Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008, Jelle De Loecker wrote: What vesion did you use? I could not install the stable one, as I didn't want the echo problem. Hearing EVERYONE say I can hear myself as if there's something I can do about it, is very annoying. I've had that happen to me sometimes since yesterday and I figured out why. When I answer calls, the phone sometimes automatically jumps to (or starts the cal in) speakerphone mode. Click Options-Headset fixes the echo. Mildly annoying sure, but nothing that understanding friends can't live with :) --gera. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must say I am quite pleased with the Freerunner and QTextended. Battery life is quite good (much more than 1 day). Do note I don't call much and don't play around with wifi/gprs/gps at the moment. Battery life seems good, but I have noticed that since the last two days, my FR gets switched off although battery status must have been around 70% before I went to sleep...I did use wifi but put it offline, so either it continues to drain power, or the alarm that doesn't ring drains it in the morningwho knows. I noticed that plugging in the headset (while in the car for handsfree phone) or listening to music makes the FR switch to plugged in mode, and unplugging the headset did not switch the FR back to unplugged. Did more people notice this? I did too, and was going to post it today, but I noticed that once I receive a call and have to switch to speakerphone mode to get the earpiece to work, the phone seems to revert to 'on battery' state, and then the screen dims, blanks out and the phone suspends normally. Let me know if this works for you too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Devendra Gera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 09 Oct 2008, Jelle De Loecker wrote: What vesion did you use? I could not install the stable one, as I didn't want the echo problem. Hearing EVERYONE say I can hear myself as if there's something I can do about it, is very annoying. I've had that happen to me sometimes since yesterday and I figured out why. When I answer calls, the phone sometimes automatically jumps to (or starts the cal in) speakerphone mode. Click Options-Headset fixes the echo. Mildly annoying sure, but nothing that understanding friends can't live with :) To the OP: I have posted two .state files sometime back, but the message still awaits moderator approval. If it does not get through, try changing the settings mentioned here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem under Alsamixer channel controls in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ HTH. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
I have posted two .state files sometime back, but the message still awaits moderator approval. If it does not get through, try changing the settings mentioned here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem under Alsamixer channel controls in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ Thank you. I'll have a look somewhere over the day! Paul -- People who fight fire with fire usually end up with ashes. -Abigail Van Buren http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:32 AM, David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't work for me too. Every call received with phone suspended is a missed call. Mi SIM is VERY antique (december 1999). Might be this the problem? Mine isn't quite new either (like mid-2000), and it's working pretty well with Qt Extended. Never missed a call for about a week. I'm using the latest mewster kernel and the latest root image, both from qtextended.org, both flashed to internal storage. Hope this helps (but I doubt it). -- Olivier M. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Paul schreef: it's really very easy fast to use. Too bad you're experiencing all that crap! Maybe try an older image like 4.3.2 ? (Just an idea, I own the freerunner for almost a full week now...) /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ En vriendelijke groeten terug... Paul I'm afraid I found the cause of all my problems... I, perhaps naïvely, thought that the sqlite database from Om2008.x was the same as the one in QTextended. Although it did work, I believe it caused all my breakage. On another CLEAN flash I didn't experience any of my previous problems. I really like the way QTextended looks and feels. All the programs integrate nicely, fast, snappy response, ... That's what's still lacking on the Om2008.x releases. Programs are pulled from various places, everything looks messy, ... But they'll get there ;) Does anyone know of a way to synchronise data from QTextended with my desktop? Groeten uit Vlaanderen :P Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
On Thursday 09 October 2008 18:02:57 Cédric Berger wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 17:48, Russell Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it lasted around three hours (moderate usage) BUT I did have Bluetooth and wifi turned on. Will try again tomorrow! Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but we can't have everything, can we? Wake up on call /sms works pretty well for me. It doesn't work for me too. Every call received with phone suspended is a missed call. Mi SIM is VERY antique (december 1999). Might be this the problem? Shoud I try to get a duplicate or is a good thing to have it for testing openmoko with such an old hardware? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtextended] After 4 days...
