Hi all,

My problem was that (as a test whether i can modify the object) i tried to change the first line/attribute: "role".

this is a "lookup key" per [1] and can not be changed.
Changing other attributes works.

Thanks Keessun for your help!

We agreed that documentation might need improvements.


Have a good time  - and let's have the cables fixed soon....

Frank
(no hat)


[1]
$ whois -h whois.afrinic.net -- -t role
[Querying whois.afrinic.net]
[whois.afrinic.net]
% This is the AfriNIC Whois server.
% The AFRINIC whois database is subject to the following terms of Use. See https://afrinic.net/whois/terms

role:           [mandatory]  [single]     [lookup key]
address:        [mandatory]  [multiple]   [ ]
phone:          [optional]   [multiple]   [ ]
fax-no:         [optional]   [multiple]   [ ]
e-mail:         [mandatory]  [multiple]   [lookup key]
org:            [optional]   [multiple]   [inverse key]
admin-c:        [mandatory]  [multiple]   [inverse key]
tech-c:         [mandatory]  [multiple]   [inverse key]
nic-hdl:        [mandatory]  [single]     [primary/lookup key]
remarks:        [optional]   [multiple]   [ ]
notify:         [optional]   [multiple]   [inverse key]
abuse-mailbox:  [optional]   [multiple]   [inverse key]
mnt-by:         [optional]   [multiple]   [inverse key]
changed:        [mandatory]  [multiple]   [ ]
source:         [mandatory]  [single]     [ ]




On 16/05/2024 07:20, Sylvain Baya wrote:
Dear DBWG,
Hope this email finds you in good health!

Please see my comments below, inline.
Thanks.

Le ven. 10 mai 2024 à 12:52 PM, Frank Habicht <ge...@geier.ne.tz <mailto:ge...@geier.ne.tz>> a écrit :

    Hi all,


Hi Frank,
Thanks for keeping the WG as active as you can, brother :'-(


    I hope/trust that's not a question for "Support"...


...sure!
But, someone should explain how Policy
Manual have been used in building the
business rules behind implementation :-)


    I tried to update/modify a role object, and got this (sorry for the
    line
    breaks):


What's the difference with other objects?

PII (Person Identifiable Information) risk?


    ***Error:   Person/Role name cannot be changed automatically. Please
    create


...time to *automate* the process?


                  another Person/Role object and modify any references
    to the old
                  object, then delete the old object



:-/ so the object's history would be lost?



I can't see a reason why

...i don't also agree that:
'delete' right
is easily grantable than
'update' right

:-/ ...i would have understood a kind of
intent implementation of a "protect *new created* objects in order to avoid an  accidental deletion" policy...

Such as:

"A WhoisDB object can only be deleted
after a *reasonable* amount of time; at least :
  $new_delete_prevent_time seconds"

->Protected object! please try again after
  $new_delete_prevent_time seconds;
in case you *really* need to delete it ;-)


    updates to role projects should not be allowed.
    I even think that's the main purpose....

    So, am I missing something?


    Thanks,
    Frank
    <no hats>


    PS: AfriNIC staff:
    I got "Internal software error" when i wanted to delete
    SNHT55555-AFRINIC
    less than 1 minute after creating it


...interesting behaviour :-\

< $new_delete_prevent_time?


    wanted to delete it with the line
    delete:         remove
    added

    according to
    delete: <comment>
    under section "2.2.4 Deleting an object"
    in
    https://afrinic.net/press/197-database-afrinic-database-reference-manual- 
<https://afrinic.net/press/197-database-afrinic-database-reference-manual->

    deleting without the comment worked.


Noted!
...by the way, have you first reproduced
your initial testing steps/constraints[*]?
:-)
__
[*]: (i) create an object; (ii) delete within a minute; (iii) ...


    Can that section in that manual be reviewed?


For the *remastering* activity concerning
  the Whois Manual & documentation, it
should be done openly & collaboratively;
imho!

...it would be interesting to contribute on
it under a public/locally [.] accessible git
repository or a self hosted [.] wiki engine.
__
[.]: idea <free•tools•africa> or dot afrinic?



    If google sent me to an outdated document, can we remove it?


...or simply versioned and archived?

Please see here [1] for appropriate facts.
__
[1]: AFRINIC's Factsheets
<https://afrinic.net/our-factsheets/ <https://afrinic.net/our-factsheets/>>




    Thanks,
    Frank



Shalom,
--sb.

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