Re: Car charger to GTA02
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. Thanks... Should be that on the ID pin? We need a better search on the wiki Maybe also a small article with photos (as example) of a reworked charger (I figure that some opnemoko developers have already done that :P). Guys, I guess http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger may be the right place to add contents to. Btw, I've described a car charger of mine there. Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Although not measured, I've confirmed that the iGo systems - Juice and car charger - with the A32 tip will charge the Neo Freerunner. At one point it stopped working, but either of a uboot or kernel change has it working again. On Aug 10, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Olivier Berger wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. Thanks... Should be that on the ID pin? We need a better search on the wiki Maybe also a small article with photos (as example) of a reworked charger (I figure that some opnemoko developers have already done that :P). Guys, I guess http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger may be the right place to add contents to. Btw, I've described a car charger of mine there. Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Am Fr 8. August 2008 schrieb Michael: On 11/07/08 00:00:51, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). Just to clear this up, I have read through the kernel source for the GTA01 pmu driver and there is no mention of 1000mA, but there is in the GTA02 driver. So either the PMU does not support it, or the kernel does not use this fature in its driver. Michael. IIRC, PCF50606 can't do 1000mA, only PCF50633 can. /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Car charger to GTA02
I'll have to check. I used the same tip with my old razr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R McClenaghan Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:00 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Steve, I'm either crazy or loosing my mind. I was sure that the FR was charging with the iGO and the A32 (Rev 1, subscript T) tip. I went to by another tip and got a A32 (Rev 2, subscript E) and while the FR recognized a connection (the usb symbol showed) it did not charge. I retired the other tip and same thing - usb symbol but no charge. I checked battery status with apm and it reported off line when the iGO was connected. Which tip are you using? Did I blow something? The USB charge and wall charger both work, so I'm questioning now whether I ever really saw my FR charging, maybe just saw the usb icon and assumed it was. Chris On Jul 13, 2008, at 11:36 AM, steve wrote: I have the same iGO. Have used it without problem with my freerunner for a long while -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R McClenaghan Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:44 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Brenda Wang Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 A general question related to car charging. I have an iGo charger and many tips. One is a mini-usb tip. It seems to be charging my Neo okay. Is there an reason I shouldn't use this device? There is also an iGo car charger that accepts the same tips. I'm not trying to push the brand here, just wanting to know if this is an alternative charging mechanism and whether it is safe. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. We need a better search on the wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Steve, I'm either crazy or loosing my mind. I was sure that the FR was charging with the iGO and the A32 (Rev 1, subscript T) tip. I went to by another tip and got a A32 (Rev 2, subscript E) and while the FR recognized a connection (the usb symbol showed) it did not charge. I retired the other tip and same thing - usb symbol but no charge. I checked battery status with apm and it reported off line when the iGO was connected. Which tip are you using? Did I blow something? The USB charge and wall charger both work, so I'm questioning now whether I ever really saw my FR charging, maybe just saw the usb icon and assumed it was. Chris On Jul 13, 2008, at 11:36 AM, steve wrote: I have the same iGO. Have used it without problem with my freerunner for a long while -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R McClenaghan Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:44 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Brenda Wang Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 A general question related to car charging. I have an iGo charger and many tips. One is a mini-usb tip. It seems to be charging my Neo okay. Is there an reason I shouldn't use this device? There is also an iGo car charger that accepts the same tips. I'm not trying to push the brand here, just wanting to know if this is an alternative charging mechanism and whether it is safe. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. We need a better search on the wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Car charger to GTA02
I have the same iGO. Have used it without problem with my freerunner for a long while -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R McClenaghan Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:44 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Brenda Wang Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 A general question related to car charging. I have an iGo charger and many tips. One is a mini-usb tip. It seems to be charging my Neo okay. Is there an reason I shouldn't use this device? There is also an iGo car charger that accepts the same tips. I'm not trying to push the brand here, just wanting to know if this is an alternative charging mechanism and whether it is safe. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. We need a better search on the wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. Thanks... Should be that on the ID pin? Should be 47k ohm from ID pin to ground. Description is on: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware Look under 'USB Host' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Car charger to GTA02
Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. We need a better search on the wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
A general question related to car charging. I have an iGo charger and many tips. One is a mini-usb tip. It seems to be charging my Neo okay. Is there an reason I shouldn't use this device? There is also an iGo car charger that accepts the same tips. I'm not trying to push the brand here, just wanting to know if this is an alternative charging mechanism and whether it is safe. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. We need a better search on the wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On 04/07/08 20:38:02, Michael Shiloh wrote: Depends what you're going to do with it. If you use a Y cable to charge the phone while powering another USB device you may need 1.5A. Recognize also that you'll have to either add the ID resistor yourself, or manually enable 1A charging via software. Michael How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. Michael. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Too many different usb-connectors out there, most of them molded and break when you open. So any howto very unlikely to appear. I'm currently looking for suppliers for adapters, maybe we may find one (see kernel-ml) cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On Sunday 06 July 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Too many different usb-connectors out there, most of them molded and break when you open. So any howto very unlikely to appear. I'm currently looking for suppliers for adapters, maybe we may find one (see kernel-ml) cheers jOERG maplin.co.uk stock mini-b plugs, but the one I picked up yesterday doesn't give access to the ID pin! I haven't yet found another supplier of mini-b plugs in the UK, so I'm hoping I can get a connection to the pin with a little delicate surgery. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Al Johnson wrote: On Sunday 06 July 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Too many different usb-connectors out there, most of them molded and break when you open. So any howto very unlikely to appear. I'm currently looking for suppliers for adapters, maybe we may find one (see kernel-ml) cheers jOERG maplin.co.uk stock mini-b plugs, but the one I picked up yesterday doesn't give access to the ID pin! I haven't yet found another supplier of mini-b plugs in the UK, so I'm hoping I can get a connection to the pin with a little delicate surgery. I ordered some from Digikey last week that are supposed to have the ID pin. I'll know for sure in a few days. H2958-ND I presume Digikey is available in the UK? M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On Friday 04 July 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 Yes it is :) You only needs 1 Amp, this have 2 Amps Depends what you're going to do with it. If you use a Y cable to charge the phone while powering another USB device you may need 1.5A. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 04 July 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 Yes it is :) You only needs 1 Amp, this have 2 Amps Depends what you're going to do with it. If you use a Y cable to charge the phone while powering another USB device you may need 1.5A. Recognize also that you'll have to either add the ID resistor yourself, or manually enable 1A charging via software. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Car charger to GTA02
make a compilation of this stuff and wikify accordingly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:09 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Michael Shiloh wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 04 July 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 Yes it is :) You only needs 1 Amp, this have 2 Amps Depends what you're going to do with it. If you use a Y cable to charge the phone while powering another USB device you may need 1.5A. Recognize also that you'll have to either add the ID resistor yourself, or manually enable 1A charging via software. Yes I knew this, I managed by doing this by software (since my hardware-editing skills are not so great), btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Thanks... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 Yes it is :) You only needs 1 Amp, this have 2 Amps ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | If you want fast charge (1A) you can either : | - Use the special cable that have the resistor, that provides GTA0x a | way to recognize the charger | - Use the applet somebody wrote to force fast charge mode by software. | | Be careful, drawing 1A out of USB can destroy the charger if it is not | supported ! | | Hope I'm not saying too much nonsense, and by the way, this is my first | mail on this list :) Hello world ! Hey Philippe - You're quite right... charging would hardly happen since it is not 100mA charging limit but 100mA limit at the USB socket, and we use some of that to power the CPU, etc. A 1A-capable cigarette skt - 5VDC mini USB adapter with the 48K resistor between ID and GND will do a good fast charge as you say. