Want to get another freerunner with some cheap deal
Hi, I have lost my FR a week back. So, I have now switched to a _usual_ phone. Since then I have started to feel that I should continue phone functions on this _usual_ phone as that can allow me to experiment on FR. So, I want to buy another FR as cheap as possible (2nd hand is not an issue). Buzz/Bass fixes won't really make a difference as I won't be using it for a phonebut they are welcome anyways :) I am in India (which is why idasystems is also in the To list). Interested people can mail to me directly --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote: Why don't we really combine all efforts instead of making a huge and heavy fso which is indeed short of a good phone into something more specific and quicker. IIRC, FSO is pretty quick to start...most of the time spent is for X, wm, etc (may be udev also plays a role there...I've never benchmarked). For me, opimd had been quite slow (i've some 1500 messages and may be double that phone logs...and im reluctant to remove those...fresh db hardly took any time). I am still to update my phone to new opimd...I really hope that the new db structure does things faster...btw, opimd slowed down the things while coming...I think it loads everything at least once during initialization...but thats what *I* *think*. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] reading accelerometers to a text file
so im interested to know if there is a way to dump accelerometer information and gps information to text files. so that, hopefully, some day in the future i could see read them into a future application? or... if there are any developers just kinda hanging out drop me an email! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval has some sample scripts (in different scripting languages) to dump data. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ffalarms 0.3 -- recurring alarms
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ ffalarms icalerror.c:99: BADARG: Bad argument to function ffalarms: icalerror.c:100: icalerror_set_errno: Assertion `0' failed. Aborted r...@om-gta02 ~ $ any ideas? It happened to me as well...and its probably you have got an empty .ffalarms/alarms file in your home directory. Just delete the file and the app would come up again. I was about to report it...I guess empty file should be handled gracefully --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] process priority
I just noticed that framework is running with niceness 0 (while enlightenment is running with -10). Can this be the reason that sometimes it takes a long time for calls to respond? (one can easily observe UI freezes on litephone when disconnecting a call). It a wild hunch, but I can't really test it as I don't have a spare phone to call and test the theory. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher Release 0.39
2. How do I set an alarm that can wake up the phone from suspend? well, this might not be totally helpful, but ffalarms does that using atd (http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/tags/0.2.2/ffalarms/ffalarms.py?rev=25root=ffalarmssortby=revview=log function-set_alarm). I can't really say that I totally know how it works, but I'm sure you can work it out :)... there is FSO function setWakeupTime...but I don't think there can be multiple wakeup timesmoreover, atd would allow you to specify what to execute when the phone wakes up HTH --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR status
Yes, I've updated the firmware. The missed calls are because I can't answer them. I hit answer and the phone keeps ringing. The positive side is that I know who called and can call back. This happens to me on litephone...and I always thought that it was a litephone issue. Which phone-app do you use? (ophonekitd???, shr-launcher???) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
PS: BTW, we got the buzz fix in roughly this [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0EJ0z3prPXM/SqPZg8Zy1gI/Ars/0wRUtSvmFfg/s400/attachment-0001.jpeg] way you mean 1024 fix? oopsyup, that pic is for 1024 fix :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
You should edit it, not remove it: Change: ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never to ti_calypso_deep_sleep = always oh...the comment in the file said that adaptive was default...and i kinda like the word 'adaptive' (sounds catchy :)...should I change it to 'always' anyways ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Update, adaptive also results in same behaviour, changed to 'never' and seems ok now (for the past hour anyway). Need to work out whether the fix not proper or something else causing the behaviour. For me I am not seeing any issues(issue with resume) with either adaptive or never. So I have a working buzz free FR :D @Vibhav, try SHR-U for a dayjust to be sure that h/w is working fine ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas, how is your battery holding up without any charging? 47% since 9 am. If I click the illume-battery-gadget soon after resume, it shows some 28 hours remaining (I think thats what coulomb counter is reporting) --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote: Vikas, how is your battery holding up without any charging? 47% since 9 am I mean haven't put the phone on charging since 9 am...it was on 100% when i disconnected..btw, strangely first 20% dropped pretty fast (before lunch)...unsure if thats meaningful info! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:28 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote: Vikas, how is your battery holding up without any charging? 47% since 9 am I mean haven't put the phone on charging since 9 am...it was on 100% when i disconnected..btw, strangely first 20% dropped pretty fast (before lunch)...unsure if thats meaningful info! Any calls/ gprs / music? Just trying to compare to my non 1024 fixed A7 lots of calls (some 15-20~roughly 1 hour) [which actually more that my usual] and then more than usual restarts (trying to get the frameworkd.conf correct) and a lot of arbitrary resume from suspend to check on the battery --vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
A lot of thanks to IDA Systems (Rakshat and Zoheb) as Vibhav and I finally get the buzz fix done. And alongwith that our phones got blessed with the 1024 fix as well :D. Sorry for no pics of the naked moko being fixed. Regarding the fixes: Buzz fix: I (recepients of my calls) haven't been observing lots of buzz fix anyways (maybe due to my provider's freq range); so I don't know how much has the fix saved the day. One thing is for sure that the call quality hasn't degraded. 1024 fix: I am on SHR-U so avoiding deep sleep was just 1 line of config. Anyways, after the fix I have removed that line and haven't yet missed even a single call. So, I assume that the modem is indeed going to deep sleep without losing registration (Is there a better way to test it???). I haven't been able to check increase in battery life (today my phone would get zero juicelets see how long can it sustain) There is a small side effect...though I am unsure if it due to the h/w mods (but that I observe the issue just after the phone is fixed seems like to big a coincidence). If I let the phone go to auto-suspend (after being idle), and then bring it back to life by pressing power button then it goes back to sleep immediately after waking up. The second power button press resumes it normally. I don't observe this if I manually make it go to suspend or if it comes out of suspend due to call. --Vikas PS: BTW, we got the buzz fix in roughly this [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0EJ0z3prPXM/SqPZg8Zy1gI/Ars/0wRUtSvmFfg/s400/attachment-0001.jpeg] way ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Things are moving a little slow out here, so I think I should at least start trying to look for components. Hi All, Zoheb from IDA systems is in Delhi these days and the Delhi FR owners (basically just Vibhav and me :) are going to get our phones fixed on Wednesday. We are going for buzz fix and 1024. I tried to look for component for 1024 but 22uF-0805-ceramic capacitor was nowhere to be found. So, I have got some(50) 10uF-0805-ceramic caps instead and we are going for the fix described in this [1] image ref in [2]. The red line is where we would get the cap with proper insulation under/over/around it to avoid it touching anything un-intentionally. --Vikas [1] - http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0EJ0z3prPXM/SqPXZGiaLII/Ark/kqsx3vn9Gbo/s400/pic2.JPG [2] - http://neofundas.blogspot.com/2009/09/1024-hardware-fixdeep-sleep.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
You can order Ceramic Cap : 22uF-0805 in India from Farnell here: http://in.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c226m9pac7800/capacitor-0805-22uf-x5r/dp/1108326 I am already too tired of delaying the fix to delay it any further. So, I would be going with 10uF (Vibhav might differ???). But useful link for others nonetheless. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Litephone 0.1
If you find any bugs or have feature requests, just report them on www.litephone.org I am using SHR-U but for litephone had always been crashing on bootup. I have already filed a bug [1] for this. Was wondering if I am the only one facing the issue??? --Vikas [1]: http://www.litephone.org/ticket/2 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
is there a way to save/display the raw message so one can maybe extract
the URL manually somehow?
