damage. (if I wiggle the plug it will charge for a few seconds). Thanks Dave ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a recipe for qt4-plugin-phonon-backend-vlc
As a user, yes it would be interesting to have option of vlc backend. Although I must admit that I would probably be more interested if I could actually use vlc as client for streamed video i.e. I have a MythTV machine in the house and would like to stream recording to FR, but that's probably OT. Sorry can't help with hint cheers Denis On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Sylvain Paré sylvain.p...@gmail.com wrote: Up. Nobody is interestied or wants to give me a hint ? 2010/8/27 Sylvain Paré sylvain.p...@gmail.com Hi, If someone is interested I am trying to build the vlc backend for phonon (in replacement of the gstreamer one). It needs at least libvlc 1.1 that you can found attached (David I tested it and it works!. well not very smoothly at all but I think it can be largely optimized. don't have the skill to do it plus here it is for playing sound which interests me, not video :) ) I did a recipe (attached) but it needs automoc4 which is provided by automoc-native to build. And this is where I gets stuck : automoc-native itself does not build. (According to OE's log automoc-native is ~ 2 years old.) Attached my CMakeError.log = 'Q_WS_WIN' undeclared (first use in this function) which was defined in QtCore/glogal.h but not anymore now and I don't know where it is supposed to be. I don't know how to fix this properly. If someone can help me. thx by advance! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] FR dying unexpectedly?
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Sometimes (at least once per month?) my FR dies unexpectedly: sometimes it happens when I receive a phone call, even if my FR does not die when the same phone number calls before and after the Call of Death. Other times, my FR is suspended or fully on while charging. I have not noticed a pattern so far. This has occurred to me also a few times, can't say I ever noticed it while getting a call. My FR dies both when running on battery on when charging. When I say my FR dies, I mean it shows no user-visible signs of life until I remove and reinstall the battery. Before I do this, I cannot even get my FR to power on again: the display is off and the power button does not appear to do anything. Does this happen to anyone else? Yes, very similar symptoms, although I have noticed similar issue whenever I do flash a new distro to NAND (regardless of distro). The first power on/boot attempt appears as if the FR is dead, until I remove and reinstall the battery. Usually I have to wait 15 sec or so before I reinsert the battery. I am using Qi, and I get the familiar led flash and vibrate but then dead, but t not sur if Qi has anything to do with these symptoms. Is there a known cause and/or prevention? I am currently using QtMoko v19 with the QtMoko v19 debug kernel (suspend did not work with the QtMoko v19 nodebug kernel) on a buzzfixed GSM 850 MHz GTA02A6. Mine is a buzzfixed GTA02A5 first group purchase into Australia. It experienced these symptoms prior to buzzfix also. I'm currently running V24 and so far have not experienced it dying while booted, but then I have not had v24 that long. At this point I do not feel it is distro related and suspect that it may be kernel version related and specifically related to detecting usb cable and charging state and perhaps even the battery meter showing invalid state while battery is in fact quite drained. As you suggested, it sometimes even occurs while the FR is plugged in, however I wonder if sometimes it simply looks like it is fully charged while it actually has a critical low battery and shuts off. As you say, hit has not happened enough times to be able to be definitive about the conditions and establish a pattern. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v24
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, new QtMoko images v24 are out! You can download from our sourceforge [1] or visit our homepage [2][3]. Now that I have been trying V24 for some days, I can confirm the following: 1. I now have good call volumes and no distortion after setting audio values via neocontrol and they are remembered across reboots if you use the save option. Very happy. 2. Power Management - does not detect current state .e.g. battery or AC. When AC plugged in, still says on battery - after suspend, state shows locked despite never going to lock. If one goes to lock and then unlocks, power mgmt still shows state as locked. Locked state goes to battery after attaching usb cable and charging starts. 3. Unfortunately and the biggest show stopper for me, is I am still experiencing sporadic GSM connectivity issues. This is not new though, afaik this started as an issue sometime after v16. It would be interesting to see if anyone else experiences these or knows a workaround. If you want me to provide logs or you want to give me step by step instructions for test cases, I'm happy to be a guinea pig to resolve these issues once and for all: - sometimes stays searching for network, multiple restart of QT does not clear it even when 3 bars or better are shown in signal meter on left. - sometimes after device reboot no network but then seems to connect, however sometimes shows signal and carrier but cannot establish outbound calls and inbound calls can't get through. Obviously same for SMS. - currently there does not appear to be any relationship to suspend cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v24
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:48:41 +0200 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz (RP) wrote: Hi, new QtMoko images v24 are out! You can download from our sourceforge [1] or visit our homepage [2][3]. Hi Radek and all QtMoko contributors, this sounds really great, thank you for all the hard work! I would like to reiterate and thank all contributors for your ongoing efforts. regards Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v22
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i have uploaded new stable QtMoko debian images [1]. .. - workaround for the GSM (restart not needed now) .. As for the fixes: first two are quite clear. The problem with GSM not registering can be partially solved by putting sleep after we power the modem on. GSM registering now failed for me only first time after flashing. Then i tried many times and haven't hit the problem again so let's hope it's fixed now. Anyway 2.6.32 does not have this problem - so 2.6.32 is long term solution. I have reflashed to v22 and found that it cycled on searching for network. A qt restart did not help at first but then seemed to register as my carrier was shown. I have since restarted QT and the device a few times and sometimes it cycles searching and other times it just seems to register. Nonetheless, I cannot send sms, simply get given error error sending sms and the sms is placed into drafts. I also cannot establish a call... it goes through the motions after I dial a number, but pretty quickly shows disconnected and quits the dialler. Happy to be guinea pig with versions or any other debugging as I have not been using the fr as primary phone for months due to similar problems. If there are any logs or debugging or versions you would like me to try, please respond with step by step instructions cheers Denis BTW, thanks for all your work on this distro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v22
Thanks for all your hard work and efforts. I re-flashed with latest v23 files and my first call, although I could hear the other party pretty well (although I would like to increase the volume), the other party complained of bad distortion so I guess it is time to find the correct mix of state files. Mine is a GTA02 A5 buzz fixed. So if someone has good working state files then please share. cheers Denis On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i have uploaded new stable QtMoko debian images [1]. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone?
