Android: can't connect to adb
Hello! I've just installed Android 0.2.0RC1 from: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/downloads/list I can ping 192.168.0.202 alright. I enabled adb access on the phone using the guide: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/AndroidDebugBridge But when I run: ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 adb devices List of devices attached List is empty. Are there any additional steps to get ADB working? Thanks, Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android: can't connect to adb
I'm taking my words back about good ping to 192.168.0.202 :( Turns out the connection is extremely unstable. I can ping the phone just after I connect to it or reconnect the cable. I get a couple of pings and than Destination Host Unreachable. For example: From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable 64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=5.20 ms From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=70 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=71 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=72 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=73 Destination Host Unreachable That time when I received data from phone I replugged the cable. To summarize - I get a couple of seconds of using the ADB before connection is lost again :( Has anyone experienced this weird problem? Leonti On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I've just installed Android 0.2.0RC1 from: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/downloads/list I can ping 192.168.0.202 alright. I enabled adb access on the phone using the guide: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/AndroidDebugBridge But when I run: ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 adb devices List of devices attached List is empty. Are there any additional steps to get ADB working? Thanks, Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GameRunner distribution
I just wanted to express my gratitude for creating this distro. I'm going on a trip in a few days and this just what I needed!!! Leonti On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:48 PM, GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 11:05 -0700, Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: Hello, GameRunner is an Openmoko Linux distribution. It aims convert the Freerunner open mobile phone in a Linux-based handheld game console. It is simple, and contains cool and suitable open source games for Linux mobile devices. Great idea!!! But I would prefer to just: opkg install task-gamerunner under SHR,or shr-gamerunner images. A big issue is that I was unable to remove frame pointer under a recent kernel... and frame pointer says: CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER: If you say Y here the resulting kernel image will be slightly larger and slower, but it gives very useful debugging information in case of kernel bugs. (precise oopses/stacktraces/warnings) If I remember well on htcdream that had huge performances impact (from unusable midori to usable) By the way we have some games in openembedded and maybe SHR: *battle for wesnoth *xboard + gnuchess and/or phalanx(for beginners) *mokomaze *pingus *scummvm *numpty physics *supertux *etc just grep for game in openembedded Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
Is it possible at all to run Android from SD card? I want to have SHR in NAND and Android in SD just for testing my programs. Thanks! Leonti On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:59 PM, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm interested in taking a look at Android... 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot other distributions, in particular Debian? It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Jim Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. Thanks for any answers and advice! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)
So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. Leonti Leonti On 9/2/09, Thomas Landspurg t.landsp...@8motions.com wrote: Hello Risto, Here is a few facts from such FAQ: Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the 'untrusted ones') One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID provides a complete access to the data and the measures. OpenCellId added a CVS uploader to import bulk CSV data files mainly to be compatible with the OpenBMap logger. I just don't have any OpenMoko phone to test it. I've been out of the mailing list from some time because I am not involved in the OpenMoko community (I am more involved in J2ME and others platforms), but I would be happy to reactivate the integration effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed. Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work on an integration. We had some early discussion, but I'll try to reactivate them. Regards, 2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's :) CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?) OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client: http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories) OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients: http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from other projects. AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each other) on collecting cells as OpenBmapOpenCellID - well, you just collect the cells. AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels. To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects. Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to find the position of a phone, right? 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj cellhunter cells? 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of Open Source. Can't really see it here. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)
Good looking app! And quite fast! Things I noticed so far: - As I wrote on ML before - there is no line breaking for cell broadcasting info - if info is long it expands the application window so the app is unusable after that - It would be nice to have a possibility to select broadcasting channels - right now I get info fro all channels and some of it I don't want to see - If I go to Contacts-Select some contact-Send SMS. What I see: To: + button Select Contact - I'd like to see To: + Contact name I've just selected + button Add more recipients (but shorter :)) Re: some gibberish - What this Re: is supposed to mean? I'm not replying to no one - I'm just writing a message ;) In overall I like the application and wish the development to continue at the same speed as it is now! Leonti On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:55 AM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Much later than I thought, but here's the latest release of Launcher. Features * Inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog apps * uses opim backends * shows cell broadcast info Feedback is welcome. Enjoy! http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3552019/launcher_0.35_arm.ipk launcher_0.35_arm.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3552019.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: appraw - .desktop file patcher for fsoraw
Just tried it - really great app! I could not believe a couple months ago that something like this would be possible some day - I remember having to run the script in terminal so the screen would not dim. Now with fsoraw and appraw it's so easy. BTW, can you make bitbake file for it so it can be included in SHR repositories? Leonti On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:01 PM, ANTant0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody, I wrote a small C tool for patching .desktop files to make apps be launched via fsoraw (to prevent automatic screen dimming and suspending). It can be used in various distribution enhancing scripts or just to make freshly installed app fsoraw-enabled. Typical usage - allocating Display resource for Mokomaze: r...@om-gta02:~# appraw -d mokomaze * Analyzing input file: /usr/share/applications/mokomaze.desktop * 'Exec' field found: Exec=mokomaze * Patched 'Exec' field: Exec=fsoraw -r Display -- mokomaze * File modified successfully. Changes can be easyly reverted by 'appraw -r mokomaze'. See 'appraw --help' for details. Source code is maintained on github [1]. Check Downloads section [2] for installation package. [1] http://github.com/Sektor/appraw/ [2] http://github.com/Sektor/appraw/downloads Regards, Anton -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/appraw-desktop-file-patcher-for-fsoraw-tp3481050p3481050.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Unknown boot options
Hello! I'm using latest Qi with latest SHR-U. This problem bothers me for a long time but just now I decided to find out what seems to be the root of it. Every time I boot my device I see kernel message stating: Unknown boot option 'g_ether.dev_addr=MAC' 4 times in a row. It does not affect anything but I hate to see error messages when my loglevel=1 quiet and my device is perfectly fine. It happens to me every time using Qi and I don't know how to make it stop. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enhancing launcher - feedback
Can you make cell broadcasting info adjustable? I'm OK with receiving info about my location but we have other info broadcasted like dating services and this is not what I want to see (although it can be funny sometimes). Another thing about broadcasted info - when the message is long it still stays in one-line expanding the launcher window which makes it unusable. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009
I like Paroli as an application, but I think there is no need for another similar OE distribution. We should have one very basic image (like we had with FSO) which would contain like shr-extra-lite with basic system programs, FSO and opkg. Plus some scripts to customize them. You want SHR? Run install_shr.sh - it will install ophonekitd and shr applications. Want paroli? Run paroli.sh Want litephone? Run litephone.sh And so on. This is the beauty of OE and FSO. Especially FSO. And of course those images can be generated automatically with bitbake. This way we'll have stable system base and different developers can just concentrate on specific programs. So we won't have to sacrifice some distro functions like for example bind-home in order to use SHR and vice versa. Right now I have SHR and Paroli installed as an application - it works perfectly. I don't see how is it worse than having OM2009 distribution. On the other hand if I would have OM2009 it will take much more effort to install SHR functionality to it. Just my 2 cents. Leonti On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Jan Vlugjan.pub...@famvlug.nl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Angus, First I want to thank you for your work on Om2009. This is what I like about Om2009: * Paroli * Focus on stability / a working phone * bind_home directory I played around with SHR as well, and I think that the items mentioned above are missing in SHR. If you could contribute in enhancing SHR in these areas, this would be great for the whole Openmoko community. Kind regards, Jan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqW54AACgkQvuFuLCp9giDXBACfQ97xBi59R1oTdeO3EOUXr3Lp xd4AmgIRwuD5cUQHvMEAvkJ1GYjVvC62 =ho1A -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fun] Have you ever wondered of the GPS chip accuracy?
