RE: Welcome to the Tinkerphones community

2016-07-01 Thread Neil Jerram 
Agreed - I think the new name is exactly right.

Neil


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joerg Reisenweber
Sent: 01 July 2016 08:12
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Subject: Re: Welcome to the Tinkerphones community

Congrats!

This was overdue and the new name is absolutely to the point and has quite
some appeal. The definition of what is / is not a tinkerphone is very
helpful and should go to the frontpage at http://www.tinkerphones.org

I like it very much.

What about icons etc, generally the complete "corporate identity"? Has it
been discussed what will change (beyond the obviously pending overhaul of
http://www.tinkerphones.org artwork/design), and are there already tasks
assigned to experts? Maybe even new logos etc established and available?

Many thanks, Nikolaus - and whoever else been involved! :-) cheers jOERG

On Fri 01 July 2016 08:29:39 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Hi,
> after several years of running the OpenPhoenux community, we thought 
> that it is time to refresh it a little and replace the awkward name 
> "OpenPhoenux" (it was always difficult to spell and pronounce) with 
> something new, self-explaining, that your mom understands.
> 
> "OpenPhoneux" was originally coined in ca. 2009 as the name of an 
> initiative, when it became clear that the Openmoko company would stop 
> to develop a successor of the Openmoko Freerunner. It finally brought 
> the GTA04 device to life.
> 
> Back then, this was a motivating allusion to the situation of building 
> something new on the remains of Openmoko, but nowadays probably only 
> some core members of our community are able to understand this 
> background.
> 
> Therefore we discussed in a small circle what the core of Openmoko and 
> Openphoenux is.
> 
> It was easy to find what it is not:
> * it is not a 100% fair phone (we don't have the resources to track
>   components - it is enough challenge to have it working and being 
> produced)
> * it is not a 100% open phone (we have not found a feasible solution 
> for WLAN and GPU)
> * it is not a 100% secure phone (we can't do security audits of every
>   component)
> * it is not a cutting edge phone (we do not get the latest and greatest
>   chips as mainstream manufacturers do)
> * it is not a geeks (only) phone (we want everybody to be able to use
>   it)
> 
> But then we found what the common denominator of all Openmoko 
> activities was and is:
> 
> It is a device that allows you to tinker with it, i.e. find out how it 
> works, to replace software and even hardware components for smaller or 
> bigger improvements and even repairs. It is designed in a way to 
> enable such changes instead of stopping you (e.g. by protected boot 
> loaders, undocumented code etc.).
> 
> All this is facilitated by being open (as far as NDAs and other 
> limitations
> allow) and using open source technology (e.g. GNU/Linux, Debian).
> 
> Here is a definition of what "tinkering" is [1]:
> 
>   "tinker or tinker around to make small changes to something in order

> to improve or repair it" "tinker with: He spends hours tinkering 
> around with car engines."
> 
> So we are now happy to tell the world that we are members of "the 
> Tinkerphone community" :)
> 
> There is a new web domain representing this change:
> 
>   <http://www.tinkerphones.org>
> 
> I hope you will agree with us and stay here, contribute and share your 
> ideas and achievements. And invite new tinkerers to participate.
> 
> Happy tinkering,
> Nikolaus
> 
> PS: it will need your help to update the documentation pages...
> 
> [1]: <http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/tinker_1>
> 
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Re: [Tinkerphones] Welcome to the Tinkerphones community

2016-07-01 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller 

> Am 01.07.2016 um 09:12 schrieb joerg Reisenweber :
> 
> Congrats!
> 
> This was overdue and the new name is absolutely to the point and has quite 
> some appeal. The definition of what is / is not a tinkerphone is very helpful 
> and should go to the frontpage at http://www.tinkerphones.org
> 
> I like it very much.

That is nice to hear :)

> 
> What about icons etc, generally the complete "corporate identity"? Has it 
> been 
> discussed what will change (beyond the obviously pending overhaul of 
> http://www.tinkerphones.org artwork/design), and are there already tasks 
> assigned to experts? Maybe even new logos etc established and available?