I must say I am quite pleased with the Freerunner and QTextended. Battery life is quite good (much more than 1 day). Do note I don't call much and don't play around with wifi/gprs/gps at the moment. I noticed that plugging in the headset (while in the car for handsfree phone) or listening to music makes the FR switch to plugged in mode, and unplugging the headset did not switch the FR back to unplugged. Did more people notice this? Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
I found it lasted around three hours (moderate usage) BUT I did have Bluetooth and wifi turned on. Will try again tomorrow! Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but we can't have everything, can we? 2008/10/9 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] I must say I am quite pleased with the Freerunner and QTextended. Battery life is quite good (much more than 1 day). Do note I don't call much and don't play around with wifi/gprs/gps at the moment. I noticed that plugging in the headset (while in the car for handsfree phone) or listening to music makes the FR switch to plugged in mode, and unplugging the headset did not switch the FR back to unplugged. Did more people notice this? Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 17:48, Russell Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it lasted around three hours (moderate usage) BUT I did have Bluetooth and wifi turned on. Will try again tomorrow! Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but we can't have everything, can we? Wake up on call /sms works pretty well for me. Still a lot of problems though (as reported by others too) Battery life is not too bad... even if sometimes it is suddenly emptied really quickly (even if I did not try to use wifi/bluetooth). And I often have to reboot into qtopia 4.3.2 just to force my GSM to register to my operator (once it has switch to roaming operator it comes into a very erratic behaviour and can't register elsewhere...) Also there is still the bug in vibrate only mode... when called it begins vibrating and only a shutdown can stop it... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
2008/10/9 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also there is still the bug in vibrate only mode... when called it begins vibrating and only a shutdown can stop it... sorry - but I just creased up when I read that - haven't come across that bug yet! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but we can't have everything, can we? We can't. But I think this feature is essential! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
What vesion did you use? I could not install the stable one, as I didn't want the echo problem. Hearing EVERYONE say I can hear myself as if there's something I can do about it, is very annoying. After I installed QTExtended I tried a few settings. I tried activating the wheel thing. It crashed. And it didn't want to start qtopia again. I had to reflash. Second time I pressed the telephone icon on the main screen. It crashed. It didn't want to start qtopia again. I was at work, so I couldn't reflash, I just deleted a few files and it came back. Now I come home and I see my phone is shut off. I try to start it again, but it does absolutely nothing. Nothing! It's as if it's bricked. Then I plugged in my USB cable and I saw it boot. Although, qtopia didn't want to start again. When I remove the cable and shut the phone off again (even though it never really boot up) it won't start by pressing the button again. I guess I'll have to reflash again! It's a shame, beyond these unbelievably bad crashes it's really very easy fast to use. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg Paul schreef: I must say I am quite pleased with the Freerunner and QTextended. Battery life is quite good (much more than 1 day). Do note I don't call much and don't play around with wifi/gprs/gps at the moment. I noticed that plugging in the headset (while in the car for handsfree phone) or listening to music makes the FR switch to plugged in mode, and unplugging the headset did not switch the FR back to unplugged. Did more people notice this? Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Jelle De Loecker wrote: What vesion did you use? Qtextended 4.4.2 and uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin I could not install the stable one, as I didn't want the echo problem. Hearing EVERYONE say I can hear myself as if there's something I can do about it, is very annoying. I heard today that turning down the speaker volume should fix this somewhat. Problem is that, after a reboot, this is set to max again. I intend to have a look at some files and see if I can incorporate a dirty hack for the time being, to fix this. No promises that this will bring anything, though. After I installed QTExtended I tried a few settings. I tried activating the wheel thing. It crashed. And it didn't want to start qtopia again. I had to reflash. I know about the wheel not working. I reflashed also, but learnt later that hitting the AUX button would have fixed the problem. You live and learn. Second time I pressed the telephone icon on the main screen. It crashed. It didn't want to start qtopia again. I was at work, so I couldn't reflash, I just deleted a few files and it came back. Now I come home and I see my phone is shut off. I try to start it again, but it does absolutely nothing. Nothing! It's as if it's bricked. ... I guess I'll have to reflash again! It's a shame, beyond these unbelievably bad crashes it's really very easy fast to use. Too bad you're experiencing all that crap! Maybe try an older image like 4.3.2 ? (Just an idea, I own the freerunner for almost a full week now...) /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ En vriendelijke groeten terug... Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Cédric Berger wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 17:48, Russell Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it lasted around three hours (moderate usage) BUT I did have Bluetooth and wifi turned on. Will try again tomorrow! Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but we can't have everything, can we Wake up on call /sms works pretty well for me. Also for me. Actually it did that 3 minutes ago again! Also there is still the bug in vibrate only mode... when called it begins vibrating and only a shutdown can stop it... shudder That is not nice. Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
I heard today that turning down the speaker volume should fix this somewhat. Problem is that, after a reboot, this is set to max again. I intend to have a look at some files and see if I can incorporate a dirty hack for the time being, to fix this. No promises that this will bring anything, though. Right. No fix, since I don't see a place where I could grab it in the neck. I did find that the phone volume setting is in /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/Phone.conf. Somehow, after a reboot, the setting of this file is not used and implemented, but some default setting is used. I found the default Qtopia Phone.conf and played around with that, but to no avail. After a reboot the speaker volume is at 127 (max), not at 90 (which is in the Phone.conf in $HOME/Settings/Trolltech/Phone.conf). After just looking at the setting, Phone.conf is updated already, overwriting the preferred setting. Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Paul wrote: I heard today that turning down the speaker volume should fix this somewhat. Problem is that, after a reboot, this is set to max again. I intend to have a look at some files and see if I can incorporate a dirty hack for the time being, to fix this. No promises that this will bring anything, though. Right. No fix, since I don't see a place where I could grab it in the neck. I did find that the phone volume setting is in /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/Phone.conf. Somehow, after a reboot, the setting of this file is not used and implemented, but some default setting is used. I found the default Qtopia Phone.conf and played around with that, but to no avail. After a reboot the speaker volume is at 127 (max), not at 90 (which is in the Phone.conf in $HOME/Settings/Trolltech/Phone.conf). After just looking at the setting, Phone.conf is updated already, overwriting the preferred setting. Paul You can do this to twiddle with volumes: alsactl restore -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarious/stereout.state alsamixer alsactl store -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarious/stereout.state this goes for any of the files in there, like gsmhandset.state -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Hello Lorn, You can do this to twiddle with volumes: alsactl restore -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarious/stereout.state alsamixer alsactl store -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarious/stereout.stat Magic! Thank you! New toys to play with. :-) Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
