Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:17:27 +0200 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com
said:

 On Monday 27 April 2009 15:07:09 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
  David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com writes:
   No one has xv support. I bet there are not difference when playing
   videos.
 
  You mean this one?
 
  li...@ginger:~$ xdpyinfo | grep XV
  XVideo
 
  I'm using Xorg with xf86-video-glamo git revision 703acea13.
 
 He was asking XGlamo vs fbdev, and xf86-video-glamo is not Xglamo ;)
 
 But knowing Xorg glamo has xv support are really great news! :)
 What about xrand and composite?

xglamo had xv support ever since (long before gta02 went on sale). i even
quoted performance numbers using accelerated xv in xglamo long ago.

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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-28 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Martes, 28 de Abril de 2009, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen escribiu:
 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 02:50:56PM +0200, David Garabana Barro wrote:
  You should use a patched mplayer. Xglamo has not xv support.

 $ xdpyinfo -display :0 | grep -F -e XVideo
 XVideo

It works fine in guvcview for down scaling a 640x480 viewfinder window
 to something more manageble.

It's great to realise that I was missing this feature for such a long time... 
and it was there ;)

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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-28 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Martes, 28 de Abril de 2009, Carsten Haitzler escribiu:
 On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:17:27 +0200 David Garabana Barro
 
  He was asking XGlamo vs fbdev, and xf86-video-glamo is not Xglamo ;)
 
  But knowing Xorg glamo has xv support are really great news! :)
  What about xrand and composite?

 xglamo had xv support ever since (long before gta02 went on sale). i even
 quoted performance numbers using accelerated xv in xglamo long ago.

Do you remember the subject of that thread?
I'm trying to find it,only for curiosity

Thank you!

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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-28 Thread Miguel Ángel Calderón
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:


  He was asking XGlamo vs fbdev, and xf86-video-glamo is not Xglamo ;)
 
  But knowing Xorg glamo has xv support are really great news! :)
  What about xrand and composite?

 xglamo had xv support ever since (long before gta02 went on sale). i even
 quoted performance numbers using accelerated xv in xglamo long ago.


Is it any performance improvement between the xserver-glamo and the new Xorg
server
for glamo?

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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:52:19 +0200 Miguel Ángel Calderón
miguelangel...@gmail.com said:

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
 
 
   He was asking XGlamo vs fbdev, and xf86-video-glamo is not Xglamo ;)
  
   But knowing Xorg glamo has xv support are really great news! :)
   What about xrand and composite?
 
  xglamo had xv support ever since (long before gta02 went on sale). i even
  quoted performance numbers using accelerated xv in xglamo long ago.
 
 
 Is it any performance improvement between the xserver-glamo and the new Xorg
 server
 for glamo?

i doubt it. but i don't know. there are only a few things that are left to tbe
sped up, and they wont make up for the slowdowns in going to and from video ram
for the fallbacks. xv isnt going to see an improvement until video bandwidth
improves - and thats stil a key problem that is not going away.

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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:51:27 +0200 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com
said:

 O Martes, 28 de Abril de 2009, Carsten Haitzler escribiu:
  On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:17:27 +0200 David Garabana Barro
  
   He was asking XGlamo vs fbdev, and xf86-video-glamo is not Xglamo ;)
  
   But knowing Xorg glamo has xv support are really great news! :)
   What about xrand and composite?
 
  xglamo had xv support ever since (long before gta02 went on sale). i even
  quoted performance numbers using accelerated xv in xglamo long ago.
 
 Do you remember the subject of that thread?
 I'm trying to find it,only for curiosity

godd.. beats me. i'd just search for yuv glamo xv fps like this:

http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg18455.html


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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
 i would like to distribute in my rootfs video player that can play
 theora videos in fullscreen mode 320x240.

I'd also like a way to play TheoraOgg videos fullscreen.

 I was experimenting with mplayer on with fbdev as video output, but
 i was able to play just very small resolution video (160x120).  I used
 ffmpeg2theora for encoding and mplayer from debian.

You'll first need to make sure that your mplayer doesn't use
floating-point audio playback, otherwise this will overwhelm everything
else.  Also you may need to reencode your videos at lower frame rates.


