Re: [coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, Raptor Engineering is pleased to announce the public release of the ASUS KGPE-D16 support code, including support for Family 15h processors! The current feature status matrix and link to the patchsets on Gerrit is available here: https://raptorengineeringinc.com/coreboot/kgpe-d16-status.php Raptor Engineering would also like to thank Minifree Ltd. for sponsoring this release. I know earlier it looked like the crowdfunding push had died away, but we were working hard on a deal to get this code to the general public as quickly as possible. As such I couldn't say too much on the topic until now. To get the funding requirements down to a manageable level, Raptor Engineering has split off several items that would normally have been included with this upstreaming push. Specifically, there is no blanket warranty provided with the patchset as was originally intended -- instead, if an functionality issue is found, you are encouraged to contract directly with Raptor Engineering to create a fix. Also, some of the features not directly related to our production operations here are incomplete; for example, we are currently looking for sponsors to sponsore the work needed to resolve certain RAM initialisation issues and to port the OpenBMC firmware to these boards. Thank you all for your interest in this port; I hope to hear from you again in the future! - -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) http://www.raptorengineeringinc.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJWIVnfAAoJEK+E3vEXDOFbt+oH/jBq8ZBpVWPjMUPXxg7Q4Yl6 QG0TiNK3fOg3uspx3/z7YCKHcRt9Gz33zzDWWiiKNQemXReJqf/ST3HcWLfvSVl4 S4gWoUHoik2lgpI0LdaZNKdsA9mF53E840y1JQnQroE0HWB+FAN95X+FESbezC1z Xrj6Dk8GagXFEAO5kNclzq/4bcbrw1xjjFcgeiToIYSsx+ZaNDURxNmdlz4h663b oOL4Qf8ar5BWmgWF3rh0sKNI50qtCArrqjEDDCXwpGveiNOIukVorxZBFMMA3Eid f1v9cf3i90dqonXcV5hTwjdGsehg/FetTkAO/HIcZnzg/OT+ZROo/u0qT4r+jI4= =CrJV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
Hi tpearson, Checked the board status webpage ( https://raptorengineeringinc.com/coreboot/kgpe-d16-status.php) and didn't find any place where crowdfunding was happening. Where is it? Why isn't it more public? I'm really interested in seeing a recent freed AMD board. I know a lot of people that would chip in/would like to help and didn't quite got why there was no crowdfunding going on/why the code wasn't put upstream. I understand that you currently use this board on your internal cluster (so it is completely functional as a server), but didn't quite got why you didn't ask money for different part of the project following the difficulties still encountered and the time you think it would take for you to fix it (suspend/resume, etc) if you want to keep it closed until funded. If it is because you already worked on it and don't want to lose edge, I would love to read why putting it upstream would make you loose advantage? When are you planning on upstreaming your work if crowdfunding does not happen? Thanks for all your participation on past liberated board :) I'm new to libreboot/coreboot but understand the real need for such project to accelerate to the point where researchers only use such board and secure platforms. Cheers, -- Thierry Laurion -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
Hi all, Timothy Pearson wrote: > Raptor Engineering is pleased to announce the public release of the ASUS > KGPE-D16 support code, including support for Family 15h processors! .. > Raptor Engineering would also like to thank Minifree Ltd. for sponsoring > this release. I would like to take this opportunity to also express my gratitude and appreciation to Minifree Ltd. and Francis Rowe for enabling this most excellent contribution to coreboot possible! Thank you very much. I have been quite critical of the Libreboot project, but I do recognize that this contribution to coreboot would never have been possible if it were not for Francis starting out on the Libreboot adventure. Well done! Keep them coming. :) Francis, now I owe you two beverages. Have a great weekend //Peter -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
On 04/29/2015 04:30 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote: All, I have successfully ported coreboot to the relatively modern ASUS KGPE-D16 server board (dual AMD socket G34, 16 DDR3 DIMMs, https://www.asus.com/us/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/KGPED16/)! This port uses native Family 10h initialization (_not_ AGESA or CIMX). The Libreboot folks will be interested to know that this board can run blob-free and still retain full functionality! Port specifications: CPU: Dual AMD G34 Magny-Cours (Family 10h) RAM: 16 DDR3 DIMM slots with ECC support (tested with x4 4G DDR3-1333 unbuffered DIMMs) Just a quick update on this. Work has continued internally, and as of this message the KGPE-D16 port has two additional options available: full S3 support and native (non-AGESA) support for Family 15h processors. When all of the options are combined the KGPE-D16 is able to use the most modern Opterons available with no apparent issues; as a result, there should be very little development work remaining on this system. The new Family 15h