Re: Survey about the Touchscreen
+1 indeed, the screen is about the only thing that truly blows people's minds away atm... 2008/11/21 Ken Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Denis Galvao wrote: On 21/11/2008, at 13:20, Ken Young wrote: Really, we don't need a hi res screen on a day by day gadget I could not possibly disagree more strongly. So, give me a reason where you will need that. As long as we have at least a VGA resolution screen, it is relatively easy for us to port linux desktop applications to the Openmoko phones. Once we drop down to HVGA, or (heaven forbid!) QVGA, there will need to be extensive UI redesign to get most apps. from the desktop world to run on an OM phone, especially when a soft keyboard is needed. So reducing the resolution will greatly reduce the code base we can leverage. In addition, I don't think you can ever had too many pixels on a machine you intend to run a web browser on. Right now, when I show someone my Freerunner, the only thing that impresses them is the display. It would be a shame if OM dropped the one part of its hardware that is actually superior to what is found on other smartphones. Ken Young ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Survey about the Touchscreen
sorry for being imprecise. I was referring to the amazing resolution considering the size of the display. The freerunner got 300 dpi IIRC. For comparison, the iphone only seems to have 160. I usually demo the crispness (if you will) of my neo's screen using top on the terminal at the smallest readable fontsize to great effect :) 2008/11/21 Anton Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You mean, the only thing that truly blows them away is the resolution of the screen... Which you can have with any type of modern LCD panel, can you not? /Anton On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 indeed, the screen is about the only thing that truly blows people's minds away atm... 2008/11/21 Ken Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Denis Galvao wrote: On 21/11/2008, at 13:20, Ken Young wrote: Really, we don't need a hi res screen on a day by day gadget I could not possibly disagree more strongly. So, give me a reason where you will need that. As long as we have at least a VGA resolution screen, it is relatively easy for us to port linux desktop applications to the Openmoko phones. Once we drop down to HVGA, or (heaven forbid!) QVGA, there will need to be extensive UI redesign to get most apps. from the desktop world to run on an OM phone, especially when a soft keyboard is needed. So reducing the resolution will greatly reduce the code base we can leverage. In addition, I don't think you can ever had too many pixels on a machine you intend to run a web browser on. Right now, when I show someone my Freerunner, the only thing that impresses them is the display. It would be a shame if OM dropped the one part of its hardware that is actually superior to what is found on other smartphones. Ken Young ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
1) or 2) could then keep the software stack more minimal - no software keyboard necessary, so us geeks can run some ncurses/terminal based minimal UI and freak people out. 2008/10/25 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve Would be my option. Paul -- Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. -Publius Syrus http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
2) or 3) could then keep the software stack more minimal - no software keyboard necessary, so us geeks can run some ncurses/terminal based minimal UI and freak people out. (forget my previous mail, nasty brainfart there) 2008/10/25 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1) or 2) could then keep the software stack more minimal - no software keyboard necessary, so us geeks can run some ncurses/terminal based minimal UI and freak people out. 2008/10/25 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve Would be my option. Paul -- Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. -Publius Syrus http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
[Sorry, this may be slightly off topic] May I draw the attention of those whom it might concern to the following article on LWN, where some guys got linux to boot on an eee pc in 5 seconds: http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ Am I the only one whose eyes are dreamy and glazed over after reading this? Can we learn anything from this? 2008/10/13 Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:48:50 +0200, David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 00:42 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: Which one way or another goes to highlight that Qi - as it stands now and from what I understand of the intention for it - will not be usable for a dual-boot setup. Not a problem actually, as NOR uBoot will let us achieve that, and I realize that the common target case will be a user who wants a smartphone, not a multiboot development platform. I just realized that the default behavior of Qi being uSD and the default behavior of uBoot being NAND means you could place 'primary' on uSD and 'secondary' in NAND, and booting to secondary is just two-step - NOR boot with aux+power, then power again to boot. Don't you love that feeling when things start to click? :) Now I have Base/Empty firing up by default, Raster+FSO if I use aux to invoke NOR Uboot. j I'm not a kernel hacker only a user, but as I undertand It would be better to invert that behaviour, better to primary boot from NAND and then secondary boot on uSD, a normal user must boot his phone even without any uSD. Normal boot to nand, and if you want to boot from anything else do something else. It's a pitty than NOR uboot doesn't allow to boot from uSD by default, but this fault does't have to change the logical behaviour NAND is attached to the phone and is less likely blow up the hole S.O. sa mistake by a normal user putting some music in his uSD card trough a 2.0 Card reader :) seekeng for some free space If there's NO uSD, or the uSD doesn't contain a folder named 'boot' on the first partition, with a file named 'uImage.bin', then Qi will boot from NAND. It's just if you WANT a dual-boot environment that currently Qi doesn't let you do that simply. As Andy noted in his response to that post, however, he plans for Qi to support user selection of boot, it just doesn't do it at this time. Until it offers the ability to select, then the present behavior (check for kernel on uSD, else use NAND) makes more sense that always going to NAND and only NAND. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
It might be a case of the transformator working in reverse: A small voltage applied to the usb output leads to a high voltage at the prongs. This could also be caused by a capacitator on the low voltage end, but I am not sure. Just guessing here. However, if you were to touch the prongs the moment they were out of the socket, the coil could still hold some potential to shock you. Also just guessing. Thorben 2008/10/9 Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, this morning, I pulled the FR adapter out of the (230 VAC) socket, and accidentally touched one of the prongs. I experienced a short shock. Is there a capacitor in there that can do that? It was fully out of the socket when I touched it! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