I think the chip accuracy has nothing to do with it. As I can see from the picture, right now you just have reported speed at time points connected with straight lines. This is why it's so hairy - because it's a raw speed at 1 second rate. What you want to do is to use some kind of filter, for example moving average - it will make your data look like data from the chip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_average Leonti On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! When I was on holiday, I ended up to write a gps app, and I wondered how to measure speed exactly. My first attempt was, that I take the gps coordinates every second, and I calculate how many meters I walked/biked. Then I discovered, that fso reports speed too (although in knot units), after a bit of research, I multiplied the knots with 1.852 to finally have my speed in km/hour. Then I compared the two results, and it was interesting enough, that I thought would be fun to share with you too. Here is the generated svg data: http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/doh.svg On the horizontal axe you can see the time (in 10 sec unit, and every minutes and 10 minutes has a longer line). On the vertical axe there is the speed in km/h. There are some horizontal area, which indicates speed limits (I was biking): greenish: 0-5km/h yellowish: 5-10km/h red/lila: 10-15km/h blueish: 15-20km/h The black curve is the calculated speed based on the reported gps coordinates. The green curve is the speed what the gps chip recorded. The duration of the whole trip was 15 min, as you can read from the graphicon. I think the pictures talks for himself, but everybody can see, that the calculated speed is really hairy compared to the reported speed by the gps chip. If anybody interested, I can share the data (from where the graph was generated)... I got two questions regarding the gps chip, maybe someone can answer me: - is there some settings, where I can fine-tune the gps chip? (I think what is the method to calculate the average speed? Is it adjustable?) - Is there a way to ask for gps coordinates faster then one second? (for running 0.1 sec would be awesome). And why the time is only reported in sec unit? (not fraction of the second) 1249424982.764385 vs. 1249424982 Is it a limitation of the gps chip? Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
Congratulations! FSO in my opinion is one of the best thing happened to Openmoko! Good luck! Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
I would like to thank all the people involved in buzz fixing too! You made a very good point a lot of people are forgetting about that other phones are not without the problems. We just don't know about most of them because there is no strong community around them. With the openmoko community it was possible to found the problem and to fix it. I was proud to buy this phone when it was released and I'm still proud to have it! Leonti On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Andreas Cyberfrag Fischercyberf...@gmx.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 While it took a bit longer than I had originally expected, I'm now proud owner of a buzz-free Freerunner :D Congrats to Dr. Schaller for making this happen - and congrats for OM for supporting this. Let's all not forget that other phones have problems too. It is the open nature of this project that allows us to actually fix the shortcomings other people would have to live with. Regards, Andreas Fischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAko1W9kACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwF5uQCfQ1vkpBky6xOqGanKy9W2dB4T pLQAn3nFpZuBZ0bNO9nqImbQoqZRHXvR =6nIc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Do I need the buzz-fix?
If you generally stay in the same area and don't experience buzz you may not need it. If you move a lot in some conditions you may experience it or may not, so you should get a fix just in case. In nutshell - buzz is something every not reworked Freerunner has. You may experience it or you may not depending on conditions. But your phone still has it if not reworked. Leonti On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Warren Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Hey all, I'm getting a bit confused about whether I need to get the buzz-fix operation done. Since I switched to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state a few days ago I've generally been satisfiied with my audio quality - a couple of people I've called have mentioned a small amount of buzz on occasion, but that the audio quality was tolerable. With most other state files I've had so much static on the line people on the other end could barely understand me. In http://n2.nabble.com/Debuzzing-tp2736682p3005844.html - Dr. N stated The Buzz rework is only required if you have the Buzz problem. If your device does not, there is no need to rework. My personal estimate is that 5% of users have experienced it. However, I've seen other statements like arne anka in http://n2.nabble.com/Debuzzing-tp2736682p3007627.html state conclusion: everyone having access to the buzz fix should take hold of it. Is there some consensus on this? Should everyone get the buzz-fix? If not - how do I tell if I should get the buzz fix. Thanks, Warren -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
From: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you to track your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming parcels. Since we already have to sent it with the service with tracking there is no point in GD confirming it once more - we should be able to see it in our tracking service. Leonti On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: Will we get a notification when Golden Delicious has recieved our device? On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:45 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: The free battery is a courtesy from Openmoko and is included in both approaches. OM sends a set of spare batteries to the one who organizes a party. He hands them out to you during that party. But I don't know if it applies to I had my phone recently fixed in a fix party in Germany or just to future parties. at least there where no batteries in braunschweig may 1-3. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
SHR-Unstable - just updated: File_loader: savegame file not found File_loader: 14 game levels parsed Segmentation fault I'd love to play this game :( Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
It works perfectly now! Man, this game is great! It has it all - graphics, feel (meaning vibration), physics. The only problem right now is that I look kinda stupid leaning from side to side, back and forth playing with my phone :D Thanks a lot! Leonti On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:42 PM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: r...@om-gta02:~# mokomaze File_loader: savegame file not found File_loader: 14 game levels parsed Segmentation fault I've found out the problem. Install libpng3: $ opkg install libpng3 Now the game must runs normally. I've just updated installation instructions on opkg.org and homepage. P.S. I was sure that libsdl-image depends from libpng... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze-0.5.0--is-released-tp2754592p2756380.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Are there any limitations on shipment? As fas as I understand you can rework only batches of phones, so if let's say someones sent it extra fast second day shipment they still will have to wait for others that have sent phones by extra slow shipment. Right? Are there any limitations by which date phones should be delivered? (I'm aware the date is not known yet but lets say rework is scheduled to 11 of may - phones should be delivered by 8th of may for example). Or does it work in other way? Will we have to wait for phones of other users before the rework? Leonti On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.orgwrote: Am 28.04.2009 um 22:30 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Dear community, it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find solutions for important topics that the community has and can't solve alone. Therefore, we (Golden Delicious Computers and TRIsoft) have worked behind the scenes and are close to offer a Buzz rework solution that can in principle serve all Freerunner Owners in the EU harmonized market. 1) We have identified a very good professional SMD rework company in Munich, Germany who are capable and willing to do the rework at low cost and high quality, but only if we deliver batches of collected devices. Since we are experienced in collecting incoming and outgoing shipments, the combination is the solution. 2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/ export hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price is not yet clear (expected to be less than 30 EUR incl. shipment) because we are in intensive discussions with Openmoko how they can help to reduce this fee for you. Openmoko has given us now full support and therefore, we can reduce the fee dramatically. A bad news is that you have to cover 2 way shipment. But another good news is that Openmoko provides a free battery as a gift for each shipment. 3) Rework will take approx. 1 week and could start immediately, provided we get the promised replacement components in time. That well need some days so I expect that we can start rework in the second week of May. 4) If you are interested, please register yourself and your device at the following link. We will then follow up with details about handling, address to send to, time schedule, final pricing etc. http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework This page has now become an order page. Please purchase the service. So stay tuned, Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Understood. Just bought a rework :) Another question - you said that phones will be tested, so it got me thinking - will you have any requirements on distribution installed on phone? Leonti On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.orgwrote: Am 30.04.2009 um 16:53 schrieb Leonti Bielski: Are there any limitations on shipment? As fas as I understand you can rework only batches of phones, so if let's say someones sent it extra fast second day shipment they still will have to wait for others that have sent phones by extra slow shipment. Right? Most probably yes. But it is not that you have to wait for slow phones. Incoming devices are collected until a certain batch is completed. That will be brought to the reworker. Rework itself does not take much time. But testing, repacking, labeling, shipping out again. So I can't estimate yet how fast the inbox fills up and how long it takes to move to the outbox. Are there any limitations by which date phones should be delivered? (I'm aware the date is not known yet but lets say rework is scheduled to 11 of may - phones should be delivered by 8th of may for example). The main limitation is that you should not send it unneccessarily early - because we can't start rework before we have the components in our hands. Theoretically, the best fit would be if your phone arrives at the same moment as the components... Or does it work in other way? Will we have to wait for phones of other users before the rework? Generally we try to do it as fast as possible, but please expect something between 1 and 2 weeks total processing time - time without a FR. This includes 2x shipment + some time in the collection queue. Leonti On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote: Am 28.04.2009 um 22:30 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Dear community, it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find solutions for important topics that the community has and can't solve alone. Therefore, we (Golden Delicious Computers and TRIsoft) have worked behind the scenes and are close to offer a Buzz rework solution that can in principle serve all Freerunner Owners in the EU harmonized market. 