Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Peter Harrison cheetah...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I would provide some of my experience with using solar power. My experience involves using a 12v panel. You can get 12v Hi folks, Another source for our part of the world is jaycar.com.auyou can select batteries and chargers/chargers and find a solar panel car charger. Also dc-dc converter many kinds, with prices. cheers, clare panels from all kinds of places. In order to step down 12v to the required 5v you will need an efficient dc converter: http://us.100y.com.tw/PNoInfo/21207.htm Do NOT use a 5v regulator as you will dump half the power directly into the regulator as heat. That is not only a waste of power but potentially a fire risk. From there you can get a connector to the NEO USB and simply wire in the power. I actually had a PhidgetServo board and wired the power directly into it. To get my NEO to charge I had to turn on the external charging and set to 500ma. The point here is that you will need 5v x 500ma = 2.5W in order to supply that kind of juice. This power is only available in full exposure. It also does not account for any conversion loss. I recommend using a 5W panel. Obviously if you can get a 6v or 5v panel you could use a basic regulator without much trouble. This is not a kind of panel you can carry around easily. Some 'chargers' on the market have such low surface area they have no realistic chance of supplying the kind of juice required for charging in a realistic time frame. Here is panel I'm using: http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/4a21d7f801e681262741c0a87f3b06ee/Product/View/O3345 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
I thought I would provide some of my experience with using solar power. My experience involves using a 12v panel. You can get 12v panels from all kinds of places. In order to step down 12v to the required 5v you will need an efficient dc converter: http://us.100y.com.tw/PNoInfo/21207.htm Do NOT use a 5v regulator as you will dump half the power directly into the regulator as heat. That is not only a waste of power but potentially a fire risk. From there you can get a connector to the NEO USB and simply wire in the power. I actually had a PhidgetServo board and wired the power directly into it. To get my NEO to charge I had to turn on the external charging and set to 500ma. The point here is that you will need 5v x 500ma = 2.5W in order to supply that kind of juice. This power is only available in full exposure. It also does not account for any conversion loss. I recommend using a 5W panel. Obviously if you can get a 6v or 5v panel you could use a basic regulator without much trouble. This is not a kind of panel you can carry around easily. Some 'chargers' on the market have such low surface area they have no realistic chance of supplying the kind of juice required for charging in a realistic time frame. Here is panel I'm using: http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/4a21d7f801e681262741c0a87f3b06ee/Product/View/O3345 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
samples of V3 and V4, along dynamo hub and other items are coming to Tuxbrain from Australia[1], They are more expensive but after the China fiasco, I hope the quality worth the effort. More info when they arrive [1]http://www.pedalpower.com.au/ 2009/5/6 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 23:33 +0100, George Brooke wrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009 13:19:53 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/5/5 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. or a hand-crank charger imo, this is a more reliable way of charging the battery - it'll work anywhere (in a building, underground, when it's raining), anytime (night) and is going to produce a bigger current than this size of solar panel does anyone know of any decent crank chargers that will output over usb? Some wind-up torches can charge mobile phones, I've emailed one place to see if they can tell me what power theirs can output but no reply yet. I think the theory might be the same. solar board charge internal battery, and then battery charge phone. crank output charge internal battery, and then battery charge phone. The question is how much mAh crank output and how much time it take to charge the internal battery. :) solar.george ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger samples arrived[was Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)]
After test all them, just one conclusion not worth the money. nor the effort to do a strong analisis, wiki updated with the comments http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Solar_chargers No one has minimum requirements to be really useful, and of course I no way want to include them on my catalogs If some one has any positive feedback from any other models from others brand please update the wiki or notify me or on the list. Best regards 2009/5/12 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: snip More seriously, what about making an announce email in a new thread (this thread of discussion is getting quite long), so that people can manifest their interest and propose some tests to be carried on the solar charger you have selected. snip Hi all, No much time to comment right now more comments later but at you disposal there is a wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Solar_chargers I will fill more on later too but there are loaded the quick and dirty pictures of the three samples of en-chance.com for your enjoy. Sumarizing: SC018 so simple than seems a toy. SC020 seems my gandma moneybag SC019 cool really cool More on later and I will start with use test tomorrow Regards -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Solar charger samples arrived[was Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)]
