Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Vasco Névoa wrote: Treviño, can you please attach whatever patch you have for this on the Trac ticket (#1832, I think)? There are at least 3 tickets open with relation to this problem, and Holger is asking where is the patch... please put it up, even if it is not finished. I'm sure he will know what to do. :) Done in #2038 [1]! Due to the UCS2 codec usage added in the past days I had to add a workaround, but in all my tests the code works as expected. So, now I'm just waiting for your improvements ;). Bye! [1] https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2038 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Very nice patch, Treviño. :) Standards-compliance can be a little hairy sometimes. I can see why a responsible, otherwise-occupied person would take a little while to publish. ;) Thanks, and happy hacking! Citando Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Vasco Névoa wrote: Treviño, can you please attach whatever patch you have for this on the Trac ticket (#1832, I think)? There are at least 3 tickets open with relation to this problem, and Holger is asking where is the patch... please put it up, even if it is not finished. I'm sure he will know what to do. :) Done in #2038 [1]! Due to the UCS2 codec usage added in the past days I had to add a workaround, but in all my tests the code works as expected. So, now I'm just waiting for your improvements ;). Bye! [1] https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2038 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Treviño, can you please attach whatever patch you have for this on the Trac ticket (#1832, I think)? There are at least 3 tickets open with relation to this problem, and Holger is asking where is the patch... please put it up, even if it is not finished. I'm sure he will know what to do. :) Thanks! Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Holger Freyther wrote: On Thursday 18 September 2008 19:05:51 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Ok, I was right... The latest upgrade to phonevendor plugin in git blocked it [1] Grab this [2] and put it in /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors. Restart the phone (reloading qpe wasn't enough to me) and it should work. [1] 563d5f4c781efe1a11680c6a055b409034b528ab [2] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/qtopia-ussd-support-phone-ve ndor.tar.gz Source? Patch? GPL? You're right. Completely. I generally never release binaries without diffs, but the patch I've with me is so bad and I'm so busy with my personal tasks that I had no time to upload anything in the last days. I'll try to do this as soon as I can. Sorry! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Holger Freyther wrote: On Thursday 18 September 2008 19:05:51 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Ok, I was right... The latest upgrade to phonevendor plugin in git blocked it [1] Grab this [2] and put it in /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors. Restart the phone (reloading qpe wasn't enough to me) and it should work. [1] 563d5f4c781efe1a11680c6a055b409034b528ab [2] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/qtopia-ussd-support-phone-ve ndor.tar.gz Source? Patch? GPL? You're right. Completely. I generally never release binaries without diffs, but the patch I've with me is so bad and I'm so busy with my personal tasks that I had no time to upload anything in the last days. With GPL stuff, I always find it's best to upload the source code *first*. License compliance is not something that you can wave off with a oh, I didn't have time to do that this week. Either you had time to comply with the license, or you shouldn't have distributed the binary. The GPL applies to hobbyists just as much as it applies to big corporations. The hobbyists often cry loud when big corporations delay the release of source code - please don't give those same corporations ammunition to say well, the community doesn't release source immediately, so why should we. Either upload the source, or remove the binary. It's as simple as that. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Rod Whitby ha scritto: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Holger Freyther wrote: Source? Patch? GPL? You're right. Completely. I generally never release binaries without diffs, but the patch I've with me is so bad and I'm so busy with my personal tasks that I had no time to upload anything in the last days. With GPL stuff, I always find it's best to upload the source code *first*. Yes, you're right. That's what I always do, as said. The GPL applies to hobbyists just as much as it applies to big corporations. The hobbyists often cry loud when big corporations delay the release of source code - please don't give those same corporations ammunition to say well, the community doesn't release source immediately, so why should we. Yes, you're right. But I've done this just once mainly for testing purposes and after a request coming from some users. Either upload the source, or remove the binary. It's as simple as that. Ok, binary removed... That has been important for testing, BTW. Sorry for not putting any source out yet, but my time is really full of things :(. And please, don't give me the role of the bad guy against (or snubbing) GPL because you'd be really wrong. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