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Martin Šenkeřík martinsenke...@gmail.com wrote: I can recomend you android. I was looking for reliable phone, I tried everything, and my last try - android is total winner. Give it a try. Can you confirm what freerunner and android versions please cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: thanks to authors of Podboy, NIDE, and openmokontrol
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Josh Thompson om-c...@joshandbianca.net wrote: NIDE is working really well to control MythTV. I had been thinking of writing something to control it via MythTV's remote control interface. This works just as well and works for other apps too. I have wanted to get NIDE running on my QTMoko to also control my MythTV but I'm stuggling to find working any of the feed or package links on the NIDE page, what's the secret ? cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no writes: That ticket seems to describe a similiar problem with wifi, it doesn't mention GSM. Or are both handled by a common piece of hardware? No. GSM runs on a separate ARM processor and is accessed over a serial port. As reported by me and others, WIFI is periodically not available after a reboot and there is some suggestion that the faster kernel may be exposing some timing related issues. I'm not yet certain if this issue is also being caused by the timing issues, but on my QtMoko v16b with the nodebug kernel I'm not only experiencing the WIFI problem but more importantly I'm seeing some GSM and SIM related problems. I frequnetly go to make a call and the dialer drops out wihtout errors. If someone can tell me where to look and what to provide to help debug this, then do so. I also sometimes get errors sending SMS and other times get sim card not ready when trying to delete SMS. I just wanted to report these as a data point and if anyone wants more details and logs, please ask. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: You may try http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED I'm still trying to find suitable NIDED package to install and run on QTMoko v16b. Any ideas where and how. Do I need to add a special feed ? cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call volumes
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: You can install qalsamixer under settings-software packages if it helps. I dont have buzzfix so cant help more. Thanks, I installed that however it is difficult to tie together all those sliders to the various control numbers in the state file. I vaguely remember a thread here some time back discussing those controls and values and that the wiki instructions were not correct. I might try and search teh archive and make some sense of it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: and my FR's date and time is always back to 1st Jan 1970 after a reboot. It looks to me as though the RTC device isn't working: debian-gta02:~# hwclock --show RTC_RD_TIME: Invalid argument snip I my case on QtMoko V16B and this kernel I get: hwclock --show Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method. Use the --debug option to see the details of our search for an access method. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call volumes
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: I think you mean this post: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-October/057319.html Indeed that is the one I was referring to, thanks. I also found this one http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-December/058189.html Please see my reply to Vinzenz Hersche’s post in this thread. Yes thanks, although your suggestion of putting control 48 to max of 3 seems to contradict 48. The advice on the wiki is bad, and likely to lead to distortion. Keep 48 low unless you have 12 and 5 near maximum. do you happen to know if we need to restart QTExtended or will changes to the state file take immediate effect. I also wonder how the QTMoko settings, call options, call volume interacts with these state files as it does not modify them if you change one or both sliders. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] Call volumes
I have switched to using QTMoko, currently running V16b and I cannot seem to get the call volumes right. Caller is not loud enough and caller struggles to hear me. do I need to fiddle with teh gsmhandset.state file manually or is there a better way ? I have a GTA02 A05 with buzzfix. Anyone have a same setup and would care to share their state file(s) cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: New project openmokontrol
Any progress on NIDED being available ? I still can't find it. cheers Denis On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:13 AM, David Wagner deubeul...@gmail.com wrote: hab keen oh ne a écrit : You could extrakt the ipkg file and move the binary to /usr/bin. Otherwise you could install the debian package, which should soon be available in the Hackable:1 feeds. It will be available tomorrow at http://build.hackable1.org/debian/dists/wip/main/binary-armel/ (and for some other archs too) I tested it, it's awesome :D David Von: Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Gesendet: Dienstag, den 12. Januar 2010, 10:11:15 Uhr Betreff: Re: New project openmokontrol Any idea if it is possible or how I can install this on QTMoko V16 ? On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: You may try http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED Regards Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
Any idea if it is possible or how I can install this on QTMoko V16 ? On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: You may try http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED Regards Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
Excellent thanks, Does this include a normal flashable image I can put straight to nand or is this an SD card install only ? cheers Denis On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:34 PM, ghislain ghisl...@basetrend.nl wrote: I've created a new installer-image for QtMoko V16B, it can be downloaded here: http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#qtm16b QtMoko V16B . This are the changes: - Kernel without debugging options (overall speedup) - TangoGPS to V0.99.2 - Latest patch from Radek (mmap mmap64) (solves segfault in webviewer / arora) Ghislain http://www.basetrend.nl/ BaseTrend - http://www.openmobile.nl openmobile.nl -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/qtmoko-New-significant-speedups-coming-to-FreeRunner-tp4284388p4284388.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: New project openmokontrol
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:13 AM, David Wagner wrote: It will be available tomorrow at http://build.hackable1.org/debian/dists/wip/main/binary-armel/ (and for some other archs too) I tested it, it's awesome :D You tested on QTMoko ? Von: Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Gesendet: Dienstag, den 12. Januar 2010, 10:11:15 Uhr Betreff: Re: New project openmokontrol Any idea if it is possible or how I can install this on QTMoko V16 ? On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: You may try http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED Regards Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
Good work, Do I only need the .bin or the config and modules also. I have tried just the .bin using qtMoko v16 image and it boots quite quickly to qt ui then cycles to black screen with blinking cursor then after some time back to qt screen then back to black screen. etc cheers Denis On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just FYI to the community list, as slowness has been one of the biggest problems with Neo. Quite nice speedups are coming: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2010-January/010811.html (performance testing by Gennady Kupava) Apparently, and unfortunately, no-one had really questioned Om Inc:s (who mainly did the kernel work back in the days of the still mostly used 2.6.29) choices of kernel configuration. Disabling kernel debug features and pre-empt has resulted eg. these kind of improvements (from IRC, #openmoko-fi): - boot time 68.5% of original - apt-cache search nano 20s - 14.8s - emacs -f kill-emacs 3.8s - 2.2s These configuration changes are not yet in andy-tracking (the 2.6.29 kernel still being used in most distros), I don't know what's the situation in the new om-2.6.32 branch. Together with the quite recent commit from Thomas White that doubled theoretical glamo speeds (in practice at least 20% in general), I feel that Neo FreeRunner is not anymore terribly slow, but only slow by today's standards, which is quite an improvement. Especially after having been used to the terribly slow general behavior ;) Please tell if some distro happened to have those disabled already, and if someone knew about these speedups via the options already - and please arrange a commit to git.openmoko.org next time! Anyway, this all goes to show that in a project with limited resources like Openmoko, especially now that it's completely in the hands of the community when it comes to Neo FreeRunner development, you have to have the courage to question anything suspicious etc. you are seeing, not trusting that someone has actually optimized something to the extent assumed. If you want to have a quick grab of the new kernel for Debian (or any distro that loads uImage from a file), I put my compilation of kernel and modules to http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/kernel_20100108_nodebug_nopreempt/ -Timo, wishing everyone a speedier new year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
