Re: Getting rid of Android
Vasili Sviridov wrote: Not sure what has changed, but when I do dfu-util -l from both NOR and NAND uBoot i get this Found Runtime [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade and thats the only line in there. So i'm currently not even able to update the bootloader (as i hoped that'll allow me to see the rest of the partitions). Vasili You can't even update? That sounds pretty bad. If you get that from both NAN and NOR then you've got problems. I was going to suggest that maybe you follow the What if I borked my bootloader environment and don't get a prompt anymore? instructions here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader but if you get that from both then... Are you still running uboot or did you switch to the new thing? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p2081295.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Well, here's the situation. I can power up into NAND or NOR uBoot. Option to boot from SD is available to me. If i do screen /dev/ttyACM0 on the host machine I get the bootloader command prompt and can run those commands (e.g. i can see the partition lists for both NOR and NAND). So it's not a full brick yet. However after several previous reflash attempts i'm pretty sure that Android installation is corrupted, as I can no longer boot into it. There's still a possibility of booting from SD card into a regular moko environment (one of) and maybe flashing from there... At least I hope that it will work. If not - i'll be looking for a person with a debug board in Vancouver :D Vasili. Gothnet wrote: Vasili Sviridov wrote: Not sure what has changed, but when I do dfu-util -l from both NOR and NAND uBoot i get this Found Runtime [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade and thats the only line in there. So i'm currently not even able to update the bootloader (as i hoped that'll allow me to see the rest of the partitions). Vasili You can't even update? That sounds pretty bad. If you get that from both NAN and NOR then you've got problems. I was going to suggest that maybe you follow the What if I borked my bootloader environment and don't get a prompt anymore? instructions here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader but if you get that from both then... Are you still running uboot or did you switch to the new thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Well, if you can get sensible stuff out of u-boot then I suggest using the devirginator thing on the link I sent earlier to repare the uboot environmen. Then you should get back to a useful state. I used it to tweak the kernel partition size on the internal flash, so if (as I think you said before) you've got messed up partitions on the internal memory then it could well be the uboot environment that needs fixing. Can't hurt anyway, I wouldn't have thought. If the partition stuff is messed up then this should fix it and allow you to reflash with images as normal. Should fix your menu too, I also used it to fix the stuff that had been altered by the debian set up script. HTH Apologies if this gets to the list twice, my first attempt doesn't seem to have got through properly. Vasili Sviridov wrote: Well, here's the situation. I can power up into NAND or NOR uBoot. Option to boot from SD is available to me. If i do screen /dev/ttyACM0 on the host machine I get the bootloader command prompt and can run those commands (e.g. i can see the partition lists for both NOR and NAND). So it's not a full brick yet. However after several previous reflash attempts i'm pretty sure that Android installation is corrupted, as I can no longer boot into it. There's still a possibility of booting from SD card into a regular moko environment (one of) and maybe flashing from there... At least I hope that it will work. If not - i'll be looking for a person with a debug board in Vancouver :D Vasili. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p2089460.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Will it still work w/o debug board? All i got is the USB cable connection. Vasili Gothnet wrote: Well, if you can get sensible stuff out of u-boot then I suggest using the devirginator thing on the link I sent earlier to repare the uboot environmen. Then you should get back to a useful state. I used it to tweak the kernel partition size on the internal flash, so if (as I think you said before) you've got messed up partitions on the internal memory then it could well be the uboot environment that needs fixing. Can't hurt anyway, I wouldn't have thought. If the partition stuff is messed up then this should fix it and allow you to reflash with images as normal. Should fix your menu too, I also used it to fix the stuff that had been altered by the debian set up script. HTH Apologies if this gets to the list twice, my first attempt doesn't seem to have got through properly. Vasili Sviridov wrote: Well, here's the situation. I can power up into NAND or NOR uBoot. Option to boot from SD is available to me. If i do screen /dev/ttyACM0 on the host machine I get the bootloader command prompt and can run those commands (e.g. i can see the partition lists for both NOR and NAND). So it's not a full brick yet. However after several previous reflash attempts i'm pretty sure that Android installation is corrupted, as I can no longer boot into it. There's still a possibility of booting from SD card into a regular moko environment (one of) and maybe flashing from there... At least I hope that it will work. If not - i'll be looking for a person with a debug board in Vancouver :D Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Gothnet wrote: Vasili Sviridov wrote: Will it still work w/o debug board? All i got is the USB cable connection. Vasili yeah, me too :) Worked just fine. Follow the instructions on that page - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader#What_if_I_borked_my_bootloader_environment_and_don.27t_get_a_prompt_anymore.3F Apply a little common sense and edit some of the files if you're not trying to achieve a complete reset of the uboot env (though I think you are) and it should be. I'm not saying that this is definitely your problem, but it sounds like it to me, and I don't think it can actually hurt your phone right now either. Though if it is your partition table that's b0rked then you may want to edit the environment.in file too, I found it pretty easy to read. It would be nice for an actual OM dev or representative to chime in here and tell me if I'm barking up the wrong tree Have a play I guess. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p2089518.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Not sure what has changed, but when I do dfu-util -l from both NOR and NAND uBoot i get this Found Runtime [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade and thats the only line in there. So i'm currently not even able to update the bootloader (as i hoped that'll allow me to see the rest of the partitions). Vasili Flyin_bbb8 wrote: how about the nor uboot? same list? On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM, vsviri...