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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-28 Thread Radek Polak
Stefan Monnier wrote:

 You'll first need to make sure that your mplayer doesn't use
 floating-point audio playback, otherwise this will overwhelm everything
 else.  Also you may need to reencode your videos at lower frame rates.

Hi Stefan,
thanks for hint. I think i compiled mplayer right (using tremor for
audio output). With glamo video driver it's not a bit better, but i
am still able to play fluently just very small ogg video. I will try
vorbis libraries from svn, otherwise i will have stick with mpeg.

Radek


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Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-27 Thread Radek Polak
Hi,
i would like to distribute in my rootfs video player that can play
theora videos in fullscreen mode 320x240.

I was experimenting with mplayer on with fbdev as video output, but
i was able to play just very small resolution video (160x120). I
used ffmpeg2theora for encoding and mplayer from debian.

So my question: is it possible to play 320x240 theora videos? Which
player should i use? How to convert videos?

Btw what is faster video output. Xglamo or fbdev?

Thanks

Radek


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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-27 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Monday 27 April 2009 14:33:47 Radek Polak wrote:
 Hi,
 i would like to distribute in my rootfs video player that can play
 theora videos in fullscreen mode 320x240.

Glamo can only accelerate mpeg4 AFAIK

 I was experimenting with mplayer on with fbdev as video output, but
 i was able to play just very small resolution video (160x120). I
 used ffmpeg2theora for encoding and mplayer from debian.

You should use a patched mplayer. Xglamo has not xv support. Link to patched 
mplayer binary:

http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2

 Btw what is faster video output. Xglamo or fbdev?

No one has xv support. I bet there are not difference when playing videos.

More info about video playing:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player

Following this instructions, I can play 320x200 mpeg4.

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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-27 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com writes:
 No one has xv support. I bet there are not difference when playing videos.

You mean this one?

li...@ginger:~$ xdpyinfo | grep XV
XVideo

I'm using Xorg with xf86-video-glamo git revision 703acea13.


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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-27 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Monday 27 April 2009 15:07:09 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com writes:
  No one has xv support. I bet there are not difference when playing
  videos.

 You mean this one?

 li...@ginger:~$ xdpyinfo | grep XV
 XVideo

 I'm using Xorg with xf86-video-glamo git revision 703acea13.

He was asking XGlamo vs fbdev, and xf86-video-glamo is not Xglamo ;)

But knowing Xorg glamo has xv support are really great news! :)
What about xrand and composite?

Is stable enough for daily use?

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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-27 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Not sure if it means anything, but I used compositing on my phone (I had the
translucent QWO for a while) and it seemed to work just fine. I use
SHR-unstable, BTW. Not sure what GUI server it uses, but I'm sure it's
fairly recent. :)
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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-27 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com writes:
 What about xrand and composite?

Both work.

 Is stable enough for daily use?

Yes. I've used it now for nearly two months.


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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-27 Thread Radek Polak
David Garabana Barro wrote:

 You should use a patched mplayer. Xglamo has not xv support. Link to patched 
 mplayer binary:
 
 http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2

Hi David,
thank you very much. This mplayer really can handle 320x240 avi, but it
does not have support for ogg theora. Are there sources available for
this binary? I have found this[1] repo, but not sure if these are
sources for above binary. Anyone knows?

Thanks

Radek

[1] http://repo.or.cz/w/mplayer/glamo.git

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Re: Theora 320x240 - is it possible?

2009-04-27 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
David Garabana Barro ha scritto:
 On Monday 27 April 2009 14:33:47 Radek Polak wrote:
 Hi,
 i would like to distribute in my rootfs video player that can play
 theora videos in fullscreen mode 320x240.
 
 Glamo can only accelerate mpeg4 AFAIK
 
 I was experimenting with mplayer on with fbdev as video output, but
 i was able to play just very small resolution video (160x120). I
 used ffmpeg2theora for encoding and mplayer from debian.
 
 You should use a patched mplayer. Xglamo has not xv support.

Xglamo *does* support Xv. I'm using it and works quite at the same level
of the glamo engine (also for non-mp4 files).
For istance, I can nicely play 320x240 flv videos (I only have to use a
framedrop of 2-3 frames).
See previous posts about this. ;)

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