Re: [Om2008.12] Remove Install Bar (raster?)

2009-01-17 Thread Yorick Moko
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:52 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
 On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:22:35 +0100 boilers...@gmail.com
 boilers...@gmail.com babbled:

  I did this previously by going through all the resources, one by one,
  disabling them and then recompiling the theme. It took a couple of hours 
  but
  it worked. Whichever file you use to tell the theme to set a background
  image, it's in there somewhere.
 
  Of course, since then I've reflashed the phone several times and never did
  note down what I'd done. D'oh.

 I can't seem to find it.
 Maybe this ticket is the beginning of the INSTALLER button story ?
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1582

 If yes, Raster: how do I remove the bottom Install Bar ?

 you can at best just modify the theme to have blank invisible stuff for
 flaunch. you can't get rid of it. by the time i implemented this specifically
 for the om ui design, there as no point making it optional because 1. there 
 was
 unhappiness me spending any time on anything out of spec (so making it
 optional is out of spec). and even if i did make it an option - om had no
 desire to use the config ui illume/e already had and wanted their own python
 exposure thing - which wasn't going to get an option for this - as the ui for
 that was specified explicitly.

 so basically its there. like it or not. at best you can fiddle the theme to
 make it invisible. :)

 i normally have a policy of making as much configurable or modular as possible
 (or that is sane/i have the time to do). it's a real pain as anything always
 takes longer to do at the start as you have to sit and think of a whole bunch
 of possible configuration cases and how that interacts with everything else
 etc. so i understand why om doesnt want config - but you pay the price for it
 later when users dont like what they have and are stuck. :(

 i haven't really fiddled with illume much of late (working on e core and
 elementary), but when i roll back around to it i'm going to really gut illume
 into multiple modules, and do the ui so it's much better and closer to what 
 i'd
 have wanted :) but it will just take time.

 --
 - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am --
 The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com


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grrr
i'm not using 2008.x anymore
but I HATED that bar

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Re: [Om2008.12] Remove Install Bar

2009-01-16 Thread boilers...@gmail.com
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:02:28 +1300
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 personally, i think the asu theme (the stock one installed on the
 freerunner) blows, and you'd be best off switching it for something
 ore useful - there are plenty around on the web. the illume one,
 included on the phone, doesn't have that bar in, and does include the
 decent keyboard, and the wrench for further config of illume


Hi Robin,

I like the asu theme and I'm comfortable with decompiling and recreating the 
edc / edj files.

I already knew all the web references you gave me
but I'm still unable to locate where the Install Bar is declared.

Any clue ?

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [Om2008.12] Remove Install Bar

2009-01-16 Thread Gothnet



boilersoup wrote:
 
 On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:02:28 +1300
 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 personally, i think the asu theme (the stock one installed on the
 freerunner) blows, and you'd be best off switching it for something
 ore useful - there are plenty around on the web. the illume one,
 included on the phone, doesn't have that bar in, and does include the
 decent keyboard, and the wrench for further config of illume
 
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 I like the asu theme and I'm comfortable with decompiling and recreating
 the edc / edj files.
 
 I already knew all the web references you gave me
 but I'm still unable to locate where the Install Bar is declared.
 
 Any clue ?
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 

I did this previously by going through all the resources, one by one,
disabling them and then recompiling the theme. It took a couple of hours but
it worked. Whichever file you use to tell the theme to set a background
image, it's in there somewhere.

Of course, since then I've reflashed the phone several times and never did
note down what I'd done. D'oh.
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Re: [Om2008.12] Remove Install Bar (raster?)

2009-01-16 Thread boilers...@gmail.com
 I did this previously by going through all the resources, one by one,
 disabling them and then recompiling the theme. It took a couple of hours but
 it worked. Whichever file you use to tell the theme to set a background
 image, it's in there somewhere.
 
 Of course, since then I've reflashed the phone several times and never did
 note down what I'd done. D'oh.

I can't seem to find it.
Maybe this ticket is the beginning of the INSTALLER button story ?
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1582

If yes, Raster: how do I remove the bottom Install Bar ?


Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [Om2008.12] Remove Install Bar (raster?)