Although, bluesms.py mentioned at other placed in the thread is
nice...here is a snippet that does exactly what you want to do...
#!/usr/bin/env python
import dbus
import subprocess
bus = dbus.SystemBus()
msgs_obj = bus.get_object(org.freesmartphone.opimd,
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages)
msgsIFace = dbus.Interface(msgs_obj, org.freesmartphone.PIM.Messages)
queryPath = msgsIFace.Query({'SMS-alphabet':'binary', 'Direction':'in'})
queryObj = bus.get_object(org.freesmartphone.opimd, queryPath)
queryIFace = dbus.Interface(queryObj, org.freesmartphone.PIM.MessageQuery)
count = queryIFace.GetResultCount()
msgs = queryIFace.GetMultipleResults(count)
queryIFace.Dispose()
for msg in msgs:
sender = msg[Sender]
smsData = msg[SMS-data]
smsStr = ''
for charData in smsData:
character = chr(int(charData))
smsStr = smsStr + character
msgPath = msg[Path]
#subProc = subprocess.Popen([file, -bi, -],
stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stdin=subprocess.PIPE)
#msgType = subProc.communicate(smsStr)[0].strip()
#msgObj = bus.get_object(org.freesmartphone.opimd, msgPath)
#msgIFace = dbus.Interface(msgObj, org.freesmartphone.PIM.Message)
#msgIFace.Update({'SMS-content_mime':msgType})
print *
print Sender: + sender
print msgPath: + msgPath
print msgType: + msgType
print content following
print smsStr
print
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[SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking
Hi, Quite often when I get a call, all I see is the locked screen. Now, what I would expect is to able to accept the call without actually unlocking the phone. Can we have another slider like control with slider thumb in between. Moving the slide to left accepts the call and moving it to the right rejects it. --Vikas PS: I had a look at the TODO list in git( http://github.com/slyon/today/blob/b279a6af85352de0ca9db4ac3c1f4f06e086ed8b/TODO) and this didn't appear there ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Further reading: 1024:: Hi All, Shamsul Hassan from Bangalore has posted http://neofundas.blogspot.com/2009/09/1024-hardware-fixdeep-sleep.html regarding the various options about the 1024 fix. Shamsul is basically an elec and comm guy so I believe he would be able to assess various fixes with rather professional understanding :) Things are moving a little slow out here, so I think I should at least start trying to look for components. --Vikas PS: shamsul is in the process of getting an FR pretty soon (A7 or buzz fixed A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opimd: a bug (?) and how to list missed calls?
following
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-September/054567.html:
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query
org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query {'Answered':0}
ERROR:dbus.connection:Unable to set arguments ('{Answered:0}',) according
to signature u'a{sv}': type 'exceptions.TypeError': string indices must
be integers
but
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query
org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query {}
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query: Query -
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Queries/1
I am unsure if you want to use mdbus so as to get exact function calls
to make in your app or not...but
opimd-cli ca query Answered 0 Direction in
works as expected.
--Vikas
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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
I just wanted to be sure about date, by ...on Apr 20th. you mean 2010-04-10 ??? Isn't it too early for announcing? Ah...sorry my mistake.. I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a mail on this list to announce that IDA Systems would be having a buzz fix program in India. We still haven't been able to figure out how FRs would get at one place to get the fix done...so the actual buzz fix party date is not anywhere on the papers :( --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
If so, i would change text on CU from: IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers on Apr 20th to: On Apr 20th, IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers. Exact date of buzz fix is not known yet... I copied your text and have updated the text :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Let me know if you need any help. I think right now we have to figure out how to get FRs here. As of now, Chaitanya is in Payyannur(Kerala) and it might not be easy for him to send in his FR. He said that he would be here (Delhi) around Diwali, so that might be a good time to have the buzz fix party (@chaitanya: can you be elaborate about the dates, as I was planning to go to my place during diwali :(. For the bangalore guys, Alok had researched quite a bit about how to send in the phones (http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg51201.html). I guess Shashank would like to send in the phone alongwith Alok. @Ganesh: If your friend can do the buzz fix, then #1024 would be trivial for him and I myself am not sure about the bass fix. The mail thread would keep all of updated anyways. BTW, I guess Bangalore guys would need to get in touch with Zoheb to get the invoice and stuff that Shashank had mentioned. @Rakshat: Does Zoheb follow this list or should we CC him explicitly when some relevant mail/decision is sent/reached? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi guys, First off, I am terribly sorry for the delay. I was too busy with work of late. Anyways, I guess we need to plan on the dates and mode of transport of phones to NCR. Till now, I know of only following people (through this mail chain): NCR: Gora Mohanty (1973) Vibhav Sharma (FR - ??) /me Vikas Saurabh (FR - A5) -- In for buzz fix in 1024shaky about bass fix Bangalore: Shashank Bharadwaj () Alok G. Singh () Ganesh Krishna () ?: Chetan Chandel () I am unsure if 1973 also needs hardware mods...but I still took the liberty to include Gora. This number is very small as compared to 150 (number of FRs that Rakshat said have been sold in India)...is there anyone else? I wanted to all this in wiki but I don't think we are still planned enough to update http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty Regarding the fixes, there are basically 3 hardware mods: * Buzz fix - the whole point of starting the program * 1024 recamping fix - there is a lot of re-registration thereby reducing the battery time * Bass fix - probably, the FR circuitry cuts off certain frequencies thereby reducing quality audio output Further reading: 1024:: Re: The trivial #1024 GSM fix -- What you need is 0805 ceramic capacitor, 22uF, 6.3V (or more). fixing bug #1024 successful reports? -- And using ceramic cap is recommended because low ESR is needed and electrolitic caps can't provide that. If you connect your electrolitic cap in parallel with the original one (as you did) then you're probably ok but nevertheless i recommend to use ceramic. Also shield itself is connected to the GND plane so i wouldn't go that far for a ground. Bug #1024 (oscillating re-camping), a possible solution -- The other solution is to remove C1009 and replace it with a 22 uF capacitor. Daniel Willmann has done this successfully with a few phones. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/attachments/20090525/d968961a/attachment-0001.jpeg Bass fix:: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix -- One from Paul Ferster seems promising, the other one doesn't(can't) use the 100uF cuz of the size https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/gta02-core/2009-August/000366.html -- describes which capacitor is good and why --Vikas PS: I think we can start off with getting ready for delivering FR (from Bang...anywhere else???). I guess Zoheb would be right person to streamline this process!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
