Re: [Debconf-team] SVN - GIT migration

2012-07-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Gaudenz,

On Sonntag, 22. Juli 2012, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
 I finally found the time too take another look at the repository
 conversion and incorporate all the feedback and discussion from this
 thread and DebConf.

thanks a lot for your work on this!
 
 During the discussion it became clear to me that my initial plan tries
 to solve two distinct problems that should be kept separate. One is the
 technical question of the right (tm) version control system to use, the
 other is the access rights to the debconf-team (private) repository.

right.
 
 * Technical part
 - I think there is agreement, that git is prefered over subversion and
   that the conversion to git should be done.

/me agrees

 - Each year the previous years admin is removed again and the members
   list of the debconf-team project is reviewed. All members that no
   longer need access are removed.

we (sadly) haven't done this in the past, I hope we will get around to do it 
this year!

 - Really confidential data should not be put in any of the two
   repositories.

right. Can you please document this (as well as all the other points you 
raised/described in this mail) in the DebConf wiki, in a Category:Manual 
page?!
 
 * Next steps

please go on!


cheers  thanks again,
Holger
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Re: [Debconf-team] SVN - GIT migration

2012-07-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Richard,

On Sonntag, 22. Juli 2012, Richard Darst wrote:
 First and foremost is the institutional memory.

Don't forget $penta, the lists and the wiki! :)

 If you want to work
 on DebConf N, you're going to want to know about DebConf N-1 and N-2
 and N-3 and so on.

I still don't think and so on is the case. DebConf N-1 til N-3 yes, but then 
it gets boring. _Maybe_ older sponsors-table, but those could be easily copied 
over...

 git is good for code.  It has tons of nice features like branching and
 local copies.  But I have always thought that subversion is fairly
 ideal for our use case.

svn is dead slow for once, and not being able to work remotely is another 
major drawback. also, git is good for far more things than just code :)

 I agree and empathize with the fact it is hard to get people access.
 I would suggest cc'ing debconf-team on requests to add people as
 commiters.  

me too

 It is also one of the reasons I try so hard to minimize
 the amount of private date put into debconf-team, and maximize the
 public part in debconf-data.  

I very much appreciate this! Thanks!


cheers,
Holger
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[Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, please review sections Debian and DebConf

2012-07-23 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin

Hi

In preparation of the DC13 sponsoring brochure I reviewed and amended
the sections about Debian and DebConf. We used the DC11 brochure as a
starting point and I also looked at the DC10 brochure for some ideas.
The latex source of the paragraphs in question is included below for
inline commenting. The whole source is in the debconf-data repository at
dc13/sponsorship-brochure/brochure.en.tex. The tex file does not yet
have it's final formatting. Ignore all formatting issues.

I have split the Debian section into 3 more distinct subsections:

1. Free Operating System
2. Debian is Choice (started from DC10 brochure)
3. A Large Scale, Non-profit, Distributed Project

My intention is to explain a bit more in depth the spirit and goals of
the Debian project also to potential sponsors that might not know Debian
very well and to hilight the key properties of the Debian project. The
text is a bit longer as in the DC12 brochure, but not yet as long as in
the DC10 edition.

For the DebConf section I mainly added a short description of the DC13
venue and setting.

Please review my changes both with regard to content as for english
language improvements.

Gaudenz

\section{Debian}

\subsection{Free Operating System}

Debian is a free and open operating system. Debian consists completely
of Free and Open Source Software. It's strict guidelines serve as an
example for many other projects. Debian project is dedicated to remain
100\% free and to be a responsible ``citizen'' of the Free and Open
Source Software ecosystem. It's key priorities are Free Software and
it's users.

\subsection{Debian is Choice}
Debian is known for its adherence to the Unix and Free Software
philosophies, and for its coverage -- the current release includes
over 20,000 software packages for more than 10 computer architectures,
ranging from the more common Intel 32-bit and 64-bit architectures to
ARM (cellphones and tablets) and the IBM s390 (mainframes). Besides
the well-known Linux kernel it also supports the FreeBSD kernel.
Debian is the basis for several other distributions, including Knoppix
and Ubuntu.