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfzO1QACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpLvACffKTlGQKxhsexC5WHgjDb7uzY fesAoJPn41/8/ObyWjGoSv2BOfWJDiDV =RTH3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On Tuesday 01 April 2008 17:01, Michael Shiloh wrote: snip By the way, if someone nicely documents step 3, including the resistor value, and how to identify which wires go to which pins, with excellent drawings or photographs, I'll nominate that for a developer of the week award :-) I thought it was Community Member of the Week not Developer of the Week Andy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Annoyingly enough this will be the hard bit because the fifth ID pin is | typically not connected to any wire in the cable. | | Good point. Are you aware of any cable that does bring out this pin? The three or four that I have hacked about over the years all had only four wires + shield. I guess a mini USB - mini USB cable if it existed would at least have somewhere to connect the ID pin through to, but I never saw one. | A workaround would be to construct your own cable from 2 connectors and | cable. Digikey carries all those connectors. Yes, http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=H2958-ND seems to be a 5-pin plug. I pulled apart a moulded one, one of our kit ones I think, they are not hackable at all. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfzZF8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqIAwCdHIKLmalGzJ57lF+On/Tfw/C+ ou0AmQEaI+IhCwKm39EARJSbiu3yBhip =d0dd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
a mini-USB to min-USB cable will only have 4 wires. The ID pin is tied to ground at one end of the cable, and left floating at the other. The ID pins at the two ends of the cables to not connect. --Steve On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:48 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Annoyingly enough this will be the hard bit because the fifth ID pin is | typically not connected to any wire in the cable. | | Good point. Are you aware of any cable that does bring out this pin? The three or four that I have hacked about over the years all had only four wires + shield. I guess a mini USB - mini USB cable if it existed would at least have somewhere to connect the ID pin through to, but I never saw one. | A workaround would be to construct your own cable from 2 connectors and | cable. Digikey carries all those connectors. Yes, http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=H2958-ND seems to be a 5-pin plug. I pulled apart a moulded one, one of our kit ones I think, they are not hackable at all. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfzZF8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqIAwCdHIKLmalGzJ57lF+On/Tfw/C+ ou0AmQEaI+IhCwKm39EARJSbiu3yBhip =d0dd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Andy Powell wrote: On Tuesday 01 April 2008 17:01, Michael Shiloh wrote: snip By the way, if someone nicely documents step 3, including the resistor value, and how to identify which wires go to which pins, with excellent drawings or photographs, I'll nominate that for a developer of the week award :-) I thought it was Community Member of the Week not Developer of the Week Argh! Andy is quite right. I carefully chose that title to assure nominees aren't limited to developers, as help might come in the form of artwork (e.g. icons, technical drawings for wiki,), music (e.g. ringtones), t-shirt design, etc. Thanks Andy, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Michael Shiloh ha scritto: A generic solution can be built this way: 1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g. http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10892. Make sure it can supply at least 1A. Note in my example that the specs don't say this, but if you look at the picture carefully you can read the 1A on the label. They are very common. I think I found one for less than $2.00. 2. Purchase a standard USB A to Mini B cable,e.g. http://www.cablesforless.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=14660. These too are common. I have about 4 left over from digital cameras. You can probably get them for free by asking your friends and relatives. 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Why not simply connecting the official Openmoko usb cable to the car usb charger? Will it need the mod you've figured at the point 3? Good question. I've assumed the resistor is in the charger and not the cable. If indeed it is in the cable your solution works. Can someone confirm this? Also, if this is true, it means you need to label your Openmoko USB cable is it is not the same as the half dozen other USB cables you have in your kitchen drawer from cameras and the like. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Anyway, I am going to try this out, but I do not have a Neo for the moment, soo if anyone can confirm the works I lay out. Michael Shiloh skrev: Andy Powell wrote: On Tuesday 01 April 2008 17:01, Michael Shiloh wrote: snip By the way, if someone nicely documents step 3, including the resistor value, and how to identify which wires go to which pins, with excellent drawings or photographs, I'll nominate that for a developer of the week award :-) I thought it was Community Member of the Week not Developer of the Week Argh! Andy is quite right. I carefully chose that title to assure nominees aren't limited to developers, as help might come in the form of artwork (e.g. icons, technical drawings for wiki,), music (e.g. ringtones), t-shirt design, etc. Thanks Andy, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Am Mi 2. April 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Michael Shiloh ha scritto: A generic solution can be built this way: 1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g. http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10892. Make sure it can supply at least 1A. Note in my example that the specs don't say this, but if you look at the picture carefully you can read the 1A on the label. They are very common. I think I found one for less than $2.00. 2. Purchase a standard USB A to Mini B cable,e.g. http://www.cablesforless.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=14660. These too are common. I have about 4 left over from digital cameras. You can probably get them for free by asking your friends and relatives. 