Thanks to Radek, I indeed also needed to download an untar the modules. All good, great work. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: Good work, Do I only need the .bin or the config and modules also. I have tried just the .bin using qtMoko v16 image and it boots quite quickly to qt ui then cycles to black screen with blinking cursor then after some time back to qt screen then back to black screen. etc cheers Denis On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just FYI to the community list, as slowness has been one of the biggest problems with Neo. Quite nice speedups are coming: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2010-January/010811.html (performance testing by Gennady Kupava) Apparently, and unfortunately, no-one had really questioned Om Inc:s (who mainly did the kernel work back in the days of the still mostly used 2.6.29) choices of kernel configuration. Disabling kernel debug features and pre-empt has resulted eg. these kind of improvements (from IRC, #openmoko-fi): - boot time 68.5% of original - apt-cache search nano 20s - 14.8s - emacs -f kill-emacs 3.8s - 2.2s These configuration changes are not yet in andy-tracking (the 2.6.29 kernel still being used in most distros), I don't know what's the situation in the new om-2.6.32 branch. Together with the quite recent commit from Thomas White that doubled theoretical glamo speeds (in practice at least 20% in general), I feel that Neo FreeRunner is not anymore terribly slow, but only slow by today's standards, which is quite an improvement. Especially after having been used to the terribly slow general behavior ;) Please tell if some distro happened to have those disabled already, and if someone knew about these speedups via the options already - and please arrange a commit to git.openmoko.org next time! Anyway, this all goes to show that in a project with limited resources like Openmoko, especially now that it's completely in the hands of the community when it comes to Neo FreeRunner development, you have to have the courage to question anything suspicious etc. you are seeing, not trusting that someone has actually optimized something to the extent assumed. If you want to have a quick grab of the new kernel for Debian (or any distro that loads uImage from a file), I put my compilation of kernel and modules to http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/kernel_20100108_nodebug_nopreempt/ -Timo, wishing everyone a speedier new year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
Sorry to reply to my own post, but I have now resolved this issue and I just wanted to clear up that it had nothing to do with NIDED or uinput module on the host. Both seem to be running happily now, although I'm yet to install a wifi manager on my FR to get wifi working and then NIDE client running. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: Now I am really straying OT, but now that I have followed the make and make install steps for nided and modprobe for uinput, I seem to have hosed my mythtv frontend which boots through to X but then sits there waiting and never brings up the main myth menu and no longer responds to my usb attached mouse or keyboard. Anyway won't bore this group and I'll go an debug what's up or take it to mythtv group. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
Now I am really straying OT, but now that I have followed the make and make install steps for nided and modprobe for uinput, I seem to have hosed my mythtv frontend which boots through to X but then sits there waiting and never brings up the main myth menu and no longer responds to my usb attached mouse or keyboard. Anyway won't bore this group and I'll go an debug what's up or take it to mythtv group. cheers Denis On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if there is something already available which I could get going on the FR ? The following thread [...] You may try http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
Great work, thanks for this. At the risk of straying somewhat off topic, I would love to have an app on the FR to allow me to use the FR as a remote control for my MythTV front-end albeit accelerometers not really needed, although some gestures could be useful down the track. Does anyone know if there is something already available which I could get going on the FR ? The following thread http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5045highlight=wifi talks of mythwifi and I know mythtv supports a telnet interface but all a little out of my depth cheers Denis On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:35 AM, hab keen oh ne baba_mel...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi community, I just published a new project called openmokontrol. Im using a TCP/IP connection to any X server to control it with the fr's accelerometers, mainly for games ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Network Time
Just as a data point, I have checked the default settings in shr-t but I know I have to use the date command in an ssh session to get date and time set correctly and also do a hardware sync. Strangely it seems to keep the time until I re-connect via usb and ssh in, from there the time goes out. I am also in Aus (Qld) on savytel (vodafone) network. Obviously I need to investigate further. cheers Denis On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:54 AM, W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: Not quite - it should be if available - network time is not part of the base GSM standard but an extension which many (most?) networks done use. The zone is part of the standard, but if your provider crosses multi timezones as here in australia, you might not be able to properly use it. Beware using the default time server for network time - in europe it might be ok, but it has jitter and offset here in australia at times - set it to a local timeserver in /etc/frameworkd.conf. Time keeping has improved a lot, but I still find I connect to a network or use GPS once a day to make sure it stays on time. BillK On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 18:31 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote: The section about Date/time settings in the SHR wiki from openmoko http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Date_and_time says: Date and time are automatically set from GPS or Network Regards, Marc On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Any way to extract the time from the GSM network and have the time set based on this?. Any distro that does this or any tools available?. Many phones have this capability. It would also be nice to set the time based on GPS, when that is available, but often when indoors, only GSM works. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s t n m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@ n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
Sounds perfect !! you have me salivating, many thanks for the link and prompt response... something to play with tonight :-) cheers Denis On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: Great work, thanks for this. At the risk of straying somewhat off topic, I would love to have an app on the FR to allow me to use the FR as a remote control for my MythTV front-end albeit accelerometers not really needed, although some gestures could be useful down the track. Does anyone know if there is something already available which I could get going on the FR ? The following thread [...] You may try http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED Regards Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: In the name of the FSO team, I wish all of you a Happy New Year! Thanks to you and the rest of the FSO team for what you have achieved to date and hope 2010 is indeed the year for FSO to prevail and go from strength to strength. regards and best for the New Year Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
yes yes shr-t latest On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth PBAP support for FSO
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Thomas Zimmermann m...@vdm-design.de wrote: So is someone out there who owns a handsfree, car or sth else that supports showing contacts and/or missed calls over bluetooth? I have a Ipaq 4150 running Windows CE and CoPilot Navigator which uses bluetooth gps and software supports various live communications for things like traffic, live location feed and receiving trips from base info but I think that's all using GPRS so probably not much help to you ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] [shr-latest] fso or phonefsod borked (?) no resume
I'm not sure if this is related, but I have certainly had sms go missing until a reboo. This is on shr-t . However I also noticed this behaviour on QTMoko v14 which is what prompted me to switch to latest testing SHR. Is this possibly a kernel related issue or perhaps common FSO base ? On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Yann SLADEK yann.sla...@free.fr wrote: Yes it also happens on shr-u phonefsod - 0.0.0+gitr168+ccc2892b58d5bb2ef613661534e7c6950e4a8dae-r4.4 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] [shr-latest] fso or phonefsod borked (?) no resume