snip More seriously, what about making an announce email in a new thread (this thread of discussion is getting quite long), so that people can manifest their interest and propose some tests to be carried on the solar charger you have selected. snip Hi all, No much time to comment right now more comments later but at you disposal there is a wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Solar_chargers I will fill more on later too but there are loaded the quick and dirty pictures of the three samples of en-chance.com for your enjoy. Sumarizing: SC018 so simple than seems a toy. SC020 seems my gandma moneybag SC019 cool really cool More on later and I will start with use test tomorrow Regards -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
i would look at dealextreme.com there are many external battery packs which are much cheaper! i have http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9871 which really does not have 1mAh like it claims, but i can charge my freerunner about 1.5 to 2 times without problem and thats all i need. comes with mini-usb adapter and free shipping so its about: 14 Euros. There are many more on the website: http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.external%20battery You have to put freerunner to force fast charge with 500mA to load ... Greetings vale -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Solar-charger-%28was-Re%3A-News-Openmoko-Shop-Pulster%29-tp2708769p2791397.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
Nevertheless we will move forward with the solar chargers :), maybe some one wants to use the neo in the deep jungle :) 2009/5/5 vale va...@gmx.de: i would look at dealextreme.com there are many external battery packs which are much cheaper! i have http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9871 which really does not have 1mAh like it claims, but i can charge my freerunner about 1.5 to 2 times without problem and thats all i need. comes with mini-usb adapter and free shipping so its about: 14 Euros. There are many more on the website: http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.external%20battery You have to put freerunner to force fast charge with 500mA to load ... Greetings vale -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Solar-charger-%28was-Re%3A-News-Openmoko-Shop-Pulster%29-tp2708769p2791397.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: Nevertheless we will move forward with the solar chargers :), maybe some one wants to use the neo in the deep jungle :) Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. More seriously, what about making an announce email in a new thread (this thread of discussion is getting quite long), so that people can manifest their interest and propose some tests to be carried on the solar charger you have selected. I'm really glad we are going forward on this! Chris 2009/5/5 vale va...@gmx.de: i would look at dealextreme.com there are many external battery packs which are much cheaper! i have http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9871 which really does not have 1mAh like it claims, but i can charge my freerunner about 1.5 to 2 times without problem and thats all i need. comes with mini-usb adapter and free shipping so its about: 14 Euros. There are many more on the website: http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.external%20battery You have to put freerunner to force fast charge with 500mA to load ... Greetings vale -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Solar-charger-%28was-Re%3A-News-Openmoko-Shop-Pulster%29-tp2708769p2791397.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
2009/5/5 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. or a hand-crank charger imo, this is a more reliable way of charging the battery - it'll work anywhere (in a building, underground, when it's raining), anytime (night) and is going to produce a bigger current than this size of solar panel does anyone know of any decent crank chargers that will output over usb? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:35 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: latest news from factory. YL-S01: 26.47 USD 2400mAh/3.7V YL-S02: 20.59 USD 1800mAh/3.7V YL-S03: 10.00 USD 1350mAH/3.7V Hi Daniel, I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last holidays (3 weeks in Iceland, by bike), and i can tell you that they are not suitable for smartphone. I couldn't keep my Nokia N95/8GB charged. When they say that you can charge your solar charger with sun light in 8/12H, it means actually 8/12h exposed under the sun light at its zenith, on the equator of the earth! By experience, i can tell you that you will need _at least_ two sunny days to get it charged properly (during which you took care of orienting the charger as the sun moves). Thanks for you info. And it's very useful. I found that YB-E5008 has only 3.6V/1100mAH. http://y-toshenzhentech.itm.com.cn/532951/solar-charge-yb-e5008-for-mobile-phone-mp34.htm Well, I have to re-check it with factory before I buy one :) You have to be aware of these constraints as well: - You can't charge your phone while you charge the charger itself YL-S** series can charge your phone when the charger is charged with solar energy board :) - If the charger is not fully charge (the light is not green), it won't charge your phone, _at all_! Humm, I have checked with factory. LED of YL-S** series only indicates how much battery is left. And even it shows red, it can still charge the FR. 70%-100%Green 30%-70% Orange 0%-30% red Of course, I think we had better to test it. And I think you are right the higher capacity the better :) As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery). On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed earlier, i would be only interested in 2 of them:, the SC019 and the SC020, mainly because these are the only ones which has internal battery with a capacity = 3000Ah Yeah, I have checked with them again. They have larger capacity 3.0/3.5/4.0Ah But the price is a little bit higher. :) Regards, Chris -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:03 +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: You can suggest what test do you like to be performed and I will publish the results on that wiki. Excellent! A link is appreciated here. Thanks So the due the other YL series doesn't has more than 2400mAh They have larger capacity. 3.0/3.5/4.0 price is a little bit higher. and to avoid more shipping/customs costs (really expesive from china). Humm I'm in China. Seems good for me to buy one :) I think does't worth the effort to try to buy samples from them. I'll try to see what I can do. But I don't know how to test if I got one. :( I will keep you informed about the progress of the plan :) -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