1) We have identified a very good professional SMD rework company in Munich, Germany who are capable and willing to do the rework at low cost and high quality, but only if we deliver batches of collected devices. Since we are experienced in collecting incoming and outgoing shipments, the combination is the solution. 2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/ export hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price is not yet clear (expected to be less than 30 EUR incl. shipment) because we are in intensive discussions with Openmoko how they can help to reduce this fee for you. Openmoko has given us now full support and therefore, we can reduce the fee dramatically. A bad news is that you have to cover 2 way shipment. But another good news is that Openmoko provides a free battery as a gift for each shipment. 3) Rework will take approx. 1 week and could start immediately, provided we get the promised replacement components in time. That well need some days so I expect that we can start rework in the second week of May. 4) If you are interested, please register yourself and your device at the following link. We will then follow up with details about handling, address to send to, time schedule, final pricing etc. http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework This page has now become an order page. Please purchase the service. So stay tuned, Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http
Re: Debuzzing
When you buy it shipping cost is added to your order. Total cost will be about 13 euros. It's repairing + sending back. Plus you'll have to send it to them buy the shipping of your choice. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. Leonti On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Michel mic...@xternal.nl wrote: Hi, This page has now become an order page. Please purchase the service. You talk about the fact that The 2 way shipping cost will be covered by the customer. how is this done? Is the 3 euro for sending back the device? Or are we charged when the device gets returned? Kind regards, Michel -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
Enlightenment is the best choice for Freerunner! 1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we want with GUI! Take shelf widgets as an example - you can change their look, even functions - like digital clock instead of analog - without changin the main code. I don't say it's not possible with GTK but it way more complicated. 2. Finger scrolling - it works by default. If I know that app is written in Elementary - I know that it's finger-friendly. Also - compare matchbox keyboard and illume one - latter is far more finger-friendly. 3. Up-to-date. It's under constant development, and getting better by the day. It's also (Illume and elementary) is well adjusted to phone. Just my 2 cents. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Watching videos on neo freerunner (openmoko 2008.12) mplayer-glamo
Denis, thanks a lot! I've put your config file on wiki. Now I can play video from memory card using only 15% of CPU! Leonti On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Denis Shulyaka shuly...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/8 Ivan Shirokov ivanshirok...@gmail.com: Does it work for FSO? Somehow it hangs up my FR. And there's something like Your system is too slow in the console =( Actually, the mplayer build that is suggested in the wiki uses mp3lib for decoding mp3 audio tracks by default. I suggest you adding afm=ffmpeg line to ~/.mplayer/config file to force using ffmpeg's internal mp3 decoder, or use a build without mp3lib support. It appears to be more than 3 times faster on my FR! Here is my ~/.mplayer/config file: vo=xover:glamo,x11 display=:0 afm=ffmpeg fs=1 quiet=1 osdlevel=0 noautosub=1 stop-xscreensaver=1 Hope it helps. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0
So after using it for a while I can say that I'm impressed. When I first saw tichy on FSO distribution it was slow and I thought nothing would come out of it. Thanks for proving me wrong! I like it's distribution independent approach - It has it's own keyboard and graphical toolkit - must be a lot of work! The only thing is that while in fullscreen mode you can run nothing except for tichy. I didn't find a way to switch between full screen mode and normal one. Also, can you add easier case change for the keyboard? Ruight now if I wan to write uppercase I have to go through all keyboard to get back to small letters. But in overall I like it, and I see that it has made a lot of progress. Leonti On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, it's working now! Leonti On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:32 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: seems pretty clear to me: pygame.error: Failed loading libpng.so.3: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory look for a package providing libpng.so.3 and install it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] How to get elementary?
Marcel, you can install e17 using this script: http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/ It will install e17 to /opt/e17 Then just adjust PKG_CONFIG_PATH , so system would find the libraries and include files/ Then you get Elementary from svn: svn co http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/TMP/st/elementary When configuring don't forget to put --prefix=/opt/e17 option, so Elementary would be installed in /opt directory Hope this helps On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Patrick Beck pb...@yourse.de wrote: Hi, i' am interested, too. Perhaps anybody has a python-elementary-package as well? with kind regards Patrick Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 12:45 +0200 schrieb Marcel: Hello, Is there a elementary package for Debian yet? I've not yet gotten round crosscompiling anything (thanks to python...) and fear adding a selfcompiled elementary (in case I get that to work) to an E17 from the Debian repos, running into conflicts when that actually contains elementary. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0
This is the output: http://pastebin.com/m312df0f9 Leonti On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Guillaume Chereau charlie...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Thanks for your work! I have a problem - when I start tichy it gives me just black screen :( Can you try to start it form command line : export DISPLAY=:0 tichy and send me the output. - gui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0
Thanks, it's working now! Leonti On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:32 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: seems pretty clear to me: pygame.error: Failed loading libpng.so.3: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory look for a package providing libpng.so.3 and install it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
eds-dbus - how to install?
Hello! I'm having troubles installing eds-dbus. The package itself is just 11 kb and contains only pixmaps. After reading that pimlico uses Embedded Evolution Data Server so I've installed it. Applications work but I don't see any dbus objects corresponding to EDS. How do I enable dbus for embedded EDS? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0
Hello! Thanks for your work! I have a problem - when I start tichy it gives me just black screen :( I had some of the packages installed from anstrom repository, so it might be a problem. But as I remember from previous tries - I had black screen too. Is it treatable? Tomorrow I will try to install it on clean and fresh SHR distro and see what it gives me. Leonti On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Guillaume Chereau charlie...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, (Some of you may know me from my previous openmoko address : char...@openmoko.org) Since I don't work for openmoko anymore, and since I had some free time in my hands recently, I restarted the tichy project (previously hosted on openmoko public git) The project is now hosted on google code [0]. From the web site we can see some screenshots. For the history, tichy is the project that was used as the base for the paroli project [1], officially supported by openmoko. Both projects are python frameworks to write applets for openmoko phones. I decide to restart tichy because in my opinion paroli has forked too much, and now both projects are having very different goals. So why I think people should give tichy a try : * It can run on debian, SHR, and FSO (even thouhg there is currently a problem with the installation on FSO) * it is using the Dbus framework for all the phone applets. * It is very simple to modify it, almost everything is written in python, with some small parts in cython. * It can run on the desktop as well. * There is a release (1.0.0) [2] The first release 1.0.0 [2] contains the source package, a debian packages, and an ipkg package that can be installed on SHR (should also work on FSO, but I see that python-pygame package is currently missing from the FSO feeds.) I will keep working on the project if I think there are interested people. I don't know how much time I will allocate to this, so I can make no statement about plans or future releases. Of course contributions are welcomes. I have to admit I didn't test it so much (I personally only use it for the chinese learning and dictionary applets), if people experience any problems, please let me know and I'll make a bug fix release. I would also be interested to know if the SHR, debian, or FSO people are interested for a collaboration to add tichy in there distributions. Happy programming, Guillaume [0] http://code.google.com/p/tichy [1] http://www.paroli-project.org/ [2] http://tichy.googlecode.com/svn/release/1.0.0/ -- http://charlie137.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device
I've bought Freerunner because it's open. And I take it pretty seriously. If 3G comes only with license, I don't need it. Freerunner with fixed issues + camera for geotagged photos is an ideal phone for me. Leonti On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units). You've just convinced me that, unless this changes, no OpenMoko with 3G will get my money as far as I'm concerned :) Why the outrage? I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that gets less and less Free as new devices come up :) I seriously hope GTA3 fixes some of the most serious problems GTA2 had regarding that. Rui -- Wibble. Today is Boomtime, the 19th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customizing the Openmoko Distribution
