Re: [coreboot] [PATCH]Move QRANK_DIMM_SUPPORT to Kconfig

2010-11-05 Thread Peter Stuge
Patrick Georgi wrote:
 (are qrank dimms really a per-board thing?)

Which boards do not have the variable set?


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Re: [coreboot] [PATCH]Move QRANK_DIMM_SUPPORT to Kconfig

2010-11-05 Thread Patrick Georgi
Am 05.11.2010 19:20, schrieb Peter Stuge:
 Patrick Georgi wrote:
 (are qrank dimms really a per-board thing?)
 
 Which boards do not have the variable set?
About 30, I think. I only did a grep .. | wc -l comparison:

$ grep NORTHBRIDGE_AMD_AMDK8 src/mainboard/*/*/Kconfig |wc -l
86

So 86 boards are eligible for that option.

$ svn st |grep romstage.c |wc -l
63

63 boards have that option dropped (the patch is the only change in that
tree).

So there are 23 boards that do not set it.


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Re: [coreboot] [PATCH]Move QRANK_DIMM_SUPPORT to Kconfig

2010-11-05 Thread Scott Duplichan
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From: coreboot-boun...@coreboot.org [mailto:coreboot-boun...@coreboot.org] On 
Behalf Of Peter Stuge
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 01:21 PM
To: coreboot@coreboot.org
Subject: Re: [coreboot] [PATCH]Move QRANK_DIMM_SUPPORT to Kconfig

]Patrick Georgi wrote:
] (are qrank dimms really a per-board thing?)
]
]Which boards do not have the variable set?

I am no quad rank dimm expert, but I think few boards support them. One is 
Serengeti
Cheetah. I remember asking why one processor socket has 4 dimm slots and 
another 8.
I was told it was for quad rank dimm testing. The chip selects for two normal 
dimm sockets
are combined and routed to a quad rank socket, if I remember correctly. I don't 
even
have any quad ranked dimms to test with. I think they are rare.

Thanks,
Scott


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Re: [coreboot] [PATCH]Move QRANK_DIMM_SUPPORT to Kconfig

2010-11-05 Thread Ward Vandewege
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 01:28:59PM -0500, Scott Duplichan wrote:
 I am no quad rank dimm expert, but I think few boards support them. One is 
 Serengeti
 Cheetah. I remember asking why one processor socket has 4 dimm slots and 
 another 8.
 I was told it was for quad rank dimm testing. The chip selects for two normal 
 dimm sockets
 are combined and routed to a quad rank socket, if I remember correctly. I 
 don't even
 have any quad ranked dimms to test with. I think they are rare.

Actually, they are not *that* rare, since they are readily available:

  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEDEPA=0Order=BESTMATCHDescription=ddr3+quad+rankx=0y=0

Thanks,
Ward.

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Re: [coreboot] [PATCH]Move QRANK_DIMM_SUPPORT to Kconfig

2010-11-05 Thread Scott Duplichan
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From: Ward Vandewege [mailto:w...@gnu.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 01:42 PM
To: Scott Duplichan
Cc: 'Peter Stuge'; coreboot@coreboot.org
Subject: Re: [coreboot] [PATCH]Move QRANK_DIMM_SUPPORT to Kconfig

]On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 01:28:59PM -0500, Scott Duplichan wrote:
] I am no quad rank dimm expert, but I think few boards support them. One is 
Serengeti
] Cheetah. I remember asking why one processor socket has 4 dimm slots and 
another 8.
] I was told it was for quad rank dimm testing. The chip selects for two 
normal dimm sockets
] are combined and routed to a quad rank socket, if I remember correctly. I 
don't even
] have any quad ranked dimms to test with. I think they are rare.
]
]Actually, they are not *that* rare, since they are readily available:
]
]  
]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEDEPA=0Order=BESTMATCHDescription=ddr3]+quad+rankx=0y=0

Sure enough. And not a bad price (per MB), either. Thanks for pointing them out.

Though I would question the maturity of coreboot support for registered
DDR3 in general, and specifically for 1333 speed or quad rank. I believe
these were perfected internally at AMD only recently. How well has coreboot
been tested with various speeds of registered DDR3? There is a lot more
complexity in the memory init code when registered DIMMs of any rank count
are used. And there is still the question of what boards supported by coreboot
really have hardware support for quadrank. I would hate to mislead someone
into buying a system loaded with registered memory with the idea of running
coreboot, unless it is known to work.

Thanks,
Scott

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Re: [coreboot] [PATCH]Move QRANK_DIMM_SUPPORT to Kconfig

2010-11-05 Thread Patrick Georgi
Am 05.11.2010 19:58, schrieb Scott Duplichan:
 really have hardware support for quadrank. I would hate to mislead someone
 into buying a system loaded with registered memory with the idea of running
 coreboot, unless it is known to work.
I think (and hope) that I didn't mark any board as quad rank capable
that wasn't marked that way before, but I can't tell if the original
options are set correctly.

In this regard, the tree with this patch is as good as without.


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Re: [coreboot] [PATCH]Move QRANK_DIMM_SUPPORT to Kconfig

2010-11-05 Thread Myles Watson

 Am 05.11.2010 19:58, schrieb Scott Duplichan:
  really have hardware support for quadrank. I would hate to mislead
 someone
  into buying a system loaded with registered memory with the idea of
 running
  coreboot, unless it is known to work.
 I think (and hope) that I didn't mark any board as quad rank capable
 that wasn't marked that way before, but I can't tell if the original
 options are set correctly.
 
 In this regard, the tree with this patch is as good as without.
Agreed.

Acked-by: Myles Watson myle...@gmail.com

Thanks,
Myles


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