Daniel.Li wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:35 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: latest news from factory. YL-S01: 26.47 USD 2400mAh/3.7V YL-S02: 20.59 USD 1800mAh/3.7V YL-S03: 10.00 USD 1350mAH/3.7V Hi Daniel, I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last holidays (3 weeks in Iceland, by bike), and i can tell you that they are not suitable for smartphone. I couldn't keep my Nokia N95/8GB charged. When they say that you can charge your solar charger with sun light in 8/12H, it means actually 8/12h exposed under the sun light at its zenith, on the equator of the earth! By experience, i can tell you that you will need _at least_ two sunny days to get it charged properly (during which you took care of orienting the charger as the sun moves). Thanks for you info. And it's very useful. I found that YB-E5008 has only 3.6V/1100mAH. http://y-toshenzhentech.itm.com.cn/532951/solar-charge-yb-e5008-for-mobile-phone-mp34.htm Actually, i've looked inside my charger, and the battery is definitely a 2.1Ah. It looks like different manufacturer use same name for _almost_ the same device, yeah, almost... Well, I have to re-check it with factory before I buy one :) You have to be aware of these constraints as well: - You can't charge your phone while you charge the charger itself YL-S** series can charge your phone when the charger is charged with solar energy board :) - If the charger is not fully charge (the light is not green), it won't charge your phone, _at all_! Humm, I have checked with factory. LED of YL-S** series only indicates how much battery is left. And even it shows red, it can still charge the FR. Yeah, with mine i couldn't charge a N95, to tell you the truth i was very disappointed with this charger... 70%-100% Green 30%-70% Orange 0%-30%red Of course, I think we had better to test it. And I think you are right the higher capacity the better :) As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery). On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed earlier, i would be only interested in 2 of them:, the SC019 and the SC020, mainly because these are the only ones which has internal battery with a capacity = 3000Ah Yeah, I have checked with them again. They have larger capacity 3.0/3.5/4.0Ah wow, 4Ah, do you have any links? Chris But the price is a little bit higher. :) Regards, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
(Very very very)³ * (very+infinity) nice thing!!! :D That was what I was hoping for: committed merchants in touch with the community! I hope you will provide some of them for sale soon. cheers Matthias David Reyes Samblas Martinez schrieb: Christoph and I were talking about this and agree with Christian we must think on this devices more as auxiliary batteries with a plus than solar chargers, so the higher capacity the better. We are interested in offer this in our shops so we will proceed the following way, as we do with the Slim BT Keyboard, but this time even more open and community driven. I will order a sample of the following models from en-hancing.com to test them and put the results on a wiki page along with some pictures of them on the field. SC019 3000mAh coolrought the more expensive SC020 3600mAh the highest capacity but seems slightly weaker than sc019 SC018 2600mAh only one solar panel but with higher battery than SC021 and twice cheaper, if it has a mini usb adaptor can be a better choice for cheaper option SC021 is only 2000mAh is just a little bit cheaper than SC019/20 options You can suggest what test do you like to be performed and I will publish the results on that wiki. After that test we(community included in that we) can disscuss what model fits most of all and I will proceed with an order to have stock in our shops. Please be aware than final price will be higher than we have disscused here, after some quick maths the SC019/20 model will be about 69EUR , SC018 about 39EUR, the SC021 about 59EUR(too much for a 2000mAh battery IMHO) those prices are just to orientate, custom fees and Euro/dollar equivalence when the order is finally made are really hard to calculate(near a lottery really) is just to you have an idea. So the due the other YL series doesn't has more than 2400mAh and to avoid more shipping/customs costs (really expesive from china). I think does't worth the effort to try to buy samples from them. I will keep you informed about the progress of the plan :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 13:19:53 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/5/5 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. or a hand-crank charger imo, this is a more reliable way of charging the battery - it'll work anywhere (in a building, underground, when it's raining), anytime (night) and is going to produce a bigger current than this size of solar panel does anyone know of any decent crank chargers that will output over usb? Some wind-up torches can charge mobile phones, I've emailed one place to see if they can tell me what power theirs can output but no reply yet. solar.george signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 18:13 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery). On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed earlier, i would be only interested in 2 of them:, the SC019 and the SC020, mainly because these are the only ones which has internal battery with a capacity = 3000Ah Yeah, I have checked with them again. They have larger capacity 3.0/3.5/4.0A wow, 4Ah, do you have any links? They told me that they have 3.0/3.5 samples. And they can change to 4 Ah battery, easily. The mechanical design is the same. I'm afraid they didn't have web page update. I'll keep contacting with them for price/spec, etc. If there is any news, I'll keep the thread update. Chris -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 23:33 +0100, George Brooke wrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009 13:19:53 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/5/5 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. or a hand-crank charger imo, this is a more reliable way of charging the battery - it'll work anywhere (in a building, underground, when it's raining), anytime (night) and is going to produce a bigger current than this size of solar panel does anyone know of any decent crank chargers that will output over usb? Some wind-up torches can charge mobile phones, I've emailed one place to see if they can tell me what power theirs can output but no reply yet. I think the theory might be the same. solar board charge internal battery, and then battery charge phone. crank output charge internal battery, and then battery charge phone. The question is how much mAh crank output and how much time it take to charge the internal battery. :) solar.george ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