On Thursday 18 September 2008 19:05:51 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Ok, I was right... The latest upgrade to phonevendor plugin in git blocked it [1] Grab this [2] and put it in /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors. Restart the phone (reloading qpe wasn't enough to me) and it should work. [1] 563d5f4c781efe1a11680c6a055b409034b528ab [2] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/qtopia-ussd-support-phone-ve ndor.tar.gz Source? Patch? GPL? z. PS: Asking people to use plain binaries is the perfect way of making me ignore Qtopia bugs... As I don't want to ask people to send md5sum's of every single file on their neo. It creates a support hell I'm not willing to take. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Holger Freyther wrote: On Thursday 18 September 2008 19:05:51 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Ok, I was right... The latest upgrade to phonevendor plugin in git blocked it [1] Grab this [2] and put it in /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors. Restart the phone (reloading qpe wasn't enough to me) and it should work. [1] 563d5f4c781efe1a11680c6a055b409034b528ab [2] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/qtopia-ussd-support-phone-ve ndor.tar.gz Source? Patch? GPL? You're right. Completely. I generally never release binaries without diffs, but the patch I've with me is so bad and I'm so busy with my personal tasks that I had no time to upload anything in the last days. I'll try to do this as soon as I can. Sorry! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Lorn Potter wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: I've made a patch for it [1] and as you can see it works [2] :P, but I had no time yet to attach it to the trac (ehm, also because the other patches I've made to qtopia haven't been neither reviewed :|). Which were those? The patch isn't available yet... I had no time to format it correctly :/ I hope to attach it tomorrow... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: I'd love to test a patched binary, but im not really in a hurry so knowing that the patch is already commited is still great news. thanks treviño Ok, you can test them extracting the content of this archive [1] in /opt/Qtopia/lib/ and restart qtopia (qpe). If this doesn't work please, dial the number and report what's written in logread. Here (where it works) for example I get (for USSD): AtChat : T : AT+CUSD=1,*123#,15 AtChat : F : OK AtChat : N : +CUSD: 0,Il credito e': 0.00 Euro.,15 [2] And for *,# calls (unknown number here): AtChat : T : ATD#123; AtChat : N : %CPI: 1,9,0,0,0,0,#123,129 But sometimes I got some strange errors. These have appeared only after the latest git updates (that's why I'm not using the HEAD as base), so if you get errors we'll try to go back to find the issue... However let me know how these libs works for you (I hope they will be accepted by your qtopia version; I'm using a version compiled with the toolchain here). BTW Do backups in any case... Bye! [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/qtopia-ussd-support-testlibs .tar.gz [2] I'm rich, eh?! :D Hello, thank you! but i get Sep 18 18:16:29 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : T : AT+CUSD=1,*101#,15 Sep 18 18:16:29 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : F : +CMS ERROR: 320 Sep 18 18:16:47 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : %CSQ: 26, 99, 3 Sep 18 18:16:47 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 4 Sep 18 18:16:52 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : %CSQ: 20, 99, 2 Sep 18 18:16:52 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 3 at o2 - de be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 schrieb Natanael Arndt: Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: I'd love to test a patched binary, but im not really in a hurry so knowing that the patch is already commited is still great news. thanks treviño Ok, you can test them extracting the content of this archive [1] in /opt/Qtopia/lib/ and restart qtopia (qpe). If this doesn't work please, dial the number and report what's written in logread. Here (where it works) for example I get (for USSD): AtChat : T : AT+CUSD=1,*123#,15 AtChat : F : OK AtChat : N : +CUSD: 0,Il credito e': 0.00 Euro.,15 [2] And for *,# calls (unknown number here): AtChat : T : ATD#123; AtChat : N : %CPI: 1,9,0,0,0,0,#123,129 But sometimes I got some strange errors. These have appeared only after the latest git updates (that's why I'm not using the HEAD as base), so if you get errors we'll try to go back to find the issue... However let me know how these libs works for you (I hope they will be accepted by your qtopia version; I'm using a version compiled with the toolchain here). BTW Do backups in any case... Bye! [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/qtopia-ussd-support-testli bs .tar.gz [2] I'm rich, eh?! :D Hello, thank you! but i get Sep 18 18:16:29 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : T : AT+CUSD=1,*101#,15 Sep 18 18:16:29 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : F : +CMS ERROR: 320 Sep 18 18:16:47 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : %CSQ: 26, 99, 3 Sep 18 18:16:47 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 4 Sep 18 18:16:52 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : %CSQ: 20, 99, 2 Sep 18 18:16:52 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 3 at o2 - de With Medion Mobile (E+) [germany] i get the same error code but other values below, don't know if this makes a difference. Sep 18 18:31:48 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : T : AT+CUSD=1,*100#,15 Sep 18 18:31:48 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : F : +CMS ERROR: 320 Sep 18 18:31:48 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 Sep 18 18:31:48 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 2 Sep 18 18:31:58 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 Sep 18 18:31:58 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 3 be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Natanael