initialisation is integrated into the native Family 10h codebase; the two processors are similar enough overall (though still quite different on a more local scale) that this was feasible. The memory controllers are quite different between the two processor families; much of the additional work was related to updating the processor-independent mct_ddr3 code to handle the modified MCT design and training procedures. During this process the mct_ddr3 codebase has also been cleaned up significantly, and if the entire proposed patchset is merged the cleanup work will continue under Raptor's normal (free) open source development model. Family 15h port specifications: Opteron 6200 processors: tested, fully functional Opteron 6300[P] processors: theoretically supported, not yet tested Dual packages: theoretically supported, not yet tested Unbuffered DDR3 DIMMs: tested, fully functional Registered DDR3 DIMMs: theoretically supported, not yet tested Load-Reduced DDR3 DIMMs: incomplete support [1] Reduced DIMM voltage: tested, fully functional ACPI object generation: tested, fully functional PowerNow!: tested, fully functional S3 suspend/resume: tested, fully functional As mentioned before, this port was done for internal purposes to give Raptor Engineering a competitive advantage in certain markets. However, Raptor Engineering is willing to upstream the code if funded. The offer is currently broken up into three parts, with each part being dependent on the previous part: 1.) Full KGPE-D16 support as described in previous message, Family 10h only w/o S3: $35,000 USD 2.) Family 10h S3 support: $15,000 USD 3.) Native Family 15h support with S3 and MCT modifications: $40,000 USD The port is broken up into these sections specifically so that the community can decide what is important enough to fund. Ideally the entire patch set would be funded, but if the community does not have sufficient interest in the most current Opteron processors I don't want to block the potential upstreaming of the other two sections. Items marked as theoretically supported above should work but have not been tested; if they do not function Raptor Engineering would fix any observed failures as part of the quoted costs. Thank you for your consideration! 1. These are not generally relevant to the KGPE-D16 on a technical basis due to the design of the G34 socket, and even less so given the extremely high cost of LRDIMM modules. However, if LRDIMM support is desired Raptor Engineering would be willing to add support as part of the quoted cost after the rest of the code is upstreamed. -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 http://www.raptorengineeringinc.com -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
2015-05-03 23:12 GMT+02:00 Emilian Bold emilian.b...@gmail.com: I'm curious, is there some Coreboot Foundation that would gather this money and purchase the copyright or would Raptor just somehow crowd-fund this money to license their work as GPLv2 while keeping the copyright? With coreboot there's no organization and no copyright assignment. Patrick -- Google Germany GmbH, ABC-Str. 19, 20354 Hamburg Registergericht und -nummer: Hamburg, HRB 86891, Sitz der Gesellschaft: Hamburg Geschäftsführer: Graham Law, Christine Elizabeth Flores -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
I'm curious, is there some Coreboot Foundation that would gather this money and purchase the copyright or would Raptor just somehow crowd-fund this money to license their work as GPLv2 while keeping the copyright? --emi On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Ward Vandewege w...@gnu.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:46:29PM +0100, The Gluglug wrote: You should crowd-fund the $35,000 figure, there are lots of people who will be interested in this. I personally will chip in, and I'd ask others to as well. I would chip in too. Thanks, Ward. -- Ward Vandewege GPG Key: 25F774AB Do you use free software? Donate to join the FSF and support freedom at http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=859 -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
[coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
All, I have successfully ported coreboot to the relatively modern ASUS KGPE-D16 server board (dual AMD socket G34, 16 DDR3 DIMMs, https://www.asus.com/us/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/KGPED16/)! This port uses native Family 10h initialization (_not_ AGESA or CIMX). The Libreboot folks will be interested to know that this board can run blob-free and still retain full functionality! Port specifications: CPU: Dual AMD G34 Magny-Cours (Family 10h) RAM: 16 DDR3 DIMM slots with ECC support (tested with x4 4G DDR3-1333 unbuffered DIMMs) Peripherals: PCIe slots: all functional PCI slot: functional RS-232: functional PS/2: expected to function, not tested (on SuperIO) ASpeed VGA device: functional (text mode, see below) IEEE1394: functional On-board USB: functional On-board NICs: functional ASUS PIKE SAS controller: functional PCIe ROMs: functional Power management: DDR3 voltage set: functional ACPI/APIC: functional Suspend/resume: broken Other: cbmem console: partial support (log truncated) cbmem timestamps: functional nvram: functional