Looks like this is what you are looking for: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain Leonti On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I read this document http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Application_Development_Crash_Course in order to build my first program on my openmoko but I didn't understand where is OMDIR, is it in home or in root and when i run this command: cp build/conf/site.conf local/conf/site.conf it can't find build/conf/site.conf what must i do in order to build my first program on openmoko Anas El zouhbi ___ devel mailing list de...@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
Maybe you have too old Enlightenment version? For me on SHR-Unstable wrench and navigation arrows work flawlessly. Leonti On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Thanks :) Testing in Om2008.12. Joel I like a lot the theme :) Just notice, navigation on open apps not work, the wrench doesn't show but the area is sensible, but on press appears on blank with the close at the bottom. Suggestion, black bakground too :) 2009/3/30 Michael Sheldon m...@mikeasoft.com: David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: unable to untar the file r...@om-gta02:~# tar -xzvf serenity-0.2.tar.gz tar: invalid gzip magic The archive is fine, it's just the filename that's wrong, it's not really gzipped. If you just do tar -xf serenity-0.2.tar.gz it'll unpack without problems. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question
Yeap. I was recently fixed and it works now on SHR-Unstable. So for those who still have problems - try upgrading frameworkd. Leonti On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: have you guys tried this: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/265 ? On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:45 AM, roby hariseldo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i also didn't get fixes with shr-testing it used to work fine it also still works with openmok-agpsui, but not with tangogps I have noticed that if i -start with agpsui, -Power on, -wait for the fix (without moving the phone) -close agpsui without Power off -start tangogps it works well.. so it seems like tangogps is unable to stimulate the gps daemon to start. let me know if it's the same for you ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
projects.openmoko.org not reliable
Hello! Sometimes I can't open http://projects.openmoko.org/ At the same time http://planet.openmoko.org works every time. Is it only my provider or there is something wrong with openmoko.org site? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: projects.openmoko.org not reliable
Just tried it using anonymizer site - it works. I guess the problem is my provider. Weird though. Leonti On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Sometimes I can't open http://projects.openmoko.org/ At the same time http://planet.openmoko.org works every time. Is it only my provider or there is something wrong with openmoko.org site? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more
What do you mean by no log was re-generated? Script cellhunter_upload.sh send info to the server and then delets log file. New log will be created next time you are using cellhunter in offline mode. Leonti On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote: I have SHR latest unstable and the latest cellhunter version. In the very first beginning, when I switched to offline mode a log was indeed created. After going online and run 'cellhunter_upload.sh' to upload it to the cellhunter server, no log was re-generated? Why? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Friendly chess program
Rakshat, http://www.opkg.org/package_167.html Ed, I've installed the font but it's still not working. Same error. Trying installing other fonts. Leonti On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:42 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone put an Xboard package on opkg.org Thanks in advance Rakshat On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: Hi Leonti, Try installing font-adobe-75dpi http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/font-adobe-75dpi_1.0.0-r0_all.opk (opkg install font-adobe-75dpi http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/font-adobe-75dpi_1.0.0-r0_all.opk ) it works for me on om2008.12 Kind regards, Ed Leonti Bielski wrote: What distribution do you use? On SHR I get: xboard: no fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Leonti On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM, John Sullivan j...@wjsullivan.net wrote: Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: Hello! I'm looking for chess application to play on my FR. What choices do I have? Right now I have fltk-chess installed, but it is not finger-friendly (board is not resized). I've been happy with Xboard. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Friendly chess program
What distribution do you use? On SHR I get: xboard: no fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Leonti On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM, John Sullivan j...@wjsullivan.net wrote: Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: Hello! I'm looking for chess application to play on my FR. What choices do I have? Right now I have fltk-chess installed, but it is not finger-friendly (board is not resized). I've been happy with Xboard. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Script using dbus-send - not very reliable
Hi! I was using mdbus to request CPU and Display resources but it's too slow. So I decided to use dbus-send since it's very quick. Here my script: #!/bin/sh dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.RequestResource string:CPU It's also on: http://pastebin.com/m3563e31c The problem is that it does not work first time. I have to run the script twice to make it work. Same goes to other scripts that I modified from mdbus to dbus-send. Any ideas? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Script using dbus-send - not very reliable
Yeap, I'm using ophonekitd thing. But this is not strictly about requesting resources. Another example - script to turn gprs on. It works with mdbus for the first time. With dbus-send I have to run it twice. Leonti On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Monday 16 March 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: The problem is that it does not work first time. I have to run the Does not work? I don't think you can request resources with dbus-send. The moment you exit() it will release the resource. That's true of ousaged, but ophonekitd is providing a script-friendly intermediary with a similar syntax. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Finger Friendly chess program
Hello! I'm looking for chess application to play on my FR. What choices do I have? Right now I have fltk-chess installed, but it is not finger-friendly (board is not resized). Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells
It's working now! Thanks! Leonti On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org wrote: Am Montag, den 09.03.2009, 00:42 +0100 schrieb Daniel Willmann: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:12:50 +0100 Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: So the problem is in FSO? Why then I get neighbouring cells in zhone and not in Cellhunter? That kinda excludes problem in framework. No, frameworkd is the problem in that case. Zhone uses the DBus API to get neighbouring cells while cellhunter prior to that patch used the debug interface to send a special AT command to the modem (which is what the neighbouring cell DBus API does anyway). It seems that the new-timeout branch has somehow make the debug commands useless, we'll need to investigate that. Should be fixed with beef8c40c13ec8aaf9e4a973eb053ae3373aa43d :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit is not finding current position
Any hint on this? What am I doing wrong? Leonit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit is not finding current position
Yeap, this helped. Thanks for help! Leonti On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: Any hint on this? What am I doing wrong? If you run Navit from the terminal, it may tell you... In my case, it seems that the libgps installed on my system is too new. I haven't figured out how to solve this yet, but I'll let you know if I find out. I got Navit to work doing the following - Drop to a shell prompt on the FreeRunner (or use ssh to connect) - cd /usr/lib - ln -s libgps.so.17 libgps.so.16 This makes Navit think that libgps.so.16 is installed. Note: This may work for Navit for now, but may break other programs. HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] which webbrowser in testing
Try links-x11. It's fast, it has working ssl. Netsurf is also interesing. Leonti On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Sander openm...@humilis.net wrote: Richy wrote (ao): alternatives: midori or minino Minimo is replaced by Fennec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimo This project has been replaced by Mozilla Fennec -- Humilis IT Services and Solutions http://www.humilis.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Google web pages optimizer
Hi! http://www.google.com/gwt/n - here you can optimize webb pages for pda use - very useful for expensive gprs connection. Did not know about this before today, so just had to share in case someone else finds it useful. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Cellhunter 0.4.2 - no neighbour cells?
Hi! Yesterday I installed Cellhunter 0.4.2. It works great except for not displaying neighbour cells - they are all displayed as zeroes. The main cell is displayed allright. I'm using Shr-testing and latest framework. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells
So the problem is in FSO? Why then I get neighbouring cells in zhone and not in Cellhunter? That kinda excludes problem in framework. Leonti On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Freitag, den 06.03.2009, 17:45 +0100 schrieb Pander: I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version, that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells. Please take a look at fso/milestone5.5 branch, Jan added a patch that makes it work again with the latest framework. Hopefully that will be soon available via opkg upgrade. ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Navit is not finding current position
Hello! I've just installed navit from it's repository. I use SHR - testing distro. Fisrt I start TangoGPS and wait for fix (with latest frameworkd it's quite quick), than, after fix is got and I'm sure fso-gpsd is working I start Navit. But nothing indicates that it has found it's position. In Menu - Actions coordinates are still 48 and 11 (factory ones). How can I see my actual position? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells
What does this patch do? Why Zhone shows neighbouring cells ok, and Cellhunter doesn't? Leonti On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de wrote: Pander schrieb: I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version, that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells. mmh, i use shr testing without problems. did you upgrade (i did not)? the latest fso version requires the patch from jan. i will integrate it at on sunday i guess. Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Packages mismatch ?