matthias wrote: The SC019 seems the best choice to me: Rugged metal casing sounds really great. But the Sc021 is good as well, if getting them depends on a group-order. I could live with the SC019 as well. I hope someone's keeping a scorelist. :-) Paul Adrian Matter schrieb: Hello, I'm interested as well in anThe SC021. Adrian those are pritty awesome Definitely! I wonder what one of those would cost including shipping to the Netherlands. The SC021 looks like a sweet deal. Paul -- A life lived in chaos is an impossibility... -Madeleine L'Engle http://www.nlpagan.net MHC - Mandriva 2009.0, Ubuntu 9.04 Netbook Remix (Before printing this mail: consider the environment!) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 08:42 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: :) Humm... I think I'd better let them to make a bid for small quantity. :D YL-S03 High solar energy convert efficiency: over than 16% Solar energy board: 5.5V/80mA Dimension: 95×43×11.5mm High capacity build in battery: 1350mAH/3.7V \ Output voltage: DC 5.5±0.2V Input voltage: DC 5.0-5.5V Output current: 700mA max Input current: 800mA max Weight: about 55g charging time: about 3.5 hours (by computer) about 15-20hours(by sunlight) Running time: about 1.1hours (discharging in max.700mA) -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:32 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 08:42 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: :) Humm... I think I'd better let them to make a bid for small quantity. :D Sorry, I slipped. latest news from factory. YL-S01: 26.47 USD YL-S02: 20.59 USD YL-S03: 10.00 USD YL-S01 High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon convert efficiency is over than 16% Solar energy board：DC5.0V/300mA Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery: 2400mAh/3.7V Input Voltage:DC5.0V-5.5V Input current: 800mA Max. Output Voltage: 5.5V,8.4V Output current: 700mA Max. Dimension: 138 mm×79mm×25 mm Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W charging time: about 6hours (by computer) about 8-12hours(by sunlight) Running time: about 2hours (discharging in 700mA) YL-S02 High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon convert efficiency is over than 16% Solar energy board：DC5.0V/300mA Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery：1800mAh/3.7V Input Voltage：DC5.0V-5.5V Input current: 800mA Max. Output Voltage:DC5.5V±0.2V(unload) Output current: 700mA Max. Dimension：138 mm×79mm×25 mm Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W charging time: about 4.5 hours (by computer) about 6-10hours(by sunlight) Running time: about1.6hours (discharging in 700mA) YL-S03 High solar energy convert efficiency: over than 16% Solar energy board: 5.5V/80mA Dimension: 95×43×11.5mm High capacity build in battery: 1350mAH/3.7V \ Output voltage: DC 5.5±0.2V Input voltage: DC 5.0-5.5V Output current: 700mA max Input current: 800mA max Weight: about 55g charging time: about 3.5 hours (by computer) about 15-20hours(by sunlight) Running time: about 1.1hours (discharging in max.700mA) -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
Daniel.Li wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:32 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 08:42 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: :) Humm... I think I'd better let them to make a bid for small quantity. :D Sorry, I slipped. latest news from factory. YL-S01: 26.47 USD YL-S02: 20.59 USD YL-S03: 10.00 USD Hi Daniel, I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last holidays (3 weeks in Iceland, by bike), and i can tell you that they are not suitable for smartphone. I couldn't keep my Nokia N95/8GB charged. When they say that you can charge your solar charger with sun light in 8/12H, it means actually 8/12h exposed under the sun light at its zenith, on the equator of the earth! By experience, i can tell you that you will need _at least_ two sunny days to get it charged properly (during which you took care of orienting the charger as the sun moves). You have to be aware of these constraints as well: - You can't charge your phone while you charge the charger itself - If the charger is not fully charge (the light is not green), it won't charge your phone, _at all_! As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery). On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed earlier, i would be only interested in 2 of them:, the SC019 and the SC020, mainly because these are the only ones which has internal battery with a capacity = 3000Ah Regards, Chris YL-S01 High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon convert efficiency is over than 16% Solar energy board：DC5.0V/300mA Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery: 2400mAh/3.7V Input Voltage:DC5.0V-5.5V Input current: 800mA Max. Output Voltage: 5.5V,8.4V Output current: 700mA Max. Dimension: 138 mm×79mm×25 mm Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W charging time: about 6hours (by computer) about 8-12hours(by sunlight) Running time: about 2hours (discharging in 700mA) YL-S02 High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon convert efficiency is over than 16% Solar energy board：DC5.0V/300mA Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery：1800mAh/3.7V Input Voltage：DC5.0V-5.5V Input current: 800mA Max. Output Voltage:DC5.5V±0.2V(unload) Output current: 700mA Max. Dimension：138 mm×79mm×25 mm Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W