Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
Olivier Migeot wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Could that be the default configuration? That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno if many operators do that - its IP is directly reachable from the Wild (i.e. anybody could be able to know where you are... ). That is something I can prevent if I want to. (Have iptables block incoming SYN+ACK packets on ppp0) Or perhaps I want some friends to be able to see this. However, I don't think there are any operators that do this. IP addresses are expensive, so they surely don't want to hand them out to phones - almost none of the net surfing phones can run any server software anyway. The FR can, and perhaps you can hack it on a few others. The rest merely runs browsers... To check: open one of those webpages that show you your own IP address. Then try shh to that address. I cannot imagine this working... Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On 21 Aug 2009, at 16:15, Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Could that be the default configuration? That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno if many operators do that - its IP is directly reachable from the Wild (i.e. anybody could be able to know where you are... ). Then block it in the default iptables rules Is iptables sure to be running by default? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Saturday 22 August 2009, Stroller wrote: On 21 Aug 2009, at 16:15, Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Could that be the default configuration? That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno if many operators do that - its IP is directly reachable from the Wild (i.e. anybody could be able to know where you are... ). Then block it in the default iptables rules Is iptables sure to be running by default? If it isn't already then it should be, with some sensibly safe defaults. Since we're talking about changing default settings I don't see why we shouldn't consider the default state of iptables too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] DAEMON_OPTS=-S localhost:gpsd -P $PIDFILE r...@om-gta02 ~ $ fso-gpsd -? [...] -S integer (default 2947) Set port for daemon [...] so you could provide just -S gpsd so daemon listen an all IPs... Could that be the default configuration? A laptop display is bigger, which is convenient for looking at maps. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Could that be the default configuration? That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno if many operators do that - its IP is directly reachable from the Wild (i.e. anybody could be able to know where you are... ). Wifi and BT interfaces are less of a problem, since people close enough to connect your moko would probably know where you are already ;) -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Friday 21 August 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Could that be the default configuration? That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno if many operators do that - its IP is directly reachable from the Wild (i.e. anybody could be able to know where you are... ). Then block it in the default iptables rules ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:33:48PM +0200, arne anka wrote: And not from e.g. a local TangoGPS. that wasn't the question. It should be clear from his question that he's likely not capable of figuring that side effect out himself. Don't you think it is something he should be told about? -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
[cut] DAEMON_OPTS=-S localhost:gpsd -P $PIDFILE r...@om-gta02 ~ $ fso-gpsd -? [...] -S integer (default 2947) Set port for daemon [...] so you could provide just -S gpsd so daemon listen an all IPs... -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:17:49AM -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: morning all. i was just sitting here on my debian laptop, poking around with tango gps. now my laptop does not have any sort of gps so i get the no gps found deal at the bottom. that got me thinking, has anyone setup there freerunner to act as a gps device for there laptops? Yes! This very questions was asked and answered not even a week ago. You're supposed to search the archives before asking, you know. https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-August/053218.html -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:52:41PM +0200, arne anka wrote: a quick glance over /etc/init.dfso-gpsd did not reveal an easy way to change that. a glance a tad slower shows the line DAEMON_OPTS=-S localhost:gpsd -P $PIDFILE change localhost to 192.168.0.202 and the gpsd is available from outer space ... And not from e.g. a local TangoGPS. Reading the manual page which explains how to make it work is left as an excercise to the reader. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
And not from e.g. a local TangoGPS. that wasn't the question. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
Hi Rask, Perhaps you can also point Jeremy to this easy, one-click search of all months archives for the Openmoko lists... Where would one find that? Niels. -- Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house. Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:51:30 +0200 From: ccc94...@vip.cybercity.dk To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit? On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:17:49AM -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: morning all. i was just sitting here on my debian laptop, poking around with tango gps. now my laptop does not have any sort of gps so i get the no gps found deal at the bottom. that got me thinking, has anyone setup there freerunner to act as a gps device for there laptops? Yes! This very questions was asked and answered not even a week ago. You're supposed to search the archives before asking, you know. https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-August/053218.html -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Hebben jij en je vrienden leuke foto's van jullie feestje? Maak een groepsalbum en geniet nog extra na. http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Niels Heyvaertnielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote: Perhaps you can also point Jeremy to this easy, one-click search of all months archives for the Openmoko lists... your such a sweet heart. dont open it or respond to it if it causes you such a headache. sorry, didnt use the search. im a busy person. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[all / linux] neo as gps unit?