2009-01-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:22:35 +0100 boilers...@gmail.com
boilers...@gmail.com babbled:

  I did this previously by going through all the resources, one by one,
  disabling them and then recompiling the theme. It took a couple of hours but
  it worked. Whichever file you use to tell the theme to set a background
  image, it's in there somewhere.
  
  Of course, since then I've reflashed the phone several times and never did
  note down what I'd done. D'oh.
 
 I can't seem to find it.
 Maybe this ticket is the beginning of the INSTALLER button story ?
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1582
 
 If yes, Raster: how do I remove the bottom Install Bar ?

you can at best just modify the theme to have blank invisible stuff for
flaunch. you can't get rid of it. by the time i implemented this specifically
for the om ui design, there as no point making it optional because 1. there was
unhappiness me spending any time on anything out of spec (so making it
optional is out of spec). and even if i did make it an option - om had no
desire to use the config ui illume/e already had and wanted their own python
exposure thing - which wasn't going to get an option for this - as the ui for
that was specified explicitly.

so basically its there. like it or not. at best you can fiddle the theme to
make it invisible. :)

i normally have a policy of making as much configurable or modular as possible
(or that is sane/i have the time to do). it's a real pain as anything always
takes longer to do at the start as you have to sit and think of a whole bunch
of possible configuration cases and how that interacts with everything else
etc. so i understand why om doesnt want config - but you pay the price for it
later when users dont like what they have and are stuck. :(

i haven't really fiddled with illume much of late (working on e core and
elementary), but when i roll back around to it i'm going to really gut illume
into multiple modules, and do the ui so it's much better and closer to what i'd
have wanted :) but it will just take time.

-- 
- Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am --
The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com


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[Om2008.12] Remove Install Bar

2009-01-15 Thread boilers...@gmail.com
Hi All,

I'd like to remove the INSTALLER button on the bottom of the screen.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Edje does not work for me ( 
/usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/asu/freerunner.edc does not have any 
Bar; string )

can you help me ?


Thanks for supporting,
have a nice day.
Mike

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Re: [Om2008.12] Remove Install Bar

2009-01-15 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/16 boilers...@gmail.com boilers...@gmail.com:
 I'd like to remove the INSTALLER button on the bottom of the screen.

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Edje does not work for me ( 
 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/asu/freerunner.edc does not have any 
 Bar; string )

 can you help me ?

personally, i think the asu theme (the stock one installed on the
freerunner) blows, and you'd be best off switching it for something
ore useful - there are plenty around on the web. the illume one,
included on the phone, doesn't have that bar in, and does include the
decent keyboard, and the wrench for further config of illume

have a look on the wiki for how to switch:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#How_to_install_the_illume_.28Raster.27s.29_keyboard_.3F

there is a way to edit the asu theme, but it involves decompiling the
.edj file, which in itself requires installing a mountain of software,
editing it and then recompiling. it's time-consuming afaict

info on editing .edj files, courtesy of joel newkirk:
1 - edje-decc to decompile the theme back to config files and images and
what-not, manually edit the aforementioned parts, and recompile with
edje-cc.  These two tools should be available in your friendly package feed
for your Freerunner as 'edje-tools' IIRC, and possibly for your desktop
linux.

2 - edje-editor.  I've installed e17 from CVS on Ubuntu using easy-e17.sh,
(http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/#easy_e17.sh)  did so under my vmware
development environment.  Edje-editor comes with the works in that case, I
don't know how available (or recent) it is in prepackaged binary form,
however.  It's important to keep in mind that the editor (and indeed E17
itself) is not finished at this time.  It works, quite nicely in some
regards, but has some flaws and some distinctly missing features.  (like it
can't remove a no-longer-used background image from the .edj file, that
currently requires manual intervention)

If you're interested in using the editor, check out
http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Edje_Editor and the blog post I've
been working on the past few days at http://jthinks.com/retheming-with-edje
for an introduction to things.  (my blog post is documenting my recent
efforts retheming the dialer within SHR, though as I point out in the
article the process applies equally to anything utilizing Edje, such as the
launcher and top shelf)  Also check the 'EFL Documentation' thread running
the past few days.  (EFL=Enlightenment Foundation Libraries, and includes
Edje)

up to you which is easiest

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