Re: [android] Maps application

2008-12-08 Thread Cédric Berger
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 21:45, Jim Ancona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IANAL, but the SDK license agreement says Except to the extent required
 by applicable third party licenses, you may not load any part of the SDK
 onto a mobile handset or any other hardware device except a personal
 computer, combine any part of the SDK with other software, or distribute
 any software or device incorporating a part of the SDK. I would read
 that as prohibiting even installing anything from the SDK on your own
 phone, never mind distributing it.


Yes, the point missing here is the applicable third party licence.
(and it is not even really third party !).
I see no reason why google would not allow the use of this API. Not
open sourcing it is one thing, but it is an important piece of their
framework, and their goal is to spread the use of android and its
applications...


 Even if the API were available, Google's TOS are fairly restrictive (see
  http://code.google.com/android/maps-api-signup.html). In particular,
 you may not use the Service or Content with any products, systems, or
 applications for or in connection with (a) real time navigation or route
 guidance based on position input from a sensor (including but not
 limited to any visual or audible turn-byturn route guidance). That
 seems to prohibit even using the GPS to indicate the direction to your
 destination.

 To avoid all these issues, one alternative is OSMdroid, a
 reimplementation of the Maps API using Open Street Maps data. It's at:

 http://code.google.com/p/osmdroid/


I have installed Andnav 2. Looks really promising. I do not know if it
can run without google.map API (since I did add the library for other
tests)
Andnav1 was depending on it and its data. But due to licence issues,
(for advanced use as navigation, offline cache,...), version 2 uses
OSM.

I will try the GPS tracking soon. For now, I could not test much
because I cannot get internet connectivity with Android on my neo.
But I cached some maps within Andnav2 in the Emulator, then copied
them onto my neo, so I can navigate the maps now.

(to try Andnav, you have to register on their site, but for I think it
is not yet opened to the US)
http://www.andnav.org/
http://www.andnav.org/index.php/community-forum?task=viewtopicid=12

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Re: [android] Maps application

2008-12-08 Thread Jim Ancona
Cédric Berger wrote:
 I see no reason why google would not allow the use of this API. Not
 open sourcing it is one thing, but it is an important piece of their
 framework, and their goal is to spread the use of android and its
 applications...

I agree completely! Now if someone from Google would chime in... :-)

 I have installed Andnav 2. Looks really promising. I do not know if it
 can run without google.map API (since I did add the library for other
 tests)
 Andnav1 was depending on it and its data. But due to licence issues,
 (for advanced use as navigation, offline cache,...), version 2 uses
 OSM.

It seems that Andnav is not open source, while osmdroid is GPL3. Same 
developer name in both places, so I'm guessing that Andnav uses osmdroid 
under the I can relicense my code to myself exception.

Apparently he plans to start charging for Andnav, but he's also asking 
for donations to fund a US server. Sounds like there's still some 
confusion about a business model.

osmdroid may still be a good option for an unencumbered Maps API for 
Android, especially if Google doesn't make their maps API distributable 
on devices running open source Android.

What I'd really like to see is a cloned (i.e. just change package name), 
open source reimplementation of the Google maps API with pluggable back 
ends that make it easy to use various map sources including OSM. I guess 
I should stop talking about it and start coding.

Jim




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Re: [android] Maps application

2008-12-05 Thread Cédric Berger
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 09:04, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - I finally got a GPS fix ! (but I really miss a simple GPS
 application to see basic GPS data.)
 But Maps crashes as soon as GPS has got a fix. ( ClassCastException
 when trying to locate on map). I lost my log file so I need to do
 another test (and get a fix) to get the exact class
 Any idea ? :


Finally got the log when trying to locate  :

/AndroidRuntime( 5729): Shutting down VM
W/dalvikvm( 5729): threadid=3: thread exiting with uncaught exception
(group=0x40010e28)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729): Uncaught handler: thread main exiting due to
uncaught exception
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729): java.lang.ClassCastException:
android.graphics.drawable.BitmapDrawable
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.getLocationDot(MyLocationOverlay.java:179)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.drawMyLocation(MyLocationOverlay.java:541)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.draw(MyLocationOverlay.java:491)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
com.google.android.maps.OverlayBundle.draw(OverlayBundle.java:45)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
com.google.android.maps.MapView.onDraw(MapView.java:451)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.View.draw(View.java:5352)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1436)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchDraw(ViewGroup.java:1208)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1434)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchDraw(ViewGroup.java:1208)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1434)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchDraw(ViewGroup.java:1208)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.View.draw(View.java:5355)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
android.widget.FrameLayout.draw(FrameLayout.java:324)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
com.android.internal.policy.impl.PhoneWindow$DecorView.draw(PhoneWindow.java:1701)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.ViewRoot.draw(ViewRoot.java:980)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
android.view.ViewRoot.performTraversals(ViewRoot.java:829)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
android.view.ViewRoot.handleMessage(ViewRoot.java:1103)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at 
android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:88)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:123)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:3742)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
java.lang.reflect.Method.invokeNative(Native Method)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at 
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:515)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:739)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at
com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:497)
E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at dalvik.system.NativeStart.main(Native Method)
I/Process (  869): Sending signal. PID: 5729 SIG: 3
I/dalvikvm( 5729): threadid=7: reacting to signal 3
I/dalvikvm( 5729): Wrote stack trace to '/data/anr/traces.txt'







- Note that I also have a lot of these logs. Maybe normal since I
have no connection so no map tiles available, but it should not try
(and fail) to show empty tiles...

D/skia( 5729): xxx jpeg error 53 Not a JPEG file: starts
with 0x%02x 0x%02x
E/MapView ( 5729): IllegalStateException on drawMap. Wiping cache.
E/MapView ( 5729): java.lang.IllegalStateException: Null
Bitmap!/loading_tile.png=17301864
E/MapView ( 5729):  at
com.google.common.graphics.android.AndroidImage.init(Unknown Source)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at
com.google.common.graphics.android.AndroidImageFactory.createImage(Unknown
Source)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at com.google.googlenav.map.MapTile.c(Unknown Source)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at com.google.googlenav.map.MapTile.getImage(Unknown 
Source)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at com.google.googlenav.map.Map.a(Unknown Source)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at com.google.googlenav.map.Map.drawMap(Unknown Source)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at 
com.google.android.maps.MapView.drawMap(MapView.java:997)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at 
com.google.android.maps.MapView.onDraw(MapView.java:443)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at android.view.View.draw(View.java:5352)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1436)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at 
android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchDraw(ViewGroup.java:1208)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1434)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at 
android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchDraw(ViewGroup.java:1208)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1434)
E/MapView ( 5729):  at