You might get some luck by announcing it on CU. Depends on how soon do you plan to organize fix party. Is it better to announce tomorrow, or on next CU? [cut] I have updated http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02#Community. Hope thats fine! --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR clock reset
Timezone from GSM is already implemented for ages ;) I have often got wrong timezones reported by cell (thereby resetting my phone's clock and making me reach late somewhere :(...but thats a different story) I was wondering if shr-settings can get something like: Use cell timezone: * yes * no * ask --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again :(
Hi, Last night I did opkg upgrade and since then I am just getting 'No Service' in grey on the signal strength meter. Attached is a snip from my frameworkd.log[1] with log_level=DEBUG for ogsmd. Although, I have no idea about AT commands, the only thing that looks suspicious in the log is 'AT+COPS=3,0;+COPS?;+COPS=3,2;+COPS?' resulting in '+CME ERROR: 3'. BTW, I have an old (pretty old) yet working image of shr-u on another partition which registers perfectly. Was I not supposed to upgrade? Was there a red flag that I missed? And anyways, do I need to wait for some upgrade or this can be fixed rather easily (I would hate to reflash) --Vikas 1: http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3497827/snip.frameworkd.log.txt snip.frameworkd.log.txt -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/SHR-U-opkg-upgrade-results-in-no-GSM-again-tp3497827p3497827.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again :(
One more that has been bugging me with opkg of late is opkg list_upgradable always show up: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_upgradable libfsobasics0 - 0.8.1.0+gitr385+e70733ce85d7bb636b15d0cee1e63621480739c8-r6.1 - 0.8.1.0+gitr394+4893e3cfa02722b0a082c1c9d03bba7e30193fea-r6.1 libfsobasics0 - 0.8.1.0+gitr379+41f9525fd24145e5ed946d2b9293a036a09c22b8-r6.1 - 0.8.1.0+gitr394+4893e3cfa02722b0a082c1c9d03bba7e30193fea-r6.1 frameworkd-config-shr - 0.9.5.9+gitr1559+17898fc0f73453c11d1b1e8db57f8e8a0cfbc943-150+43045df5cff2204bce4a44e3827f9b88b519d5ac-r7 - 0.9.5.9+gitr1616+f6ff7cc6a2246746aa6ae89fbf999e3898f033fd-180+cc019f16d57daa9cf1ca24e6c7a5e197cbaf7612-r7 fsousaged - 0.0.0.0+gitr385+e70733ce85d7bb636b15d0cee1e63621480739c8-r6.0 - 0.0.0.0+gitr394+4893e3cfa02722b0a082c1c9d03bba7e30193fea-r6.0 fsousaged - 0.0.0.0+gitr379+41f9525fd24145e5ed946d2b9293a036a09c22b8-r6.0 - 0.0.0.0+gitr394+4893e3cfa02722b0a082c1c9d03bba7e30193fea-r6.0 libfsoframework0 - 0.1.0.0+gitr385+e70733ce85d7bb636b15d0cee1e63621480739c8-r6.2 - 0.1.0.0+gitr394+4893e3cfa02722b0a082c1c9d03bba7e30193fea-r6.2 libfsoframework0 - 0.1.0.0+gitr379+41f9525fd24145e5ed946d2b9293a036a09c22b8-r6.2 - 0.1.0.0+gitr394+4893e3cfa02722b0a082c1c9d03bba7e30193fea-r6.2 Although, I already have higher versions installed for each of those packages. opkg info would also show that these (upgradable) packages are de-installed while the newer one is installed. opkg upgrade would just say that the pakcage is already installed for each of the package. I don't know if that can be reason...but that sure looked scrupulous to me --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again :(
Was I not supposed to upgrade? Was there a red flag that I missed? And anyways, do I need to wait for some upgrade or this can be fixed rather easily (I would hate to reflash) I have already tried opkg install -force-reinstall fso-abyss libfsotransport0 fsousaged libgee0 with no avail... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again :(
Same problem here, can you please post your frameworkd.conf for quick and dirty fix? For me frameworkd.conf at http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob_plain;f=conf/example/frameworkd.conf;hb=077a4875a28cd96a0b764126d2052692edf0e66b worked. The only additions to it after this are addition of some backends: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=history;f=conf/example/frameworkd.conf;h=efd0bbeff1ca9a8347d6f36f32da6399b57e180e;hb=HEAD. I think dos1 can fix it pretty easilycan someone on irc just ping him with the issue (in case he misses he this mail) --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again :(
Fix is building at the moment, according to mickeyl opkg upgrade should fix that in few minutes :) Thats great. btw, while we are on frameworkd.conf; can the upgrade process be setup such that the old settings are retained(I don't know how!) ? I often forget to switch to SQLite-Messages(can it be made default?) and wonder why sent messages are not showing up. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable 20090808] what the... opkg not found?
r...@om-gta02 / $ opkg upgrade -sh: opkg: not found help! Most probably, you did an upgrade when opkg (a soft link) got missed in the build. Try opkg-cl. It would get fixed as soon as you are done with the upgrade ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable 20090808] what the... opkg not found?
yikes... ok opkg-cl works and a soft link from that to opkg works. is that what you mean by fix? it was just a build system bugthe soft link would come up automatically with the upgrade. Basically just use opkg-cl once and forget that it even exists. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again :(
Fix is building at the moment, according to mickeyl opkg upgrade should fix that in few minutes :) For me the latest frameworkd.conf from http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr-themes.git;a=history;f=frameworkd/frameworkd-config-shr/om-gta02/frameworkd.conf;h=bbbea90b94e55ff590955a9101a3ef050b74c4a1;hb=de367ad3948f22450d4e0715957d7825f5527e23 still DOESN'T work. is opkg --force-reinstall needed for some other package as well? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again :(
http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr-themes.git;a=history;f=frameworkd/frameworkd-config-shr/om-gta02/frameworkd.conf;h=bbbea90b94e55ff590955a9101a3ef050b74c4a1;hb=de367ad3948f22450d4e0715957d7825f5527e23 still DOESN'T work. ok it works nowguess i was 1 hour too early when I checked :) --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Do you pplan it on any particular date? IMHO it is worth to put it into CU, but need date details also. We haven't yet decided on the dates. In fact we were trying to figure out if we can do #1024 and bass fix as well alongwith buzz fix. I have been neck-deep in work this week and i think same would be true for the next week. After that I plan to settle for the plan (schematics, drawing, components, etc) for #1024 and bass fix (unless someone else does it earlier). Then we would call for the FR from outside Delhi (I know only 2 up till now...chetan and alok...both, i guess, in bangalore) and then get them for fix. I thought sending the FRs is a far bigger problem than actually getting it down to the shop and get it fixed. Of course, this counts in for CU only when things solidify a bit more @Rakshat: how many FRs do we have in India? do you expect anyone else who _might_ not be following the list? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
* sms/missed calls notifications use opimd I was just looking into http://code.google.com/p/shr-launcher/source/browse/trunk/src/dbsqlite.c and saw that you are directly using opim.db. Shouldn't you be uisng opimd api for that. Moreover, if you need some more functionaliy, even then it should go into opim as againts you going directly and reading the db --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
Well, here's the latest release. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3480288/launcher_0.30_arm.ipk launcher_0.30_arm.ipk I get: # launcher SQL error: no such table: contacts Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Segmentation fault # I created contacts tables by seeing its schema in the code, yet the code segfaulted! --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
Did anyone get their location data? (Should come under the date and above
where the LOADING.. message appears).