Yes. I upgraded to moko11 firmware earlier this year, and later also sent it off for buxzfix. It came back with Android on it and I have since re flashed to QTMoko V14 and now to shr-t. I haven't checked but I doubt it has gone backwards. Denis On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:13 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: Are you using the latest moko11 GSM firmware? - this one of the side effects of bugs in the older GSM firmware. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-t] Contacts crash upon startup
I'm have the lite image with no additional installed packages, and I have been experiencing various crashes of the contacts app, sometimes just scrolling, sometimes if you just remove a field label and save. It started to just crash on startup so I rebooted and now it starts but is completely blank. If someone who knows what I can provide to help debug this then let me know. cheers Denis On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Bernhard Reiter ock...@raz.or.at wrote: Hi, I'm running shr-testing with up-to-date opkg upgrades and pisi-imported contacts (from evolution exported vcf). Unfortunately, the latter combination seems to cause the Contacts application to crash right after I start it (it will only show up for a moment, sometimes only blank, sometimes blank at first, then briefly with my contacts list before crashing). I have to admit that I don't really know how to provide meaningful debug information (how do I start Contacts from the terminal?), so I'd be glad for any hints. On a side note, my sms messages are attributed to the wrong people, ie a message i got from A's phone number shows up to be by B. The issue might also have to do with encoding, as the names in the messages include strange entities -- and those entities are different every time I start the messages app (eg instead of Dr. Someone, it's sometimes x9 Someone or anglesquare Someone or whatever...) And, finally, up to recently, every time I made a call, the screenlock showed Diane D. is calling -- though there's no one with that name in my contacts. Whatever relict is that? Kind regards Bernhard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] ANNOUNCE: new shr-testing image
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Thomas Zimmermann m...@vdm-design.de wrote: Betreff: [Shr-User] ANNOUNCE: new shr-testing image Just re-flashed after using QTMoko for some time. Using lite image and while I have not tested all functionality this looks and feels nice and so far has been stable. Nice work and many thanks for the huge effort. I had no problem making and receiving a call. I had to adjust microphone volume, but a volume slider is provided in UI, and even though the other party could not hear me very well initially, after changing the microphone slider, I eventually got it to an acceptable quality. I did notice the ring-tone delay is still there on an incoming call i.e. when you press answer/accept the ringer continues for a couple of seconds. I'll post back after more experience. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] Call quality
Just made my first QtMoko V14 based call, FR A5 with buzzfix - IPhone and the other party struggled to understand me, they said somewhat faint and very crackly/broken up. I heard the other party clearly although I think I would have preferred a little more volume. I'm not sure if this is characteristic of QtMoko or just bad luck call quality, however my previous experience with SHRU was fine. Anyone else can report their call quality with QtMoko ? Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] glamo mplayer
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de wrote: did someone already try to port vlc media player ? +1 I have asked this months ago and got no replies, I hope the answer has changed as vlc works fine enough for playback on my desktop and was my first thought. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] glamo mplayer
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Dan Staley daniel.l.sta...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking about this the other day. There are arm4 ports of myth-frontendso I wonder how well the frontend would run on the freerunner. It is designed to look good on low res screens I may try installing the front-end after I get my new myth system migrated. I'd love to hear how you go. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] glamo mplayer
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Yes, the binary that QMplayer downloads from internet is using glamo acceleration. Btw QMplayer has also PC version [1]. On your PC you can scan for media and start http server which will offer videos encoded for Freerunner for streaming or downloading. QMplayer in QtMoko can talk with the PC version from it's GUI. [1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qmplayer/ nice to know thanks. At the risk of being slammed for being OT discussion, does anyone know if there is a player for the IPhone which can play http stream ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] mediaplayer issue
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Wednesday 28 of October 2009 03:37:34 Denis Johnson wrote: How does one play a mpeg stream uing a link from qmplayer such as http://192.168.0.105//mythweb/pl/stream/1003/1256644800 You can try the sharing option. But the http parser in QMplayer is very simple - so it will most probably wont work, but the source code is out there and everyone can improve it ;) Another option is starting mplayer from command line or download the file via web browser or wget and play it locally. I specifically want to try streaming as opposed to download as many recordings are large like 2gb or more apart form not wanting to wait for download, the FR may not have that much available unless using SD and then we hit other performance issue afaik (See glamo SDIO performance thread) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call quality
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:04 PM, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: -[ Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 05:52:00PM +1000, Denis Johnson ] I'm not sure if this is characteristic of QtMoko or just bad luck call quality, however my previous experience with SHRU was fine. You should probably copy your mixer settings from SHR to QtMoko if it was better under SHR. Oops, already blown away :-( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call quality
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:17 PM, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: -[ Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 06:09:30PM +1000, Denis Johnson ] You should probably copy your mixer settings from SHR to QtMoko if it was better under SHR. Oops, already blown away :-( Yes but if you never changed them you may be able to find the default ones on google. ok, I did end up changing them Inever had quality problems in shr but things were faint so I tweaked until I got acceptable. Fortunately I have a backup on my desktop machine. The gsmhandset.state file I used in SHR is attached. But I am yet to try it on QtMoko Denis gsmhandset.state Description: Binary data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Call quality
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:17 PM, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: Fortunately I have a backup on my desktop machine. The gsmhandset.state file I used in SHR is attached. But I am yet to try it on QtMoko sorry to reply to my own mail but I wanted to report back that I retried a call to the same party after changing to my shr state file and although they reported it to be an improvement they said they now had echo at their end. denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] glamo mplayer
I want to use my FR to watch a stream from my MythTV recordings using http stream (I think it is mpeg 2) using my wireless. Is the glamo enhanced mplayer available in QtMoko/Denian ? cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] mediaplayer issue
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: It's known problem. If you need good quality playback, you can use qmplayer program. How does one play a mpeg stream uing a link from qmplayer such as http://192.168.0.105//mythweb/pl/stream/1003/1256644800 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
CorePy: Assembly Programming in Python
http://www.corepy.org/ I came across this while researching other development related stuff and I thought it may be interesting for some of the Python aficionados here who may have not heard of it. For those that want or need some raw performance or access access to lower level stuff on the FR cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] Latest update failed and connectivity lost
Thanks, but neither has corrected the problem. I guess it is looking like a reflash On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/17 Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com: I searched some mailing list archives, and this magic incantation let me connect to the network again (I had the same problems as you're having...) opkg install -force-reinstall libgsm0710mux0 libfsotransport0 \ libfsoframework0 libfsobasics0 fso-abyss fsousaged \ libgsm0710mux-config frameworkd frameworkd-config-shr \ libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 \ shr-contacts shr-messages shr-dialer ophonekitd that'll do it, although afaict it's only actually libfsotransport0 that's causing the problem - something uninstalls it during certain upgrades. possibly a deps issue ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] Latest update failed and connectivity lost
