Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:

 This doesn't really answer Gary's question.  I would like to build a
 silent PC for music production.  The chromebox is not an option as
 firstly, it has a fan inside and secondly, it has no PCI slots for my
 sound cards.


I did not see those requirements in Gary's note, just in your note; on
rereading his note, they did not appear :-)

For you, no, it won't work. For his case, I guess Gary can tell us.

what kind of pci slots do your sound cards need?

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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Ham
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 08:45 -0700, ron minnich wrote:

 what kind of pci slots do your sound cards need?

Not PCI-E or PCI-X, just normal PCI.

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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:

 Not PCI-E or PCI-X, just normal PCI.

Wow. More than one? How many?

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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Ham
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 12:27 -0700, ron minnich wrote:
 Get a chromebox. It's quite well supported and it's a very fine machine.

This doesn't really answer Gary's question.  I would like to build a
silent PC for music production.  The chromebox is not an option as
firstly, it has a fan inside and secondly, it has no PCI slots for my
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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Ham
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 09:15 -0700, ron minnich wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:
 
  Not PCI-E or PCI-X, just normal PCI.
 
 Wow. More than one? How many?

Two; I have two identical M-Audio Delta 1010s.

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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Ham
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 13:01 -0400, Ward Vandewege wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:29:23PM +0100, Bob Ham wrote:
  On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 09:15 -0700, ron minnich wrote:
   On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:
   
Not PCI-E or PCI-X, just normal PCI.
   
   Wow. More than one? How many?
  
  Two; I have two identical M-Audio Delta 1010s.
 
 Finding a modern board with two 'old' PCI slots may be difficult, regardless
 of coreboot... Have you seen any at all?

There are loads of new boards with at least two PCI slots; I've seen
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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:

 There are loads of new boards with at least two PCI slots; I've seen
 many.

got some pointers? In my world PCI has been an endangered species for years.

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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Ham
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 10:22 -0700, ron minnich wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:
 
  There are loads of new boards with at least two PCI slots; I've seen
  many.
 
 got some pointers? In my world PCI has been an endangered species for years.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-990xa-ud3-amd-990x-s-am3plus-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-raid-sata-pcie-20-%28x16%29-atx
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-m5a97-pro-amd-970-s-am3plus-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-raid-sata-pcie-20-%28x16%29-atx
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-970a-ds3-amd-970-s-am3plus-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-20-%28x16%29-atx
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-760gm-e51-%28fx%29-am3plus-cpu-amd-760g-plus-sb710-16gb-max-1xpcix16-1xpcix1-2-pci-dviplusvgaplushdm
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-m5a78l-amd-760g-s-am3plus-ddr3-sata-ii-3gb-s-raid-sata-pcie-20-%28x16%29-atx
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-e35m1-m-amd-hudson-m1-amd-e-350-dual-core-cpu-pci-e-20-%28x16%29-ddr3-1066-sata-6gb-s-matx


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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread ron minnich
so that answers your question, I guess: match the chipsets on those
boards up, see what kind of flash, etc. and you maybe one will work?

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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:

 Though it sounds like the answer is: you don't know.

I know about some. It is not possible to know about all. In general,
it's not possible to know *even if you have a part number* because
vendors change things on these boards all the time without changing
the board number. I've bought boards in the past that were supported
and a the board arrives and it has enough changes to qualify as a new
board -- and the original part number.

In general, the best bet is to buy a board which has vendor-supported
coreboot -- such as the chromebox.

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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-04 Thread Ward Vandewege
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:29:23PM +0100, Bob Ham wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 09:15 -0700, ron minnich wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:
  
   Not PCI-E or PCI-X, just normal PCI.
  
  Wow. More than one? How many?
 
 Two; I have two identical M-Audio Delta 1010s.

Finding a modern board with two 'old' PCI slots may be difficult, regardless
of coreboot... Have you seen any at all?

Thanks,
Ward.

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[coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-03 Thread gary sheppard
Hello everyone,

Are there any new motherboards that are fully supported? About mid-year
2013 I will be looking to build a new desktop / workstation. I would like
to avoid UEFI like the plague. I am serious. If a donation would help I
would like to propose a What board type discussion. I am guessing Intel?
I am open minded on what board folks. I simply will not buy into UEFI. I
have read quite a bit of the specifications material, and I simply do not
believe that it cures any of the problems it seems to be saying it will. I
can foresee a security / user nightmare coming. Corporate Root kits were
bad enough before UEFI, I can only imagine how bad it will get after we are
all Secured using UEFI.

Thank you for your time and consideration,
Gary Sheppard
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Re: [coreboot] New Motherboards?

2012-06-03 Thread ron minnich
Get a chromebox. It's quite well supported and it's a very fine machine.

ron

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