\subsection{A Large Scale, Non-profit, Distributed Project}
The Debian Project's key strengths are its volunteer base, its
dedication to the Debian Social Contract, and its commitment to
provide the best operating system possible. Debian is produced by over
a thousand active developers spread around the world. Many of whom
volunteer in their spare time. Apart from DebConf most communication
takes place on the Internet in mailing-lists and IRC chat-rooms.
Unlike all other Linux Distributions of similar size Debian is an
independent non-profit organization not backed by a commercial
company.

% from http://www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc
\begin{figure}[htb]
  \centering
  \includegraphics[width=12cm]{img/developers_map}
  \label{fig:Map_Debian_Project_members}
\end{figure}

Debian's dedication to Free Software, its non-profit nature, and its
open development model make it unique among Free Software
distributions.

\section{DebConf}

\subsection{Debian Annual Conference}

DebConf is the annual conference for Debian contributors and
interested users. Previous Debian Conferences have featured speakers
and attendees from around the world (DebConf11 had about 300 attendees
from more than 50 different countries). Thanks to our sponsors,
\textbf{participation, accommodation and meals are free of charge} to
Debian developers and contributors.

DebConf 13 will take place in August 2013 at the shore of Lake
Neuchâtel in Vaumarcus, Switzerland. The conference venue ``Le Camp''
offers an ideal and yet affordable environment for informal workgroup
meetings, more formal discussion sessions and technical presentations.
Almost all participants will be hosted on site. % better english needed

\textbf{Sponsoring the Debian
  Conference} will help cover the costs of the Conference, as well as
enable three distinct sub-events:\\

\begin{tabular}{p{0.3\textwidth} p{0.3\textwidth} p{0.3\textwidth}}

\large{\textbf{DebConf}}  \large{\textbf{DebCamp}}  \large{\textbf{Debian 
Day}} \\

\vspace{0.5ex} Hands-on coding, workshops and talks -- all highly technical in 
nature.

\vspace{0.5ex} Pre-meeting for development teams focusing on undisturbed
collaborative work.

\vspace{0.5ex} An open day for users and decision makers to discover the 
benefits of
Free Software. \\

\end{tabular}

\subsection{Video}

We have a dedicated team of volunteers recording all talks at DebConf.
The sessions are streamed live via the Internet for remote
participants. All videos are also archived for further benefit of the
community. \textbf{We thank our Platinum and Gold sponsors by
  inserting their own logos in all video transmissions}.


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Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, please review sections Debian and DebConf

2012-07-23 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:20:02PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
 
 Please review my changes both with regard to content as for english
 language improvements.

I commited some attempts at that.

 Gaudenz
 \subsection{Debian is Choice}
 Debian is known for its adherence to the Unix and Free Software
 philosophies, and for its coverage -- the current release includes
 over 20,000 software packages for more than 10 computer architectures,

http://www.debian.org/ says over 29,000 at the moment. Roughly how many
will be in wheezy?


It wasn't in the sections included here (so maybe this is off topic),
but the full file mentions Switzerland as being an onerous destination.
To my mind's ear onerous connotes worse than I suspect you might
intend. (?)

Also not included here is a quote about DC6 from roblimo. I wonder if
something more recent would be better, if it exists.

-edrz
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Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, please review sections Debian and DebConf

2012-07-23 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 24/07/12 02:01, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:20:02PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:

 Please review my changes both with regard to content as for english
 language improvements.
 
 I commited some attempts at that.
 
 Gaudenz
 \subsection{Debian is Choice}
 Debian is known for its adherence to the Unix and Free Software
 philosophies, and for its coverage -- the current release includes
 over 20,000 software packages for more than 10 computer architectures,
 
 http://www.debian.org/ says over 29,000 at the moment. Roughly how many
 will be in wheezy?
 
 
 It wasn't in the sections included here (so maybe this is off topic),
 but the full file mentions Switzerland as being an onerous destination.
 To my mind's ear onerous connotes worse than I suspect you might
 intend. (?)


onerous is definitely not the word to use

What is the URL for the repo so I can look over the whole file?

 
 Also not included here is a quote about DC6 from roblimo. I wonder if
 something more recent would be better, if it exists.
 
 -edrz
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