axfs

2008-11-19 Thread Vinzenz Hersche
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Hello there,

i don't know if this topic was already a discussion, but i think, if
openmoko could change to axfs,  i belive, it's a great performance-step.

shure, the software had already enough bugs and this isn't the most
important thing. there's also enough to do, but: maybe there is
someone with enough time who want to implement these fs..

http://axfs.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=10

jffs2 isn't so bad, and i don't know the failures of this system (it's
a little bit new), but maybe it's stable enough.

so the community know now this system, if someone like it, hack it in!
:) (i've not enough time and expirience.. sorry.. :( )

greets

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Re: axfs

2008-11-19 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
On Wednesday 19 November 2008 17:46:15 Vinzenz Hersche wrote:
 Hello there,

 i don't know if this topic was already a discussion, but i think, if
 openmoko could change to axfs,  i belive, it's a great performance-step.

 shure, the software had already enough bugs and this isn't the most
 important thing. there's also enough to do, but: maybe there is
 someone with enough time who want to implement these fs..

 http://axfs.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=10

 jffs2 isn't so bad, and i don't know the failures of this system (it's
 a little bit new), but maybe it's stable enough.

 so the community know now this system, if someone like it, hack it in!

 :) (i've not enough time and expirience.. sorry.. :( )

 greets
I thinke better chois is UBIFS =)
Also ubifs already avalieble in mainline kernel 2.6.28
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Re: axfs

2008-11-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
 i don't know if this topic was already a discussion, but i think, if
 openmoko could change to axfs,  i belive, it's a great performance-step.

Problems with it:
- axfs is read-only, so you'd need to use a setup similar to OpenWRT
  with a axfs filesystem containing the base system plus a jffs2
  filesystem layered on top (using some variant of unionfs).
- its main attraction is the XIP feature, but this only works with
  NOR flash.  We do have some NOR flash, but it's only 2MB (IIUC) and it
  can only be flashed with the debug-board, so the potential benefit is
  slim and restricted to those users who bought the debug board.

Using axfs+jffs2 might be an option, where the main benefit would be to
save some space on the flash drive, but currently the 256MB of flash is
rarely a significant limitation (especially if you're careful to keep
only application in the NAND and put all your data/images/sounds in the
microSD card).

Actually, the one place I know where the 256MB of flash is a bit short
is when installing Debian there, but using axfs+jffs2 with Debian would
be a fair bit of extra work and would often defeat the purpose of using
Debian in the first place.


Stefan


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AXFS filesystem for NOR

2008-08-26 Thread Tilman Baumann
What is the NOR flash used for in Freerunner?

I don't know if it is worth it, but i always wanted to have a execution
in place memory scheme on my embedded devices.
There it is: http://axfs.sourceforge.net/

Only makes sense in NOR (the XIP part). But maybe we can speed up things
(and save RAM) by putting some base system stuff in NOR with a XIP scheme?
Problem, i have no idea what the NOR part is used for in Freerunners.
Maybe it is all not worth talking about. :)

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Re: AXFS filesystem for NOR

2008-08-26 Thread Fox Mulder
I was thinking of the NOR flash as a backup if everithing goes wrong. If
you flashed the NAND with a new bootloader and it fails you maybe
couldn't start the bootloader from NAND anymore.
But you always could boot from NOR flash because you couldn't/didn't
reflash this bootloader.
Maybe i'm totaly wrong about the duty of the NOR flash, but this is what
i think of it. It is the life belt if you swim too far out of the NAND
flashing sea. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

Tilman Baumann wrote:
 What is the NOR flash used for in Freerunner?
 
 I don't know if it is worth it, but i always wanted to have a execution
 in place memory scheme on my embedded devices.
 There it is: http://axfs.sourceforge.net/
 
 Only makes sense in NOR (the XIP part). But maybe we can speed up things
 (and save RAM) by putting some base system stuff in NOR with a XIP scheme?
 Problem, i have no idea what the NOR part is used for in Freerunners.
 Maybe it is all not worth talking about. :)
 
 PS: I accidentally sent this mail from my other account. The list did 
 not take it.

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