Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix

2009-06-15 Thread Michele Renda
Tomas Riveros Schober ha scritto:
 Hello List,

 I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is 
 experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on 
 both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not 
   working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having 
 different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot).

   
Hello, yesterday, in a Buzz fix party in Milan, it happen something very
similar to this.
One Freerunner was fixed, but the mic was busted.

Luckily it was a test unit used for test by Eshopen.

Another point is that the fix was tried with a traditional solder, not
with a microscope soldier, so we think that this was the cause.

I suggest who want to try the fix to take a lot of care, and to search
for an specialist center. Thank again to Eshopen for its help to help us
in fixing our Openmoko.

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Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix

2009-06-15 Thread Rafael Campos
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Michele Rendamichele.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tomas Riveros Schober ha scritto:
 Hello List,

 I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is
 experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on
 both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not
   working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having
 different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot).


 Hello, yesterday, in a Buzz fix party in Milan, it happen something very
 similar to this.
 One Freerunner was fixed, but the mic was busted.
We had some of those at fix-party in Barcelona (first Fix party). As
you are doing the fix in a hurry, you could short-circuit some of the
small R's. But we didn't bork any Freerunner. LAter, on the lab, we
checked the phones and they get fixed, adn works perfectly.

Check the circuit diagram carefully and you see a short circuit (i'm sure).

 Luckily it was a test unit used for test by Eshopen.

 Another point is that the fix was tried with a traditional solder, not
 with a microscope soldier, so we think that this was the cause.

 I suggest who want to try the fix to take a lot of care, and to search
 for an specialist center. Thank again to Eshopen for its help to help us
 in fixing our Openmoko.

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Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix

2009-06-15 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Rafael Camposmeth...@gmail.com wrote:
 Check the circuit diagram carefully and you see a short circuit (i'm sure).

Last week, my buzz-fixed FR became un-buzzfixed again. Someone came
with a soldering iron and a steady hand to re-fix it.

During that operation, he made a bridge between de 2nd and 3rd patch
to the right of the 2 capacitors. He was able to get the tin out again
(no problem), but it appears that this sort of thing happens very
quickly...

Christ van Willegen

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Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix

2009-06-15 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
Thanks to everyone that answered.
I will ask my friend to re-check for shorts and see what he finds.


regards
Tom

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Microphone busted after buzz-fix

2009-06-14 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
Hello List,

I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is 
experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on 
both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not 
  working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having 
different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot).

Any suggestions on how to diagnose it correctly?
I already loaded the A7 state file (which works wonders on the other 
neo), tried different distros.

Is there any kind of warranty (i know there's not an official one) 
from openmoko in case i need to ship it back to taiwan or something?

Since I'm in Chile and no local distributor is available, I had to 
perform the fix unoficially.

Thanks for the time

Tom

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Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix

2009-06-14 Thread Paul Fertser
Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl writes:
 I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is 
 experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on 
 both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not 
   working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having 
 different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot).

Give your friend schematics and the non-working phone and ask him to
check circuits carefully. Most probably he left a short there that he
will simply remove after finding it.

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