No, nothing. Just the the domain registration and minor changes to the mailing
list and home page.

So there is plenty of room for volunteers to make proposals and many topics for
our community to discuss.

> 
> Many thanks, Nikolaus - and whoever else been involved! :-)
> cheers
> jOERG

> 
> On Fri 01 July 2016 08:29:39 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> Hi,
>> after several years of running the OpenPhoenux community, we
>> thought that it is time to refresh it a little and replace the awkward
>> name "OpenPhoenux" (it was always difficult to spell and pronounce)
>> with something new, self-explaining, that your mom understands.
>> 
>> "OpenPhoneux" was originally coined in ca. 2009 as the name of an
>> initiative, when it became clear that the Openmoko company would stop
>> to develop a successor of the Openmoko Freerunner. It finally brought
>> the GTA04 device to life.
>> 
>> Back then, this was a motivating allusion to the situation of building
>> something new on the remains of Openmoko, but nowadays probably
>> only some core members of our community are able to understand
>> this background.
>> 
>> Therefore we discussed in a small circle what the core of Openmoko
>> and Openphoenux is.
>> 
>> It was easy to find what it is not:
>> * it is not a 100% fair phone (we don't have the resources to track
>>  components - it is enough challenge to have it working and being produced)
>> * it is not a 100% open phone (we have not found a feasible solution for
>> WLAN and GPU)
>> * it is not a 100% secure phone (we can't do security audits of every
>>  component)
>> * it is not a cutting edge phone (we do not get the latest and greatest
>>  chips as mainstream manufacturers do)
>> * it is not a geeks (only) phone (we want everybody to be able to use
>>  it)
>> 
>> But then we found what the common denominator of all Openmoko
>> activities was and is:
>> 
>> It is a device that allows you to tinker with it, i.e. find out how it
>> works, to replace software and even hardware components for smaller or
>> bigger improvements and even repairs. It is designed in a way to enable
>> such changes instead of stopping you (e.g. by protected boot loaders,
>> undocumented code etc.).
>> 
>> All this is facilitated by being open (as far as NDAs and other limitations
>> allow) and using open source technology (e.g. GNU/Linux, Debian).
>> 
>> Here is a definition of what "tinkering" is [1]:
>> 
>>  "tinker or tinker around to make small changes to something in order to
>> improve or repair it" "tinker with: He spends hours tinkering around with
>> car engines."
>> 
>> So we are now happy to tell the world that we are members of
>> "the Tinkerphone community" :)
>> 
>> There is a new web domain representing this change:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I hope you will agree with us and stay here, contribute and share
>> your ideas and achievements. And invite new tinkerers to participate.
>> 
>> Happy tinkering,
>> Nikolaus
>> 
>> PS: it will need your help to update the documentation pages...
>> 
>> [1]: 
>> 
>> 

BR,
Nikolaus


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Re: Welcome to the Tinkerphones community

2016-07-01 Thread joerg Reisenweber 
Congrats!

This was overdue and the new name is absolutely to the point and has quite 
some appeal. The definition of what is / is not a tinkerphone is very helpful 
and should go to the frontpage at http://www.tinkerphones.org

I like it very much.

What about icons etc, generally the complete "corporate identity"? Has it been 
discussed what will change (beyond the obviously pending overhaul of 
http://www.tinkerphones.org artwork/design), and are there already tasks 
assigned to experts? Maybe even new logos etc established and available?