I can see the location data. Although there is one issue (not with the
location data)...when Ready! is shown the category bar shifts down
just so much to hide the category labels
(http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/08081d27d9ae2103b65673acfbc018e6.png)
Any feedback about the phonelog, reminders etc?
phonelog seems fine...haven't got any reminder yet :). Of course
phonelog is not picking up contacts from opimd (but you are saying
that you would soon be using opimd so thats a non-issue :)
BTW, I was wondering if, we can have a dedicated cell in category bar
for phone functionality. And selecting it would show something like
litephone (may be litephone itself?). That ways you wont need to
duplicate the efforts...of course someone would need to get the UI in
sync...
Well, thats one issue. Could you copy all the icons from
/usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps to /usr/share/pixmaps ?
I wonder what the best way to solve this is - other than checking both
directories.
I was wondering if there are existing libraries which parse .desktop
files and give back a standard structure (say {iconPath, label,
executable}, etc). I guess illume (desktop) would alredy be using
something of that kind (if it exists)
--Vikas
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Re: Launcher 0.30 release
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Vikas Saurabhvikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone get their location data? (Should come under the date and above where the LOADING.. message appears). I can see the location data. Although there is one issue (not with the location data)...when Ready! is shown the category bar shifts down just so much to hide the category labels (http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/08081d27d9ae2103b65673acfbc018e6.png) I had launched launcher from a ssh shell...launching it from illume seems to be working fine. And yes, on the second launch location data is nowhere to be found --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On a related note, the fix for #1024 and the bass boost as well as the shorting of the erroneous capacitor[1] (if present) would be a welcome addition to the Buzz fix. It seems a reasonable amount of effort to send the phone and it would make sense to do as much as possible on this one trip. Could someone with hardware skills explain the various fixes to the guy who is doing the fixes ? I am no hardware guy, in fact I haven't even opened up my phone beyond the battery case yet...not that I see some risk...just that I don't see any reason to do that. Anyways, for bass fix there is a wiki page (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix) which suggests more that one way of fixing the issue with pros and cons For bug#1024, the only nice link I got was http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html I think the descriptions are pretty well written but then thats my perspective who hasn't ever used a solder iron. Anyone with more experience please jump in. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi All, We are planning a buzz fix for FRs in India. As Rakshat has already pointed out, the guy who would do the buzz fix is placed at Delhi. IDA systems would be bearing the cost of buzz fix while we need to take care of sending in the devices and take it back. People in Delhi itself can of course bump in personally. I already know of Vibhav and Gora who are in Delhi and would be interested. Please use this thread to show your preference and if you be shipping or coming in personally. We are still to figure out a date for this. The buzz fix would be done at: Baig Electronics K-33 Batla House, near Mosque Khalilullah Jamia Nagar okhla 011-26984151 9810134572 (although I couldn't figure out the exact address but Mosque Khalilullah is at http://wikimapia.org/587273/Masjid-Khalilullah...so reaching there shouldn't be very hard :) quote from Rakshat's first mail IDA Systems (with support from Openmoko) will cover the actual costs of the buzz fix procedure and the components. Shipping costs (to and back from) Delhi, where the contracter who will undertake the Buzz Fix is based, will have to be borne by the customer (We will work with you to get good and easy shipping options and also give a free extra Battery as a return gift with each Freerunner sent for the Buzz Fix to cover costs) /quote I am unsure how would that work out but I guess Rakshat can jump in here. While I don't know about postage options, I think the package can still be sent to one of us (users) and we would take all the FRs to the guy at the same time. I think we can update http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty as soon as this takes a little more shape --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
I would like to get my FR buzz fixed too. I was kind of hoping we could get the #1024 (modem deep sleep) and the bass workaround for the earphones done at the same time. Particularly #1024 since it really seems to seriously improve battery life. Both require adding additional capacitors in parallel and aren't too tough. I was also thinking on the same lines. I guess we can take the schematics/print etc and get it done. At least I would be fine to bear the extra cost (if any) myself @rakshat: what do you think about this? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
litephone message with illume keyboard
I found a pretty weird behavior on litephone message while typing with illume keyboard. While using dictionary some letters get typed at wrong places: e.g. if you type 'did' it comes up as 'ddi' Is it just me? Is it known? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Impressions and Problems
I'm thinking that a good way to compare phone numbers (for example the sender of a message and a phone book entry) is to check whether one number is a suffix of the other number. Are there any (non-obscure) cases where this would give false positives? /etc/frameworkd-phonegui.conf has some configuration for exactly similar purpose. I think thats how the opimd-utils get it info correctly. Should opimd have a function to map these is what dos1 would decide :) --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?
well, i am still convinced, fso should do something about that instead of relying on some 3d party app. I think this is really getting OT...but still I want to put my head. I think what you mean here that fsoraw should be a part of FSO in the same sense as mdbus is. Both are just reference/handy/easy-to-use/make-life-easy apps which are using the services provided by the framework (like resource management, etc) I think its a debate is about what all should be included in linux distribution (~FSO) which has apps (~mdbus, fsoraw) and kernel (~framework) --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher problem.