BIOS recovery jumper: functional ASpeed VGA: The ASpeed VGA device initialises in text mode via its (new) coreboot driver, however this initialisation is incomplete, leading to distorted but quite usable VGA output. When Linux boots and engages the graphical framebuffer all distortion disappears. This port was not trivial. Almost every device used was broken and required debugging/repair, with the notable exception of the SuperIO chip. The AMD DDR3 controller was severely broken to the point where large rewrites were needed in order to bring it in line with the BKDG. Even after the various component drivers were repaired Due to the labor-intensive nature of the port and the extensive changes throughout the entire source tree, it is not economically feasible to merge this port upstream at this time (I estimate upward of 30 independent patches would be required just to get the board booting!). Raptor Engineering will, however, be continuing to maintain this port internally, and I am currently looking into adding native Family 15h support on top of this internal tree. Additionally, while it was not a priority for the initial port, I will be attempting to enable suspend/resume functionality as I have time. If there is sufficient interest from the community in adding this board to coreboot I would consider merging the changes in exchange for a one-time contract payment in the vicinity of $35,000 USD. When considering this offer please bear in mind that this is a fully functional blobless board with a wide range of peripherals and expansion options available, and that once these large changes are merged I will continue to enhance coreboot functionality as before (e.g. with the KFSN4-DRE and the T400). I would also be willing to add this board to the test stand as the only fully supported 4-way Opteron board (socket G34 Magny-Cours CPUs contain two separate CPUs in one package, making this 2-socket board a 4-way system from a HyperTransport perspective). Please let me know if you have any questions! -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 http://www.raptorengineeringinc.com -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You should crowd-fund the $35,000 figure, there are lots of people who will be interested in this. I personally will chip in, and I'd ask others to as well. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVQVE1AAoJEP9Ft0z50c+UGrAIALFkmjysSsczVYKS1JDoOKuo PEu5dpWjUijjK1Bd/mCNfpzV/30KXO+V+gqhV4uIse0zj0zMDfGq5uaahyRIZimT p1c7o3+SXdBa5cvb2UjmLItbGJNM3uvs+v0IrDYwenR9EeMDaV2oOeDCTzojq2Vf drDq5Lt/WUwxC0XYUo25ZrGcaXJ5q1ni5e6SINw9TirW+XMoE6ye65/yZ923SFnK D/eKQgYd9+oOCM7CJUCk4VXAaMHcgd6Wi08e5fsCeCnhQos5x7pvTYcpp4wqMLu/ i23SnAnM9JUAc3pYJ/DsAWoB46QeNsWk01fqp6lx8gvs+MBnm1WpCKKmEROsxB4= =RIe1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/04/15 22:46, The Gluglug wrote: You should crowd-fund the $35,000 figure, there are lots of people who will be interested in this. I personally will chip in, and I'd ask others to as well. What about simply pushing the code as-is (make your non-upstream tree publicly available for people to git-clone), and let the community upstream it in their own time? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVQVOhAAoJEP9Ft0z50c+UbNYH/0+haygy3GNs2qF9wEcV3ws7 RZZPLBT5XZ7++QUS0vwaOGBbFCdTcWue9QdRJ3G+007+r4syNV0CMOn1XHFBgKq7 OhngpNvwN37p6y87vrOdMlsLDOHbj17AZyPiUJbncyCDD2Fb12QNsSHgmSIrk6QI h1ZqhS8l60Nyxf10ym/TDqjd4WvH7PIx74couSqFJxKiYBu4p4akM3BxTEzJAAzU LaZDR1wLwxeEi4iiN9IWjG37rfsxtM1W0Lu+HnvsHzCa09YjX50G7TkWJjRRaWGo QHKg/CMEPA3kwbVTcCHSLMeuUOe2Sp1p0VEktpTnYr3U4C0eQ1p7ZrOTM0lkdlE= =p0kv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
On 04/29/2015 04:56 PM, The Gluglug wrote: What about simply pushing the code as-is (make your non-upstream tree publicly available for people to git-clone), and let the community upstream it in their own time? There is no real incentive for Raptor to do this. There is no guarantee of code actually being up-streamed and maintained by the community, but after this release our competitors may use the code at will. To be clear, we use coreboot internally on a large server cluster. This port is the result of an internal effort to upgrade said cluster, and while it is in our financial interest to upstream ports of older boards (e.g. the ASUS KFSN4-DRE) that did not require changes to the underlying support code, it is _not_ in our financial interest to simply release the code to modern boards that required major changes to underlying support code. -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 http://www.raptorengineeringinc.com -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] coreboot ported to the ASUS KGPE-D16 (Libreboot: blobless, fully functional!)
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:46:29PM +0100, The Gluglug wrote: You should crowd-fund the $35,000 figure, there are lots of people who will be interested in this. I personally will chip in, and I'd ask others to as well. I would chip in too. Thanks, Ward. -- Ward Vandewege GPG Key: 25F774AB Do you use free software? Donate to join the FSF and support freedom at http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=859 -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