Arndt wrote: Sep 18 18:16:29 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : T : AT+CUSD=1,*101#,15 Sep 18 18:16:29 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : F : +CMS ERROR: 320 Sep 18 18:16:47 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : %CSQ: 26, 99, 3 Sep 18 18:16:47 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 4 Sep 18 18:16:52 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : %CSQ: 20, 99, 2 Sep 18 18:16:52 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 3 at o2 - de With Medion Mobile (E+) [germany] i get the same error code but other values below, don't know if this makes a difference. Sep 18 18:31:48 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : T : AT+CUSD=1,*100#,15 Sep 18 18:31:48 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : F : +CMS ERROR: 320 Sep 18 18:31:48 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 Sep 18 18:31:48 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 2 Sep 18 18:31:58 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 Sep 18 18:31:58 mokophone user.notice root: AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 3 Ok, I was right... The latest upgrade to phonevendor plugin in git blocked it [1] Grab this [2] and put it in /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors. Restart the phone (reloading qpe wasn't enough to me) and it should work. [1] 563d5f4c781efe1a11680c6a055b409034b528ab [2] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/qtopia-ussd-support-phone-vendor.tar.gz -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Ok, I was right... The latest upgrade to phonevendor plugin in git blocked it [1] Grab this [2] and put it in /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors. Restart the phone (reloading qpe wasn't enough to me) and it should work. [1] 563d5f4c781efe1a11680c6a055b409034b528ab [2] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/qtopia-ussd-support-phone-ve ndor.tar.gz Thankyou, that works. Now beautiefy the code and send it to the qtopia people :-D be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Natanael Arndt wrote: Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Ok, I was right... The latest upgrade to phonevendor plugin in git blocked it [1] Grab this [2] and put it in /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors. Restart the phone (reloading qpe wasn't enough to me) and it should work. [1] 563d5f4c781efe1a11680c6a055b409034b528ab [2] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/qtopia-ussd-support-phone-ve ndor.tar.gz Thankyou, that works. Now beautiefy the code and send it to the qtopia people :-D Yes, but now the problem is that the quoted commit has to be reverted and the fix inside (needed for people with special chars in their SIM address book) should be readded in a such way. In ticket #1941 [3], there's another way to fix it but I guess that the result would be the same. So is there one with both the issues? Maybe we could test to find a solution. Here, I've created a faker contact with some special chars in the name (èàòìñø) but I didn't get any problem in reading it. [3] https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1941 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Yes, but now the problem is that the quoted commit has to be reverted and the fix inside (needed for people with special chars in their SIM address book) should be readded in a such way. In ticket #1941 [3], there's another way to fix it but I guess that the result would be the same. So is there one with both the issues? Maybe we could test to find a solution. Here, I've created a faker contact with some special chars in the name (èàòìñø) but I didn't get any problem in reading it. [3] https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1941 So, what is the exact problem now? I can't read any contact from my SIM-card anymore. I think this could be related to youre patch. But I can read the localy stored contacts on the phone. If it helps, I have also umlauts (äöü) in my contactlist on the SIM-card. be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
is this something happening to others? if I dial a string that starts with # or * (such as those to access phone carrier features) the dialer crashes and goes puff, smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
On 2008.09.17.10.49, andres wrote: | is this something happening to others? | if I dial a string that starts with # or * (such as those to access | phone carrier features) | the dialer crashes and goes puff, Yes, I have the same exact problem. I have to dial #999# to check the minutes on my prepaid card. I was thinking I'd learn how to just dial the modem directly... The FSO stack doesn't seem to like funny looking numbers either. That one might be easier to fix. --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
known bug: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1832 Tom R wrote: yes, im trying to access my voicemail inbox #123 and the dialer goes poof. tried in both 2008.8 and qtopia so i think its related to qpe -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/2008.8-default-dialer-crash-on---or-*-tp1095838p1096499.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2008 schrieb andres: is this something happening to others? if I dial a string that starts with # or * (such as those to access phone carrier features) the dialer crashes and goes puff, Yes I have the same problem. I need *100# and it just closes the dialer in 2008.8. On 2007.2 the phone called a friend, when i diealed *100# :-S be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Natanael Arndt wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2008 schrieb andres:
is this something happening to others?