But I don't understand how I would do... You can download the source for launcher and compile the code at your end and update http://code.google.com/p/shr-launcher/source/browse/trunk/src/dbsqlite.c#tatic int file_select(const struct dirent *entry) to select only files with *.desktop extension. Who can help me? Anyone who has commit access to the source code --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
Do what I did - re-install on the second partition and copy /home/root over to it... I did exactly that and had a working version by flashing the image from Aug8. But then I wanted my old apps as well so I went ahead with opkg update (instinctively) followed by opkg upgrade. That ruined it :( yet again. BTW, libfsoframework and ousaged are not git367 one $ opkg list_installed | grep -e libfsoframework0 -e fsousaged fsousaged - 0.0.0.0+gitr367+3c3e1b862cdde806cef8f502dfe79f1d48f1c5d7-r5.0 - libfsoframework0 - 0.1.0.0+gitr367+3c3e1b862cdde806cef8f502dfe79f1d48f1c5d7-r5.1 - In fact IIRC, I didn't these two installing during upgrade anyways (I can't be sure though). Was this expected...Am I not supposed to upgrade even on the latest image??? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?
next, where does one get fsoraw from (the ticket links to the sources, but i never actually saw a binary, let alone a package somewhere)? Its available in SHR-U repo...And since the bitbake is already there in the svn[1], I think the distributions should go ahead and include it...iirc, FSO is no longer in distribution business --Vikas 1 - http://noko.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/noko/trunk/fsoraw/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screen in FR goes black and white after resume from suspend
The screen in my FR goes B/W with weird lines after it resumes from suspend.Got to know it is WSOD bug (or sometimes resumes in grey scale mode) .Well temporarily I can change the FR not to suspend but I have to do so after every reboot.Any solutions? Hi Ranjan, What you mention here doesn't seem like the WSOD bug (may be I am wrong there...as I have never faced WSOD)...I think you are refering to this-http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3031505 As you might see from the mail that its a kernel specific issue and every distribution uses different kernels (by defualt). Which is why it is necessary to know which distribution are you using. On this mailing list we have a convention to prepend the subject link with [distribution] so that: * Uninterested audience don't jump it * You provide a vital piece of information automatically Of course there can be issues which are not distribution specific...but I think even then its safe to put your distribution in the subject line. I had been facing this problem when I was on SHR-Testing long time back. Haven't seen this since I switched to SHR-Unstable (which, btw, isn't as unstable as its name suggests :). I think even Debian would be on newer kernel. I have no idea about OM2009 --Vikas PS: Of course most of my mail is irrelevant if you are actually facing the WSOD...yet knowing the distribution is useful ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [fso] scripts on suspend/resume
is there any infrastructure to run scripts upon suspend resp resume? the only way so far seems to be using apmd -- but that adds considerable delay to resume ... I don't remember exactly where, but there are folders dedicated to contain scripts to execute while suspend/resume (just like init.d). Check out the files contained in omnewrorate packate (it installs some files there) --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is your GPS working today?
Is your GPS working now? No And if not, when it worked last time? I think the last I had it working was 2 weeks back when I was on testing. I haven't *used* my GPS since thenbut I am sure I have waited for some time to get a fix and got bored and didn't continue omgps is not seeing many satellites...keeps flipping between 0/0 and 0/1 while tangoGPS does see satellites but doesn't get a fix. TangoGPS does synchronize the time though (just in case its relevant) Also if not - after trying to use it, check if you have rxerr messages in dmesg, and report it here. Yes, I do have rxerr port=1 ch=0x00, rxs=0x000.000c lines on dmesg I am on SHR-U these days with no upgrades post vala upgrade --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ANN: freesmartphone.org MS 5.5
Can I assume that the other interfaces docs are up-to-date? As I see on mdbus org.freesmartphone.SIM.PDP-ActivateContext doesn't return anything...similary DeactivateContext doesn't take context id as input...But http://docs.freesmartphone.org/org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.html seems to differ Can the docs be generated using Instrospection? I think that way docs would be very close to implementation and the pain of keeping them updated also goes away? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: touchpad on OM
Oh, I forgot. To bring up the touchpad, slide your finger up from the bottom left corner. Sliding from bottom right corner brings up the keyboard. To hide the touchpad, slide down on the buttons. The app really works nicely but if the app is running one cannot slide the bottom bar of launcher[1]. I can understand that you would need to capture input from a certain section...but the whole of bottom bar goes for a toss while literki is running. Can this be fixed...as I would like to use both literki and launcher...yeah i am a little greedy :) --Vikas 1 - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Launcher ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
I am totally awed with this mini-comp with not-so-good-yet-workable GSM capabilities. But the best hack/trick I could try on my FR was when I was totally out of any comp anywhere (linux/win) although there was WiFi available and I wanted to flash SHR-U on the device. Well it was so simple...I just browsed to shr-u images link and downloaded the tar.gz. Created a new partition on my SD card. Untarred the image on that parition. Put noboot-GTA02 in the original partition. Reboot and voila I was working on SHR-U. It was an amazing feeling: * Flash your phone with a new OS * No USB cable * No trick to start flashing * Using one distro to install another woah!..show me any phone that can do that...in fact i don't even know of any mainstream linux distributions for desktop which would support that :) --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] making bricks...
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: hello list. im in dire need of assistance. ive just re-flashed my phone to shr-unstable 20090624 all went well until i tried to do an ssh. turns out my usb0 is not showing up in anyway. Try eth0. Recent kernels(I guess freerunner's driver) have started registering the device properly and hence it shows up as a network interface --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] Forcing fast charge mode
Check out http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#GTA02_Kernel_sysfs_highlights_for_kernel_2.6.28. specifically: charger_type = /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/chg_curlim #limit that freerunner would accept capacity = /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity voltage = /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now status = /sys/class/power_supply/battery/status image_dir = /usr/share/battery/ usb_limit = /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/usb_curlim #current that is actually coming I have attached a modified battery.py for the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode#The_battery_package. I don't know how to make the package so I guess someone might help here :). BTW, I don't know python...I have updated it by copying the code...so it would be great if someone reviews it before packaging. Moreover, once the information is confirmed we can update http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode with exact paths as well --Vikas http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode#Beni.27s_fast_charge_gta02.sh it says that The /sys paths need to be updated for recent distributions what does that mean? If simply editing the shell script will get it working again I will be happy to do it if I knew what that means. battery.py Description: Binary data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] Forcing fast charge mode
With the current setup I get this error from the script: File not found: /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode! my guess would be this may be where it should be pointed to the voltage_now file because everything else I was able to match up, but again I'm not quite sure about this. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#.2Fsys.2Fdevices.2Fplatform.2Fs3c2440-i2c.2Fi2c-adapter.2Fi2c-0.2F0-0073.2Fchgmode says that chgmode used to tell if the phone is charging or not. I think status also tells you exactly the same thing. You can cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/status to verify that. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-testing] Forcing fast charge mode
I have recently flashed shr-testing and was wondering if the fast charge information available here [ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode] is still usable? Or is there some FSO API that I have missed? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Indian FR Owners
For the other cities, please mail me or update wiki so that we get the Indian Chapter of FR owners up and running. Just for reference, I guess Vibhav meant this link: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups#Asia. You can find me at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups:_Delhi and of course I am in for the meettho currently my FR is dead as I am too busy to keep it up :( --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is startup log?