I had the same problem. Looks like Packages.gz is not up to date. Just run opkg install http://openmoko.opendevice.org/build/shr-unstable/feed/armv4t/shr-settings_0.1. 0+r75+db5ab33d99dfaddafd61143c90ba5da5f3a42150-r2_armv4t.ipk to get newest version. Leonti On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM, boilers...@gmail.com boilers...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to upgrade 'SHR Testing' for the first time. Ofter an 'opkg update', attempting an 'opkg upgrade' results in the following: r...@om-gta02 /etc/opkg $ opkg upgrade Upgrading shr-settings on root from 0.1.0+r4c57ad048840ca7fcffe440e98043e57eeb40a6a-r2 to 0.1.0+r72+8bb135bd2297712aa15cd315d28fcdc82b49aadb-r2... Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4t/shr-settings_0.1.0+r72+8bb135bd2297712aa15cd315d28fcdc82b49aadb-r2_armv4t.ipk Collected errors: * Failed to download http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4t/shr-settings_0.1.0+r72+8bb135bd2297712aa15cd315d28fcdc82b49aadb-r2_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download shr-settings. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Word processing application
Thanks all for answering! I'm using SHR - unstable (testing now). Solved my problem by installing leafpad - simple, but with word wrapping :) Also compiled abiword with OE, but didn't install yet. Leonti On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sven Bretfeld sven.bretf...@gmx.ch wrote: Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available? Emacs can be installed from one of the user-repositories mentioned at the openmoko website. I cannot remember which one. But it worked only with problems on my device. Sometimes it didn't start at all, not even in a shell. I would recommend to install Debian on the SD card [¹]. In Debian you can install everything including Abiword and Emacs. I even had LaTeX installed on my OM. Greetings Sven [¹] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner. -- Sven Bretfeld CERES -- CEntrum für REligionswissenschaftliche Studien Ruhr-Universität Bochum Universitätsstraße 150 D-44780 Bochum ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Word processing application
I've just added it to opkg.org: http://www.opkg.org/package_152.html Pleae let me know if it depends on something that you don't have - I will add it. Leonti On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Could you point out the link to leafpad ipf file please ? I would like to try it :D Thanks 2009/3/4 Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com Thanks all for answering! I'm using SHR - unstable (testing now). Solved my problem by installing leafpad - simple, but with word wrapping :) Also compiled abiword with OE, but didn't install yet. Leonti On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sven Bretfeld sven.bretf...@gmx.ch wrote: Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available? Emacs can be installed from one of the user-repositories mentioned at the openmoko website. I cannot remember which one. But it worked only with problems on my device. Sometimes it didn't start at all, not even in a shell. I would recommend to install Debian on the SD card [¹]. In Debian you can install everything including Abiword and Emacs. I even had LaTeX installed on my OM. Greetings Sven [¹] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner. -- Sven Bretfeld CERES -- CEntrum für REligionswissenschaftliche Studien Ruhr-Universität Bochum Universitätsstraße 150 D-44780 Bochum ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Language of hardware keyboard
Hello! Yesterday I tried to connect my hardware keyboard to Freerunner. I'm using SHR - testing and I used [1] to make it work. But the language of the keyboard is English. How do I change that? Leonti 1. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=blob_plain;f=packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver;h=a26c5c2d702dd427529f5c67e94058456bc49407 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Language of hardware keyboard
¡Muchas gracias! I found a script which uses xmodmap for polish keyboard. After some modifications it works perfectly! Leonti On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Jorge Luis Chamorro chamo...@plug.org.ar wrote: Helge Hafting escribió: Leonti Bielski wrote: Hello! Yesterday I tried to connect my hardware keyboard to Freerunner. I'm using SHR - testing and I used [1] to make it work. But the language of the keyboard is English. How do I change that? There are at least two ways: 1. Select a proper keyboard in /etc/X11/xorg.conf the file shoukld have a section like this for a Norwegian keyboard. For another language, replace no with whatever you need. Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout no EndSection However, the FR ships without a xorg.conf file. So some experimentation is needed to see if it honors the file, and if you need to install extra keyboard files that not necessarily comes with the device. 2. Remap the keyboard using xmodmap The FR ships with xmodmap, so you can write a script that uses several xmodmap commands, one per key that differ from english layout. Then arrange so the script is executed whenever X starts on your freerunner. Helge Hafting With xmodmap : I configure the keyboard on my Desktop PC and run xmodmad -pke keys-on-pc.txt and also run xmodmad -pke keys-on-neo.txt on my neo. Then I put some info from keys-on-pc.txt to keys-on-neo.txt and create a modified version of keys-on-neo.txt So when I plug the external keyboard I run xmodmad keys-on-neo-modified.txt. If I put keys-on-pc.txt directly on Neo I have problems with some keys ( arrows ) Saludos , Jorge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GSM Buzz fix, warranty and hopes...
The legality of DOA (Dead On Arrival) warranty depends on country of sale. In USA it's totally legal. In Poland 1 year minimum warranty has to be added. Don't know about other EU countries. All of the issues were described on the official webpage, so it's like buying used phone and than complaining about scratches. So basically all those flaws (buzz, gps, #1024 bug) were part of the hardware you bought and warranty should not cover them. All other flaws like screen stops working, some connectors not working - anything that was not described and occured during normal usage of the phone - should be covered by warranty if you have one. I'm not a lawyer but it seems logical to me. Leonti On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:29 PM, MarcO'Chapeau ma...@marcochapeau.org wrote: Hello lists, hello Openmoko and hello dear reseller It is not my first time asking this both on the lists and to Trisoft. It won't be the last I fear... Do we have any hope for a mass fix for the GSM Buzz issue or will we have to buy a GTA03 (and get new hardware issues) ? I am more and more thinking that warranty at Openmoko is a do-it-yourself concept... While I am not a lawyer I would think a do-it-yourself warranty is no warranty, and we are meant to have one... This is not just ranting. Legally, I would say Openmoko would be troubled if some consumer association started asking questions. Same goes for Trisoft, which remain unusually silent when I ask this kind of question without being public about it. Now that everybody is in CC, let's get some answers. To me and probably many other users the critical question is not whether hardware issues get fixed fast or not. The question is a purely logistical one. Will the devices that have been sold so far be fixed one day ? Marc-Olivier Barre. -- Participez au black-out anti-HADOPI : http://www.laquadrature.net/fr/APPEL-HADOPI-blackout-du-net-francais ___ hardware mailing list hardw...@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/hardware ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Word processing application
Thanks all for your help! GNUtoo, I followed your suggestion number 1. Thanks. I've just installed Abiword from my local OE repository and I have to say that it's really cool stuff! It's a little too much to what I want to do (leafpad is enough), but ability to work with complicated word processing files on my phone is great! Leonti On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:21 PM, GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 18:08 +0100, Leonti Bielski wrote: Hi! I'm looking for some kind of word processing application. I want to use my Freerunner in a library so I would not have to bring laptop with me - only the keyboard. I've heard of AbiWord, but can't manage to find an ipk package for it. Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available? Can someone suggest something else for text editing? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I've compiled both...so you have 3 solutions 1)compile it yourself with openembedded...I can give you my recipes 2)find the packages in an official distro I found emacs(non-x11 version) in FSO's unstable repository 3)find them in my repositories(split in 2 because of a data-loss) but I don't like this idea because: *my connection is slow in upload *I'm not an official repository = the software comes with no kind of support at all,specially because I had data loss and if there is a problem with the first repository(and there are some such as wesnoth lacking libpng3 as rdepend) I will have to bitbake the recipe again...and the libs have to be bitbaken again...wich takes a lot of time... *I had not the time of investigating why I can't change the fonts with emacs-x11 Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Word processing application
Hi! I'm looking for some kind of word processing application. I want to use my Freerunner in a library so I would not have to bring laptop with me - only the keyboard. I've heard of AbiWord, but can't manage to find an ipk package for it. Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available? Can someone suggest something else for text editing? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-ustable] gprs is also unstable
Yes, I do :( I think this is because not in every place gprs is available all the time. When connection is lost it does not recover. I think it is more of FSo problem than SHR. Leonti On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:39 PM, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello community, unstableness of SHR(which name claims stability) follows with instablity of GPRS connection. Several minutes and it is over, you have to restart it manually. Does anyone else experience this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: illume keyboard - only navigate buttons
Thanks! It's even better than I expected to find! Valuable info. Leonti On 2/26/09, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Leonti Bielski wrote: Some time ago on scap.linuxtogo.org I've seen illume keyboard only with navigate buttons - right, left, up, down and some others. I would like to use it for navigation in browsers - right know I use terminal keyboard to navigate through web-page in links-x11. Does anyone know where I can find it? A custom keyboard isn't that difficult to make. An illume keyboard is just a textual list of keys: Coordinates for where the key is, how big it is, what function (letter or cursor key) it performs. So you can copy the terminal keyboard file, /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Terminal.kbd Then you simply delete the keys you don't need from the copy. Finally, make the remaining keys bigger by adjusting their coordinates. To use your new keyboard, save the new file as: /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Navigation.kbd Bring up the illume keyboard, press the little qwerty icon in the upper right corner, and select your special keyboard from the list. It will be there if you saved the file to the correct folder. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
Finally I found a repo with working links-x11! Dziękuję indeed. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:24:18 +0100 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com (JT) wrote: cd /etc/opkg wget http://openmoko.opendevice.org/build/shr-unstable/feed/shr-unstable-pl.conf Dziękuję bardzo :) btw watch for the line wraps whoever wants to use the above :) uff, these are tons of updates! what am i getting into? :) cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question
Hi! I'm running latest SHR unstable distribution and there is no way I can get gps fix. 1. System time and timezone are set correctly. 2. ogps.pickle removed. 3. Phone restarted. Still no fix. I even tried to reflash phone to om 2008.08 distro - Locations application can get my GPS position. When I'm back to SHR - no fix. I'm checking for fix with Zhone to 'cut the middle-man' and be sure it's gps, not fso-gpsd or any other problem. So shortly after I launch Zhone and press 'gps' button I see in terminal: Requested debug packet NAV-SVINFO gps fix status changed: 1 #it can't be real fix, because it happens in a few seconds gps got ubxdebug packet gps got ubxdebug packet # to infinity and beyond Please notice, that this test was made in the same exact location with an external antenna at approximately same time with om 2008.8 distro and SHR unstable with (2.6.28 kernel). I know a lot of people have problems with GPS in SHR Unstable, so it would be beneficial for all of us to find the problem. Can someone point me to low-level stuff I should check to get to the bottom of this? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FYP] Is it possible to change DPI?
