Re: case manufacturing
I made a case mockup a little while ago. But I never had time to create a 3D model. I came across a few problems while I designed the case: - The Freerunner doesn't have any buttons on its front. In addition to that, the borders left and right from the display are pretty large (around 0.8 cm/0.315 inch). Everytime I looked at my mockup, I thought it's looking some kind of strange. It's really hard to get a good design if you only have a display and nothing more. - Another problem that was resulted by the one above was that every mockup I made looked either like the iPhone or a LG Prada (or like all the other mobiles with a touchscreen). These days nearly every touchscreen phone looks the same! - The last problem I came across was the thickness. Even if the bevels around the display are removed (that makes about 3mm/0.12inch less), the phone is still very thick. But I don't think there is a way to get it smaller... Have a look at the mockup here: http://www.opkg.org/images/case_mockup.jpg It would be really cool if someone could create a new case. I never liked the original one, and something more stylish would be great. Regards, Tobias On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 19:52, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.netwrote: arne anka wrote: would it be possible, this way, to find a possible way to remove the frame around the screen? In other words: could a new case be made that hasn't the frame around the screen? that would increase the usable surface my thoughts exactly ;-) any help from the hardware guys or those having the fr disassembled already? is the beveled border somehow necessary? Mh, When I removed the front cover to put in my homemade screen protector (a transparent foil for projections :P), I noticed that there's space for keeping the LCD on the surface of the cover. I'm I wrong? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
- The Freerunner doesn't have any buttons on its front. In addition to i'd pretty much like to see at least some kind of 5-way rocker switch -- i do not know how rakshat will implement an usb keyboard, but it might be a way for hw freaks to do the same with some simple buttons only. - Another problem that was resulted by the one above was that every mockup I made looked either like the iPhone or a LG Prada (or like i am comfortable with the current shape, looks a bit different. - The last problem I came across was the thickness. Even if the bevels around the display are removed (that makes about 3mm/0.12inch less), the phone is still very thick. But I don't think there is a way to get it smaller... if i remember correctly it's not much thicker than eg the iphone -- but the iphone has an rched back, getting thinner towards the sides. withe current design (buttons and slots at the sides, back cover easily removable) there's probably not much to be done about. re the bevel i was rather concerned wheter there's only empty space behind or if the hw requires them. it would be very nice if the edge between display and casing could disappear or be lowered substantially ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
Take a look at what swisscom have made : http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?page_id=53 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
U Sub, 13. 12. 2008., u 13:56 +0100, Vincent Pomageot je napisao/la: Take a look at what swisscom have made : http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?page_id=53 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Very nice! I like it. signature.asc Description: Dio poruke sa digitalnim potpisom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
Take a look at what swisscom have made : http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?page_id=53 nice. but the link as such is far nicer. didn't recall that swisscom was working on imporvements of the freerunner -- there are a few interesting posts in this blog. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
rakshat hooja ha scritto: ponoko.com http://ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com http://emachineshop.com if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) Rakshat Great idea :) What about adding an HSDPA modem like Huawei's Internet keys (adding only the board, not the full external modem) connected via a bypass to the USB port (to achieve charging even in host mode)? This could be useful too as we could have a dual SIM phone ;) Bye :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 rakshat hooja wrote: ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) Rakshat Hi, I've had this thought before as well - if you end up getting one be sure to let me know, because I'd love something like this! - -Dale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQjWfFbVnQRV3OEYRAtp7AKCL/Z0ZI/klSY5MZhvyco3Ab3FEgwCeJ5FJ CnvvU8nnQB3Mj7tt3btRt28= =zUcY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.comwrote: 2008/12/12 rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com: Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) excellent - i'd be interested in one of those if you're building more than one. are you designing the thing collaboratively, or on your own? This is a personal project, so doing it on my own. I will post the design I have in mind by monday (will try and build a mock prototype). Rakshat PS - also wanted to clarify that I am not a trained engineer so don't expect something very professional. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
would it be possible, this way, to find a possible way to remove the frame around the screen? In other words: could a new case be made that hasn't the frame around the screen? that would increase the usable surface -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/case-manufacturing-tp1642445p1648385.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
would it be possible, this way, to find a possible way to remove the frame around the screen? In other words: could a new case be made that hasn't the frame around the screen? that would increase the usable surface my thoughts exactly ;-) any help from the hardware guys or those having the fr disassembled already? is the beveled border somehow necessary? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
arne anka wrote: would it be possible, this way, to find a possible way to remove the frame around the screen? In other words: could a new case be made that hasn't the frame around the screen? that would increase the usable surface my thoughts exactly ;-) any help from the hardware guys or those having the fr disassembled already? is the beveled border somehow necessary? Mh, When I removed the front cover to put in my homemade screen protector (a transparent foil for projections :P), I noticed that there's space for keeping the LCD on the surface of the cover. I'm I wrong? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
2008/12/11 rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone know where one can get alternate case designs for the freerunner manufactured in quantities of less than 100. Any information would be appreciated. ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com there are a few companies around that will do 3d printing [1], and that's pretty cheap and immediate. try a google search you'd need to design and spec the thing yourself of course, and i have no idea on costs [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_printing ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
rakshat, ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
Shapeways seems to be a decent 3D-printing shop, with different materials to choose from: http://www.shapeways.com/ F. On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:58:08 +0100, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where one can get alternate case designs for the freerunner manufactured in quantities of less than 100. Any information would be appreciated. Rakshat -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
Thursday 11 December 2008 skrev rakshat hooja: ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) If you end up getting this made... be sure to tell people here, i'm sure you could make a bit of coin selling those :) (i for one would be happy to take one off you if they turn out well ;) ) -- ..Dan // Leinir.. http://leinir.dk/ Co- existence or no existence - Piet Hein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
There are a few options. Tully can explain. rakshat hooja wrote: Does anyone know where one can get alternate case designs for the freerunner manufactured in quantities of less than 100. Any information would be appreciated. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
2008/12/12 rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com: Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) excellent - i'd be interested in one of those if you're building more than one. are you designing the thing collaboratively, or on your own? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