I don't know exactly where the startup logs are...dmesg and logread are helpful at times. But, what you observed happened to me once with Om2008.8 when I changed my feed to testing and upgraded. It gave lots of warning about gtk+ trying to overwrite files installed using gtk-fastscaling+ and after everything it stuck to where you are. Takeaway: don't mix feeds (unless of course you exactly know which packages you should blah blah...for users like me, don't mix the feeds work beautifully) On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I'm using SHR. I've installed some applications, did opkg upgrade and now illume doesn't start. It loads illume (I can see very nice progress bar), but then it return to console which says something like: om-gta02 login: 31 om-gta02 tty1ered by Angstrom om-gta02 tty1 SPANK SPANK!*** Anyways, where can I get startup log files to investigate the origin of the problem? Thanks. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Survey about the Touchscreen
I think we need to decide upon this without the bias of UIone might get excited with iPhone's UI. What we would have to remember: * capacitive screen would always require a touch of finger (hence all the UI elements need to take enough space on screen) so the whole fun of high reso is gone * otoh, pressure based screen need a little more pressure to react but is often manageable with fingers as well --Vikas On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Anton Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, it would be interesting to know which type of touch-screen that people would prefer to use on their future OpenMoko device. A not so scientific survey can be found at: http://www.733kru.org/~pltxtra/OpenMoko/survey.html Best regards Anton Persson ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Partitionning separate /home/ floder to SD
Flash has limited writes in its lifetime. That is why we have special filesystems for flash [1],[2] (e.g. jffs2). ext3 (due to its journalling) might not be good idea for Sd-card. I think ext2 would fare fine except that it might be left with corrupted FS in case improper shutdown but at least it would not impact the life of the card. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Iain B. Findleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I did appear to observe that using ext3 on the uSD partitions appears to be faster than using FAT file systems, however. --VIkas [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flash_file_systems#Flash_memory_.2F_solid_state_media_file_systems [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAND_flash#Flash_file_systems ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate version
I am using 2008.8 with regular updates, so I should be pretty updated :) hmmnot sure, but it might be some 10 hours. No other apps were using accels. What is meant by instability? I was seeing continuous output from 'test' program (although with similar values). Is that the instability? --Vikas On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What release do you use? How long since your last reboot? Have you been using other applications that use accelerometers? I'm using Om2008.9 and I'm noticing instability in the accelerometers, so maybe some of your problems are derived from it. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate version
This seems pretty stable than the previous one. The brightness effect is nice, but the event, apparently, is hitting even if the phone is moved a little (i was trying to type a message). The brightness thing started to feel too much pain, so I killed the rotate instance (from a separated ssh session). Unfortunately, the program had thought that I am rotating and hence had brightness set to 0 when I killed it. So, I was left with a switched off screen :). So, 2 cents from my side (1) The brightness effect (and rotation) should be applied only we are switching orientation (I am not too sure if accels would give that data directlybut keeping a state can be a workaround...it would give some false positives and negative, but would have a better output) (2) We might like to put a close program handler which would try to reset the brightness to the last read brightness value (if the rotation was in progress while the program was closed) --Vikas On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:15:58PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:26:48PM +0200, Oscar Casamitjana wrote: screenfp = fopen (/sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness,w); Excellent idea, I'll implement it in my newRotate and make a new release. BTW, I still can't commit... https://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1563 OK, new newrotate version, taking usage of brightness to use less energy and a nicer rotation. http://blog.1407.org/2008/10/14/openmoko-newrotate-checks-brightness/ Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate version
The test application is blurting out lots of output, following is a snippet(from the middle of the output) which sort of showed some difference when I tapped the screen. Types: a(2), b(2), c(2) Codes: a(0), b(1), c(2) Value: a(-18), b(-1152), c(-54) vertical straight Types: a(2), b(2), c(0) Codes: a(1), b(2), c(0) Value: a(-1062), b(-72), c(0) left Types: a(2), b(2), c(2) Codes: a(0), b(1), c(2) Value: a(72), b(-990), c(-216) vertical straight Types: a(2), b(2), c(2) Codes: a(0), b(1), c(2) Value: a(108), b(-990), c(-234) vertical straight Do, tell me if I need to get something specific from the output. BTW, for restoration to sane state, I think we would like to maintain the brightness value when we switched it off and then restore to this value if the program was ended (normal exit, I understand kernel can force kill without giving the process any chance to anything). --Vikas On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, Thank you very much for your input. Can you try to run a bit of the 'test' I include? I'm starting to suspect different accelerometers might give different outputs and so the heuristics might not make sense anymore, I hope that's not the case. You can return the brightenss with echo 63 /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness ... in the meanwhile. As for terminating... only a few signals can be caught, I will try to set them up in order to stop in a sane state (xrandr -o 0, full brightness if it's currently 0, and so on). Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ASU, 2008.8/.9] remove bottom section
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I have removed the assassin installer so it doesn't show up any more (I do everything command line while ssh'd in) and I want to get rid of the bottom thing with the little pluses. Is this a possibility? I know that it's used in some weird and inconsistent ways, so this may cause problems, but I'd rather have the realestate... I would think the back button at the bottom of the app would be better than always wasting that realestate for a bar that _may_ have the back arrow... Anyone know how to do this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I am not exactly sure how to do that. But the tango theme doesn't have it, so it should surely be possible to have some modification in .edj file for illume. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: import/export sms from qtopia
Ahhbut that seems to be too late for me. I already have information on my current image. I was wondering if I could somehow extract the info from the backup and put it into the current one. I just did this on my install, and it was as simple as copying my backup back to the phone. BTW, I think all the messages (including sent and received) are stored under qtmail folder (within the home directory) as different text files. But just copying those didn't help. I guess qtopia makes some entry in its database. I think qtopia's db is just a sqlite file. Does anyone know the schema of their database? It might be helpful. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
import/export sms from qtopia
Hi, I had to reflash my 2008.8 installation. I wanted to keep the data so I backed the home directory. Now, I have an up and satisfactorily working image. I want to import the data (specifically sent and received sms'es) in the old image. I tried to search wiki for qtmail, sms, etc but didn't find anything useful. Can it be done? --Vikas PS: On a similar note, I was planning to switch to FSO, but again I want to keep the sms'es, would that be possible? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2008.8, GPRS using multiplexing and GUI for Vodafone Live! in Mumbai