@exceede.com mailto:vsviri...@exceede.com wrote: Yes, Android is flashed into the unit. SD Card contains 2 partitions as per Android requirements. The partitions i mention are showing up in dfu-util -l, which lists all the alternates available. (Normally uboot, kernel, rootfs, bootsplash, etc). But they all appear as UNKNOWN in the list. I cannot flash it using dfu-util even w/o the SD card present. Orlando-13 wrote: I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. Probably not actually, android (AFAICT) must be installed on the internal flash, not the SD, so content of the SD card is pretty irrelevant. I don't think I've ever tried to go back from android to another distro on my FR, so I can't help with the original question either. /I'm helping! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p1762810.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Actually I remember reflashing NAND uBoot at some point in time when I was installing Android, so I might restore that first... V. Flyin_bbb8 wrote: how about the nor uboot? same list? On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM, vsviri...@exceede.com mailto:vsviri...@exceede.com wrote: Yes, Android is flashed into the unit. SD Card contains 2 partitions as per Android requirements. The partitions i mention are showing up in dfu-util -l, which lists all the alternates available. (Normally uboot, kernel, rootfs, bootsplash, etc). But they all appear as UNKNOWN in the list. I cannot flash it using dfu-util even w/o the SD card present. Orlando-13 wrote: I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. Probably not actually, android (AFAICT) must be installed on the internal flash, not the SD, so content of the SD card is pretty irrelevant. I don't think I've ever tried to go back from android to another distro on my FR, so I can't help with the original question either. /I'm helping! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p1762810.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Well, I might be losing something, but... what happens if you press AUX + power? At least you have changed nor using a debubg board you should get a boot menu where you can choose to boot from the microsd card (you can change which one to use by pressing the aux button and select it with the power on one). Then you could boot from the microsd and rebuild your partitinons and get rid of Andrioid. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Vasili Sviridov escribió: Actually I remember reflashing NAND uBoot at some point in time when I was installing Android, so I might restore that first... V. Flyin_bbb8 wrote: how about the nor uboot? same list? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Kosa k...@piradio.org wrote: vsviri...@exceede.com escribió: Hello everyone, Is there a way to get rid of Android on my OpenMoko? For some reason I cannot re-flash anything anymore. I always get an error message from dfu-util, saying that the 'alternate rootfs unavailable' or something very similar. And when I do 'dfu-util -l' i get about 7 partitions, all of which are marked as UNKNOWN. You might want to try installing any other distro on the microsd and boot from it. Then you can use fdisk to remove those partitions and try again. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Thanks, Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- --- ing. Javier O. Ramírez Martínez Key fingerprint = CBFD AEC9 E7F9 C726 03BF 3D85 7B9E 47A7 EB84 70D4 http://linux.mty.itesm.mx/~oramirez http://picasaweb.google.com/javier.ramirez ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Orlando-13 wrote: I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. Probably not actually, android (AFAICT) must be installed on the internal flash, not the SD, so content of the SD card is pretty irrelevant. I don't think I've ever tried to go back from android to another distro on my FR, so I can't help with the original question either. /I'm helping! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p1762810.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Yes, Android is flashed into the unit. SD Card contains 2 partitions as per Android requirements. The partitions i mention are showing up in dfu-util -l, which lists all the alternates available. (Normally uboot, kernel, rootfs, bootsplash, etc). But they all appear as UNKNOWN in the list. I cannot flash it using dfu-util even w/o the SD card present. Orlando-13 wrote: I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. Probably not actually, android (AFAICT) must be installed on the internal flash, not the SD, so content of the SD card is pretty irrelevant. I don't think I've ever tried to go back from android to another distro on my FR, so I can't help with the original question either. /I'm helping! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p1762810.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
how about the nor uboot? same list? On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM, vsviri...@exceede.com wrote: Yes, Android is flashed into the unit. SD Card contains 2 partitions as per Android requirements. The partitions i mention are showing up in dfu-util -l, which lists all the alternates available. (Normally uboot, kernel, rootfs, bootsplash, etc). But they all appear as UNKNOWN in the list. I cannot flash it using dfu-util even w/o the SD card present. Orlando-13 wrote: I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. Probably not actually, android (AFAICT) must be installed on the internal flash, not the SD, so content of the SD card is pretty irrelevant. I don't think I've ever tried to go back from android to another distro on my FR, so I can't help with the original question either. /I'm helping! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p1762810.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Getting rid of Android
Hello everyone, Is there a way to get rid of Android on my OpenMoko? For some reason I cannot re-flash anything anymore. I always get an error message from dfu-util, saying that the 'alternate rootfs unavailable' or something very similar. And when I do 'dfu-util -l' i get about 7 partitions, all of which are marked as UNKNOWN. Thanks, Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
vsviri...@exceede.com escribió: Hello everyone, Is there a way to get rid of Android on my OpenMoko? For some reason I cannot re-flash anything anymore. I always get an error message from dfu-util, saying that the 'alternate rootfs unavailable' or something very similar. And when I do 'dfu-util -l' i get about 7 partitions, all of which are marked as UNKNOWN. You might want to try installing any other distro on the microsd and boot from it. Then you can use fdisk to remove those partitions and try again. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Thanks, Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