charging time: about 4.5 hours (by computer) about 6-10hours(by sunlight) Running time: about1.6hours (discharging in 700mA) YL-S03 High solar energy convert efficiency: over than 16% Solar energy board: 5.5V/80mA Dimension: 95×43×11.5mm High capacity build in battery: 1350mAH/3.7V \ Output voltage: DC 5.5±0.2V Input voltage: DC 5.0-5.5V Output current: 700mA max Input current: 800mA max Weight: about 55g charging time: about 3.5 hours (by computer) about 15-20hours(by sunlight) Running time: about 1.1hours (discharging in max.700mA) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Christoph and I were talking about this and agree with Christian we must think on this devices more as auxiliary batteries with a plus than solar chargers, so the higher capacity the better. We are interested in offer this in our shops so we will proceed the following way, as we do with the Slim BT Keyboard, but this time even more open and community driven. I will order a sample of the following models from en-hancing.com to test them and put the results on a wiki page along with some pictures of them on the field. SC019 3000mAh coolrought the more expensive SC020 3600mAh the highest capacity but seems slightly weaker than sc019 SC018 2600mAh only one solar panel but with higher battery than SC021 and twice cheaper, if it has a mini usb adaptor can be a better choice for cheaper option SC021 is only 2000mAh is just a little bit cheaper than SC019/20 options You can suggest what test do you like to be performed and I will publish the results on that wiki. After that test we(community included in that we) can disscuss what model fits most of all and I will proceed with an order to have stock in our shops. Please be aware than final price will be higher than we have disscused here, after some quick maths the SC019/20 model will be about 69EUR , SC018 about 39EUR, the SC021 about 59EUR(too much for a 2000mAh battery IMHO) those prices are just to orientate, custom fees and Euro/dollar equivalence when the order is finally made are really hard to calculate(near a lottery really) is just to you have an idea. So the due the other YL series doesn't has more than 2400mAh and to avoid more shipping/customs costs (really expesive from china). I think does't worth the effort to try to buy samples from them. I will keep you informed about the progress of the plan :) -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! 2009/5/4 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Daniel.Li wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:32 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 08:42 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: :) Humm... I think I'd better let them to make a bid for small quantity. :D Sorry, I slipped. latest news from factory. YL-S01: 26.47 USD YL-S02: 20.59 USD YL-S03: 10.00 USD Hi Daniel, I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last holidays (3 weeks in Iceland, by bike), and i can tell you that they are not suitable for smartphone. I couldn't keep my Nokia N95/8GB charged. When they say that you can charge your solar charger with sun light in 8/12H, it means actually 8/12h exposed under the sun light at its zenith, on the equator of the earth! By experience, i can tell you that you will need _at least_ two sunny days to get it charged properly (during which you took care of orienting the charger as the sun moves). You have to be aware of these constraints as well: - You can't charge your phone while you charge the charger itself - If the charger is not fully charge (the light is not green), it won't charge your phone, _at all_! As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery). On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed earlier, i would be only interested in 2 of them:, the SC019 and the SC020, mainly because these are the only ones which has internal battery with a capacity = 3000Ah Regards, Chris YL-S01 High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon convert efficiency is over than 16% Solar energy board：DC5.0V/300mA Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery: 2400mAh/3.7V Input Voltage:DC5.0V-5.5V Input current: 800mA Max. Output Voltage: 5.5V,8.4V Output current: 700mA Max. Dimension: 138 mm×79mm×25 mm Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W charging time: about 6hours (by computer) about 8-12hours(by sunlight) Running time: about 2hours (discharging in 700mA) YL-S02 High solar energy of Single crystal silicon or polycrystalline silicon convert efficiency is over than 16% Solar energy board：DC5.0V/300mA Built-in rechargeable lithium polymer battery：1800mAh/3.7V Input Voltage：DC5.0V-5.5V Input current: 800mA Max. Output Voltage:DC5.5V±0.2V(unload) Output current: 700mA Max. Dimension：138 mm×79mm×25 mm Peak power supplied by photocell:1.5 W charging time: about 4.5 hours (by computer) about 6-10hours(by sunlight) Running time: about1.6hours (discharging in 700mA) YL-S03 High solar energy convert efficiency: over than 16% Solar energy board: 5.5V/80mA Dimension: 95×43×11.5mm High capacity build in battery: 1350mAH/3.7V \ Output voltage: DC 5.5±0.2V Input voltage: DC 5.0-5.5V Output current: 700mA max Input current: 800mA max Weight: about 55g charging time: about 3.5 hours (by computer)
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
Konstantin wrote: matthias schrieb: If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( I'd really like to buy one! Wouldn't it be great? An open handy powered with free and open energy!!! Damn, I'd like to buy 2 or 3! Same for me, i'd like to buy at least two. Chris Please, get them! I'm surely not the only one who would REALLY like to have such a thing! Am I? For the sake of statistics: I definitely want one, too! :D Cheers Matthias Regards, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Christian Gagneraud wrote: Konstantin wrote: matthias schrieb: If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( I'd really like to buy one! Wouldn't it be great? An open handy powered with free and open energy!!! Damn, I'd like to buy 2 or 3! Same for me, i'd like to buy at least two. I've got a quote for the SC019, SC020 and SC021, minimum order quantity is 50: | SC019 | SC020 | SC021 --+-+--+-- price(USD)| 35.88 | 34.00 | 25.63 battery | 3.0Ah | 3.6Ah | 2.0Ah http://www.en-hancing.com/productDetail.php?id=78 http://www.en-hancing.com/productDetail.php?id=79 http://www.en-hancing.com/productDetail.php?id=80 Regards, Chris Chris Please, get them! I'm surely not the only one who would REALLY like to have such a thing! Am I? For the sake of statistics: I definitely want one, too! :D Cheers Matthias Regards, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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those are pritty awesome On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie wrote: Christian Gagneraud wrote: Konstantin wrote: matthias schrieb: If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( I'd really like to buy one! Wouldn't it be great? An open handy powered with free and open energy!!! Damn, I'd like to buy 2 or 3! Same for me, i'd like to buy at least two. I've got a quote for the SC019, SC020 and SC021, minimum order quantity is 50: | SC019 | SC020 | SC021 --+-+--+-- price(USD)| 35.88 | 34.00 | 25.63 battery | 3.0Ah | 3.6Ah | 2.0Ah http://www.en-hancing.com/productDetail.php?id=78 http://www.en-hancing.com/productDetail.php?id=79 http://www.en-hancing.com/productDetail.php?id=80 Regards, Chris Chris Please, get them! I'm surely not the only one who would REALLY like to have such a thing! Am I? For the sake of statistics: I definitely want one, too! :D Cheers Matthias Regards, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hello, I'm interested as well in anThe SC021. Adrian Paul schrieb: jeremy jozwik wrote: those are pritty awesome Definitely! I wonder what one of those would cost including shipping to the Netherlands. The SC021 looks like a sweet deal. Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - - - - A - B - S - E - N - D - E - R - : - - - - Adrian Matter-Cottini Badweg 25 CH-5040 Schöftland Fon:++41 (0)62 721 03 14 / ++41 (0)32 512 94 85 [VoIP] Mobile: ++41 (0)76 542 18 71 Email: mailto:mat...@abmaco.info ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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The SC019 seems the best choice to me: Rugged metal casing sounds really great. But the Sc021 is good as well, if getting them depends on a group-order. Matthias Adrian Matter schrieb: Hello, I'm interested as well in anThe SC021. Adrian Paul schrieb: jeremy jozwik wrote: those are pritty awesome Definitely! I wonder what one of those would cost including shipping to the Netherlands. The SC021 looks like a sweet deal. Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, matthias matthiasfels...@web.de wrote: The SC019 seems the best choice to me: Rugged metal casing sounds really great. And magnetic case closing. Pretty sweet. Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( I'd really like to buy one! Wouldn't it be great? An open handy powered with free and open energy!!! Damn, I'd like to buy 2 or 3! Please, get them! I'm surely not the only one who would REALLY like to have such a thing! Am I? Cheers Matthias Daniel.Li schrieb: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 15:37 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:58 +0200, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: Daniel.Li a écrit : On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please notify the mailing list, other people could be interested (hum.. like me for example! :p) Well, I have found them. But they haven't give me the price. they keep asking me how many I would like to order. and you keep answering them it depends of the price ??? :) price depends on quantity. I just wanna buy one, myself. But as a factory, they might be *NOT* interested in retail :( But I don't know if there is still anyone interested in it. Or there is any other device available to buy. I've read somewhere that the minimum quantity was 1000 pieces. That's why i proposed to Christoph to add this to his shop. Humm... I'll keep contact with factory. Hope that I can get one. If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( Chris ../.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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matthias schrieb: If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( I'd really like to buy one! Wouldn't it be great? An open handy powered with free and open energy!!! Damn, I'd like to buy 2 or 3! Please, get them! I'm surely not the only one who would REALLY like to have such a thing! Am I? For the sake of statistics: I definitely want one, too! :D Cheers Matthias Regards, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Fr 24. April 2009 schrieb Timo Jyrinki: 2009/4/24 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: The batteries ran out very quickly. Sounds somewhat familiar. The third set of batteries didn't work well for me. conduction seems rather bad, perhaps this is fixable by installing some actual wires instead of relying on the casing. Maybe we could get a bigP pen fix rework SOP? Take care the buttons aren't pressed when carrying the pen in pocket. Otherwise it seemed to me at least 10min laser without getting dim are possible. Maybe longer. No bigP ;-) /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please notify the mailing list, other people could be interested (hum.. like me for example! :p) Well, I have found them. But they haven't give me the price. they keep asking me how many I would like to order. I don't know if there is anyone interested in it. Chris On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:49 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Hi Christoph, What about adding this product to your shop: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/205706002/Fashionable_solar_charger.html This is a solar charger with internal 2800mAh battery that can output up to 1A. So it can be used to power *AND* charge a Freerunner. Didn't find any retail reseller for this exact model... Chris Christoph Pulster wrote: Our price of Freerunner GTA02 is 249 eur. Buying two units its 229 eur. I like to support two-person-communities AKA Openmoko-friends. Second we add a small english booklet to each order for free. http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/medium/handbuch-engl.jpg Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg have fun, Chris Openmoko Shop