morning all. i was just sitting here on my debian laptop, poking around with tango gps. now my laptop does not have any sort of gps so i get the no gps found deal at the bottom. that got me thinking, has anyone setup there freerunner to act as a gps device for there laptops? if so, is there a wiki about it? if not, is it possible to do? - jeremy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
jeremy jozwik wrote: morning all. i was just sitting here on my debian laptop, poking around with tango gps. now my laptop does not have any sort of gps so i get the no gps found deal at the bottom. that got me thinking, has anyone setup there freerunner to act as a gps device for there laptops? if so, is there a wiki about it? if not, is it possible to do? It is possible, indeed. You might be interested in reading [1] K- [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Using_GPS -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-all---linux--neo-as-gps-unit--tp3466677p3466761.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:17:49AM -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: morning all. i was just sitting here on my debian laptop, poking around with tango gps. now my laptop does not have any sort of gps so i get the no gps found deal at the bottom. that got me thinking, has anyone setup there freerunner to act as a gps device for there laptops? if so, is there a wiki about it? if not, is it possible to do? Its quite easy to setup. 1) check /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd and set -S parametr to ip:port where ip is ie ip address of your wifi interface on neo where you would like to access gpsd from laptop, and port you can keep default gpsd. 2) on laptop check that this ip address is available with ping and then set address of gpsd in tangogps last tab to that ip. 3) if something goes wrong, check port availability with nmap and gps data on laptop side with gpspipe. -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa pgpF5AONh5A0m.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:33 AM, KaZeRka...@altern.org wrote: It is possible, indeed. You might be interested in reading [1] K- nice, have you done this? on my debian lenny i get a usage response when running nc -vvn -l -p 5000 /tmp/nmeaNP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
jeremy jozwik wrote: morning all. i was just sitting here on my debian laptop, poking around with tango gps. now my laptop does not have any sort of gps so i get the no gps found deal at the bottom. that got me thinking, has anyone setup there freerunner to act as a gps device for there laptops? if so, is there a wiki about it? if not, is it possible to do? It is simple, because sharing a gps unit over the network is an old feature of linux. The freerunner makes its gps available on port 2947. So, just connect your laptop and phone. If you use the usb cable, the phone will have ip address 192.168.0.202 Set up your laptop gps software to use the gps unit at 192.168.0.202:2947, instead of the default localhost:2947. It worked well last time I tried it. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
[cut] if not, is it possible to do? You might try this: http://www.opkg.org/package_91.html -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: You might try this: http://www.opkg.org/package_91.html interesting. not sure if my laptop has bluetooth though... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
Just use USB and gpsd. It works perfectly well. Except for me, my GPS quit working a while back and hasn't started again yet. }:( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
It is possible, indeed. You might be interested in reading [1] K- [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Using_GPS Neither of the two methods offered in that wiki worked for me... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Mikhail Umorinmike...@gmail.com wrote: Neither of the two methods offered in that wiki worked for me... oh good, so its not just me who cant use that nc code listed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
The freerunner makes its gps available on port 2947. So, just connect your laptop and phone. If you use the usb cable, the phone will have ip address 192.168.0.202 Set up your laptop gps software to use the gps unit at 192.168.0.202:2947, instead of the default localhost:2947. doesn't work here -- according to netstat fso-gpsd listens on 127.0.0.1 only. a quick glance over /etc/init.dfso-gpsd did not reveal an easy way to change that. ssh -L 2947:localhost:2947 r...@192.168.0.202 otoh works immediately (and does not require to modify the navit.xml). but i would defiitely prefer the solution you describe, so, someone out there having some ideas how to make fso-gpsd communicate with the outside world? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
a quick glance over /etc/init.dfso-gpsd did not reveal an easy way to change that. a glance a tad slower shows the line DAEMON_OPTS=-S localhost:gpsd -P $PIDFILE change localhost to 192.168.0.202 and the gpsd is available from outer space ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