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Why not simply connecting the official Openmoko usb cable to the car usb charger? Will it need the mod you've figured at the point 3? Good question. I've assumed the resistor is in the charger and not the cable. If indeed it is in the cable your solution works. Can someone confirm this? Also, if this is true, it means you need to label your Openmoko USB cable is it is not the same as the half dozen other USB cables you have in your kitchen drawer from cameras and the like. AFAIK the cable is a simple USB host to mini-USB device connect to PC one like with any camera. Neo will be in device mode with this cable. Charger has a fixed cable and R is inside mini-USB jack, i guess. Charging with the special jr-Y-cable for external powered host mode, with it's 2 pulldown R and ID-R will work. Just connect any USB charger to it. Alas this cable probably will not be included with Freerunner, you have to DIY. /jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
I don't know, if there will be a official Car Charger, but if not you might use something like this[1] [1] http://tiny.cc/IJMHm 2008/4/1, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey. Is it any plans about a car charger to FreeRunner? And if it is, what are the status? If not this is something i can need. Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Hmm Perhaps I will make one, and offcorse share the plans. I do not have a Neo, but if someone dares to try it on theirs and it works, I will be a verry happy man. Starting the research now, anyone that can give me the specs of the charger, Voltage and Amps. Alexander Frøyseth Kolja Dummann skrev: I don't know, if there will be a official Car Charger, but if not you might use something like this[1] [1] http://tiny.cc/IJMHm 2008/4/1, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey. Is it any plans about a car charger to FreeRunner? And if it is, what are the status? If not this is something i can need. Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm Perhaps I will make one, and offcorse share the plans. I do not have a Neo, but if someone dares to try it on theirs and it works, I will be a verry happy man. Starting the research now, anyone that can give me the specs of the charger, Voltage and Amps. This has been sort-of discussed before. Looking back: On Mar 27, 2008, at 2:58 PM, joerg wrote: Correct, it checks for 48k-OHM resistor on ID-pin of mini-USB, then enables 1A instead of 100/500mA USB-standard. And I believe USB (by specification) provides 5V. So as long as your charger is capable of providing 5V and 1A, you could set up the resistor and the GTA02 would automatically draw the full amount. -- -Johann Koenig (re-sending from other account; forgot which one i joined the list with) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor | between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Annoyingly enough this will be the hard bit because the fifth ID pin is typically not connected to any wire in the cable. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfycCIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqMVwCffe/DRp+ZTj+ZseQevodT1cjN y2IAn0RL2NTs14oz3/dv80Jv7Pbw+LAS =RaeL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
I can take a look and draw some plans, perhaps even a PCB plan. But I have to wait to I am back at school in 2 about weeks Alexander Frøyseth Andy Green skrev: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor | between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Annoyingly enough this will be the hard bit because the fifth ID pin is typically not connected to any wire in the cable. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfycCIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqMVwCffe/DRp+ZTj+ZseQevodT1cjN y2IAn0RL2NTs14oz3/dv80Jv7Pbw+LAS =RaeL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Michael Shiloh ha scritto: A generic solution can be built this way: 1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g. http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10892. Make sure it can supply at least 1A. Note in my example that the specs don't say this, but if you look at the picture carefully you can read the 1A on the label. They are very common. I think I found one for less than $2.00. 2. Purchase a standard USB A to Mini B cable,e.g. http://www.cablesforless.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=14660. These too are common. I have about 4 left over from digital cameras. You can probably get them for free by asking your friends and relatives. 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Why not simply connecting the official Openmoko usb cable to the car usb charger? Will it need the mod you've figured at the point 3? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
It have to be mod sinse a pc usb uses 5V and a car 12V Perhaps the is other resons to Alexander Frøyseth 2008/4/2, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Shiloh ha scritto: A generic solution can be built this way: 1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g. http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10892. Make sure it can supply at least 1A. Note in my example that the specs don't say this, but if you look at the picture carefully you can read the 1A on the label. They are very common. I think I found one for less than $2.00. 2. Purchase a standard USB A to Mini B cable,e.g. http://www.cablesforless.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=14660. These too are common. I have about 4 left over from digital cameras. You can probably get them for free by asking your friends and relatives. 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Why not simply connecting the official Openmoko usb cable to the car usb charger? Will it need the mod you've figured at the point 3? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