Hi! I've just tried FYP distribution and it seems very interesting. I've connected to WiFi network without problems and even without command line :) Browser supports SSL so this is definitely a big pros for me. The only thing about FYP is that everything is so small. I can't even hit start menu from the first try. I'm sure it can come with practice, but still, I would like to make it bigger (still talking about DPI here :) ). Does it make any sense? I mean bigger fonts and everything could mess up the whole appearance and usability can descrease instead of increasing. If so, where can change the settings for fonts, buttons, etc... Right now I'm back to shr, so I can't really browse through settings to find out if it's even possible. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
Call me boring but I don't find funny mindless destruction. Maybe this girl is saying something that makes it funny? I don't speak German :( Leonti On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:31 PM, fla...@correo.ugr.es wrote: I came across this nice video: http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov Have fun :-) Lothar What was that about? I don't understand the narrator. The only thing that comes my mind is: JAILBREAKING. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
Thanks for clarifying. Now it actually makes sense! I'm not fan of iPhone either (on of the reasons I'm proud OM owner :D ) I totally agree with this point of view. Leonti On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: This is the translation about what they want to 'tell'. http://de.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=donett=urlintl=1fr=bf-hometrurl=http%3A%2F%2Fav.rds.yahoo.com%2F_ylt%3DA0geulgzOaRJk0AAbjqTLaMX%3B_ylu%3DX3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--%2FSIG%3D12lm9u62v%2FEXP%3D1235585715%2F**http%253a%2F%2Fit-republik.de%2Fzonen%2Fportale%2Fpsecom%2Cid%2C99%2Cnews%2C39646%2C.htmllp=de_enbtnTrUrl=Übersetzen Am 24.02.2009 um 16:23 schrieb Lothar Behrens: I came across this nice video: http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov Have fun :-) Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
It's capacitive. It responds only to human finger or special big-ass stylus. In both cases you can't get that kind of precision you can get with resistive touchscreen(like in openmoko). Leonti On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:17 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Whaaat? iPhone touchscreen can't be used with a stylus?? What is it, heat sensitive or something? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
I'm not sure It's a good idea for everyone. Personally I prefer SOFTWARE engine and not SOFTWARE_16 because of quality of image. Leonti On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Nicola Mfb wrote: 2009/2/23, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com: [...] About another things - change render mode to software_16, unload drop shadow module and maybe change framerate. This is becoming boring... why is it not the default? Could somebody please collect all these optimisations and set them in the configs used in the SHR and FSO build process? Thanks Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
AGPS question
Hi! Do I have to download aGPS data everytime when using GPS even if I stay in the same city? For example if I set radius of aGPS data to 150 km, it's more than enough for my movements. Or are also time limitations? I've read somewhere that aGPS data is enough for 4 hours or so. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mencoder converts, but no sound ?
What does mplayer says (in command line) about this while playing? Leonti On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: Hi, I am trying to convert a recorded VDR video with mencoder, but my FR gives no sound. Playing mp3 files works. Here is the command that I have from another post: mencoder $1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 -vf scale=320:240,eq2=1.2:0.5:-0.25,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -ofps 15 -lameopts br=64:cbr -o $2 What am I doing wrong ? Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
fso - charging question
Hello! I'm using latest frameworkd and andy-tracking. Right now my phone behaving like this - it's charging (orange led) until the led is blue, than after some time led turns orange again and charging starts. This is all while phone is connected to pc. This means - fso charges battery until it's full, than stops charging, battery discharges and the process is all over again. Does it supposed to be like this? I mean the expected behavior is like this - battery charges till it's full, led turns blue and because the phone is powered by pc, there is no need to discharge the battery and the led should not become orange again after it turned blue. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fso - charging question
I understand it, but why GSM dries _battery_ while connected? Why it is not possible to switch power source to usb completely? When I take my battery out phone is still working, so there is no need to actually drain battery while connected to power source. Isn't that right? Leonti On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: Does it supposed to be like this? I mean the expected behavior is like this - battery charges till it's full, led turns blue and because the phone is powered by pc, there is no need to discharge the battery and the led should not become orange again after it turned blue. It is expected behavior since GSM will drain the battery slowly and it needs to start recharging it again after a while. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2009 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fso - charging question
Thanks, that actually explains it. Leonti On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: I understand it, but why GSM dries _battery_ while connected? Why it is not possible to switch power source to usb completely? When I take my battery out phone is still working, so there is no need to actually drain battery while connected to power source. Isn't that right? GSM is connected directly to the battery afaik because it might need peak current that is more than USB can supply. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
Just go to http://software.opensuse.org/search , enter 'openmoko' and you'll get prebuilt toolchain for Opensuse, Fedora, Mandriva, etc. It's about 80MB and it's all you need to start writing programs for openmoko. Leonti On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:20:50 +1300, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/20 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com: Looks useful. I've been needing a nice calendar app. If someone could package these, that would be great. I would, but I can't use the toolchain. :( join the club i find it very frustrating that i and others have lots of software ideas, that can be coded/re-packaged, but we're hamstrung by what should be a fundamental piece of software that openmoko does everything in their power to support more developers = more software = more phones sold openmoko, any chance of working on this? Depending on your desktop environment, the instructions at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain are pretty useful regarding setting up the prepackaged toolchain, and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BitBake covers using BitBake to (re)build anything that sports a bitbake recipe. (starting with all of OM, OpenEmbedded, FSO, etc) If your need is to work under Windows, or if for some other reason (even simple convenience ;) you want a self-contained environment, you can find a vmware image of (X)Ubuntu with the toolchain qemu preinstalled and working at the 'FR stuff' link in my sig. Enlightenment E17 and support tools are installed as well though maybe a bit 'stale' as the image hasn't been updated in about three months... It also has bitbake, eclipse, and other stuff installed but not all 'fleshed out' yet. Unfortunately a completely 'tricked-out' development environment image with toolchain and bitbake and everything ready to roll would be quite a bit larger, and I'm not too keen on hosting a 3gb+ download on my personal server. The present 7z archive is about 1.7gb. (so if there's much interest in it, I'd be delighted if someone hosted it somewhere faster than the server in my garage - although my uplink is over 1mbps) I keep meaning to reconstruct the image from scratch with the most recent of everything, but haven't found the time to do so yet. Maybe I'll set aside Saturday to get started on this... The last time took a couple days, what with waiting for downloads, installing/updating/purging a few hundred packages, etc. j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacement Battery with 2300mAh, possible?
