Re: YAIKT - Yet Another Illume Keyboard Thread

2009-02-02 Thread Pander
Michael Zanetti wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 I'm using the illume keyboard on my OM2008.12 powered Freerunner. I have 
 created my own keyboard layouts that perfectly fit to my needs:
 1. qwerty without any special characters - Finger friendly

illume-keyboards-numbers-alt
http://www.opkg.org/package_106.html

 2. Numbers and most special chars - Finger friendly
 3. Full-featured notebook-like with all the crap you never need - Stylus 
 friendly

you can take this one as inspiration
illume-keyboards-dutch-nl
http://www.opkg.org/package_87.html
the characters with diacritics are optimised for dutch language
according to character histograms but it is perfect for stylus ful
feature work.

 
 When using my FR as on the go, I constantly need the first two layouts. And I 
 have to switch quite often beween them but I never use the third one.
 When I'm at home and fiddle around with lots of terminals and stuff like 
 that, 
 it happens that I need the third layout. But then, I have a stylus.
 
 The problem now is, that when I'm writing a message using my thumb and switch 
 between the different layouts I need to slide the keyboard up once to switch 
 from the qwerty layout to the numbers but I have to slide up twice to get 
 back 
 to the qwerty one. This is because I have to hop over the full-featured 
 layout 
 that I cannot use with my fingers.
 
 The idea is this:
 It would be great to be able to define if a layout should be addressed when 
 sliding the finger up. This way, only the finger-friendly keyboards would be 
 visible when using the FR only with your fingers. When using a stylus one 
 could 
 still open the terminal-keyboard using the menu on the upper right of the 
 keyboard.
 This could be done by defining a property in the keyboard file just like for 
 example the property for enabling/disabling the dictionary.
 
 IMHO this is not the ultra-mind-blowing idea, but would be a little step 
 closer to the worlds best on-screen-keyboard.
 
 What do you think?
 
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Re: YAIKT - Yet Another Illume Keyboard Thread

2009-02-02 Thread Michael Zanetti
Thanks for your reply. But I think you misunderstood me. I already have 
created my keyboards and use them since over a month now. In fact, they are 
very similar to the ones you have posted but optimized for german text.

Anyways, this thread should discuss the slide-up-to-switch-layout 
functionality but not the layouts itself.

On Monday 02 February 2009 12:19:06 Pander wrote:
 Michael Zanetti wrote:
  Hi all!
 
  I'm using the illume keyboard on my OM2008.12 powered Freerunner. I have
  created my own keyboard layouts that perfectly fit to my needs:
  1. qwerty without any special characters - Finger friendly

 illume-keyboards-numbers-alt
 http://www.opkg.org/package_106.html

  2. Numbers and most special chars - Finger friendly
  3. Full-featured notebook-like with all the crap you never need - Stylus
  friendly

 you can take this one as inspiration
 illume-keyboards-dutch-nl
 http://www.opkg.org/package_87.html
 the characters with diacritics are optimised for dutch language
 according to character histograms but it is perfect for stylus ful
 feature work.

  When using my FR as on the go, I constantly need the first two layouts.
  And I have to switch quite often beween them but I never use the third
  one. When I'm at home and fiddle around with lots of terminals and stuff
  like that, it happens that I need the third layout. But then, I have a
  stylus.
 
  The problem now is, that when I'm writing a message using my thumb and
  switch between the different layouts I need to slide the keyboard up once
  to switch from the qwerty layout to the numbers but I have to slide up
  twice to get back to the qwerty one. This is because I have to hop over
  the full-featured layout that I cannot use with my fingers.
 
  The idea is this:
  It would be great to be able to define if a layout should be addressed
  when sliding the finger up. This way, only the finger-friendly keyboards
  would be visible when using the FR only with your fingers. When using a
  stylus one could still open the terminal-keyboard using the menu on the
  upper right of the keyboard.
  This could be done by defining a property in the keyboard file just like
  for example the property for enabling/disabling the dictionary.
 
  IMHO this is not the ultra-mind-blowing idea, but would be a little step
  closer to the worlds best on-screen-keyboard.
 
  What do you think?
 
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Re: YAIKT - Yet Another Illume Keyboard Thread

2009-02-02 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:55:12 +0100, Michael Zanetti
michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 I'm using the illume keyboard on my OM2008.12 powered Freerunner. I have
 created my own keyboard layouts that perfectly fit to my needs:

 The problem now is, that when I'm writing a message using my thumb and
 switch
 between the different layouts I need to slide the keyboard up once to
 switch
 from the qwerty layout to the numbers but I have to slide up twice to get
 back
 to the qwerty one. This is because I have to hop over the full-featured
 layout
 that I cannot use with my fingers.

Just checking - are you aware that you should be able to slide down as
well?  if you have three keyvboard layouts defined, the 'other two' are
always a single stroke away, up or down.

j

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http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff)


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YAIKT - Yet Another Illume Keyboard Thread

2009-02-02 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi all!

I'm using the illume keyboard on my OM2008.12 powered Freerunner. I have 
created my own keyboard layouts that perfectly fit to my needs:
1. qwerty without any special characters - Finger friendly
2. Numbers and most special chars - Finger friendly
3. Full-featured notebook-like with all the crap you never need - Stylus 
friendly

When using my FR as on the go, I constantly need the first two layouts. And I 
have to switch quite often beween them but I never use the third one.
When I'm at home and fiddle around with lots of terminals and stuff like that, 
it happens that I need the third layout. But then, I have a stylus.

The problem now is, that when I'm writing a message using my thumb and switch 
between the different layouts I need to slide the keyboard up once to switch 
from the qwerty layout to the numbers but I have to slide up twice to get back 
to the qwerty one. This is because I have to hop over the full-featured layout 
that I cannot use with my fingers.

The idea is this:
It would be great to be able to define if a layout should be addressed when 
sliding the finger up. This way, only the finger-friendly keyboards would be 
visible when using the FR only with your fingers. When using a stylus one could 
still open the terminal-keyboard using the menu on the upper right of the 
keyboard.
This could be done by defining a property in the keyboard file just like for 
example the property for enabling/disabling the dictionary.

IMHO this is not the ultra-mind-blowing idea, but would be a little step 
closer to the worlds best on-screen-keyboard.

What do you think?

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Re: YAIKT - Yet Another Illume Keyboard Thread

2009-02-02 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Monday 02 February 2009 12:25:46 Joel Newkirk wrote:
 On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:55:12 +0100, Michael Zanetti

 michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote:
  Hi all!
 
  I'm using the illume keyboard on my OM2008.12 powered Freerunner. I have
  created my own keyboard layouts that perfectly fit to my needs:
 
  The problem now is, that when I'm writing a message using my thumb and
  switch
  between the different layouts I need to slide the keyboard up once to
  switch
  from the qwerty layout to the numbers but I have to slide up twice to get
  back
  to the qwerty one. This is because I have to hop over the full-featured
  layout
  that I cannot use with my fingers.

 Just checking - are you aware that you should be able to slide down as
 well?  if you have three keyvboard layouts defined, the 'other two' are
 always a single stroke away, up or down.


Sliding down results in a Enter keypress here... Only sliding up changes the 
layout.

Michael

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