I'm not quite sure where to report this so I apologize if it does not belong here. I did an 'opkg update opkg upgrade' today as I have many other times. I received the following errors: Collected errors: * Package libldap-2.3-0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libldap_r-2.3.so.0 But that file is already provided by package * openldap * Package libldap-2.3-0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libldap-2.3.so.0 But that file is already provided by package * openldap * Package libldap-2.3-0 wants to install file /usr/lib/liblber-2.3.so.0 But that file is already provided by package * openldap After rebooting I had no gsm. If I go to wrench settings...connectivity settings, all complain about not being able to connect to fso. I removed the above files and completed the upgrade without further errors, however it still does not connect to gsm etc despite rebooting. Paroli also cannot connect to any of the services. If anyone has any suggestions, then please advise. regards Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [elementary] How to get evas object out of elementary.Window
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: And please paste the result here. My results via ssh session: python Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Sep 7 2009, 00:26:26) [GCC 4.1.2] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import elementary elementary.init() win = elementary.Window(, elementary.ELM_WIN_BASIC) win_evas = win.evas_get() type(win_evas) type 'NoneType' type(win.evas) type 'NoneType' cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Device Orientation API
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@ansol.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:36:21PM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: I'm sketching a simple device orientation API for FSO. The purpose is to be informed about changes in the physical device orientation. My first take is at http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. Valid substrings contain portrait, landscape, faceup, facedown. Comments? I agree wholeheartedly. omnewrotate was only a way to do rotation better than the alternatives, but such use of accelerometers is too shallow. IMHO it's better that the position is declared as sets of angles and that portrait, et all be aliases for certan sets of angles within a certain tolerance, that certain listening apps would only pay attention to. This way, perhaps, one could mix flexibility with ease? +1 Perhaps one should be able to define the sets and aliases and that a set does not only include one axis, so that an alias such as top-left-down are possible. Thinking further, is it likely for different apps to want to use different resolutions so for example mokomaze will want pretty high resolution but another app that starts up may request/ inject (my term) an additional set/alias to be reported. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:49 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Well, here's the latest release. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3480288/launcher_0.30_arm.ipk launcher_0.30_arm.ipk I guess this is a feature request. How hard would it be to optionally allow finger swiping from category to category ? That would also eliminate the need for the category tray/shelf at the bottom and free up some space, although some indication of current category name would probably be useful. regards Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:28 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Please post bugs / problems / inconsistencies you've faced. There are a lot of db changes and things will take a little while to settle. I set the dialer and contacts into the home category and they show on the bottom of the screen only as labels and no icon. I also cannot launch either of them. But I like the launcher approach. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:17 PM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Well, thats one issue. Could you copy all the icons from /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps to /usr/share/pixmaps ? Yes that fixed it thanks. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fmwrote: Hi, I gave it a try and wrote an FSO based phone app in Qt. It's using the new PIM service, and since that's not completely stable yet, there are a few problems. I'm releasing this anyway, to help test FSO, and meanwhile get some feedback on the gui and general idea. Consider it an alpha release. There might be little bugs here and there. Just tried it, love the approach of having everything in one place. Excellent keep it up. I did notice that it seems some contacts are skipped between the alphabetical buttons/tabs on the right. iow, there are some contact that are not listed. But you may already be aware of that one. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner audio channels
+1 2009/8/8 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt I think you're all missing the point. David's initial post is a breath of fresh air into a long debated but (AFAIK) non-resolved issue. I deeply welcome his investigation into this subject, and support his questions (which I also would like to see answered). Although the issue of low playback volume is rather well controlled in our FRs, the issue of low recording volume for GSM transmission remains - with callers still complaining and going what? I didn't hear you... now and then, especially in (even slightly) noisy environments. The whole audio settings for GSM issue is _not_ cut and dried, in my view. I still have to go into frameworkd.conf every time I flash the phone and set the DSP to long-aec to avoid echo and sporadic audio clipping, as well as raising the volume in playback and mic in gsmhandset.state... and I'm still not satisfied with audio quality. So, can someone please humor David and me and explain this sidetone channel business? Thanks. Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Paul Fertserfercer...@gmail.com wrote:\ BT support for FSO already works for quite some time (several months). Lack of interest from end-users is something that clearly shows the developers that they shouldn't waste time improving it. On the contrary, I feel this is one of the core issues which needs to go on the list to make the phone usable as an everyday phone. Please, please resolve this issue once and for all. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Paul Fertserfercer...@gmail.com wrote: Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Paul Fertserfercer...@gmail.com wrote:\ BT support for FSO already works for quite some time (several months). Lack of interest from end-users is something that clearly shows the developers that they shouldn't waste time improving it. On the contrary, I feel this is one of the core issues which needs to go on the list to make the phone usable as an everyday phone. Please, please resolve this issue once and for all. What particular issue do you have in mind? The support is there. And it works. I've told about that on community ML several times already but it looks like you prefer to believe it's not to have something to blame :( I am not looking for someone or something to blame and I appreciate and support all the great work that everyone does. Although I am a developer and know enough linux to be dangerous, I am pretty much an end user of the Freerunner at this point. I have had it almost a year to the day and none of the distros I have tried worked with my bluetooth headset (Aliph Jawbone) for making or receiving calls. I have kept a cursory eye on the ML since for this issue and I admit I have seen the odd reference to some CLI commands to try and connect during a call but have been waiting and hoping that it would be supported automatically via some alsa state file or some such because I can hardly expect my partner to open a terminal window and issue some bluetooth connect command while she is driving so that she can use the phone hands-free ;-) If what you are suggesting is that it is now expected to work at the FSO dbus level albeit needing some initial pairing to be setup without a gui (which is fine if it is a one time exercise), then I am more then willing to test with my BT headset as soon as my FR returns from buzzfix in the US. I will report my findings here when I do. Whomever is responsible for adding this support to fso, thank you for your efforts and sorry if you feel your efforts have been a waste. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service
Also I am somewhat concerned that from Australia we will struggle to make the cut-off date considering it is already the 8th here. cheers Denis On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:53 PM, NeilBrownne...@suse.de wrote: On Fri, June 5, 2009 4:32 pm, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: He wrote that he is in the US. We also run the same program for a while for EU customers: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework Nikolaus Any suggestions on a best course of action for Australian customers? Supposing we were happy to pay shipping to-from USA, how would we go about paying the return postage and what might it cost (I think it is about $AU15 to post to the USA from here, for standard airmail). Thanks, NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is it so slow ?