Sometimes they are not putting the right specifications on the batteries. Right now I have in my other phone (k700i) battery with the capacity double of the original one. But this is just a label. Uptime is the same as with the original battery. My point being that for more capacity you need to have bigger battery. It's not possible to contain more energy in the same amount of electrolyte. Ate least not for a battery for 11 euro. Leonti On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Daniel Spies daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com wrote: Hi list, I was search for a more powerful battery and found [1]. It seems this would match in the slot of the FR, but I wanted to make sure if I can apply such a battery without killing the hardware. If I understand right this battery should give me almost doubled uptime, right? Thanks for your comments! Cheers, Daniel [1] http://www.amazon.de/Power-Handy-Baugleich-BL-5C- BL5C/dp/B001AP27Y6/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8s=ce-deqid=1232405231sr=1-7 (sorry, it's German, I was searching for a equivalent item on amazon.com, but without success) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Multiple internet connections
Hello! Is it possible to use multiple internet connections on Freerunner at the same time? Say I want to use ssh via GPRS, and all other programs via WLAN or usb. Is it possible? Real life example - in my university we have very good unlimited WiFi, actually 2 of them. In my dormitory room I have connection limited by proxy (no torrent :(). What I want to do is to leave my FR at school at some place safe, connect it to wall charger, insert 4GB memory card in it, and turn on gprs connection. Then I would go home, log in to my phone via GPRS, then connect to WIFI and start downloading some stuff via torrent on my memory card. Neat :D Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] disabling suspend
In FSO you can request Display or CPU resources for preventing going into suspend: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commit;h=4fecf8d41e900c02bb1cd1d9e783c494059c8299 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Usage.html;hb=f77848094654b56348b0fd0d57054846c2e7074a#RequestResource Leonti On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:37 PM, rhn r...@o2.pl wrote: How to disable suspending? I'd like to have it off when I'm listening to music or using GPS, but not interacting with my FR. Is there some DBus method for that? Or a /sys/ switch? I think it should be listed on the Wiki somewhere (there are many possible reasons why people would like their device to stay awaken, regardless of their distro). A suggestion to frameworkd developers - (if this is not already done) preventing the device from going into suspend after an application has requested GPS resource would make sense if a fix is not acquired yet. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
I like the illume keyboard! I like it a lot. Word matching is working for me very well even for thumb. I get exact words with my finger in a majority of cases. Dictionaries. It seems like a lot of people blame Raster's keyboard for not getting word matches because of the lack of dictionary. Do you really expect Rasterman to make dictionaries for every language? Dictionary format is very simple. In conclusion - for our screen, from all possible qwerty keyboards - Raster's is the best one. Maybe some other inpout method would be good, but as for keyboard it's actually very very impressive. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Text editing - esay cursor moving idea
Hello! Today I went to youtube to listen some Neil Young songs and I found this video on the front page: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpxf28ja67Qfeature=dir What do you think? Can it be useful? Is it worth implementing into illume? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Nikolaus, I don't get what's wrong with my questions? 1. About the case design - it was a poll on ML about different types of case - with keypad, without, slider, etc. So I think it make sense to ask what was finally chosen. 2. GSM chip: Look in here how many chips were considered: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoForesight It makes sense to ask which one was chosen, doesn't it? 3. GTA03 is internal codename, like GTA01 and GTA02, but they are called Neo1973 and Neo Freerunner. I seriously doubt GTA03 will go on sale with GTA03 name. 4 and 5, don't want even bother to comment this. Leonti Hello! As proud Freerunner owner I'm interested in how the development of GTA03 goes. I'm not going to buy it - there is still a lot of fun with FR, but it would be interesting to know something about next open phone. Wiki page is outdated and there is no updates on ML. Does someone know how everything is going with gta03? 1. What case design is chosen? A good one. 2. What gsm chip? The best one! 3. How will it be called? GTA03! 4. When is release date (+/- 3 month :)) ? 12:00 (I don't know on which day) 5. Price estimate. Comparable to others. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Stage of GTA03 development?
Hello! As proud Freerunner owner I'm interested in how the development of GTA03 goes. I'm not going to buy it - there is still a lot of fun with FR, but it would be interesting to know something about next open phone. Wiki page is outdated and there is no updates on ML. Does someone know how everything is going with gta03? 1. What case design is chosen? 2. What gsm chip? 3. How will it be called? 4. When is release date (+/- 3 month :)) ? 5. Price estimate. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
I don't think closing such information (which is not any dangerous inside info) would be a good policy for a company which main goal is creating an OPEN phone ;) Some of the questions like availability and price are not important to me because I'm not going to buy it anyway, but I'm interested in specifications :D Leonti On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: Leonti Bielski schrieb: Hello! As proud Freerunner owner I'm interested in how the development of GTA03 goes. I'm not going to buy it - there is still a lot of fun with FR, but it would be interesting to know something about next open phone. Wiki page is outdated and there is no updates on ML. Does someone know how everything is going with gta03? 1. What case design is chosen? 2. What gsm chip? 3. How will it be called? 4. When is release date (+/- 3 month :)) ? 5. Price estimate. Leonti If i were openmoko (some person inside who knows about it), i would not answer this questtion(s), because some people would react like omg, you are rippig us off. I still can't use my fr as a daily phone. the optimization team was disbanded, because you guys are focusing on the next gen device, while the fr still lacks a lot of features/stability/etc.. just my opinion ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enjoy!
I think I've seen it on scat.linuxtogo.org some time ago. It means someone run it succesfully on FR. Sorry, don't know any details. Leonti On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Martino manda@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Some one is working around this http://profusion.mobi/node/10 ?? Is possible to have a ipkg on opkg.org!! I find it great.. And for now I don't found nothing similar.. Thanks -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enjoy!
Sorry, scap.linuxtogo.org of course. Leonti On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: I think I've seen it on scat.linuxtogo.org some time ago. It means someone run it succesfully on FR. Sorry, don't know any details. Leonti On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Martino manda@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Some one is working around this http://profusion.mobi/node/10 ?? Is possible to have a ipkg on opkg.org!! I find it great.. And for now I don't found nothing similar.. Thanks -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips!
Hello and welcome to OM community :) 1.) This is so-called buzzing issue. It's hardware related and in a week or so a paper explaining how to do a fix will be available. You can read about it from those links: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td675090|a675090 2.) From what you've written it seems like you don't suspend your phone. What image do you use? Anyways, you have to enable autosuspend - so phone will go to sleep while not being used and wake up only on certain events - call/message/cable connected/headset connected. Without suspend phone can work only for about 8 hours or a little more. With suspend my phone can be waiting for calls for a couple of days without any problems. Battery life is for a long time not a problem anymore. Tips: try to manually suspend your phone using power button (asu/fso/shr/debian). On QtExtended if I recall correctly autosuspend is disabled by default so you have to enable it to get the most of your battery life :) Leonti On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Dave Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, Just a few questions really to kick start me being on this list. :-) I received my FreeRunner about a week or so ago and have just about got around to playing with it a bit more and actually using it. It's running FDOM based on recommendations, and picked up my Orange SIM and contacts without difficulty. A few issues I have had though: 1) Recipients of phone calls consistently seem to report a buzz / crackling during calls made from the FreeRunner. Apparently the buzz is particularly prevelant when I stop speaking, whilst I'm speaking the line seems to be clear enough - anyone suffered a similar issue and know / suspect it's cause? 2) Battery Life. I was warned by people before getting the phone that battery life wasn't great as of yet, and as I understand from what I have it is a fairly high priority. However, what do you folks do to maximise life out of your battery? The reason I ask is that with everything (bar GSM) turned off, and the phone mostly locked / on standby (30 second timeout for standby and blank screen are set up at the moment) I am struggling to get even 12 hours life out of it. To give an example from today, where I didn't get chance to glance at the phone whilst at work, it went from being fully charged at 08:00 (I took it off charge from the Desktop at that point) to being powered down and without the juice to startup at 16:30. So, what do you all do to get the most out of it, and what sort of life do you get? Whilst I can live with the battery as a work in progress, the crackliness would be interesting to find out if it's just my unit suffering, as it does make using it as my primary phone a little difficult! Thanks in advance, Dave ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mplayer with glamo and audio - very slow
I tried it with andy-tracking kernel and with mplayer -vo glamo my_file.avi it worked well. But when I tried to resize it with -zoom -x 480 -y 620 it started to play slow again. Is there any way to make scaling in glamo chip? My conclusion that the sound problem lies in kernel - I switched back to 2.6.24 and I can't play video with sound again. Leonti On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Pierre Lascar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008 à 13:51 +, Antony King a écrit : I seem to recall there was an issue a while back with pulseaudio transcoding the audio on the fly between identical formats and gobbling CPU in the process. Could that be a possibility here ? I used -vo oss with alsa-oss on 2008.9, so there should be no pulseaudio around. Pierre. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Why echo solution is not in framework?