if I dial a string that starts with # or * (such as those to access
phone carrier features)
the dialer crashes and goes puff,
Yes I have the same problem. I need *100# and it just closes the dialer in
2008.8.
On 2007.2 the phone called a friend, when i diealed *100# :-S
That is because that call is considered as a Service request (USSD) also
if it isn't. The qtopia code is wrong in this (since it filters these
calls if they start or end with one of these chars).
See below...
Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
yes, im trying to access my voicemail inbox #123
and the dialer goes poof.
tried in both 2008.8 and qtopia so i think its related to qpe
Well, yes it's related to Qpe, but those are not the same issue, also if
they're related to the same part of code.
If a number starts with * or # and ends with # (to be short) then that
is an USSD call and it is actually badly supported by Qtopia.
I've made a patch for it [1] and as you can see it works [2] :P, but I
had no time yet to attach it to the trac (ehm, also because the other
patches I've made to qtopia haven't been neither reviewed :|).
However, in this case the dialer has the right to close itself since
after sending that request to the provider, the phone has only to wait
the reply of the carrier that will be shown in a dialog.
Anyway... Waiting for the patch, if someone of you would try my changes
(that includes USSD support for pre-paid cards and working {*,#}xxx
numbers), I could post somewhere the binary files to be tested.
Just let me know!
Bye...
[1] http://3v1n0.net/openmoko/qtopia-x11-tangoized-dialer-USSD.png
[2] http://3v1n0.net/openmoko/qtopia-x11-tangoized-USSD-reply.png
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Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
I'd love to test a patched binary, but im not really in a hurry so knowing that the patch is already commited is still great news. thanks treviño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: I'd love to test a patched binary, but im not really in a hurry so knowing that the patch is already commited is still great news. thanks treviño Ok, you can test them extracting the content of this archive [1] in /opt/Qtopia/lib/ and restart qtopia (qpe). If this doesn't work please, dial the number and report what's written in logread. Here (where it works) for example I get (for USSD): AtChat : T : AT+CUSD=1,*123#,15 AtChat : F : OK AtChat : N : +CUSD: 0,Il credito e': 0.00 Euro.,15 [2] And for *,# calls (unknown number here): AtChat : T : ATD#123; AtChat : N : %CPI: 1,9,0,0,0,0,#123,129 But sometimes I got some strange errors. These have appeared only after the latest git updates (that's why I'm not using the HEAD as base), so if you get errors we'll try to go back to find the issue... However let me know how these libs works for you (I hope they will be accepted by your qtopia version; I'm using a version compiled with the toolchain here). BTW Do backups in any case... Bye! [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/qtopia-ussd-support-testlibs.tar.gz [2] I'm rich, eh?! :D -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
I attached your mails with patches and binary to the trac ticket. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1832 QA tagged the bug for 2008.9, I hope your patch makes it for the bugfix release. This looks like a RC bug to me. Finger crossed, Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: I've made a patch for it [1] and as you can see it works [2] :P, but I had no time yet to attach it to the trac (ehm, also because the other patches I've made to qtopia haven't been neither reviewed :|). Which were those? -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