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Just set ELM_ENGINE env variable to x11-16. You must know about /etc/profile, didn't you? ; Just to demonstrate my lack of familiarity in this area, could someone please provide exact example of the line that needs to be added to /etc/profile cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Chris Samuelch...@csamuel.org wrote: I guess the first question to ask yourself is do I have the buzz problem ? I've been really happy with mine in the UK, US and here in Australia and nobody has complained about any buzzing (yet). I think I'd only consider this if it was causing me problems.. Fair enough point. I thought I did not have the problem either, and certainly nobody reported it to me while I was using QTe. Then a couple of months ago I switched to SHR-Testing and struggle from both a volume level problem (too quiet) and a number of people have reported buzzing at their enf while I hear them perfectly and buzz free. I am assuming that the distro change is simply a circumstantial data point and that the problem has always been there but nobody has mentioned it until now. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: App for remotely controlling jukebox software
I have a SqueezeBox Duet http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/products/squeezebox-duet.html and run SqueezeCenter (OSS) on my NAS but I notice that Duet hand controller which uses WiFi for remote control, runs linux and a LUA based UI for remote control http://softsqueeze.sourceforge.net/. As far as I know the OSS controler software is designed to run on other hardware, even on your desktop if you like,, so while I apologise that this does not specifically cover your question for Freerunner, there may be something to borrow/salvage or learn from that solution. cheers Denis On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Sam Kupersam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote: Is there any software for the Freerunner that, with minimal tweaking, lets it take the place of the iPhone or iPod Touch in a setup like this?[1] [1] http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/#tutorial=wirelessmusic ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:24 PM, NeilBrownne...@suse.de wrote: You can send it to sdgsystems.com. You first purchase the freerunner audio quality enhancement on the website. This costs $0 plus postage. Their postage price is around $AU100 sent by international courier. If you ask, they will sent it be USPS and credit you the difference. I asked for USPS first class which according to http://ircalc.usps.gov/ is about $US11. It cost me $AU16 to post it from .au to .us. Thanks for that. Should I also consider any other hardware fix at the same time ? cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to get buzz fix in Australia
I have asked this before but the thread seems to have fizzled. I have a GTA02 V5 one of the first group purchases into Australia and I would like to know if anyone in Australia is planning a buzz fix party or if there is somewhere overseas I can send my Freerunner to get fixed. I do not have the equipment or expertize to do it myself. Any recommendations welcome. regards Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsenr...@sygehus.dk wrote: They call it qwo[1] and I think it rules. It takes many hours to get used to it, but I think it is definitely worth it. +1 After trying many keyboards, qwo rocks. I am yet to try dasher but I'm pretty sure that the minimal screen real estate that qwo requires will win out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interest for C#/.Net/Mono wrapper of FSO Api?
Am Freitag, 15. Mai 2009 20:34:49 schrieb Andreas Willich: So I was thinking of writing a wrapper around FSO so I do not have everywhere in my applications dbus calls to fso. Is there interest for such a wrapper? I was under the impression that FSO already had a high level Python wrapper, could someone please clarify. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly keyboards
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net wrote: Hi, So far on my FR, I've mostly been typing non-dictionary words so the predictive keyboard has been getting in my way. I knew a few people had created finger friendly keyboards so I had a bit of a play. Have you tried Qwo ? http://www.opkg.org/package_84.html for me despite it's unconventional approach and learning curve, this is now my favourite keyboard for sms. I'm using it successfully on shr-testing. YMMV cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New Mokomaze] Coming soon
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: Using gmeter for resetting suspend-timer is useless here as I may hold the game steady and still don't want the screen to blank. The only correct way to handle this is to stop screenblanking as long as mokomaze is running. I suggest using fsoraw for this purpose (it's been intended to handle exactly these issues), or patch mokomaze to allocate the correct resource by itself, though that would somewhat restrict portability of the app to non-fso based systems. Could you or someone please describe where and how to install fsoraw on shr-testing (23 Apr or so) ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: * keyboard: now that the keyboard prediction can be turned off, it is already much more usable, but still needs a lot of dragging left/right/up/down to make a real sentence with punctuation and stuff. So some extra buttons and rearranging of existing ones would be nice ... Is there any chance of ever getting the Qwo keyboard workring on QtEi ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:30 AM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I am following this way. I am sure that the game itself is more important than a tons of statistic and sub-menus: just launch the game and start playing. So, if the feature of showing information about level time and retries count will be added, it will be optional. The nicest and most playable game I have seen on the FR to date. Well done and thank you for your time. While we are discussing options, I notice that the feel and response is a heavier ball then perhaps the visuals suggest. Is it possible to expose some of the physics settings to the user ? even just via some properties in a file or start-up switches ? regards Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NEW e-tasks Alpha release
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, 20 odd views and no feedback? Seems like PIM apps aren't really on very many people's radar :-) View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/NEW-e-tasks-Alpha-release-tp2740524p2744591.html On the contrary, I would lobe a full integrated PIM especially something that can sync with Google Calendar in both directions and allow me to use a calendar even when I do not have Internet access/gprs and re-sync seamlessly again when I do (sometimes wifi, sometimes usb cable, sometimes gprs). I would also like the same for contacts either to sync to my Linux desktop contacts or google contacts. And yes, a good task manager would have to be part of it. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Ebook reader?
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 20:12, Russell Dwiggins undrwa...@verizon.net wrote: I recommend you use the fbreader from opkg.org too…has the ellopatches that make books actually readable. ;) SHR version has that patches included. I'm running SHR testing from around 22 Apr and 'opkg install fbreader' fails to find package. Is there a repo I need to add and if so how. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buzz on GTA02v5 with latest SHR-Testing, do I need buzz fix ?