Hello! A lot of FSO, SHR users use echo solution from: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1486414|a1518726 to get rid of echo. It works very well. So why it is still not in framework git? Does it have some drawbacks which can't allow fso guys to include it in frameworkd? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mplayer with glamo and audio - very slow
Hello! I'm trying to play some video preencoded for my phone with: mencoder file_to_encode.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 \ -vf scale=320:240,eq2=1.2:0.5:-0.25,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=64:cbr \ -o file_for_openmoko To watch it I run: mplayer -vo glamo -zoom -x 480 -y 640 your_file.avi It is played very slow and I get message from mplayer - your system is very slow or something like that. Than I tried it with -nosound option - and I don't get that message and the fps seem acceptable. I've always though video was an issue, but this shows me that audio can significantly slow down the playback. Should I encode my video differently? Or something else is wrong? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Audio format
I would recommend ogg too. I'm was using ogg file as my ringtone without any problems. Not sure about your distribution... Leonti On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, What is the best audio format for offering ringtones, notifications, etc.? I'd prefer .ogg because of its easy license and small file size. The .wav and .mp3 I'd shun for these reasons. Is this correct and is the phone capable of using .ogg as ringtones and notifications in both the OM part and the Qt part. Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
I didn't do this for my SHR and I have no echo. But a person I'm talking to hear an echo. Does this fix my echo (which I don't have anyway) or an echo for another person? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
I tried it and it's working great! Thanks. Leonti On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Carl Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the echo of the other person. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't do this for my SHR and I have no echo. But a person I'm talking to hear an echo. Does this fix my echo (which I don't have anyway) or an echo for another person? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Announce: omnewrotate 0.5.0
I like it. It works great. What is the best way to start it during login? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is startup log?
It's actually hard to believe no one reading this list knows where I can find boot log. The same which is displayed on the screen during startup. Anyone? Thanks. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is startup log?
Thanks! Did not know about logread - that was what I needed. Leonti On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Vikas Saurabh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know exactly where the startup logs are...dmesg and logread are helpful at times. But, what you observed happened to me once with Om2008.8 when I changed my feed to testing and upgraded. It gave lots of warning about gtk+ trying to overwrite files installed using gtk-fastscaling+ and after everything it stuck to where you are. Takeaway: don't mix feeds (unless of course you exactly know which packages you should blah blah...for users like me, don't mix the feeds work beautifully) On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I'm using SHR. I've installed some applications, did opkg upgrade and now illume doesn't start. It loads illume (I can see very nice progress bar), but then it return to console which says something like: om-gta02 login: 31 om-gta02 tty1ered by Angstrom om-gta02 tty1 SPANK SPANK!*** Anyways, where can I get startup log files to investigate the origin of the problem? Thanks. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Announce: omnewrotate 0.5.0
Thanks! It works perfectly - now I can rotate my screen just by rotating my phone. Neat :) Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Announce: omnewrotate 0.5.0
It might be a problem with accelerometers. Try this: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1493922|a1493922 If it affecting Doom it might also affect rotate program. I put those two line in .profile and I don't have any problems. Leonti On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:07 AM, ivvmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leonti Bielski wrote: I like it. It works great. I have some strange behaviour with this application. Sometimes it just freeze. Not the phone, but it suddenly stops rotating at point it stopped. Usually not normal one. I use FDOM 20081023. Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Problems with making local repository
Hello! I use OE environment and I would like to use ipk files it produces to install on my FR using opkg. My problem is that OE doesn't include all of the compiled packages to Packages,gz. So after reading some ipkg instructions I run: ipkg-make-index dir_with_ipks But it gives me errot like: tar: *control: Not found in archive tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors tar: Pattern matching characters used in file names. Please, tar: use --wildcards to enable pattern matching, or --no-wildcards to tar: suppress this warning. Does anyone know how to solve this? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems with making local repository
I found the solution - you just have to change line nr. 155 in file ipkg.py from ipkg-utils to: control = os.popen(ar p +fn+ control.tar.gz | tar xfzO - --wildcards '*control',r) I think it was a problem with tar version - ipkg-utils are from year 2005. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where can I get the last reasonably stable SHR-Version?
Where did you find any milestone-release? http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ clear says: SHR has not been released yet. There are only preview images so far. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I realy like them
Those are awesome! I'm glad OM users have healthy sense of humor :) Leonti On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Tim Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: drac2000 wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes :-p That's awesome. I pledge 10,000 imaginary internet lulz to the first person to come up with a *funny* joke where openmoko/the freerunner isn't the butt of the joke.. :) Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Survey about the Touchscreen
Big resolution means better image quality. We can run qvga apps on our vga screen, don't we? But how can we run vga apps on qvga screen? VGA screen is a step forward, QVGA is a step backward. For me it's clear. Leonti On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry for being imprecise. I was referring to the amazing resolution considering the size of the display. The freerunner got 300 dpi IIRC. For comparison, the iphone only seems to have 160. I usually demo the crispness (if you will) of my neo's screen using top on the terminal at the smallest readable fontsize to great effect :) 2008/11/21 Anton Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You mean, the only thing that truly blows them away is the resolution of the screen... Which you can have with any type of modern LCD panel, can you not? /Anton On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 indeed, the screen is about the only thing that truly blows people's minds away atm... 2008/11/21 Ken Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Denis Galvao wrote: On 21/11/2008, at 13:20, Ken Young wrote: Really, we don't need a hi res screen on a day by day gadget I could not possibly disagree more strongly. So, give me a reason where you will need that. As long as we have at least a VGA resolution screen, it is relatively easy for us to port linux desktop applications to the Openmoko phones. Once we drop down to HVGA, or (heaven forbid!) QVGA, there will need to be extensive UI redesign to get most apps. from the desktop world to run on an OM phone, especially when a soft keyboard is needed. So reducing the resolution will greatly reduce the code base we can leverage. In addition, I don't think you can ever had too many pixels on a machine you intend to run a web browser on. Right now, when I show someone my Freerunner, the only thing that impresses them is the display. It would be a shame if OM dropped the one part of its hardware that is actually superior to what is found on other smartphones. Ken Young ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Survey about the Touchscreen
Why do we need capacitive display? We still are not going to solve hanging up during the call - because capacitive screen does it too - the only way to avoid that is by doing it in software. Someone said - it will be a good motivation to make programs more finger-friendly. What I like about Freerunner is that I can find some program, compile it and use it straight on Freerunner. With the capacitive screen we can forget about most gtk, fltk apps, just because they need stylus to be used. Do we really want to have a system that is based on linux, but looks like every other phone platform? Now imagine we have calc sheet application on the phone. Whis the resolution of FR we can see really a lot, and what is important we can manipulate cells in it. Can you do it with your finger? (with the capacitive touchscreen you can't even use your fingernail). What I mean is that the ability to use other objects to manipulate the screen is an advantage, not a disadvantage. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