Many thanks, Nikolaus - and whoever else been involved! :-)
cheers
jOERG

On Fri 01 July 2016 08:29:39 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Hi,
> after several years of running the OpenPhoenux community, we
> thought that it is time to refresh it a little and replace the awkward
> name "OpenPhoenux" (it was always difficult to spell and pronounce)
> with something new, self-explaining, that your mom understands.
> 
> "OpenPhoneux" was originally coined in ca. 2009 as the name of an
> initiative, when it became clear that the Openmoko company would stop
> to develop a successor of the Openmoko Freerunner. It finally brought
> the GTA04 device to life.
> 
> Back then, this was a motivating allusion to the situation of building
> something new on the remains of Openmoko, but nowadays probably
> only some core members of our community are able to understand
> this background.
> 
> Therefore we discussed in a small circle what the core of Openmoko
> and Openphoenux is.
> 
> It was easy to find what it is not:
> * it is not a 100% fair phone (we don't have the resources to track
>   components - it is enough challenge to have it working and being produced)
> * it is not a 100% open phone (we have not found a feasible solution for
> WLAN and GPU)
> * it is not a 100% secure phone (we can't do security audits of every
>   component)
> * it is not a cutting edge phone (we do not get the latest and greatest
>   chips as mainstream manufacturers do)
> * it is not a geeks (only) phone (we want everybody to be able to use
>   it)
> 
> But then we found what the common denominator of all Openmoko
> activities was and is:
> 
> It is a device that allows you to tinker with it, i.e. find out how it
> works, to replace software and even hardware components for smaller or
> bigger improvements and even repairs. It is designed in a way to enable
> such changes instead of stopping you (e.g. by protected boot loaders,
> undocumented code etc.).
> 
> All this is facilitated by being open (as far as NDAs and other limitations
> allow) and using open source technology (e.g. GNU/Linux, Debian).
> 
> Here is a definition of what "tinkering" is [1]:
> 
>   "tinker or tinker around to make small changes to something in order to
> improve or repair it" "tinker with: He spends hours tinkering around with
> car engines."
> 
> So we are now happy to tell the world that we are members of
> "the Tinkerphone community" :)
> 
> There is a new web domain representing this change:
> 
>   
> 
> I hope you will agree with us and stay here, contribute and share
> your ideas and achievements. And invite new tinkerers to participate.
> 
> Happy tinkering,
> Nikolaus
> 
> PS: it will need your help to update the documentation pages...
> 
> [1]: 
> 
> 
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Welcome to the Tinkerphones community

2016-07-01 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller 
Hi,
after several years of running the OpenPhoenux community, we
thought that it is time to refresh it a little and replace the awkward
name "OpenPhoenux" (it was always difficult to spell and pronounce)
with something new, self-explaining, that your mom understands.

"OpenPhoneux" was originally coined in ca. 2009 as the name of an
initiative, when it became clear that the Openmoko company would stop
to develop a successor of the Openmoko Freerunner. It finally brought
the GTA04 device to life.

Back then, this was a motivating allusion to the situation of building
something new on the remains of Openmoko, but nowadays probably
only some core members of our community are able to understand
this background.

Therefore we discussed in a small circle what the core of Openmoko
and Openphoenux is.

It was easy to find what it is not:
* it is not a 100% fair phone (we don't have the resources to track
  components - it is enough challenge to have it working and being produced)
* it is not a 100% open phone (we have not found a feasible solution for
  WLAN and GPU)
* it is not a 100% secure phone (we can't do security audits of every
  component)
* it is not a cutting edge phone (we do not get the latest and greatest
  chips as mainstream manufacturers do)
* it is not a geeks (only) phone (we want everybody to be able to use
  it)

But then we found what the common denominator of all Openmoko
activities was and is:

It is a device that allows you to tinker with it, i.e. find out how it works,
to replace software and even hardware components for smaller or
bigger improvements and even repairs. It is designed in a way to enable
such changes instead of stopping you (e.g. by protected boot loaders,
undocumented code etc.).

All this is facilitated by being open (as far as NDAs and other limitations
allow) and using open source technology (e.g. GNU/Linux, Debian).

Here is a definition of what "tinkering" is [1]:

"tinker or tinker around to make small changes to something in order to 
improve or repair it"
"tinker with: He spends hours tinkering around with car engines."

So we are now happy to tell the world that we are members of
"the Tinkerphone community" :)

There is a new web domain representing this change:



I hope you will agree with us and stay here, contribute and share
your ideas and achievements. And invite new tinkerers to participate.

Happy tinkering,
Nikolaus

PS: it will need your help to update the documentation pages...

[1]: 


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