Currently running SHR Testing from around 22 April, on my GTA02V5 in Australia. While on a mobile to mobile call, the other party complained about buzzing. 1. Could someone please confirm that this is the hardware caused buzzing problem and not related to the distro or alsa state settings. 2. Are there any users in Australia with same batch (original group purchase via Perth/Brisbane) which also have the issue and have managed to get it corrected or have access to someone that can do the fix in Aus ? cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: no, there was nothing wrong with the port or cable - someone at shr hadn't run depmod before creating the tarball, and the modules for communicating over usb weren't being loaded. if you run depmod on your phone, it should clear it up I apologise for reporting this and then disappearing. Sometimes there are just not enough hours in the day. I just want to confirm that a combination of running 'depmod' in terminal on the phone and also using 'ifconfig -a' on my host (now upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04), I found that when the phone is plugged in that I got an 'eth1' listed so I changed my scripts accordingly and I can now SSH in. I have not rebooted the neo or my host yet but if anything changes I will report here. Thanks, to all for your replies and assist. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
I'm not sure who or how to report this but since I have gone through the test and it has taken some time to resolve. Flashing the latest SHR image and kernel from http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ 23 April uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119800+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r3.4-om-gta02.bin I could not connect via SSH over USB from my Ubuntu 8.10 host. lsusb on the host could see the neo but could not ifup usb0 Only after reflashing just the kernel back to Apr 9, could I again reconnect via SSH. I have not tried kernels posted between those dates to work out where the problem starts. Howver to confirm it, I have reflashed back to the latest 23rd April but could not connect, then reflashed back to 9th April and worked again. Both report 2.6.29-rc3 via 'uname -r' cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Dylan Reilly drei...@atariland.net wrote: One of my primary uses for the openmoko is a music player Just as a general question, and I apologize to the community if this has been discussed here previously. I wonder if anyone has tried to run VLC from http://www.videolan.org/ on the FR. It is open source, has been around and tested for many years, supports many audio video formats, streaming source or producer , can be run from the command line and various UI's can be attached. Although perhaps not optimized to be finger friendly out of the box, I'm sure if anyone is inclined to put a nice UI on it with the FR tool set it shouldn't be that difficult. As I said, this has probably been discussed previously and there many excellent technical reasons why it is not a viable solution, but if so would like a summary of why not. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it has something to do with hardware revisions. I get the same kind of battery life. I have a GTA02V5 and I'm also experiencing 36-48 hour battery life with QTExtended 4.4.2. This is with suspend enabled. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Matthias Camenzind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried this with 512MB SD (it works): Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 17814 250040 6 FAT16 /dev/mmcblk0p27815 15568 248128 83 Linux Would you please spend 5 minutes and post a short list of what works and what does not. Perhaps worth a spot on the WIKI. I'd like to know what to expect before I embark on re-flashing from current QTExtended 4.4.2 (calls working well with no echo or buzz when on handset, suspend/resume, occasional late or duplicate sms notifications and other minor grizzles ) and also having to prepare an SD card just to find out on Android I still can't do the basics again like make or receive calls, sms or suspend. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * It's my Hard drive that doesn't support FLAC! If I used flac, my music library (I guess mp3 collection will soon become a misnomer!) would be *enormous*! Yes, I realise it's lossless etc etc, but 320kpbs mp3s are close enough for me. I understand and agree that from a quality pov MP3 @ 320kpbs is sufficient for most, and the amount of space required for your library matters, but I was under the impression that FLAC is also a compressed format. However I must admit I'm not sure how it compares to MP3 @ 320kpbs cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mp3 is also a lossy format. so other formats are not lower quality. The thing is, converting from one format to another is also a lossy operation itself. So if you convert an ogg music to mp3, you may also end up with slightly worse file. If I may add, I recommend that your music collection should be ripped and archived from CD using FLAC http://flac.sourceforge.net/. Preferably using something like http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ (if someone knows a Linux equivalent please chime in) Only if your device does not support FLAC playback, convert from FLAC to whatever is best for the device. Although I don't know if the FR supports FLAC, does anyone know ? cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Gerrit and Repo, the Android Source Management Tools for GIT
I'm uncertain if this is the right list to post to, however, I came across this in ccontext of Android, but since it seems that most of the distros are using GIT then this may be of broader general interest. http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/11/gerrit-and-repo-android-source.html cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Networking
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the wiki posted solution was tested by myself on a the currebt debian and did work! Are you using the same environment? I believe so, I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 but have had this problem since 8.04. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Denis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had this setting for months it does not work for me. Whenever I want to connect my FR, I must first plug it in into the usb and then run the following script which someone once posted here or on the #openmoko irc. Until I run ths script I cannot ping and hence ssh into the FR. Unfortunately I don't know enough to integrate and automate what the script does into my interfaces file. If someone can shed some more light, it would be appreciated: -- #!/bin/sh # Enables Hostside USB-Networking for neo ifconfig usb0 down ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT route add -host 192.168.0.202 gw 192.168.0.200 route -n | grep -e Destination -e usb0 -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:39 AM, JW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Community, vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to buy now!] 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 Definitely 1, maximise screen space, remove bevel on edges cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Community newsletter, October 4th to 19th
Excellent summary, many hours saved. Much appreciated, please keep it up. Cheers Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, welcome to the unofficial Openmoko Community newsletter, October 4th to 19th issue. The two big news are the launch of opkg.org, an application directory, and Openmoko engineering team focusing back to the basics on Improving user experience. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/October_19th%2C_2008#Applications Contents * 1 Images * 2 Applications * 3 Good fixes and discussed issues * 4 Community * 5 Outside Openmoko Images Things were rather quiet on the distribution front. Rasterman's October 11th images (source) were put online. This is not really a distribution, but rather a demonstration that illume runs well and is so beautiful, for others distros to grab. We also saw daily SHR image builds online, no release yet but available for testing. And Qi, the next bootloader, recently got resume support.Testing shows that it is much faster than uboot indeed, but no release yet either. Applications Everybody applauded when Tobias announced http://opkg.org , an online directory of applications (think Freshmeat, Tucows...). The database is community-driven, everybody can register and index applications. In the flow of community developped utilities, I noticed: * the initial release of OpenMooCow, a nice, funny and useless bovine noise simulator. * Optimizations on Rotate. This is an interesting example of competition and cooperation (community development, if you prefer), because there are many versions being developed in parallel, with ideas jumping across all the time. * The Gestures GSoC project developper managed to convince his academic instructors to let him code on the FreeRunner for his degree. Future developments coming at http://AccelSense.org * Auxlaunch is a very simple, finger-friendly application launcher and window switcher for the Freerunner. It appears when the AUX button is pressed. With respect to porting other applications to our favorite platform, I read that Intel's made powertop actually runs on the FreeRunner. This is an very handy utility that allows to measure and therefore optimize power usage. Also: * FBReader an e-book reader programme now available for Debian and 2008.8 * Sander ported Pingus the free lemmings clone, for OE based distributions (it was already available on Debian). * In addition to minimo, openmoko-browser2, and midori, we saw a bunch of light and fast web browsers announced on the mailing list: Fennec), Dillo (ipk), NetSurf and links2. That makes about seven, working more or less well. Choice, choice, choice... * The same is happening for music players: pythm, openmoko-mediaplayer2, qtopia media player, deforaOS-player, qmmp, sonata, quasar. Thomas's K. also started a mediaplayer. So far I think that your best friend is mplayer from the command line interface (and on 2008.8, I think that mplayer is directly connected to OSS, so installing OSS compatibility packages probably help. And removing pulseaudio also saves tons of CPU cycles) Good fixes and discussed issues Many good news: * There is a fix for ticket 2038 about Qtopia USSD requests, so that dialing *123 or #4 should work soon. * There is a fix for ticket 1024, the GSM keeps reregistering bug, a.k.a. bouncing Calypso issue. The workaround is to prevent the modem from entering deep sleep, and it has been commited to the QTopia images already. * Powersaving patches landed in stable-2.6.26 on October 8th. Note to application developpers: the best way to blank the screen to conserve power is the fbdev-ioctl method. I think that xset s 5 should do it. Thanks to the Harald and the Swisscom research project ! * OM announced two hires: Ray Chao, to work full-time in Taipei on the infrastructure, and Christopher Hall, a very experienced software engineer. * Infrastructure-wise, unstable development of OM is moving back to OE. Too many bugs remain, see Test reports for example. Most of the grief heard these days was about Digital Audio Playing and Wifi. I would like to make an unrequested announcement for the sake of the good vertical communication: Kernels currently has the APM power management interface is still compiled in. This has been deprecated for years and is doomed to go away. Hopefully apm -s will still work for suspend, but userspace applications that still use the deprecated apm interface SHOULD take action, preferably sooner than later. Community * Openmoko's engineers reunited for a 3 weeks workshop in Taipei. They decided to focus back on the basics, that is to leave the Installer, Locations, Diversity and Settings applications alone for a while. This decision was very positively received by everybody. John Lee is assembling the engineering task force at
Re: Virtualized developer system (was Re: Back to the basics:improving user experience)
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Jisakiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ¿May I suggest the image being a virtualbox one instead of vmware? Virtualbox is quite fast as well, and there are free (as in speech) versions available for all major distros. Only problem is that the open source does not support usb (but the commercial version is freely downloadable and does). Only free vmware nowadays are the player (no snapshots ability) and the server (too heavyweight, based on tomcat + firefox plugin). +1 I have been using VirtualBox to run a Ubuntu guest for over a year now. Works very well, although I have not tried to connect neo directly to this instance. I ssh to another laptop running ubuntu natively to which I connect the FR. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED notification
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Jason Cawood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My reason is because if I suspend my phone then I walk away and return to it, I have no visible notification I missed an event unless I touch the screen and see if my phone is still suspended. If I'm not constantly touching the screen to make sure it's still suspended and I did miss an event. Then my power consumption just increased and my battery life is quickly diminishing. Andy Green in this thread said that it is possible to leave an LED on prior to going to suspend. If that is the case then I suggest: 1. Whenever there is an event which requires user attention one LED is turned on, I suggest the blue power LED. Events include: a) new unread sms b) new alarm c) missed call 2. LED stays on until user has confirmed ALL outstanding events. 3. Leave LED lit while going into suspend. This way way if the phone wakes on call, alarm or SMS and there is no interaction from user prior to suspend, whenever the user returns, then it will be clear there has been a missed event. The only difficulty I can see (without familiarity with all the frameworks available to us) is knowing if there are any outstanding events not yet confirmed by the user but I suspect some system level daemon is required so that no individual user level application like sms does not have to make decisions or be coupled to other subsystems. Is this a viable approach ? cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ Sounds like fun, what distros will this run on ? more specifically can this run on qtextended ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: volume phone very low after upgrade to qtopia-4.3.3-snapshot-09012242
I have also experienced the same. The incoming sound volume is barely audible, it sound like an ant in the distance. However the outgoing volume is excellent. Can someone please post the correct set of alsa state files and instructions on where to put them. regards Denis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:45 AM, t m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've upgraded to qtopia-4.3.3-snapshot-09012242 because of the improved sound quality and sms problem that was solved. After upgrading the volume (incoming) is much lower. Changing the volume in the settings didn't help. Looks like the volume needs to be adjusted manually. Any suggestions? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing Om2008.8 rootfs under Windows is *LONG*
FWIW, I have a laptop with 2gig ram and the host if Windows XP. I know I know, but for work that's what I need. So I use the free http://virtualbox.org and run a virtualized Ubuntu on my Windows XP SP3 box, but I'm sure it is fine in Vista also. That way one does not have to shutdown one or the other. However to be honest I have not yet bothered to setup usb connect to my FR this way (just lazy) as it so happens to be actually easier to plug it into one of my other machines on my home network which runs ubuntu natively and I just ssh across to the other machine that way. YMMV cheers Denis On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You haven't even tried backing it up. Try and see how long *that* takes. They say it is much, much better with the Linux port of DFU-util (or rather, something is very very wrong with the Windows port). snip I use Vista on my day-to-day working computer. With the FreeRunner it's faster to boot to an Ubuntu live CD and work on the FreeRunner and reboot in Vista for my regular work. I can flash the device a couple of times and experiment with QTopia and OM 2008.8 in the time is would take me to just flash the rootfs for either of those. I think the dfu for windows would benefit from some work. I tried running Ubunto in a VMWare virtual machine but couldn't get a good connection to the FreeRunner. V ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Gestures now working on fso-testing
Those who may be interested in the gestures project http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures. After some assist today kudos to rwhitby to get some prerequisite packages built into the feeds, I have successfully installed the gestures package on latest fso-testing image. Gesture training, recognition and screen orientation flipping works and so far I have not encountered any problems. images and feeds used: http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080817-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary neo1973/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin gesture package: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk Followed basic instruction on wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures Enjoy, Denis irc: hipitihop on #openmoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