2008/9/11 Didier Raboud [EMAIL PROTECTED]: nickd wrote: http://cnettv.cnet.com/9742-1_53-50003669.html This would be awesome. -Nick But proprietary... Unix being proprietary did not stop Linux. I figure they use some basic reinforcement learning techniques... No need to have a look at their code to do the same as they do. Take a look at the other method previously pointed by Dan : http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ It's GPL... Regards, OdyX -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Get spare parts in NYC (batteries)
the batteries should be pretty standart stuff. I got the same form factor in my nokia (although it is a bit shorter, the connectors are in the right place and the width is the same). I suggest you should simply walk into the next mobile accessory store with the battery to get a compatible one. No need to import anything if I am correct. Thorben 2008/9/9 Stefan Fröbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I'll be in New York beginning of October and would like to purchase 2 spare batteries for my FR - any hints on where I could get them? Is there a local distributor or buyers group with active orders, by any chance? Thanks, Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FR won't boot without going into uboot menu first
My FreeRunner won't boot unless I hold down the AUX button while powering up and select boot manually from the menu. This problem started to appear when I had piped junk into all mtdblock devices on my FR. (I had misinterpreted one of the wiki pages about images (the instructions were intended for the host machine, not the FR itself)) I reflashed my FR with another image, but as the previously working suspend was not doing so any more, I eventually decided to update uboot. This solved my suspend issues somewhat but not the boot problems. Yes, I also toyed with different uImages, to no avail. So what does happen if I press the power button without AUX? After a few seconds, I get an AUX-button blink, a soft vibration (I like this actually) and at the same time, the display lights up, but instead of showing me any bootup screen, it displays the the contents of some video buffer (i.e. some random lines of noise or even the entire last screen contents before shutdown). Holding down the power button for any period of time at this stage yields nothing. I have to remove the battery. (Worries about backplate durability anyone?) Any suggestions? Thorben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Please split this list!
Please consider splitting this mailinglist into sublists, i.e. each handling its own distribution... All the best, Thorben PS: Yes I know how to handle filtering on the client side. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm
And where would I change this keybinding exactly? 2008/8/18 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:54:28 +0200 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: if its asu or 2008.08 - AUX is a grabbed key - the wm grabs it for screenlock. that means its already taken as a global key (just like pressing alt+tab on your desktop will begin to cycle windows, but the app will NEVER SEE alt+tab as its stolen for another use). this is keybinding configuration for e/illume (you can change bindings, but you'd lose the quick AUX lock. same for power button). On Mon 18 August 2008 om 08:28:06 GMT Thorben Krueger told us: sorry, brainfart on my part. I thought you were referring to the AUX button moddable by xmodmap. This is no longer possible for some reason. Strange that AUX doesn't send keyevents anymore. Anyone care to explain why? Anyways, using some very simple perl and http://sourceforge.net/projects/x11guitest you can send almost any event you would ever want to a X11 application. So that might work. 2008/8/18 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Xmodmap USED to do the trick but this has changed since. I don't know why this functionality was removed... 2008/8/17 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun 17 August 2008 om 17:18:16 GMT Thorben Krueger told us: Maybe one of you knows a solution? Any terminal app that can send keycodes to a running application? xmodmap might do the trick -- Forwarded message -- From: Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/8/17 Subject: Re: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, putting a custom key into the aux menu could do the trick, too. How do I send a keycode to a running program? would be pretty neat to have that feature. 2008/8/17 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need an application (scummvm) to rebind aux button to F5. AUX used to send a keyboard event, but this was removed. Would be glad for help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- I don't give a fuck if they remember me at all. -- Frank Zappa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm
Xmodmap USED to do the trick but this has changed since. I don't know why this functionality was removed... 2008/8/17 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun 17 August 2008 om 17:18:16 GMT Thorben Krueger told us: Maybe one of you knows a solution? Any terminal app that can send keycodes to a running application? xmodmap might do the trick -- Forwarded message -- From: Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/8/17 Subject: Re: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, putting a custom key into the aux menu could do the trick, too. How do I send a keycode to a running program? would be pretty neat to have that feature. 2008/8/17 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need an application (scummvm) to rebind aux button to F5. AUX used to send a keyboard event, but this was removed. Would be glad for help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm
sorry, brainfart on my part. I thought you were referring to the AUX button moddable by xmodmap. This is no longer possible for some reason. 2008/8/18 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Xmodmap USED to do the trick but this has changed since. I don't know why this functionality was removed... 2008/8/17 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun 17 August 2008 om 17:18:16 GMT Thorben Krueger told us: Maybe one of you knows a solution? Any terminal app that can send keycodes to a running application? xmodmap might do the trick -- Forwarded message -- From: Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/8/17 Subject: Re: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, putting a custom key into the aux menu could do the trick, too. How do I send a keycode to a running program? would be pretty neat to have that feature. 2008/8/17 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need an application (scummvm) to rebind aux button to F5. AUX used to send a keyboard event, but this was removed. Would be glad for help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Best mixer settings?
Hi, The complexity of alsamixer overwhelms me. Well not really, but I can't seem to make any difference in the crappy audio quality during calls. Would anyone who has figured out how to get rid of the echo during calls (or improved audio quality in general) please post their *.state files somewhere? Thorben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm
Maybe one of you knows a solution? Any terminal app that can send keycodes to a running application? -- Forwarded message -- From: Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/8/17 Subject: Re: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, putting a custom key into the aux menu could do the trick, too. How do I send a keycode to a running program? would be pretty neat to have that feature. 2008/8/17 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need an application (scummvm) to rebind aux button to F5. AUX used to send a keyboard event, but this was removed. Would be glad for help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