Can you update the settings on the wikihttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS ? On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=795754i=0 wrote: The settings above are valid for Vodafone Live! GPRS Mumbai India. Just for the record. ___ Openmoko community mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=795754i=1 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Subscribed to Nabble @ http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko-Community-f1954.html To start a new topic under Openmoko Community, email [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, click here (link removed) =. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/OM2008.8%2C-GPRS-using-multiplexing-and-GUI-for-Vodafone-Live%21-in-Mumbai-tp794054p795983.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Windows CE on freerunner
Hi All, I really don't want to use windows on my moko. Its rather to prove a point to a friend of mine. So, can we install windows (if we somehow get the flash image of the OS)? Or more simply asked can I configure uBoot to launch a Hello World program that I compile completely statically? --Vikas PS: I guess there would be problems with the driver etc. But I that should be OKas long as I can have the booting up part.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging
AhhhI feel so stupid...you must have meant 900MHz triband in terms of network [:sheepish:] On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Vikas Saurabh [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: WHAT OM is shipping 900MHz version...at the same costmy v5 is still working and I clearly remember it was 400MHz. Would 900MHz be at the same cost? I'm hoping that OM will send me a replacement 900MHz version sometime ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Windows CE on freerunner
Totally agreed but it would still be fun have my own hello world program running. Can I have a HelloWorld named as uImage.bin and which can be loaded by uboot. Wait I would try that out myselfshould be interesting :) --Vikas PS: On a lighter note, I cant run away from that friend, he sits right beside my cube in my office :) On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:02 AM, David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your friend is the evil temptating you doing nasty things, don't listen him , run away as far as you can, El vie, 22-08-2008 a las 05:51 +0530, Vikas Saurabh escribió: Hi All, I really don't want to use windows on my moko. Its rather to prove a point to a friend of mine. So, can we install windows (if we somehow get the flash image of the OS)? Or more simply asked can I configure uBoot to launch a Hello World program that I compile completely statically? --Vikas PS: I guess there would be problems with the driver etc. But I that should be OKas long as I can have the booting up part.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Windows CE on freerunner
Why can't I fool the bootloader to think that I am a kernel. I always thought boot loaders just load the kernel image, pass it some parameters and start executing them. I had done this helloworld kind of thing with grub during college...but then maybe grub is advanced. What puzzles me is how exactly? On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Jeff Sadowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: you would need to replace uboot its ugly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Windows CE on freerunner
Ohh...I guess you mean that it would not be possible to load windows kernel and tell it about the partition info etc so that it can continue booting. I think that is fine. I would be more than happy to have my program start up by uboot. Windows was just an example that my friend had set up. Thanks a lot. --Vikas On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Jeff Sadowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: you can with a normal OS windows has its own bootloader ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Windows CE on freerunner
Awesome details. I would definitely give it a try. Not intereseted in font blitting, so would stick to the morse code idea :). Would send out the details (and wiki them). --Vikas On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Alex Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/08/2008, at 11:41 AM, Vikas Saurabh wrote: Why can't I fool the bootloader to think that I am a kernel. I always thought boot loaders just load the kernel image, pass it some parameters and start executing them. Indeed, that's exactly what it does. It loads the kernel image into RAM, puts some parameters and a pointer to the ATAGS (which include stuff the kernel command-line) into registers and jumps to the start of the image. See here for details: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/booting.php I had done this helloworld kind of thing with grub during college...but then maybe grub is advanced. What puzzles me is how exactly? Note that the Freerunner doesn't have a BIOS. When you did it on x86 you probably used the BIOS' printing routines. If you want to do it on the FR you'll have to do your own font blitting etc. If you have a debug board you could print it to a serial port. You can then also use JTAG to debug your code and figure out what is going on. If you don't have the debug board, I guess you could easily enough blink out hello world in morse code through an LED or by turning on and off the backlight or something. It might also be useful to play with it in qemu, just pass in your binary with the -kernel option, you can connect gdb to it and step through line by line (see the qemu documentation for how to do this). As to how to actually do it, it's a bit of a pain. You'll probably need to write a little ARM assembler stub entry point to setup a stack and call your C code. Although you might be able to just reuse u-boots stack, I guess. Then you'll need to compile your code with - nostdlib and link it in a way that ensures your assembler code is at the start of the image, you might need to investigate custom linker scripts for this, I can't remember. You can then use something like objcopy -O binary mycode.elf mycode.bin to pull the raw code out of the elf file the linker generated, so that you can give it to u-boot. Remember also that you won't have any standard library, so you'll have to write every function you want to use yourself (or use something like the OSKit C library) and if you code has a bug it's just going to hang or reset the CPU, unless you define your own error handling code. So yes, certainly doable and a good learning experience but it's not exactly straightforward. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Attached is another version of cofigure-uboot.sh. This version can 'only' be run from inside booted freerunner (requires fso-utils which debian already has). Maybe, the choice of external execution or execution from inside debian be a parameter to the scriptbut I am just too lazy :) --Vikas On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, Am Freitag, den 15.08.2008, 22:31 +0200 schrieb arne anka: The feeds are for the debian system if I understand you right. But how do I install these packages without beeing able to boot debian from the sd card ? Should I install that in the openmoko flash image (currently 2008.08)? the tools are to be used on your host computer, i think. Correct. The pkg-fso feed works both on i386 and armel, and the fso-utils package makes also sense on i386, for the remote flashing. It maybe also works from the phone itself (see the unused uboot stage of install.sh), but I had weird problems. Bold people with a craze for debugging are welcome to make that work. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeatahttp://people.debian.org/%7Enomeata ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community configure-uboot.sh Description: Bourne shell script ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
I could recover the data by creating the same paritioning and then re-downloading the kernel in the first partition (one of teh post suggested that the bug actually eats up a sector from the first partition as wellI didn't check and downloading the kernel was pretty easy). --Vikas On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks ! Anyway my partition table is now crashed thanks to suspend/resume issue. I go digging in mailing list, I think I saw ways to recover... else I'll have to start from 0... On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 16:05, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * can I change this table order without losing partition data ? nope. * can I have Extended partition number (mmcblk0p3 now) to be after the logical ones (so that mmcnlk0p2 and mmcblk0p3 refer to the 2 first logical ones, -just the same as in my 512MB card-) ? nope. the logicla partitions are inside the extended partition -- numbers have to be bigger than the number of the extended partition. if you like partition number independent identifiers use labels -- either when creating the xt2 fs or afterwards with tune2fs, argument -L. What is funny on my ubuntu laptop is that mount points are not always in the same order. I have to be carefull ! (of course I can fix mount points once for all on my pc -and also access rights for ext3-, but when I plug the card in another PC, I have the problem back...) you probably need to fix the udev script that creates the mount points. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dfu_upload error -84 when trying to backup images