www.pulster.eu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Daniel.Li a écrit : On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please notify the mailing list, other people could be interested (hum.. like me for example! :p) Well, I have found them. But they haven't give me the price. they keep asking me how many I would like to order. and you keep answering them it depends of the price ??? ../.. -- - Erwan - ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:58 +0200, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: Daniel.Li a écrit : On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please notify the mailing list, other people could be interested (hum.. like me for example! :p) Well, I have found them. But they haven't give me the price. they keep asking me how many I would like to order. and you keep answering them it depends of the price ??? :) price depends on quantity. I just wanna buy one, myself. But as a factory, they might be *NOT* interested in retail :( But I don't know if there is still anyone interested in it. Or there is any other device available to buy. ../.. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:58 +0200, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: Daniel.Li a écrit : On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please notify the mailing list, other people could be interested (hum.. like me for example! :p) Well, I have found them. But they haven't give me the price. they keep asking me how many I would like to order. and you keep answering them it depends of the price ??? :) price depends on quantity. I just wanna buy one, myself. But as a factory, they might be *NOT* interested in retail :( But I don't know if there is still anyone interested in it. Or there is any other device available to buy. I've read somewhere that the minimum quantity was 1000 pieces. That's why i proposed to Christoph to add this to his shop. Chris ../.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 15:37 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:58 +0200, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: Daniel.Li a écrit : On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please notify the mailing list, other people could be interested (hum.. like me for example! :p) Well, I have found them. But they haven't give me the price. they keep asking me how many I would like to order. and you keep answering them it depends of the price ??? :) price depends on quantity. I just wanna buy one, myself. But as a factory, they might be *NOT* interested in retail :( But I don't know if there is still anyone interested in it. Or there is any other device available to buy. I've read somewhere that the minimum quantity was 1000 pieces. That's why i proposed to Christoph to add this to his shop. Humm... I'll keep contact with factory. Hope that I can get one. If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( Chris ../.. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
I have send a email to www.pedalpower.com.au, to know their conditions on their products. They also have solar chargers, I will keep you informed if there is any news 2009/4/30 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 15:37 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:58 +0200, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: Daniel.Li a écrit : On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please notify the mailing list, other people could be interested (hum.. like me for example! :p) Well, I have found them. But they haven't give me the price. they keep asking me how many I would like to order. and you keep answering them it depends of the price ??? :) price depends on quantity. I just wanna buy one, myself. But as a factory, they might be *NOT* interested in retail :( But I don't know if there is still anyone interested in it. Or there is any other device available to buy. I've read somewhere that the minimum quantity was 1000 pieces. That's why i proposed to Christoph to add this to his shop. Humm... I'll keep contact with factory. Hope that I can get one. If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( Chris ../.. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 17:06 +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: I have send a email to www.pedalpower.com.au, to know their conditions on their products. They also have solar chargers, I will keep you informed if there is any news Humm... really good news. Thanks David :) I'll also update it if I have any news from factory. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)
Hi Christoph, What about adding this product to your shop: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/205706002/Fashionable_solar_charger.html This is a solar charger with internal 2800mAh battery that can output up to 1A. So it can be used to power *AND* charge a Freerunner. Didn't find any retail reseller for this exact model... Chris Christoph Pulster wrote: Our price of Freerunner GTA02 is 249 eur. Buying two units its 229 eur. I like to support two-person-communities AKA Openmoko-friends. Second we add a small english booklet to each order for free. http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/medium/handbuch-engl.jpg Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg have fun, Chris Openmoko Shop www.pulster.eu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:49 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Hi Christoph, What about adding this product to your shop: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/205706002/Fashionable_solar_charger.html This is a solar charger with internal 2800mAh battery that can output up to 1A. So it can be used to power *AND* charge a Freerunner. Didn't find any retail reseller for this exact model... Chris Christoph Pulster wrote: Our price of Freerunner GTA02 is 249 eur. Buying two units its 229 eur. I like to support two-person-communities AKA Openmoko-friends. Second we add a small english booklet to each order for free. http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/medium/handbuch-engl.jpg Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg have fun, Chris Openmoko Shop www.pulster.eu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please notify the