Re: Finger friendly browse keyboard
William Kenworthy schrieb: No, I mean remove both the other two keyboards so only terminal is left. Then the word space and switcher are redundant and they both can be removed saving space. My fingers are too fat to use either of those two, the dictionary is hopeless and they take forever to type a message as you are always trying to fix the mistakes they make, stroking the keyboard rarely works properly so you are continually trying to select/delete or whatever and failing. As the default always pops up first until you select terminal, its better to remove them altogether (and they always pop up first when writing an sms for example) Just change the kbd type of the terminal kbd from TERMINAL to ALPHA an the terminal kbd is your default one ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly browse keyboard
Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net writes: Hi all, Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I just could not resist making one myself. the result is here: http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html Nice, is there any way to remove the box that usually shows the words that are being typed at the top? Since no words are being typed, that'd be a nice way to save space, but I guess if it were easy to remove it you would have done so already. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly browse keyboard
John Sullivan wrote: Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net writes: Hi all, Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I just could not resist making one myself. the result is here: http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html Nice, is there any way to remove the box that usually shows the words that are being typed at the top? Since no words are being typed, that'd be a nice way to save space, but I guess if it were easy to remove it you would have done so already. The box and dictionary selection are not interesting with this keyboard as you describe. However, you need them because on the right you have the keyboard switcher which you always need. As far as I know at this moment, there is no way of hiding the first two and keeping the latter. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly browse keyboard
I would rather the space - the other two keyboards are pretty useless ... BillK On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 12:54 +0100, Pander wrote: John Sullivan wrote: Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net writes: Hi all, Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I just could not resist making one myself. the result is here: http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html Nice, is there any way to remove the box that usually shows the words that are being typed at the top? Since no words are being typed, that'd be a nice way to save space, but I guess if it were easy to remove it you would have done so already. The box and dictionary selection are not interesting with this keyboard as you describe. However, you need them because on the right you have the keyboard switcher which you always need. As far as I know at this moment, there is no way of hiding the first two and keeping the latter. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly browse keyboard
William Kenworthy schrieb: I would rather the space - the other two keyboards are pretty useless ... BillK On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 12:54 +0100, Pander wrote: John Sullivan wrote: Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net writes: Hi all, Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I just could not resist making one myself. the result is here: http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html Nice, is there any way to remove the box that usually shows the words that are being typed at the top? Since no words are being typed, that'd be a nice way to save space, but I guess if it were easy to remove it you would have done so already. The box and dictionary selection are not interesting with this keyboard as you describe. However, you need them because on the right you have the keyboard switcher which you always need. As far as I know at this moment, there is no way of hiding the first two and keeping the latter. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community you CAN use the space and don't need the kbd switcher since you can scroll upwards to switch the kbd. just edt the virtual kbd reloution (the relation between width an height) and you can add another row of keys. one thing you have to keep in mind: the name of the kbd MUST NOT make it appear firts in the list of kbds (e.g. rename the Default.kbd (or any other kbd that has teh correct height/widht relation) to Alpha.kbd so that it is firts in the list). if this is the case the illume kbd will not be resized and the additional row of keys will be available without occupying more of your precieous space. (i think this works because of the same bug, that prevents the illume kbd from resizing of used in landscape mode. all credits go to Michal Brzozowski (god i hope i spelled it correctly) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly browse keyboard
On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 18:49 +0100, Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote: William Kenworthy schrieb: I would rather the space - the other two keyboards are pretty useless ... BillK On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 12:54 +0100, Pander wrote: John Sullivan wrote: Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net writes: Hi all, Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I just could not resist making one myself. the result is here: http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html ... Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community you CAN use the space and don't need the kbd switcher since you can scroll upwards to switch the kbd. just edt the virtual kbd reloution (the relation between width an height) and you can add another row of keys. one thing you have to keep in mind: the name of the kbd MUST NOT make it appear firts in the list of kbds (e.g. rename the Default.kbd (or any other kbd that has teh correct height/widht relation) to Alpha.kbd so that it is firts in the list). if this is the case the illume kbd will not be resized and the additional row of keys will be available without occupying more of your precieous space. (i think this works because of the same bug, that prevents the illume kbd from resizing of used in landscape mode. all credits go to Michal Brzozowski (god i hope i spelled it correctly) No, I mean remove both the other two keyboards so only terminal is left. Then the word space and switcher are redundant and they both can be removed saving space. My fingers are too fat to use either of those two, the dictionary is hopeless and they take forever to type a message as you are always trying to fix the mistakes they make, stroking the keyboard rarely works properly so you are continually trying to select/delete or whatever and failing. As the default always pops up first until you select terminal, its better to remove them altogether (and they always pop up first when writing an sms for example) Others say it works, and I suppose it does for them, but to me its one of the worst parts of the freerunner interface and the first bit I disable by uninstalling numbers and default (or in the case of shr-unstable, just coping terminal over the top of each). Terminal has its own problems/annoyances (the animation encourages miss-clicks and takes up valuable cpu cycles - tried to find out how its done so it could be minimised to just a quick blink to tell the key has registered a press, but didnt find it - one day ... :) These tiny key keyboards can only be used by normal people using a stylus - what we really need for SMS is a large keyboard taking up much of the screen and only a tiny window for text (160 chars) - in fact thats what most other keyboardless phones seem to do, for good reasons. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Finger friendly browse keyboard
Hi all, Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I just could not resist making one myself. the result is here: http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html Note that the type is NUMERIC, let me know if another type better suites this keyboard. It is also referenced here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#List_of_illume_keyboards Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly browse keyboard
looks good, maybe one little comment: I would have have put ctrl as the lower left button when playing action games for example: arrows: move space: open/jump ctrl: shoot On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Hi all, Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I just could not resist making one myself. the result is here: http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html Note that the type is NUMERIC, let me know if another type better suites this keyboard. It is also referenced here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#List_of_illume_keyboards Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly browse keyboard
Yorick Moko wrote: looks good, maybe one little comment: I would have have put ctrl as the lower left button Then I'd have to put the TAB in the place where CTRL is now next to the ALT, which is a bit odd. Either way it is always a bit strange. when playing action games for example: arrows: move Its already like this, not? space: open/jump ctrl: shoot I have place for two extra 'fire' buttons as you can see. But I have to attach an Illume keyboard 'key'-command to them. If you can figure out what the joystick shoot/jump is. But usually it is the other way around, in the game you can configure your keys. So I could place a (left and right) shift/ctrl/alt key which can be used as shoot/jump. As I see it now, Illume has no left or right shift/ctrl/alt, and also no auto release for shift/ctrl/alt. See trac issue http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/228 For now, I will keep the browse keybaord as is. Thanks for your feedback. Pander On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Hi all, Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I just could not resist making one myself. the result is here: http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html Note that the type is NUMERIC, let me know if another type better suites this keyboard. It is also referenced here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#List_of_illume_keyboards Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