I dont think this is related to the architecture. I had faced similar issue on core duo (i had put a comment on the wiki for the same). Btw, i didnt have to flash the back up image so i dont know if it actually worked out correctly. On 8/16/08, xiangfu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 some message no WIKI: WARNING: Dfu-util is currently broken on big-endian architectures WARNING: Do not flash U-Boot unless you are sure you need to NOTE: Upload support is currently broken - #676 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting the following error when trying to backup rootfs: dfu_upload error -84 I've been able to back up the other partitions, but the rootfs fails every time at 258076672 Bytes. I think this is the size of the rootfs, but how can I be sure? I don't want to flash it with this image if there is missing data. I also don't want to try to flash it with 2008.8 if I'm not sure that it will complete. If it doesn't complete, will I be left with a brick until I can get it to complete successfully, or does it not write until the whole image is transferred? The host is a Macbook Pro CoreDuo (not C2D) running Gentoo. Has anybody had a similar experience? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBSKb2zhFuNemPXNFjAQKUnQf+P0iXWU5U/O9X9ZblCkcnhZgAgsxwalYZ vRAgKs1Bt9H2uDUdz/WZvpEnmgu/+AtsVxQZe2qKGsrLX19eC10GGWMcxmpOoSwx wl8mpto2f4n2DSGkS0ptkXGuqYDqla3CY5YbdwPxJLBDHvgRCmf7jYzchdK/IHVL JdABDwwBkJsQjQLZQCfTRrY7EdEzuu+AB97RCShwaKB/YCL5EmVuvaOBwTJj84Qw S9P7nkHDuqfNvbqhGLeblM0fQxoylgj2P6KM9OhOINPWiVs6a5FgT8o6pXCF7vOb 6SBsVmhuvRFaUxRVSI68afDktRb9oQ1dtepy0u9fU38kIA+Aah1Ptg== =rKIC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dfu_upload error -84 when trying to backup images
Try mounting the jffs2 file as mentioned in the wiki. Check the mounted file-system. -Vikas On 8/17/08, Russell Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried this once and got the same error. Then I ran grep on the image file it produced with words that I knew were present in the filesystem like headphone mono and state. I couldn't find any words in the image, so I don't think the files it produces contain real data. It could be that it's doing something very strange, like flipping bits or re-encoding blocks in the dump file. Since upload is known to be broken, I didn't look into it any further: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util#--upload -Rusty Christian Weßel wrote: I just have the same problem. But I wasn't in time to report it to an existing ticket about dfu_util problems. I guess there are same problems with dfu. christian Am Samstag, den 16.08.2008, 21:36 +0530 schrieb Vikas Saurabh: I dont think this is related to the architecture. I had faced similar issue on core duo (i had put a comment on the wiki for the same). Btw, i didnt have to flash the back up image so i dont know if it actually worked out correctly. On 8/16/08, xiangfu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 some message no WIKI: WARNING: Dfu-util is currently broken on big-endian architectures WARNING: Do not flash U-Boot unless you are sure you need to NOTE: Upload support is currently broken - #676 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting the following error when trying to backup rootfs: dfu_upload error -84 I've been able to back up the other partitions, but the rootfs fails every time at 258076672 Bytes. I think this is the size of the rootfs, but how can I be sure? I don't want to flash it with this image if there is missing data. I also don't want to try to flash it with 2008.8 if I'm not sure that it will complete. If it doesn't complete, will I be left with a brick until I can get it to complete successfully, or does it not write until the whole image is transferred? The host is a Macbook Pro CoreDuo (not C2D) running Gentoo. Has anybody had a similar experience? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBSKb2zhFuNemPXNFjAQKUnQf+P0iXWU5U/O9X9ZblCkcnhZgAgsxwalYZ vRAgKs1Bt9H2uDUdz/WZvpEnmgu/+AtsVxQZe2qKGsrLX19eC10GGWMcxmpOoSwx wl8mpto2f4n2DSGkS0ptkXGuqYDqla3CY5YbdwPxJLBDHvgRCmf7jYzchdK/IHVL JdABDwwBkJsQjQLZQCfTRrY7EdEzuu+AB97RCShwaKB/YCL5EmVuvaOBwTJj84Qw S9P7nkHDuqfNvbqhGLeblM0fQxoylgj2P6KM9OhOINPWiVs6a5FgT8o6pXCF7vOb 6SBsVmhuvRFaUxRVSI68afDktRb9oQ1dtepy0u9fU38kIA+Aah1Ptg== =rKIC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
I had similar problems with my accels from these imagesperhaps one needs some kernel module installed as well. Nonetheless, I tried 2008.8 (check out wiki to see where to get the rootfs and kernel) and accels worked out of the box. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 11 August 2008 12:44:10 Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Your probably using an older version, since what you just saw in the video is not released yet :) I will release a package this week. try hexdump /dev/input/event2 and hexdump /dev/input/event3 and restart your Neo :) Yes I am. hexdump /dev/input/event2 and hexdump /dev/input/event3 output nothing. Even if I pick up my neo and wiggle it (Not sure if that's necessary.. but I thought I'd try it.. :/ Since it's just giving me nothing) No debug output in dmesg (When I try reading, or that I can find in the bootup output) I just tried upgrading my kernel ( http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080810/uImage-2.6.24+git32+2438a8c74c495c95f5b78301a44ed8e8d0b267d5-r2-om-gta02.bin), rebooting, etc. Same problem. Perhaps my accelerometers are broken? I imagine it's either that or the kernel. I opened a ticket on bugzilla. Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm. Didn't work when I tried your gesd-neo.sh script. No output. So, I tried the accelerometer test script here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval Still no output. Is there something I have to do to turn the accelerometers on? On Monday 11 August 2008 03:35:39 Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Hi, As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project: http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything you've just seen in the YouTube video. Again, big thanks to Daniel for helping me out with the problems I have encountered on the way. Thanks Daniel! This doesn't mean that I'll stop working on the project; on the contrary, I will continue to improve it, and I'll use the Neo for my primary development target. More on http://gestures.borza.ro Thanks, Paul -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
ok, I tried install the link http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk, but it doesn't work out with the default repositories that are installed by default. I just added src/gz daily-armv4t-P http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/ in armv4.conf (...I guess raster hinted that this is not 'supported' repo) next opkg update and opkg install illume do the trick. Restart x-server and I have a configuration in illume-config to choose keyboards between none and default. None gives the default hh-feeling-sms-only keyboard. Default gives a full qwerty board (the one which appeared in last few builds of ASU). (It seems that I need to restart xserver for the changes to take effect). My next problem is how to add the number and default keyboard profiles to the keyboard provided by illume. I tried to find illume-keyboards-default, etc but don't which repo to find them in. I also tried to copy the .kbd(s) [from svn] into /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards but that crashed enlightenment. Any help --Vikas PS: I would love to be able to switch between the illume-keybd and hhh-keybd without restart X. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:15 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0200 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . . Would you care to elaborate on let me use whatever keyboard i like ? Maybe you may add a howto into http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle ? Many thanks in advance. illume's code can use it's internal keyboard, do nothing at all (and just wait until some external keyboard is run - like qpe does) or run a keyboard process for you. it even will queue multiple keyboards if more than 1 was launched - but it works with a first-come-first-served policy there. the gui config is simple (chose none, internal default or some of N others). the gui will list any .desktop files it found that have Keyboard in the categories list for the .desktop. but of course this config dialog isn't really meant to be supported. not in ASU/2008.8 so it's more of a if you somehow find it and get it up - use at your own risk. :) -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