mailing list, other people could be interested (hum.. like me for example! :p) Chris On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:49 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Hi Christoph, What about adding this product to your shop: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/205706002/Fashionable_solar_charger.html This is a solar charger with internal 2800mAh battery that can output up to 1A. So it can be used to power *AND* charge a Freerunner. Didn't find any retail reseller for this exact model... Chris Christoph Pulster wrote: Our price of Freerunner GTA02 is 249 eur. Buying two units its 229 eur. I like to support two-person-communities AKA Openmoko-friends. Second we add a small english booklet to each order for free. http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/medium/handbuch-engl.jpg Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg have fun, Chris Openmoko Shop www.pulster.eu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please notify the mailing list, other people could be interested (hum.. like me for example! :p) Well, I think I know where they are. Shenzhen Topband Electronics and Technology Co., Ltd. City: shenzhen Province/State: Guangdong Country/Region : China I have left a message for this panel. Maybe, I'll get an update tomorrow! You can also contact them directly with following link http://topbandbattery.en.alibaba.com/ Chris On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:49 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Hi Christoph, What about adding this product to your shop: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/205706002/Fashionable_solar_charger.html This is a solar charger with internal 2800mAh battery that can output up to 1A. So it can be used to power *AND* charge a Freerunner. Didn't find any retail reseller for this exact model... Chris Christoph Pulster wrote: Our price of Freerunner GTA02 is 249 eur. Buying two units its 229 eur. I like to support two-person-communities AKA Openmoko-friends. Second we add a small english booklet to each order for free. http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/medium/handbuch-engl.jpg Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg have fun, Chris Openmoko Shop www.pulster.eu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Christoph Pulster wrote: Our price of Freerunner GTA02 is 249 eur. Buying two units its 229 eur. I like to support two-person-communities AKA Openmoko-friends. Second we add a small english booklet to each order for free. http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/medium/handbuch-engl.jpg Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg I have had two of these pens and for both the laser pointer and the LED were most of the time dimmed. This was probably because of bad conduction with the batteries. If I unscrew the pen they would sometimes light up at full power, when pressing the buttons. The idea is very good but the quality guarantee is, in my opinion, not so high. Feel free to do with this feedback as you please. Perhaps a poll would give a more objective insight in the quality of these devices. have fun, Chris Openmoko Shop www.pulster.eu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg I have had two of these pens and for both the laser pointer and the LED were most of the time dimmed. This was probably because of bad conduction with the batteries. If I unscrew the pen they would sometimes light up at full power, when pressing the buttons. The idea is very good but the quality guarantee is, in my opinion, not so high. Feel free to do with this feedback as you please. Perhaps a poll would give a more objective insight in the quality of these devices. The pen i recieved from pulster works very nicely. Actually, its the only thing i recieved when i ordered a freerunner + accesoires that Just Works. :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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tomas nackaerts wrote: Besides you can add a free laserpen to any order: http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/laserpen-1.jpg I have had two of these pens and for both the laser pointer and the LED were most of the time dimmed. This was probably because of bad conduction with the batteries. If I unscrew the pen they would sometimes light up at full power, when pressing the buttons. The idea is very good but the quality guarantee is, in my opinion, not so high. Feel free to do with this feedback as you please. Perhaps a poll would give a more objective insight in the quality of these devices. The pen i recieved from pulster works very nicely. Actually, its the only thing i recieved when i ordered a freerunner + accesoires that Just Works. :-) The pen just worked when I got it. Looks good, nice design. The batteries ran out very quickly. Bought new ones, they ran out very quickly. I guess the laser can drain the batteries in a minute or two, so one can't really use it much for pointing. Do a laser need that much power, or is it just a simple design that lacks current limiting? The third set of batteries didn't work well for me. conduction seems rather bad, perhaps this is fixable by installing some actual wires instead of relying on the casing. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2009/4/24 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: The batteries ran out very quickly. Sounds somewhat familiar. The third set of batteries didn't work well for me. conduction seems rather bad, perhaps this is fixable by installing some actual wires instead of relying on the casing. Maybe we could get a bigP pen fix rework SOP? -Timo (sorry, Friday) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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LOL 2009/4/24 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: 2009/4/24 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: The batteries ran out very quickly. Sounds somewhat familiar. The third set of batteries didn't work well for me. conduction seems rather bad, perhaps this is fixable by installing some actual wires instead of relying on the casing. Maybe we could get a bigP pen fix rework SOP? -Timo (sorry, Friday) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
